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	Memorial note from Shalomo Schwartz about his father,Mordechai ben Shalom haLevi; 

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	Art Waskow on Tesha b'Av; 

Translation via the Schaefers of Nesivos Shalom:  tora from theSlonimer Rebbe; 

Teaching from the Schaefers on Tesha b'av:  "Reb Shlomo says, whena parent hears their baby cry, they know exactly what the babywants."  
Schaefers  add, as usual:  "Words of Rabbi Carlebach by permissionof the Carlebach family."  Which does suggest that they have somecollection of R. SC material, but do not wish to publicize itwithout assent from same. 

	Teaching from David Staloff; recollection of "KiddushhaLevana Menachem Av Yerushalyaim 5733:  Our Rebbe and the Rebbeof Amshinov; 

A neo-myth from a neo-hosid; an eloquent tribute to the GratefulDead from a grateful yid (from Michael Ozair) 
{ which makes me wonder, briefly, what I missed sitting on thedirt in New Mexico chewing on dried cactus; --sa} 
"Reb Shlomo Carlebach was once asked which kin of niggunim(melodies_  were among his favorite.  He answerd the ones that youcan cry to, laugh to and dance with, all at the same time."

Quotes the following teaching:
"As much as it takes a lot of holiness and depth to know how tolaugh, it takes even more holiness to know how to cry. But it'simportant that you know one thing that all the rebbes say, theBaal Shem, Reb Nachman, all the rebbes.  That even while you'resad, don't ever stop being filled with joy.  You are absolutelynot permitted, even for one split second, to stop being filledwith joy.  Because if you truly believe there is One G_d in theworld, then you also believe that He is taking care of our worldas well.  So how could you be sad.  But the problem is, I'm stilla human being and I'm still so sad, so broken. "
 [quote apparently ends here.] 

A note (from MO or DS) that R.SC never criticized those for whomhe had served as the first bridge back to Yiddishkeit, and wholater faulted him for not being more frum.
[ though if memory serves, he would sometimes take note of it.  sa]                                             

{Comment (sa):  It's a real disservice to make a great teacher outas holier than he was.  For in that simplification one is apt toobscure the very subtlties that us ordinary folk need to make arole-model a practical paradigm.   (And this is:  "how he tied hisshoelaces.  Like I've said, Prof. Paul Wienpahl of UCSB made thispoint re:  descriptions of Zen masters.) }

Art Waskow:  Teaching with commentary on a teaching about Tu b'Avfrom the B'ne Yesakhar, R. Zvi Elimelekh Shapira of Dinov., p112d.
                                                
David Staloff on a remark by Rebbe Yerachmiel of Pshiche:  "RebbeYerachmiel expalined:  'Sometimes you find dead people who act asthough they were alive.  And sometimes you find the living whoacdt  as though they were dead. " "...What is really difficult isto resurrect the living.  Since they think they're really alive,it would take a miracle to revive them." 
{Comment (sa):  Jesus of Natzereth [ or 'the Nazir'?] had somenice remarks on the subject, as best they've come down to usthrough all them Greeks.  We always throw out all the wrongstuff.}

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Complete teaching:  "The Holiness of the Land of of its People, byRabbi Shlomo Carlebach, Brooklyn NY 5746 , transcribed by RivkaHunt; reprinted with permission from Connections magazine;Copyright (C) 1986 Congregation Kehilat Jacob, Hakrev UshmaDivsion.
I think this was posted to Website. 

Art Waskow announces an Amazing Jewish Poetry Festival sponsoredby amkolel@aol.com  Am Kolel is "a Judaic resource and spirtualrenewal center, based in the washington D.C.area."

DS forwards an article about Neshama Carlebach's singing.
DS forwrds a reprint "The Soul of Reb Shlomo", Jewish Week Aug.15, 1997, by Sandee Brawarsky. Cites "Holy Brother:  INspritingStories and Enchanted Tales about Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach" by IttaHalberstam Mandlebaum (published by Aronson), with a forward byEli Wiesel.  Recounts that in Russia, R. Shlomo gave away tfilln,even his last pair, which had belonged to his father.   

