It's about time you stopped flirting with that girl

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Due to unforeseen personal reasons, the David Seminar has had to be postponed. A new date will be announced shortly, and all those who sent in deposits will be refunded. Stay tuned, though, there are some very interesting developments coming from David shortly.

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Cliff's Comment: Here are some dating sites that I got off the site Askmen.com. Askmen.com is a pretty interesting site (Dr. Dennis Neder, who gets these emails and who has commented here in the past, does a regular article for them) and it originates here in Montreal. It is below #400 in the most visited sites on the internet (they've had something like 53 million page turns) and the average visitor spends about 123 minutes on their site which is far above the competition, from what I understand.

The comments that follow the addresses are from the Askmen site, and are not from me. They even rank the sites (note the "10/10" after Doc Love's System):

Doc Love's System http://www.doclove.com/ The single man's best investment. 10/10
Quickie Encounters http://www.quickieencounters.com. A new and exciting way to meet single people like yourself. 8.5/10 Lovingyou.com http://www.lovingyou.com/ Love, romance and relationship resources 8.5/10
Sexpressions http://www.sexpressions.ca A new approach to sexuality education. 8.5/10
Online Love http://www.online-loves.com/ Free online love connections! 8.0/10 Anything Romantic http://www.anythingromantic.com/ Your online guide to romance and all the affairs of the heart. 8.0/10 Dating911.com http://www.dating911.com/ Revive your love life! 8.0/10

Dating Related Sites:

Men Are Like Fish http://www.menarelikefish.com/ What every woman needs to know about catching a man. 7.5/10
Lover's
Lane http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Grove/6161/loverslane.html Just walk into the many different lanes and enjoy yourself. 7.0/10

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Stephane:
I've been spending some time with David recently. Last night, I asked him how many women
he had slept with. This is what he said:

"I stopped counting at 500. I had 'stables' (between 3 and 7 girlfriends simultaneously) from
1984 until 1989. People ask,"Did you TELL your girlfriends about each other?" And that's a
good question. Now, early on in my life I discovered that women never believe what you tell
them anyway, so you might as well tell them the truth! See, woman are masters of self-deception.
If they ask,"What did you do last night?" and you respond,"I went out with another girl", she'll
just say,"Yeah, what did you REALLY do last night?" The truth shall set you free!"

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Zed:
(Commenting on: "Pastor D. Zaster (http://www.dwacon.com/): Well, had a great week of
replied in a nasal tone reminiscent of the millionaire's wife on Gilligan's Island, "You're a stranger, why should I speak to you?" Crash, explode...):

"Because strangers have the best candy."

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Poetdude:
(Commenting on: "You're a stranger, why should I speak to you?"):

My answer to that question, my friend, has been simple: "because your best friend in the whole wide world and every lover you've ever had all started out as strangers." And if she's not married, chances are the person she will marry is a stranger to her right now. Deeeeeeeep, man.

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Adam K.:
(Commenting on: "Pastor D. Zaster (<http://www.dwacon.com/>): an HB15+++.
I approached and started with a fluff opener. She replied in a nasal tone reminiscent of the
millionaire's wife on Gilligan's Island, "You're a stranger, why should I speak to you?" Crash, explode, burn... I replied, "Haven't you ever done something that seemed completely
opposite before?" She just replied, "You're a stranger, I don't know you" as she turned her back and walked away. Anyway... looking forward to my next trip to Boston..."):

Uh... how about replying with, "My name is Zaster," and then pointing out that since she now knows your name, you're no longer a stranger. And then IMMEDIATELY CHANGE the subject and jump to, "Are you from D.C.?" If yes, then engage in where her favorite restaurants are. If no, engage in what she's doing in D.C. and go from there.

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Kerry F.:
(Commenting on: "Matthew A.: (Commenting on: "THE UNKNOWN! (Not reviewed) HYPNO-TECH Here's another one which I think has been reviewed here in the past but I
haven't gone through the old emails to check. "Do you Want To Know A Simple, Two Minute Hypnotic Technique That Lets YOU Secretly Put Any Woman Into An Instant Trance And Persuades Her To Ask YOU Out?
http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/hypnotech"):

I got the course ages ago with my buddy and I came to the conclusion that it was just
another spin-off of RJ's stuff. The main difference with Dr. Mojo's stuff is that he described a number of number of Magick and Psychic Seduction techniques. Now I tried out his techniques for about a week and a half every day for approximately 15 minutes then I gave up after having no signs of affect whatsoever. (Matthew, did you find those techniques powerful?) Also his course never makes much mention of his "Simple, Two Minute Hypnotic Technique
That Lets YOU Secretly Put Any Woman Into An Instant Trance And Persuades Her To Ask YOU Out?"

