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Remember to remember to attend The David Seminar:
We are planning this out and it should be a real blast. If you are thinking of coming, make your reservation early!
Now you can pay through Paypal and this allows payments by credit cards. Just go to www.paypal.com (the email address you need to use is [email protected]).
The seminar will be held November 16-18 here in Montreal and more information is available by emailing me. Cost is $500 US with a $200 US deposit. Early registrations are greatly encouraged.
David will be elaborating on his system to find, meet, attract, bed, and keep women.
Among the topics David will discuss and present his views on will be: - Confidence
- How to really get back your ex or to attract that one special girl - How to
pick up strippers
- How to create, manage and keep a "stable" of women simultaneously
- How to have threesomes and multiples
- How to overcome resistance when you are about to close the deal - How he uses
language (he has many unique ideas that you won't learn through NLP or anywhere
else)
- The importance of setting your rules and sticking to them - How honesty, trust
and respect are your golden keys (this is the reframe to beat all reframes)
and much more. David will also spend time giving his ideas about how to solve
your individual issues.
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NightLight9:
NightLight9 comments: I was listening to the radio this morning and they were
asking people when a relationship started (i.e. how do you know/classify you're
in a relationship). I swear most of the women who called sounded like they were
doing Ross Jeffries sound bites. One of them said "I just felt an instant
connection." Another one said "we were writing a book and was giving
the perfect marriage proposal for the character in the book" (quotes anyone?).
Of other note: One chick was a stripper and said she said she had love at first
sight with her BF who was the manager of the club. She auditioned for him. During
the audition he said to his co-worker "I'm going to marry that woman."
Then he walked up to her after the audition and said, "You know you are
going to be my woman now, right?" Obviously these two had a "chemical"
response to each other. Now, when I'm really on, my goal and reality as a seducer
is to have a chemical response with every woman I meat.
(Commenting on: "Mark B: There is a great section in the Men's Health site with a woman honestly answering guys questions. here is the link. <http://www.menshealth.com/sex2/girlnextdoor.shtml> Check out the one about nice guys versus not so nice guys especially."):
Definitely check out this link! There is some crap to wade through, but even
most of that is not too AFC. Some of the stuff like this is golden: Q: I was
just skimming through the questions and I came across one in which you mention
the "sweet spot" of a woman's back. "-and he definitely won't
put his hands on that sweet spot just above her hips when he kisses her good
night." Your words. I'm curious, where exactly is this spot?
A: Glad you asked. It's the area halfway between her armpit and hip on the sides
of her torso. While you're kissing her, put your hands on her waist, then slide
them up to this part of her body, just barely brushing the side of her breasts
as you do it. You'll be turning her on without really making a move, which is
perfect for a first or second date situation. There's something about that almost-touch
that makes us kind of crazy.
(Commenting on: "Mark B: They also suggest complementing a woman within
a short time of meeting her to show your romantic interest - something that
has always worked for me no matter how much others suggest that it's wrong to
do."):
I think that compliments when a women feels like you are on the same or higher level than her, or when she's already attracted to you are great (particularly if you know which ones she will respond to and how to deliver them). I think the problem is most guys seem like they are trying when they compliment. If I were teaching you to play basketball, I would tell you to square up for every shot. If you were to ask Michael Jordan if you should square up for every shot, he'd probably say yes. If you watch him play, it's clear he doesn't need to square up for every shot. If Kobe Bryant asks MJ if he should square up for every shot, I bet his answer would differ a lot from what he told you.
(Commenting on:
>Bucky:
>I'm wondering, how do some of you guys handle flakiness from chicks?
>Lately, practically every girl that has agreed to meet me for a coffee date
>has ended up not showing up. What's up with that?
>It should be noted that all these girls are right around the ages of 19-21
>so I assume that flakiness should be expected. I'm curious about how much
>the flakiness has to do with me and how much it has to do with the fact
>that young girls are generally pretty flaky. If anyone has experience in
>dealing with younger chicks, your help would be appreciated.):
I think you need to address the bigger issue of getting them to want you to
call them. It's easy to get a phone number. If you think you are PUA because
you get lots of phone numbers, you are sadly fooling yourself. One phone number
of a girl that really wants me to call, and who I can continue the seduction
on that call is worth ten that don't want to see me, but gave me their number
for one reason or another.
There are lots of reasons a girl might give you her real number (thinks you're
harmless, is too nice to say no, figures you won't call, is never home...) To
carry this further, you could be blowing it on the call because you don't have
your state right. I consider from Intro to first planned meeting of first kiss
to be attract phase. A number close is really only an opportunity for an extension
of the attract phase.