Notes that the author noted that the Carlebach family `want toproduce their own works about Shlomo'.    The writer notes, from atelphone conversation, that NC 'explains that she is working on abiography of Shlomo's life and their life together and a volume ofhis teahcings which the describes as 'the first of many'.  She isalwo working with a friend in Israel on a volume of Shlomo'sstories.'"
Notes that Neshama Carlebach is Executor of the estate.
Notes that the book contains "brief teachings", apparently quotedfrom HBG.  Notes that HBG was published by HLP.
Reports that Putnam's Press was dissuaded from publication.
The writer remarks:  "[Arthur] Kurzweil [publisher of Aronson's]says that he had another book about Shlomo's teacings undercontract but decided not to go ahead with the project afterhearing from lawyers from the family.  He `hopes them's [input,sic, them's] more and more written aobut Shlomo.  It's a testimonyto the greatness of Shlomo Carelbach that there are so many peopleout there who want to keep his words of Torah alive."                                                        
{Comment (sa);  Arononson Press would seem to have set a benchmarkfor conscientious disinterested publication of texts intraditional (orthodox) Jewish religion.   Its books areexceptionally well designed (paper, typeface, layout, etc.. }

R. Intrator eloquently addresses an issue which I cannot identify. He remarks:  "Reb Shlomo used to say:  'G_d needs al the prayersand good actions {mitzvot, I presume -- sa} of a Reform Rabbi asmuch as He needs all the prayers and good actions of an OrthodoxRabbi.  [ I'm not clear if the quote from R. SC ends here.

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Art Waskow notes that R. Zalman Schachter's books include'Paradigm Shift' (Arononson), 'Spiritual Intimacy', and 'FromAgeing to Sage-ing.'
{REFERENCE (sa):  Also, inter alia:  'Fragments of a FutureScroll', Editted by Philip Mandelkorn & Stephen Gerstman, Leavesof Grass Press, Germantown, PA (1975); 'The First Step'(originally included, as I recall, in the Lama FoundationJewish/Sufi packet; reprinted as an Appendix to the (First, Red)Whole Jewish Catalogue.  Not to be confused with a much lessrigorous presentation in a small book, by R. Zalman (with aneditor), entitled 'The First Step.'
{Comment (sa):  As I recall, I transcribed or typed a small partof it, and managed, inadvertantly, to insert one bonmot:  R.Zalman had used the phrase 'nuclear family', to which I remarkedin parentheses "(papa proton, mama neutron, and a few juniorsspaced out and buzzing around who knows where)".  Anyhow,apparently the author and editor each thought the other had put inthe phrase, so it stayed.}

Dov Pear remarks:  "Once, while Reb Shlomo was eachigns at oshua'sand Emuna's holy house in Yerushaliem, he leaned over and said,'Brother, I have so man songs coming to me...bless me that Ishoudl have the guts to wear a head piece microphone so I canrecord all the time."  [Ellipsis as input; but maybe used only tomark a pause, not to note ellision from a transcript.]
Notes a Shabbat with R. Shlomo in Rowe, Massachusetts (his first,so mabye 1970s; including teachings of Reb Nachman on Sunday [somaybe he has a tape of that.]  Includes the famous line "It's OKBrother, open the door and let us in." [said by R. Shlomo to agentleman at the shul with a baseball bat.  It seems that Mr.Pear, from Massachusetts, had volunteered to enter a Manhattanbrownstone via the 2nd floor window.  Which ought not be donethere.] 

Complete teaching:  "On Being a Vessel for G_d's light'  HLP SanFrancisco 5732 (1972).  A Rav Kuk teaching by Reb ShlomoCarlebach.  Transcription by Donna Anderson Maimes.  [No ref toHBG to CNS specified.  I think this was posted to Website as=ravkuk.txt.  But this is clearly just a short excerpt, not a fulltape.

DS notes that Rab Zevi Padah is rosh yeshiva of Yeshivat BayitChadash, the Carlebach Yeshiva of NYC.
Notes that "Mindy Riber CSW is Director of the Jewish MeditationCircle.  Mindy received smicha from Reb Shlmo about 10 yearsago.", that she is "author of a book on practical teshuva, 'TheGift of a New Beginning'.  Robert Katz adds:  "I was at there whenReb Shlom gave Minday smicha to teach Jewish Meditation, and itwas an increidble gathering of chassidim from Boro Park andShlomo's chevere ...Mindy's meditations are form a very Jewihsplace.  They use the familiar preayer service, wrapped around thecore of Kabbala."
{Comment (sa):  I hadn't hitherto realized that 'smicha' does notnecesarrily mean 'rabbinic ordination'}.

DS notes:  "The Carlebach shul in NYC sells books, audio and videomaterials including a video of R. Shlomo leading the "hoshannarabba" davening."