One thing worth commenting on about the course was his example of the power of embedded
commands... "I find it very HAND and UPLIFTING, when you can start from SCRATCH, because your mind NOSE what I'm saying.." I have tried this and it works every time.. usually just a little rub or scratch of the
nose... HEHE

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Ross:
(Commenting on: She replied in a nasal tone reminiscent of the millionaire's wife on Gilligan's Island, "You're a stranger, why should I speak to you?" Crash, explode, burn... I replied, "Haven't you ever done something that seemed completely opposite before?" She just replied, "You're a stranger, I don't know you" as she turned her back and walked away."):

My response would have been, "With that kind of incredibly rude and childish attitude, why would I want you to? Good bye!"

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NightLight9:
I just finished reading PIMP, Iceburg Slim's life story (really only until he was in his early 30's). It was very interesting. Pimping is the ultimate form of PU. It isn't the type of PU I'm into, but it's very interesting.
This book is the best reference I've seen. It's also a good read although at times it can be a downer. I recommend it.

(Commenting on Mark B.: "Therefore the attitude of assuming the worst outcome is not something that can work for everyone but it can work for those of us who worry and feel nervous and anxious about meeting women or dealing with them especially for the first time."):

There is a difference between pondering the worst, preparing for the worst, and assuming the worst. I find it hard to believe that actually assuming the worst can work out as well as having a next move prepared - it kind of implies that you are assuming some success. I think I tend to be close in mind set and
style to you, although I think you are probably more attractive and in some ways more forward than myself (based on you posts). I'm having trouble to believe that you really assume failure. Maybe this is just semantics, but...

(Commenting on: "Mark B.: ...but I could never understand or figure out how to get myself to that non-caring but still caring state. Now I know - assume the
worst but hope for the best. It's like becoming aware of what works for you and then living it."):

I find that rehearsing the worst can be a useful technique for eliminating the fear of failure. "I mean, what's the worst that can happen?" The problem for so many people is that the idea of rejection is so painful in and of
itself and to many too painful to accept. Myself, I used to worry about the results of
the rejection, i.e. who will see me and what will they think, who will she tell? In some situations this is actually important at some level. At my yoga class, I'm relatively conservative because it's quite obvious when you are talking to anyone and if you make one uncomfortable it will be obvious as well. This doesn't mean I don't talk to women or that I don't ask them out.
In a bar scene it's loud enough and people are so involved that you don't have to worry about it. A coffee shop is somewhere in the middle (assuming multiple hotties). Regardless, do what ever makes you comfortable enough with 'pain' of rejection to be able to ignore it and just think about the real strategy.

(Commenting on: "Kerry F.: Here is something I tried for jokes, and I have found it to be a
very humorousway to cause a HB to think of sex. The only prerequisite is that you have her in a fun, playful state or she is the type of person who can take a joke. At http://www.absolutehumor.com/dirtyquiz2.htm there are some dirty jokes that can have embedded commands added. [snip] Any way you get the idea, and these little jokes force a person to think of sex, and allow for the use of embeds. It's very childish, but tons of fun."):

Sample Softener: "Do you like kids? I do, too... They are so innocent...
Except when they're not. You wouldn't believe the riddles my little cousin was telling me today...

(Commenting on: "Mark B.: (Comments on NightLight9: [snip]) On the other hand, when I either did not complement her or held back what I wanted to say or do it rarely worked for me."):

I can buy that. If you are trying to do something that doesn't come natural, it will look like that until you practice enough to make it look natural.
The obvious side affect is that it becomes natural when it looks natural (fake it till you make it). If what you do naturally works for you already, why change it? The problem is that if complimenting doesn't work for an AFC, it's been my experience and many others that the way to work through this is not to keep complimenting until you get it, but to learn to do other things until you transend to the level of confidence and competence where compliments begin to become beneficial (OT: that is some of the best alliterations I have ever written). I think we are pretty much agreeing.