If at least 30% of the women don't seem genuinely excited that you called, you
bet your attract phase is the problem.
(Commenting on:
>Also, does anyone have any good responses for when chicks say, "I don't
>give out my #." I've heard that one a few times in the past couple
of weeks >and haven't been able to overcome it yet. Thanks.):
Once again, if you get this (a lot) it is a good indication that your attract phase wasn't as strong as it should have been. That said there are lots of answers to this one. Search ASF archives and you'll find lots of counters to overcome this well known objection.
(Commenting on: "Mark B.:
>I also wanted to know what is the real motivation for any of you to want
to >become great PUA's. Other than having sexual gratification what motivates
>you to have the ability to have and get many women. A friend of mine who
>is on the list suggested that many of the things we post are hateful to
>women. I would disagree but I am curious what are the deep seated >motivations
for us being so heavily involved in wanting to be highly >successful with
the opposite sex?):
The quest to become a great PUA is inherently a little 'unhealthy' (as are
all quests that lead to being great at something), that's why completely 'healthy'
people are so boring, they never amount to anything :-) For me there are a few
things.
1) the acceptance and value by women of me is important to me. This is something
that I see as negative and is changing over time.
2) It is a challenge.
3) I want the respect of other men.
4) I want to settle down and marry someday if I meet the right woman. When I
meet her I want to be in the best possible position to get her.
5) I really like sex and BJ's.
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GoneSavage:
I'm studying for a Drama Appreciation class and I came across this quote.
It is a piece of a LECTURE made by Tyrone Guthrie in 1952. It's a lovely metaphor,
reframe through contrasts, and I can just picture this dude standing in front
of his audience using dick points, tonality shifts, and all that. I found it
too amusing not to transcribe. I know someone on this list will pick it up and
actually use it anyway. Remember this is a direct quote!
"A GOOD conductor is a man with a fine technique of the stick. He has a
clear and expressive beat, and is an interesting chap to watch. He can bring
one section in with a fine gesture and blot another out. He knows his score,
but it is all interesting showmanship.
But the GREAT conductor does not require any of those things. He can have a
terrible beat and look like nothing on earth, but if he is a great conductor
every man in the orchestra will give, under his baton, not only a better performance
than he would under another conductor, but a better performance than he new
he could give. It's not gotten out of them by instruction; it is a process of
psychic evocation."
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Mystery:
Here is the first post from a student of my workshop ... there will be more
on asf but I'm sure many would like to know how it went. just so you know, it
kicked ass! I will definitely do more of them ... they will be 3 days long and
not 4 and I'll charge $600 ($100 more than before) but will do 6 hours a day
rather than 5.
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From: christopher powles ([email protected]) Subject: Re: Mystery's seminar
in LA
Date: 2001-10-23
Yes, it went great. I have so much to say, and Í'm out of the country
right now. I have a few quick thoughts to share if you are READY for it, it
is invaluable. In other words, if you have absolutely no game and cannot carry
on a conversation with a woman, it may not be worth it. If, however, you have
some game and want to improve it or get to the next level, the class will really
blow you away. I learned so much in just a few days that it will take me months
before I can implement it. But I know that the field report I just posted the
other day with four kiss closes would not have been possible without what I
learned. It makes such a huge difference to be watching and doing it, instead
of just reading about it. I got three number closes and one kind of weak kiss
close my first night out, which is alright, considering I was in a group of
five guys.
And, honestly, what I loved most in the class is that it was like being out
with the asf newsgroup whispering in your ear. Many people here go out sarging,
come back without a good close, and then post asking for advice on what they
should have done. Well, here, you're sitting on a couch with a girl, and Mystery
is coming over or sending someone over to whisper just what to do in your ear,
like MORE KINO or TIME CONSTRAINT, CLOSE NOW or TURN AWAY FROM HER FOR A SECOND
WHEN SHE DOES THAT AGAIN or PHASE SHIFT or TELL HER SHE HAS NICE SKIN AND RUB
HER SHOULDER or whatever.
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Sergio:
I want to know about natural penis enlargement exercises. I've read about some
on the
Internet and I am sick of being 'average' all my life! Has anyone done them
and got them to work (I haven't!) and have any hints or tips for little ('average')
Sergio?
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Mark B.:
On the topic of assuming a negative outcome.
Over the weekend I read a book called the Positive Power of Negative Thinking
by Julie Norem.