Apparently 'Ne'eman' who transcribed many of the HLP teachings, isNe'eman Rosen.
Apparently 1972--1973 was the hay-day of the HLP.

The Carlebach shul announces a Yahrzeit celebration:  "The focusthis year will be on what we, as Reb Shlomo's talmidim (disciples)have done to carry on his legacy, his work, his toras, and hisways of spreading it to the whole world."  

A Jerusalem Report [semi-weekly magazine, liberal export] articlefrom 2 October 1997.  Remarks that R. SC "couldn't even readmusic".  
{Comment (sa):  I don't know; but I would often hear him call outkey-changes to his back-up musicians. I can sight-read withclarinet/recoder (but not voice); but I can't distinguish keys.}
Notes that Meor Modi'in was founded in 1977.  Mentions an SC-likeminyan at Rabbi Avi Weiss's Hebrew Institute of Riverdale, NY; andothers in Colorado & Monsey. 
Notes sales of 'Shlomo's Stories ' [Yael MeSinai at "some 10,000copies."	Notes "Reb Shloimele" by M.H. Brand (Hebrew), apparentlylaudatory.
Spells Modi'im Modi'in.  {I always call it Modi'in, because I onceread, and I think input, that R. Shlomo once translated it as 'thelight of letting people know', a play on modern Hebrew 'modi'in,information.  For a discussion of this point, see =e_m3 , input ofnotes about the Moshav probably written by (R.) Avraham-AryehTrugman} 
The writer discusses questions of publication, and notes that NCis concerned that [in the author's words] "Shlomo's image shouldbe protected".
{Comment (sa):  Speaking as a good Wittgensteinian, I would say: images must yield to truth; and that may generate a more beautifulimage (as-it-is-said, 'shatter your "ideals" [my scare-quotes]  onthe rock of truth').  I say:  to venerate an image is a mild formof idolatry.} 

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Shalom Shwartz offers a nice teaching of his own.
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Rolinda Schonwald writes of the Ben Yehuda St. terrorist bombing,on the 30th day after it.  Rather a powerful article.

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Shalom Schwartz:  Drash for Shabbat Tsuva (his own)

Avraham Zimberg offers a teaching.  He notes:
"Our Rebbe R;' Shlomo Carlebach used to say on Yom Kippur we wayto '' "A-lmight G_d, today you stand in judgment of us.  But I amsinging and dancing with joy, because there is no other that Iwould rather be judged by than you."
   "He also said that don't be discouraged if you are up high on alevel and come down a bit afterwards.  The mere fact that if wereach a high level at some point in our lives, perhaps it might beon Yom Kippur...if we would say "G_d ...irrespective of how I amthe rest of the years, I would sign on the dotted line here andnow to be this holy for eternity if not for the realities oflife..." makes it worthwhile.
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reval7@netvision.net.il, which is Reva l'Sheva, announces that 
"The Gift of Shabbos", now on CD, is produced by "the Reb ShlomoFoundation in Jerusalem".  Adds "Of course all orders are taxdeductible."

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Apparently R. Joe Schoenwald continues to serve as executivedirector of the R. Shlomo Carlebach Foundation (Jerusalem);rojo@netvision.net.il

Alon Teager checks in:  alan@huntlas.co.za , planning a Yahrzeitin Johannesburg.  Telephone:  011--885-2909

The Witts now have a FAX address:  972-2--624-5302 

Shalom Schwartz, having discovered a portable E-mail address withnetvision, borrows somebody's telephone and types:  "I am the onlypersion in the entire USA with a copy of this year's Kol Hevre,not bad."

Mordechai Pearlman writes of a Yahrzeit kumsitz in Toronto.  Heasks, writing from Toronto:   "Does nayone know where one canobtain tapes or copies of tpaes of shiurim that Reb Shlomo gave? "

DS retypes, or some such, "Practical Wisdom from Shlomo Carlebach,Tikkun Magazine, Fall 5758.  (Ie, autumn, 1998).
Interviewer was Michael Learner.  Interview was apparently given1993; 5 years later they publish it "to remind our community ofthe voices of tolerance in the Orthodox world"

NC seems to have drawn on this article in her article, asdistributed by Michael Ozair to LIST, 12/97.