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Hanchen Vie Noch Nie (http://www.dwacon.com): Vom Feuer Schmeckt es Besser
A buddy had to go out of town so he gave me his invite to a party at a new club. The music was deafening and the women were beautiful so a-Sarging I went. I figured it would make up for the dee-zaster of the previous night.
I was like a kid in a candy store... so many choices each more appealing than the next. I didn't want to be seen going from woman to woman and it was so crowded and everyone was watching everyone. I took an hour to be picky and scan the crowd thoroughly... finally I picked this HB8 who looked like an African-American version of Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island. Maybe an HB9. She was receptive to my opener. I ran a bunch of arousal patterns... ending with the one about taking a bath and she got visibly turned on. She accepted and returned a ton of kino (it helped we had to get close to hear each other). I asked her favorite food, which was Italian. I asked, "How wonderful would it feel to picture you and I enjoying the best Italian you've ever eaten" (which would have been even better if I were Italian... harrr). She said, "It would probably feel very good... but, I'm seeing someone." I then segued into borefriend destroyer and she said she didn't think she should have these feelings with a stranger. Whoops... time to backtrack to a connection pattern but too late, she was freezing me out.
I just bailed and returned to reconnaissance mode.
I went upstairs to the dance floor but the speakers were so loud my head was pounding and I was having an Excedrin moment. I stepped outside to escape the noise and saw one of the sponsors of the party (a local athlete). Walking over to him, this HB10 saw me, assumed I was going to talk to her, and started radiating the negs, she even ran a few steps away.
I zipped past her and started talking with the guy, noting her expression... kind of disappointed. She started inching closer to us and, when the guy noticed, he said, "Hey, this beautiful young lady knows more about the club than I do" and he stepped away. I started with some fluff but it was going over like a lead pipe. I segued to humor and she just said with a sneer, "I don't care to say anything to you." Well... I had a Ross J sleazoid comeback ready to fly, but it was like 2 a.m. and I was getting tired, so I just joked "very nice liquid nitrogen. May I have another?" This actually got a smile but she forced it off her face, trying to keep her bee-yotch exterior. I bid her adieu, "excuse me as I go and thaw myself out" and returned to the bar for one final pass.
At this point a lot of people were leaving together and a lot of guys were getting phone numbers, so I figured I'd go for broke. There was a young HB7 around 19 or 20 who was hanging by the door. She was eyeballing me and started primping, putting up her hair and cutting the eye, so I went over and said, "looks beautiful... but I like it better down." A bit of fluff talk but mid-way my batteries were like running down near zero and I just didn't care anymore, so I gulped down the last of my drink and departed.
General observations:
I noticed that the more beautiful the woman, the less receptive she was to an approach. These typically ignored all approaches and hand-picked a guy.
And, in most cases, they picked the guys who looked like they stepped out of a low-rider. Us noids in the Armani and Cerruti suits got ignored. So I had to laugh... the night I should have been dressed to the nines I wore leather. The night I would have done better in leather I was in suit and tie.
I also noticed that the women who bared the most flesh were more self-conscious about it. A couple dozen came in with their boobs pushed up and out of their tops, yet they did the typical "offended" behavior if you looked and did the drawing of attention (by touching or adjusting) if you didn't look. Go figure.
I also noticed dresses and pants with slits up to the promised land and necklines down to the navel. I remember a Discovery Channel show that said that when women are ovulating their sex drives go up and they wear more revealing attire. I did attempt a talk with a nearly naked chick coming in the entrance, but she was also in reconnaissance mode... she gave me a quick smile with a flash of raised eyebrows, but wouldn't stop to talk to me or the other five guys trying to get her attention (at least, until she and her entourage circled the bar a couple times).
Happy ending:
I got home and saw an e-mail from a woman I had written to earlier this morning. She initially insisted that she would never give her phone number to an on-line stranger but the embedded NLP must have worked... the e-mail included her home phone number. So the weekend wasn't a total ferschmoyel.

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Caco:
(Commenting on: "Stephane: You said that during the wedding you had her in a strong DDB...you should have closed her right then and there."):

I totally agree with your observation though it does not apply to my case per se. First, here the problem was that I had almost ALL my relatives there (Grandma, Mom, Uncles and Aunts and even nieces). Having danced for around 4 hours before that, it was definitely tough to get the right words out in that environment.