The book talks about defensive pessimists which are people who assume that the
worst will likely happen and prepare extensively for that occurrence. These
are not negative
people because they have hope for a positive outcome but remain realistic by
assuming that there will be problems along the way and things may not go their
way. She also says that not everyone can be an optimist or converted to one
and have it work for them. In fact, she has conducted studies which show that
people who are pessimists by nature do worse on assigned tests and tasks when
they are told to be optimistic about their outcomes.
Conversely people that are natural optimists do worse when they are told to
assume the possibility of failure. Therefore the attitude of assuming the worst
outcome is not something that can work for everyone but it can work for those
of us who worry and feel nervous and anxious about meeting women or dealing
with them especially for the first time. By assuming a high likelihood of negative
outcome but having hope for a positive one, defensive pessimists are able to
deal with their anxiety and nervousness.
North American society has ingrained in us the need to be positive and that
it's really the only way to achieve our goals. When we have negative thoughts
we somehow see ourselves as bad people or inadequate in someway.
The problem is compounded when we try to be optimistic, fail and feel crushed
as a result and immobilized from further action. I know many people who say
they had goals and objectives only to be crushed and give up when they did not
pan out. It's never good to feel this way for you want to live your life to
the fullest.
I realized that in essence I am one of these defensive optimists. I do the best
when I assume that odds are that things will go wrong or nothing will happen
but I still have hope they will work out. I do the best when I assume things
will be difficult and when I place huge goals for myself, almost ones that are
impossible to reach. But although they seem impossible to reach I work my butt
off and even if I get half way there I still do well. Reading this book and
looking back over my life I see that I thrive on adversity and do the best when
I set huge challenges in front of myself and assume
high difficulty of achieving my goal.
For example, I am much more motivated by the goal of sleeping with 100 women
in one year than with 10 which is more realistic. It's likely that if my goal
is 100 than I may reach 30 or 40 but that is better than 10. I am much more
motivated to improve when I assume that most women will not want to go out with
me or by knowing that picking up women is difficult and when it happens I am
not crushed but when I have success it's a pleasant surprise and I am much happier
this way.
I also looked back at the beginning of my two LTR's and realized that when I
went out with both women I had no intention of either one of them being my girlfriend
but only wanted to go out and have a good time. I assumed nothing would ever
come out of it but something did. Each time I went out with the intent of making
a woman my girlfriend little ever worked out.
When I did not care about whether a woman agreed to a date, virtually all agreed
and vice versa but I could never understand or figure out how to get myself
to that non-caring but still caring state. Now I know - assume the worst but
hope for the best. It's like becoming aware of what works for you and then living
it.
For me the most frustrating thing in my life has been trying to be positive
and think positively. Virtually every book in the self help section tells you
how to be positive but for me it only serves to further my anxiety.
When I think of approaching a woman and wanting a positive response even the
thought of being shut down is enough to make me not approach her but when I
assume that she is most likely not to be receptive I have a lot more courage
and feel calm and relaxed when going up to her. This is my key for being totally
confident and relaxed with little anxiety over my outcomes.
This is my way of living the Tao of Steve. With this realization I feel invigorated
and energized to go back out there and become the true master.
I highly suggest this book and some honest self reflection to anyone who has
ever tried to be positive only to feel worse about it or for those with high
levels of nervousness or anxiety about an outcome that seems to stifle your
best efforts. It prevents you from feeling crushed and immobilized when things
do not go your way and more importantly allows you to keep going in the face
of failure and adversity which is really the key to success - being able to
get up after being knocked down by life, and in our case by women. Like I said,
it's not for everyone but for those that are this way it's a life saver.
I highly suggest you at least browse through the book and I would like to hear
your thoughts and experiences with this.
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Voodoo Daddy (http://www.dwacon.com):
I was at a happy hour and figured it's time to try some high-octane sarging...
so I meet this HB10+ and start with some generic patterning (no connection,
all arousal) and she's touching me and we're doing kino... so she tells me her
favorite sex joke (penises are like fish: throw back the small ones, eat the
medium ones, mount the big ones). So, I tell her RJ's "voodoo dildo"
joke. She says, "that's a long one." I say, "you can tell while
we're still dressed?" She gives me her number. I go to leave, she says
to meet at her place.
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Caco:
Time for an outing (rather, fuckup) report from my side for the list.
First some background info on the thing .. this is about a marriage I went to
recently. Hindu marriages in India are a long drawn out affair, spread over
three odd days, and several rituals and ceremonies.