At the start, R. Shlomo's words seem to have been editted for thisarticle; but then the editting seems to have dropped out.  It addsup to quite a good, rather moving article. 
I retype a few excerpts from it:

  "So I told the [Lubavitcher] Rebbe, 'When I told them that wehad to sit seperately men from women, I lost 90 people, and when Itold them that women couldn't sing, I lost nine more, and the oneperson who remained was the biggest idiot.  So instead of spendingtwo hours with people who wanted to know something aboutYiddishketit, I wasted my time on one idiot.  Let's assume thatit's very important that men and women shouldn't sit together. Still, this is like a manicure for Judaism, making it superbeautiful, but if the person is having a heart atack you don'tgive him a manicure.  So I can't do outreach [?kiruv?] this way."
	"So the Rebbe said to me, "I cannot tell you to do it yourway.  But I can't tell you not to do it your way.  So if you wantto do it on your own, G_d be with you.'  So I split.  If I hadstayed, and the Rebbe had gone with what I was saying, he couldhave beem Rebbe of the world, not just Rebbe of the Chasidim.
	"Take Woodstock.  Why should Swami Satchananda go there --why not the Lubavitcher Rebbe.  It would have been a gevalt -- itwould have changed a whole generation.  But the Rebbe chose to bethe Rebbe of the Chassidim.  You know, a few years after the Rebbebecame chosen to be the Lubavitcher Rebbe, he wrote a letter tohis Chasidim and said, 'I have so many unbelieveable dreams, but Ican't do them because your heads are so small."

"In 1959 I came out with my first record, and with the money Imade from that I bought myself a ticket and went to Israel."

{I gather from this article that  HLP was founded 1966, andcontinued to 1974.  So far, I've seen transcriptions mostly 19711972; maybe a few earlier ones. }

"I once went to visit our Israeli trops in Lebanon during theLebanese War, and I met the IDF chaplain and asked him, 'How iseverything' And he responded, 'Fine.  The meat is kosher.'  So Isaid, "I I want good salami I wouldn't come to Lebanon for it. How are the soldiers doing?  Are you talking to them ..."
    
{Before I forget again:  Somewhwere in the Archives, someonerecounts that R. Shlomo was once challenged, his his shul, on anhalakic opinion, by someone who said 'How to you know' to which hereplied [I'm quoting from that posting from memory] `Because I'm arabbi.  This is what I do.  What do you think I do, sellherring?'} 

"I hate the name baal teshuvah, becuase it implies that theseyoung people were doing wrong and now they are repenting.  I saidto the Jewish establishment, 'We have to do teshuvah, .  We havedone so much wrong that these kids left us.'

"I have to tell people to go to yheshiva to learn, andunforutunatley after a few weeks either they leave the yeshiva oryou don't recognize them anymore becaus the spark is gone fromtheir eyes and they don't care for the world any more."
      
Well,, I haven't retypes nearly all I'd like to; it was quite aninteriew.  Pity they didn't publish it sooner.

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The Trugmans foward a teaching from R. Yizhak Ginsburg, and notethat in the 1990's he and R. Shlomo were rather close.
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Mordechai Pearlman noted:  "Reb Shlomo Carlebach zt"l said:  Whenyou daven, don't turn the pages, let the pages turn you."

Mordechai Pearlman triggers a major flap with 4 words:  'Whatabout kol isha'?
Mordechai Pearlman quotes R. Shlomo, from 'Shabbos in Shomayim: 'For one page of the Gmora I would give my life a million times."

Art Waskow, writing from his home in Washington DC, remarks, "someof us disagree with what seems to have been Reb Shlomo'sopposition to dividing the Land of Abraham between Abraham's twofamilies."
{Comment (sa):  As I recall, that attitude started with Sarah. According to one report,  Abraham disagreed, but mediation wentwith the former.}

A debate then ensues over whether this is a proper subject fordebate.

MP requotes an extensive excerpt quoted by DS on 2 Dec and citedas from R. Shlomo Carlebach's Forward  to the book 'The CarlebachTradition'; MP remarks that it's not from the Forward
                                      
David Baron remarks:  "Reb Shlomo (ztz"l) often said that if oneis drowning, you don't call the Lubavitcher Rebbe (ztz"l) to findout if you're holy enough -- you dive in and save him/her"!"
{Comment (sa):  Apparently not a verbatim quote.}