About SS:Well, I try to follow Mystery's advice as CLOSELY as possible. So I wasn't really into patterning, but rather more into personality, being the center of the party, etc. And the problem which I forgot to mention last time was that I could NOT close due to lack of time or not knowing what to say, but because I wanted to convey enough personality to her ignoring the bf just focusing on what her DEEPEST desires were and linking them to me besides delinking them from the bf ; ).
Right in the middle of this, my mother calls me and tells me :"It's about time you stopped flirting with that girl." I argued with my mom for some time (that I was just passing time <evil grin> ; ) only to see some other girls come and sit with her. I didn't have the energy to enter the whole group, so I didn't do anything further that day .
This reply also reminds me of two interesting things: A) The importance of Planning. I knew before hand the kind of situation I would be in, and that I would get my chances with the HB's. But my overenthusiasm for dancing fucked me up so that later I didn't have enough energy left for the crucial part. Moreover, I portrayed myself there as the grinding dude not someone unique. I should have had a better game plan.
B) Another thought specifically on: ("Sometimes I think you can learn too much too soon, and it is overwhelming. So you start second guessing yourself and analyzing too much. Keep it simple!"):

That was precisely the case with me and out there I was saturated with so much info that I kinda overloaded my brain with over analysis (Paralysis of Analysis? ; ). But on the first nite itself something snapped within and I had it sorted out. I just forgot all about the whole system of what to say when. (To use MrSEX4UNYC's words) Instead, I thought like I'm the MAN.
I tried to get to know what is it that she wants and then give it back to her both verbally and non verbally. The way I see it, when you are the MAN, then it's just a matter of time. Before they get down on you, that is.
Maybe I just wasn't MAN enough ; )

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MrT.:
I have been going through SS and other stuff for a while. However I am having problems visualising. I just can't seem to do it. I close my eyes and think of an object or place, at best I get a blurry distorted picture, or a picture as if you were looking at something in the dark, shining a spotlight torch onto any part of it at one time but not being able to see the whole picture. I feel that this is really holding back my learning on this and other things (for example, I'm also doing Kevin Trudeau's Mega Memory - full of him saving "vividly, in colour as if you can touch it, see this, see that", and it's really annoying when you can't!!) So any advice on learning to/improving my visualising would be really appreciated.

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Gregory Rasputin: I want to tell you at this point is to PLEASE STOP POSTING THOSE NICE GUYS VS. JERKS posts. Let me sum it up for one last time: Nice guys bore girls, jerks hurt girls, but attract certain ones, so find a happy equilibrium between the two and shut up. : )

Cliff's Comments: Hopefully we are looking beyond that simplification here. I think what we are trying to get to is a deeper understanding of what works and to avoid what doesn't work and clearly there is something that works there that needs to be explored. And because elements of "jerk behaviour" do work, it's going to play a role.

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Prophet:
Girls sit and listen and watch me wide-eyed when I recite patterns. Thank you, Ross Jeffries for being a geek just like me!
It worked! I have a hot babe of my own now. I found out about Speed Seduction about ten months ago, did the work memorising about 6 patterns and using the 3-second rule. With practice I got calmer talking to HB's.
Finally, this summer, while on vacation at home in Canada, I was walking into an ice-cream parlor on the beach with my two little nieces and nephew.
A hot babe was sitting there onthe picnic bench with her girlfriends. When my small relatives and I left the parlor, the HB smiled at me. I said, "Hi", got a good response and said, "Has anyone ever told you: you are a shining example of genetic and physiological perfection?" Of course she laughed and I responded with, "I´m glad you laughed because although you are truly stunning, I wanted to see the personality behind the beauty before I introduce myself. My name is Prophet." Then I did the eyes pattern which was easy because she has beautiful brown eyes. (She later confessed she would have let me fuck her then if I wanted to!) I no longer question the power of the right words. Over the next day and night I recited the natural woman pattern, find your desire, incredible connection, supernatural, and blammo.
Since then we have become best friends. The connection we have is great, how like we phone each other at the same time, or arrive at a meeting place at the same time, or she says something I was just thinking. She has moved to Germany were I work. She is making my apartment beautiful. I get to show her off to my friends when we go out. I feel like a giant! Other hot women come over to me when she is with me and smile at me like never before. Fun wow!
I made some mistakes, though. I told her I got the patterns from the internet to pick up hot women. She wants to learn them now. I have also told her that I want to continue talking to other women. Unfortunately, she is very jealous and doesn't like me telling my patterns to other women. I can't say that I blame her. So, how do I keep practising my patterns with her around?

Cliff's Comment: The problem here is that the patterns are being distinguished from your regular manner of speaking. What you should be aiming for is that they become a part of you, and they just naturally come out when you speak. This will keep her fascinated with you and allow you to continually attract new women (which she will grudgingly accept and understand because all you are doing is speaking the way you always speak, and you can't be blamed for that) because it's the way you are.