The main thing was on the first nite when we had a Ladies' music programme (some
singing and dancing plus some traditional makeup). Now on this day I met three
different females, one a 19 year HB8Eyes who had those seductive eyes like the
models. Then a 15 year old HB9+ who was a neighbour (I'd have done anything
to get her when I was 15 - I'm 19 now ; ) and a 17 year old HB7. Now in the
evening we teenagers were having our own dance party when this HB7 (the 17 year
old)comes up to me and puts a bag in front of me. The conversation followed:
Me: (I wait for one second then look surprisedly into her eyes) Hey, what's
this for?
HB7: Well, don't you have any decency or chivalry? What does a girl mean when
she does this?. Take this to <named another place .. > Me: (I laugh as
if some big joke is on) hehe .. Decency and chivalry <pause> me? You've
got to be kidding. No way, you ain't my sister and you ain't my gf. It's your
thing do it yourself.
Then I walked out of the room calmly leaving her fuming and fretting. Next time
I see her she says 'You are so baad ...' I put on a really amused expression
and say 'SO?' and all my cousins nearby break out laughing.
(Thanks, Sisonpyh, for the bratty sister frame, which I consciously remembered.)
Neway, meanwhile I also met this 15 year old HB9+ I'd talked about earlier.
Perfect body, pouting lips and a killer smile. While on the dance floor she
was preening quite a lot (good dancer, though) so all I do is go and copy her
best steps right in front of her and in a really idiotic fashion. In such a
comical way that even she stops, bursts out laughing and says "Brother,
don't do that!"
Later she hangs on to me during the rest of the ceremonies, as in I'm the only
guy she stays with. She acts damn cold with the other guys and my cousin later
tells me that they were really surprised by her warm and nice behaviour towards
me which wasn't typical of her. Bratty sister frame rulez!
Yeah and another thing I did to her: she had her hair tied up in a bun. So I
went up to her and said: "Hey, you look sooo cute! <pause and cheesy
smile> Your hair looks like an ice cream scoop <pause and another smile>
can I take a bite?"
Omigod, everyone around cracked up laughing and I had such a ball. But that
sure set the tone for her to talk to me and she wasn't bitchy at all with me
; ) She knew I was a practical joker and that she'd better watch her step around
me.
Then there was the bride's sister (a 7). Met her on the dance floor and I start
some light kino. And later without much talk, only a few jokes in between I
got in to heavy kino, much to the surprise of others around. Got her number
at the end though.
Onto the big fuckup: the 19 year old HB8 eyes I mentioned earlier.
Met her, built some rapport then went into the strawberry and cube games. Her
cube btw was: small 20 cm, ladder resting on cube, horse strong but far from
cube and standing alone while flowers were far out. The clouds kinda hang over
the cube (what do these clouds mean, guys?) did some more value elicitation
and kinda busted her when she talked about her ideal relationship. She said
she needed a guy better than her current bf, someone who was fun and exciting
and not just a door mat. Someone who could turn the fires on within her and
someone who could give her the kind of relationship that she needed, and she
said some lines about following her heart and doing what she really wants deep
inside.
Now during this she had gone into a DDB state but some cousins came over and
took her away for some shit job (Q:how could I have avoided this cockblock?).
I kinda resisted but then said okay. Now I didn't know how to close here cuz
we still had some more time which we had to spend nearby each other and I felt
like I was staling going on talking. But I didn't know anything better, so I
disappeared for some time only to find her back and looking for me. Then we
spent some more time together about some fluff (I was damned tired) and soon
left though she didn't say bye to me properly (suddenly disappeared without
me doing a proper bf destroyer on her ; ) The next day, we meet and I say "Hi,
I think we have met before, haven't we? <pause> Aha! I met you at <cousin's
name>'s marriage. What side were you from: the brides' or the grooms'?"
Now at this point she breaks into a smile and apologizes for not saying bye
to me last time and then grabs my arm and says "Come to the Dance floor."
I Kinda show some resistance but go there and get light kino going. Some 15
minutes later her friends show up and they take her away while I was dancing
there (I was dancing with the other females mentioned earlier). Her bf appears
and she dances with him for some time. Then without any warning she kinda ignores
me and dances with another guy who was her neighbour. This happens for some
10-15 minutes after which I tell myself "Fuck it" and proceed to have
a ball with the other girls I already had with me and ignored her. Some time
later, she gives me one of those "Why are you not paying attention to me?"
looks while with her bf. Now this is where I think I finally fucked up: I couldn't
decide what to do, but rather than supplicate and go to her, I just ignored
her and continued dancing till the end of the evening.