R. Tendler remarks, in a letter to the Jewish Press:  "Yourreference to my statement to Miss Carlebach (Nov. 2, pg 38)[presumably citing the Jewish Press -- sa] is inaccurate.  Theprohibition of Kol Isha [ie, that a man must not hear a womansinging - sa] is halacha, not a custom.  It is the obligation ofTorah institutions who sponsor her performances to exclude menfrom the audience. / Rabbi Mordechai Tendler, Rav, Kehilat NewHempstead
{REFERENCE (sa):  R. Tendler also sent a letter on this subject tothe Jerusalem Post, which I posted to LIST; I think 3/98, butmaybe 2/98}

Mordechai Pearlman remarks:  "I see Reb Shlomo thorugh the eyes ofhis grandfather who is also my great-great-great-grandfather.  Itis not the way of a Carlebach to disregard halacha.  A Carlebachacts with his entire lineage behind him.  Reb Shlomo did not existin a vacuum .  He was a link in a chain of religous Jew, deeplycommitted to halacha and their fellow man.  A man who sees theworld differently.  {Comment (sa):  Cf. 'Halakic Man'} Even intheir external features Carlebachs remain differnet.  One canalways tell a Carlebach by their eyes.  Reb Shlomo has eyes likehis grandfather and like many of his uncles and cousins, some ofwhich live in Yerushelayim today." 

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Arthur Weiss point out an asymetry in innovative/orthodoxflamewars:
"for strict followers of the halacha there is no alternative" 

R. Mordechai Gafni 
[ "milah" <gafni@netmedia.net.il> 30 Nov 98, "Torah from theHeart", first in a series, contributions welcome ]
purports to offer a teaching in the name of R. Shlomo Carlebachbut does not seem to have conveyed words of the latter, nor toabstained fronm interweaving his own interpretation.  
At the end he notes that it was "prepared by students [not named]of Reb Shlomo Carlebach"
He does say that "one Shabbat before Reb Shlomo left this world,he returned to Lakewood New Jersey where he had been the premierstudent at the famous Yeshiva of Rav Aharon Kotler... [and said,in answer to a question at the Third Meal :  Misnagdus tells uswhat to do.  Chassidus tells us what to be.

R. Gafni adds:  "Reb Shlomo says:  The Light of '' 's ONEnesswthat his father gave over to him tasted so good, filled him somuch joy, he had to pray."
{Comment (sa):  I doubt that this is a verbatim quote.  Soundsmore like a paraphrase.}
R. Gafni then paraphrases a short section from a teaching that Ithink I've input.   From the detail, I'd guess that R. Gafni hadthat teaching at hand, but chose to paraphrase rather than quoteit. 
R. Gafni also says:  "Reb Shlomo always implored us with greatpassion, 'Yidden!  A New Light is comign down evefy day fromHeaven, a New Song.  Let's pick it up and we will change theworld!'
{Comment (sa):  Again, this sounds to me like a paraphase) 
And he says:  Reb Shlomo said:  'I need drunk Yidden.  I needYIdden who are drunk with G_d, Yidden from whom when they walkdown the street, people will says, 'Ah, I wish I were a Jew.'
{Comment (sa):  Again, I doubt this is a quote; I don't recall R.Shlomo having used the word 'drunk'.}
Adds:  Here is a brief teaching from reb Shlomo on the uniquenessof this month .  He tells us the name RamCheshvan comes from{apparently Hebrew, not transmitted}  which means to talk inwhispers.  Ram Chesvan is the only month without a holiday.  theholidays are a channel through which we can connect to a uniquetikkun (fixing) available to us at that time.  
The teaching continues; it might be based on a Wittturf transcriptof Cheshvan. 
Then there's a story of the Apter Rebbe & Moishele the Innkeeper,which I don't recognize.  
He continues with more paraphrased excerpts, 

shields@swipnet.se
begins, "let me tell you a story, a Reb Shlomo story"
It turns out to be a story about a woman of Marano background(???)with whose conversion R. Shlomo was involved.  It is not aretelling of a story told by R.Shlomo, as far as I can tell.
It's an interesting style, I think the writer is not nativeEnglish. 

Mordechai Pearlman gives a teaching in the style of R.Shlomo. 

DS forwards an article by Susan Jacobs in Jewish Week 11/28/97,about Neshama Carlebach.  