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Maximillian Hell:
(Commenting on: "If she has a picture of him, make her pull it out and hold it in her hand...it helps when killing him in her head...if she does not, no biggie <talk some more>"):

This is the part I am curious about MTL_PUA: What do you say about the BF when you see his pic? It seems you have to make some sort of convo about it, or she will put it back in her purse, and thus will not have it in hand when you run the destroyer. Then how much time did you wait before you begin the destroyer?

MTL_PUA Responds: I do not wait before running the pattern. I just launch into it by using the
intro: "You know, you holding that picture out reminds me of my friend Tracy, blablabla"
Most of the approached women were very receptive and did not pull the picture away. When they did, I just shrugged and use their hand instead. Remember that when you tell the story, what you want to do is have her imagine her hand (if you do not have a picture) as the BF. The key to success with this one is when you push her hand away. That hand of hers should have negative feelings anchored to it.

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THE UNKNOWN! (Not reviewed)
HYPNO-TECH Here's another one which I think has been reviewed here in the past but I haven't gone through the old emails to check. "Do You Want To Know A Simple, Two Minute Hypnotic Technique That Lets YOU Secretly Put Any Woman Into An Instant Trance And Persuades Her To Ask YOU Out?
http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/hypnotech ADVANCED MACKING Advanced Macking has one of the most enticing websites. An updated review would also be welcome.
http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/showsite.verotel?vercode=66629804000000274976 This one also looked pretty interesting. The link for more information on breakups and loving-styles is http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/Tigress Success Secrets Our free newsletter reveals it all Money and Personal Finance secrets; Business & Marketing secrets; Health, Fitness, and Weight-Loss advice; Self Defense secrets; Memory Improvement tips; Smart Advice on Flirting, Dating, Sex, and Relationships; Personal Development tips; Communication and Negotiation tips; Tax Secrets & Loopholes!
Investment and Stock Market tips; and Much More http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/prodeskcom The Ultimate Guide to Powerful Relationships is only $8.95 and looks very interesting. Comments, please. http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/unicades Here's a new one I found which needs to be reviewed: "Guys! Get More Pussy with our Adult Personals Inside Secrets Guide! Plus! Free Survey Results of Women Using Personals for Sex The Guide contains the following Inside Secrets Replying to ads - how to get noticed and get a date for hot sex.
Placing ads - how to beat the competition and get lots of replies How to handle follow up communication to keep her interested. Examples of replies that worked on us. You can just copy and paste these into your ads or replies. Saves you time and increases your chances! A directory of the best websites for meeting hot women! Sick of chicks who are only into cybersex and nothing else! The Guide contains a list of the best adult personals sites."
http://secure.ibill.com/cgi-win/ccard/rscookie.exe?RevShareID=9804000000274976& returnto=http://www.mysexinfo.com <http://www.mysexinfo.com/ Secrets of Power Persuasion! A course by Jian Wang to teach you how to write hypnotic language to make others obey your command.
http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/mrchange Arte's New Sex Video is kind of interesting. He shows a lot about playing with a woman's g spot (which he demonstrates on his comely girlfriend - but I could have done without seeing your dick, Arte). I will do a more extensive review after I have watched it again more carefully: http://amos.simonweb.com/loveebook/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=lrec HERE'S A NEW ONE
Suspect your spouse of cheating on you? Check this out http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/spouse1

FREE PLUGS
The following are all recommended but clicking on the links and buying from them doesn't send any money back here (it is also recommended that the sponsors of these sites consider setting this up -- from the little experience I have had since I started the commercial section a couple of weeks ago, I think you are missing a lot of business by not doing this) http://www.speed-seduction.com/ - The # 1 source; read the free newsletters & get the basic course.
http://www.trucor.com/ - Major Mark's site, the place to learn hypnosis and about married women
http://www.essential-skills.com/ - learn anchoring, tonality, rapport, goal getting, etc.
http://www.davidshade.com/ Give women incredible pleasure get David Shade's Manual
http://www.fastseduction.com/ - great resource, a must visit http://www.sosuave.com/ - lots of free materials, many good ideas and articles http://www.mindcontrolmanual.com/ - seduce men and women through the power of the mind
http://www.oscarbruce.com/ - All his books deal with perusasion, manipulation and a mild form of seduction. Books like School for Scoundrels focus on getting your way with people and getting them to see things your way.