So guys, do send in your opinions and constructive criticisms especially with
regard to the last HB8eyes. How could I have improved it?
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Leo: (Commenting on:"Mark B.:
Regarding the "How to Succeed with Women" book: 162 pages into the
book I see the guys are geniuses. They have a slew of other tips and recommendations
and just by reading the first 162 pages one could have great success with that
alone."):
Their tip to wave to girls is priceless. Just wave to them anytime anywhere.
You'll be amazed with the response.
Another great advice (not related to PU directly) is to put shoe trees into
your shoes.
Their book, however, just like anything else, requires discretion: some of their
advice is totally AFCish.
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PRODUCTS AND LINKS (There's some NEW STUFF in here, and I will try and put something new in here as often as possible):
For those of you who are just reading about this for the first time, I decided a couple of emails ago to add links to these emails. The idea would be to get enough money in to hire someone to take over the administrative work (and also to buy things which would improve this list, such as proper mailing list software) for this list. If you were going to buy the product anyway, just use the link that appears below and you are helping to keep this list going at no extra cost to anyone.
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One of the more useful links I have set up is to amazon.com -- I know I buy
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the same time. If anyone has any other suggestions of sites that would be a
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has one of the most enticing websites. An updated review would also be welcome.
http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/showsite.verotel?vercode=66629804000000274976
This one also looked pretty interesting. The link for more information on breakups
and loving-styles is http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/Tigress Success Secrets
Our free newsletter reveals it all Money and Personal Finance secrets; Business
& Marketing secrets; Health, Fitness, and Weight-Loss advice; Self Defense
secrets; Memory Improvement tips; Smart Advice on Flirting, Dating, Sex, and
Relationships; Personal Development tips; Communication and Negotiation tips;
Tax Secrets & Loopholes!
Investment and Stock Market tips; and Much More http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/prodeskcom
The Ultimate Guide to Powerful Relationships is only $8.95 and looks very interesting.
Comments, please. http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/unicades Here's a new
one I found which needs to be reviewed: "Guys! Get More Pussy with our
Adult Personals Inside Secrets Guide! Plus! Free Survey Results of Women Using
Personals for Sex The Guide contains the following Inside Secrets Replying to
ads - how to get noticed and get a date for hot sex.
Placing ads - how to beat the competition and get lots of replies How to handle
follow up communication to keep her interested. Examples of replies that worked
on us. You can just copy and paste these into your ads or replies. Saves you
time and increases your chances! A directory of the best websites for meeting
hot women! Sick of chicks who are only into cybersex and nothing else! The Guide
contains a list of the best adult personals sites."
http://secure.ibill.com/cgi-win/ccard/rscookie.exe?RevShareID=9804000000274976&
returnto=http://www.mysexinfo.com <http://www.mysexinfo.com/ Secrets of Power
Persuasion! A course by Jian Wang to teach you how to write hypnotic language
to make others obey your command.
http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/mrchange Arte's New Sex Video is kind of
interesting. He shows a lot about playing with a woman's g spot (which he demonstrates
on his comely girlfriend - but I could have done without seeing your dick, Arte).
I will do a more extensive review after I have watched it again more carefully:
http://amos.simonweb.com/loveebook/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=lrec HERE'S A
NEW ONE
Suspect your spouse of cheating on you? Check this out http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/spouse1
FREE PLUGS
The following are all recommended but clicking on the links and buying from
them doesn't send any money back here (it is also recommended that the sponsors
of these sites consider setting this up -- from the little experience I have
had since I started the commercial section a couple of weeks ago, I think you
are missing a lot of business by not doing this) http://www.speed-seduction.com/
- The # 1 source; read the free newsletters & get the basic course.
http://www.trucor.com/ - Major Mark's site, the place to learn hypnosis and
about married women
http://www.essential-skills.com/ - learn anchoring, tonality, rapport, goal
getting, etc.
http://www.davidshade.com/ Give women incredible pleasure get David Shade's
Manual
http://www.fastseduction.com/ - great resource, a must visit http://www.sosuave.com/
- lots of free materials, many good ideas and articles http://www.mindcontrolmanual.com/
- seduce men and women through the power of the mind
http://www.oscarbruce.com/ - All his books deal with perusasion, manipulation
and a mild form of seduction. Books like School for Scoundrels focus on getting
your way with people and getting them to see things your way.
Get on Mystery's Lounge - send him an email at [email protected] (note
this new email address) with REQUEST MEMBERSHIP in the subject line.