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[David Zaslow, ShalomRav@aol.com
"he knew...that Moshaich could not possibly be a man, but acouple...a Mr. and Mrs. Moshiach beause as he once said ..."I'vebeen realizing that a man cannot possibly serve all of humanity. It will take a woman to serve the other half." 
{I think that is excerpted from something input, I think on thisLIST.}   

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Mordechai Pearlman:  Shvat 26 5749, R. Shlomo composed the Krakowniggun at the home of R' Dov Friedberg, who sponsored many of R.shlomo's trips to Poland and Russia.
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David Staloff:  "I heard our rebbe say once:  "I am so proud ofour chevera, just look where they started out from, look how muchhigher they are now and how much higher they are going to betomorrow.  Myuself, on the other hand, if I didn't have such holyparents, such grandparents, I wouldn't be able to reach even the??pinky?? toenoail of where my chevre stand today."
" To be honest, '' didn't trust my neshama to grow all very much,so my beginning had to be from such a very high place."
DS comments, to MP:  "I recall your cousin [R. Shlomo] being farbeyond the distinctions of judging what was or wasn't real fornaother human being.  Challenging, yes, judging, no."
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Neila Carlebach notes:

Cut his first record in the back room of Bnei Akiva, in Manhattan,in the 1950s.
His father was Rabbi Nattali Hardwig Carlebach, chief rabbi ofBaden, near Vienna. 
Born in Berlin in 1925, grandchild of 2 rabbinic dynasties, yichusinclude the Bach, the Taas, the Maharal of Prague "and thorugh 18distinct lines to King David"
	Says Shlomo's father was "a misnogid". "He was a greatscholar, a lover of all humanity..."
	"Having left on the last ship in 1939, the Carlebach settledin Crown Heights, N.Y ..."
NC tells the story of the R. Shlomo meeting, on the subway, ayoung man who was about to marry a gentile woman, and taking himdirect to the (old) Lubavitcher Rebbe; and that the marriagedidn't occur.  
{CROSS-REFERENCE (sa): I've transcribed that story somewhere; NC'sversion seems a bit rosier than what I recall, although it alsoincludes some additional details. }
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Shalom Schwartz:  "in the words of Rebbe Shlomo ... Parash Bo,Meor Modi'in, 12 years ago [ie, 1986]:  "Why do I lift me cup upfor Kiddish?  I want a G_d that will lift me up, not put me down."

Michael Ozair:  based on research by the Carelbach family in EretzYisrael, the family is not descended from the Maharal of Prague (amistake which was printed in the book, The Carlebach tradition)but from the MaHarshal from Ostro, a contemporary of the Ramo. The entire ancestry as well as other aspects of the Carlebachfamily tree can be found in the newly pubished Carlebach FamilyTree.  [ He will cite addresses for that Tree.] 
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Michael Ozair posts the second part of NC's capsule biography ofR. Shlomo.
{CROSS-REFERENCE (sa): 	I think it's on the B'nei Jeshrun tapes --May 5, 1997, or mabye May 11, 1976 -- that much of this biographicmaterial occurs, in R. Shlomo's own words. }
{ COMMENT (sa): If one gets too close to a brilliant being, onecan be dazzled, if not blinded.} 

Notes the HLP was started in 1966.
  "To one swami who asked Shlomo after an incredible concertwhether he was trying to steal his followers, Shlomo replied, 'G_dforbid, brother, I was just borrowing some of mine back."
	{Comment:  Now that line sounds authentic.} 
  
	"I remember Shlomo's passionae outcry when he saw a religousJew hitting his child.  He told him to take off his yarmulke andtzitzit, that Gd didn't need his kind of Yiddishkeit."
{Comment:  I never saw such an incident, but I can believe it.  Itwas the one thing that I saw that could move R. Shlomo anger --that someone would hit a child.   I remember that he got veryangry in the Modi'in shul one day, when someone told himthat thathad occured.}

J.H. Chajes <chajes@inter.net.il> remarks:  'What do we know' wasShlomo's way of saying 'dan le-khaf rekhut' -- give people thebenefit of the doubt.
He adds, poignantly:  By seeing Shlomo relate to people lovinglywhom we might have thought werr worthy of derision, we learned howto come to the world with a presumption of the tzelem elokim inevery being.  'What do we know' was a way of life that Shlomoexemplified, whith real social remaifications.  "
'What do we know' is the hermaneutic principle that informedShlomo's reading of the Torah (via Ishbitz).  Shlomo would exposewhat we do know in such a way as to open us up to the possibilityof 'what do we know'.  The secret signs between Rachle and Leah -- the raised hands of Moshe -- the brothers aand Yosef -- Shlomo'steadhign guides us in these and so many other inayanim, connecdtinus to the dark/light infinity of our foremothers and fathers.

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