Get on Mystery's Lounge - send him an email at [email protected] (note this new email address) with REQUEST MEMBERSHIP in the subject line.
Include your REAL name, your experience, background in the PUA, some online PUA's who can vouch for you (references), and a real pic of yourself. If you do not wish to give this REAL information, don't join. Only the PRO's are in there anyways - we discuss lots of stuff but it's the REAL pix of our conquests and the fact that we don't HIDE who we are to each other that makes it appealing. MANY of the members Mystery has personally sarged with.
The rule is simple don't fuck up anyone's game. If you can abide by that and have a track record for contributing, then that's basically good as gold. Pix are a requirement, however. The Lounge is in many ways an EXTENSION of Cliff's List and is not an alternative. You don't have to be a PRO, but you MUST play the game. If you are only WANTING to ONE DAY chase skirts, please don't bother joining.
Mystery is now offering his in-field Mystery Method (MM) BASIC TRAINING workshop in several cities. Click http://mysterymethod.1avenue.com/ for more information, workshop locations, dates & to sign up.

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New Links to be explored (WE NEED THESE REVIEWED!): 1) The website reads as follows and we need someone's review of this: "Impress everybody! Make your life happen on purpose! Matthew Whiting an English and Psychology graduate from Canterbury University and later a graduate of The National Academy of Performing Arts, has created this revolutionary step-by-step training system which will give you the means to becoming irresistibly attractive. Hence enabling you to gain the relationship and life that you want. Whether it is on stage or in real life we all know the "x" factor when we see it! But can we produce our own individual "x factor"? In this book Matthew Whiting's radical new approach to "being irresistibly attractive" will show you how to: Master these personal strategies to become more Charismatic: · Learn how to be master of your own intention · Taking action
· Being a successful leader
· Learning confidence
· ...and a lot more...
Master these personal strategies for more Passion: · How to be funny
· Leaving a lasting impression
· How to utilize the power of speech
· Extraordinary kissing
· Flirting - a delightful, innocent, and respectful way to play with each other!
· ...and a lot more...(18 Chapters in total!) This book is jam-packed with tonnes of information, (185 A4-size pages). It is written in a tongue-in-cheek manner which is easy to follow, and you are sure to enjoy. Once you experience the marvelous changes that Matthew Whiting enables you to make, you can shape your relationships and other life circumstances exactly as you'd like them to be." http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/unicades 2) How to create sexual chemistry! This one looks interesting -- we need a review!
http://www.attractwomennow.com/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi/Cliffslist 3) Welcome to CheekyCherry.co.uk, home of what has been called the bible of 'attracting women, keeping them and sleeping with them'.
http://www.cheekycherry.co.uk/Main_categories/seduction_and_dating/dating_guide.html 4) Courses for women to seduce men!
http://www.ihrt.co.uk/seductionsystems/text%20gals.htm 5) Guys Guide to Girls - A guide to relationships. How to overcome shyness and understand your partner... http://www.philipov.com/guys1.htm 6) Wally's Seduction Tips for Desperate Bachelors http://www.wallyandmurk.com/wally/sedution/Wallymag.html 7) Help with seduction - for women who want to seduce men.
http://www.seducehim.com/
8) The website reads as follows and we need someone's review of this: "Ladies! Never date a stranger unless you've checked him out first!
Fortunately, a basic background check is an easy thing to do, via the telephone and the Internet. In just a matter of minutes, you can find out a great deal on your own about any potential date (or even your fiance' or husband) using the simple, free background check techniques described in our new "how-to" manual.
CHECK HIM OUT FIRST! "Check Him Out! - The American Woman's Guide to Background Investigations" guides you through the entire background check process using clear, nontechnical language. You'll be amazed to learn that there's a lot that can be done just by using the telephone intelligently!
Without even touching a computer, you can usually verify someone's name, address, age, occupation, and even marital status over the telephone if you know which government public records office to call and what information to ask for. "Check Him Out!" is written for you -- the American woman with no knowledge of public records and background checks, but with a need to do some quick basic checking. It's easy to follow, and while it won't make you a seasoned "gumshoe," it will make you quite knowledgeable about the subject and will teach you all you need to know to conduct a thorough basic background check on your own -- plus, it will show you where and how to get competent, reasonably priced help if you later decide you want a more complex, in-depth background check done. All this for $11.95 is hard to beat!" http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/washres 9) For those of you interested in being a bigger man, check out: http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/yourown/bigdickie.htm

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