Include your REAL name, your experience, background in the PUA, some online
PUA's who can vouch for you (references), and a real pic of yourself. If you
do not wish to give this REAL information, don't join. Only the PRO's are in
there anyways - we discuss lots of stuff but it's the REAL pix of our conquests
and the fact that we don't HIDE who we are to each other that makes it appealing.
MANY of the members Mystery has personally sarged with.
The rule is simple don't fuck up anyone's game. If you can abide by that and
have a track record for contributing, then that's basically good as gold. Pix
are a requirement, however. The Lounge is in many ways an EXTENSION of Cliff's
List and is not an alternative. You don't have to be a PRO, but you MUST play
the game. If you are only WANTING to ONE DAY chase skirts, please don't bother
joining.
Mystery is now offering his in-field Mystery Method (MM) BASIC TRAINING workshop
in several cities. Click http://mysterymethod.1avenue.com/ for more information,
workshop locations, dates & to sign up.
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New Links to be explored (WE NEED THESE REVIEWED!): 1) The website reads as
follows and we need someone's review of this: "Impress everybody! Make
your life happen on purpose! Matthew Whiting an English and Psychology graduate
from Canterbury University and later a graduate of The National Academy of Performing
Arts, has created this revolutionary step-by-step training system which will
give you the means to becoming irresistibly attractive. Hence enabling you to
gain the relationship and life that you want. Whether it is on stage or in real
life we all know the "x" factor when we see it! But can we produce
our own individual "x factor"? In this book Matthew Whiting's radical
new approach to "being irresistibly attractive" will show you how
to: Master these personal strategies to become more Charismatic: · Learn
how to be master of your own intention · Taking action
· Being a successful leader
· Learning confidence
· ...and a lot more...
Master these personal strategies for more Passion: · How to be funny
· Leaving a lasting impression
· How to utilize the power of speech
· Extraordinary kissing
· Flirting - a delightful, innocent, and respectful way to play with
each other!
· ...and a lot more...(18 Chapters in total!) This book is jam-packed
with tonnes of information, (185 A4-size pages). It is written in a tongue-in-cheek
manner which is easy to follow, and you are sure to enjoy. Once you experience
the marvelous changes that Matthew Whiting enables you to make, you can shape
your relationships and other life circumstances exactly as you'd like them to
be." http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/unicades 2) How to create sexual
chemistry! This one looks interesting -- we need a review!
http://www.attractwomennow.com/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi/Cliffslist 3)
Welcome to CheekyCherry.co.uk, home of what has been called the bible of 'attracting
women, keeping them and sleeping with them'.
http://www.cheekycherry.co.uk/Main_categories/seduction_and_dating/dating_guide.html
4) Courses for women to seduce men!
http://www.ihrt.co.uk/seductionsystems/text%20gals.htm 5) Guys Guide to Girls
- A guide to relationships. How to overcome shyness and understand your partner...
http://www.philipov.com/guys1.htm 6) Wally's Seduction Tips for Desperate Bachelors
http://www.wallyandmurk.com/wally/sedution/Wallymag.html 7) Help with seduction
- for women who want to seduce men.
http://www.seducehim.com/
8) The website reads as follows and we need someone's review of this: "Ladies!
Never date a stranger unless you've checked him out first!
Fortunately, a basic background check is an easy thing to do, via the telephone
and the Internet. In just a matter of minutes, you can find out a great deal
on your own about any potential date (or even your fiance' or husband) using
the simple, free background check techniques described in our new "how-to"
manual.
CHECK HIM OUT FIRST! "Check Him Out! - The American Woman's Guide to Background
Investigations" guides you through the entire background check process
using clear, nontechnical language. You'll be amazed to learn that there's a
lot that can be done just by using the telephone intelligently!
Without even touching a computer, you can usually verify someone's name, address,
age, occupation, and even marital status over the telephone if you know which
government public records office to call and what information to ask for. "Check
Him Out!" is written for you -- the American woman with no knowledge of
public records and background checks, but with a need to do some quick basic
checking. It's easy to follow, and while it won't make you a seasoned "gumshoe,"
it will make you quite knowledgeable about the subject and will teach you all
you need to know to conduct a thorough basic background check on your own --
plus, it will show you where and how to get competent, reasonably priced help
if you later decide you want a more complex, in-depth background check done.
All this for $11.95 is hard to beat!" http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/washres
9) For those of you interested in being a bigger man, check out: <http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/yourown/bigdickie.htm>
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