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Excerpts from JW-P8
Reb Shlomo Carlebach speaking:  Poland, 1989
At the home of Stash and Monica in Warsaw -- a group of youngJewish people.
{Apparently, guessing from the text,  a group practicinginnovative, not traditional, Judaism}
Transcriber not indicated.
Topics:
	The Stelisker Rebbe
	New Age Judaism ('Jewish renewal') from a traditionalviewpoint
	Modernizing the role of women in Judaism
	Grounding innovative Judaism in tradition


	R. Shlomo on Tisha b'Av (retold, M. Feigelson)

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	I want to tell you something.  When the Holy Stelisker passedaway, so his children came to the Holy Riziner.  So the HeilageRiziner says to them, 'What was the most important thing by yourfather? '   He says, 'By my father the most important thing was,to do what G-d wants him to do at that moment.'
	You know, a lot of people are so busy doing G-d's will, thatthey don't know what to to do at this moment.  At this moment,this is the deepest.
	You know, in Ishbitser Hasidus, it's so deep, it says,'Avarahm, mamash, is teaching us how to love G-d.  Yitzak isteaching us how to give our life to G-d, Ya'akov Avinue , Ya'akovnasa suko-sah, Ya'akov Avinuu the thing is:  You ask me if I'msupposed to love G-d, am I supposed to fear G-d? {JWP8n1} 

What am I supposed to do?  I don't know.  I can only tell you atthat moment.  Maybe one moment, it's time to love G-d, one time tofear G-d.  One time I'm supposed to love people, one time I'msupposed to get angry at people.  I don't know.  Don't ask me frombefore, right.
	You see what it is, the whole little bit bankruptcy of theOrthodox community is, and also Reform and Conservative, but nowI'm concerned about Orthodox, that they are so busy continuing theYiddishkeit of before the war, that they don't reven realize thatmaybe something new is coming donw from heaven. {JWP8n2}
	You know, I always say, 'I'll never be as holy as mygrandfather.  I 'll never be as holy.  But I know something myZeidi didn't know.' {JWP8n3}
because this is very, very important to know.  
	Rav Tzadik haCohen, we were learning before ... about 80years ago in Lublin ...he says that the world says, that the worldbecomes less religious ... ...{eo} But I want you to to know, Iheard from my Heilage Rebbe the Ishbitser, who heard from the YidhaKodesh, who heard form the Seer of Lublin, who heard from Elijahthe Prophet {JWp8n4}

that it's the other way around.  The outside, maybe the outside isbecoming less evidently religious.  But the inside is becoming more and more.  {JWp8n5} 
Meaning to say, that what my grandfather wanted of G-d was veryholy, but I want more.   You see what it is?  So let's say, mygrandfather could feed that part of my neshama which is on hislevel depth.  But this level depth whcih is more than mygrandfathers's, there my granfathers' Torah doesn't reach.  And sowe have to go deeper and deeper ... {eo} and deeper.  

	You know people always tell me today ... that marriages aregoing to the dogs...So many people get divorced.  That's aterrible sign, and I say it's the other way around.  You know whypeople didn't get divorced 100 years ago?  Becuase they didn't askso much of each other.  You know:  she's a woman, he's a man;she's cooking, he's making a living, what else?  Right.
	You know, I told my friends when I came to Israel the firsttime, so someone comes to me and says, " I have a girl for you, ashuidduch (a match). '  So I come back Monday and he says to me,'The girl I want you to marry speaks only Hungarian.'  So I said,'I can't marry her, because I don't speak Hungarian.'  He looks atme, and says, 'What to you have to talk to her about.?'
	You know, 100 years ago, they don't have anything to talk toeach other.  Today marriages go broke, because they want more ofeach other.  The whole world is wanting more of G-d, more of eachother.                                                
	I want to say something unbelievable, which I'm sure you areaware of.  You know the whole relationship betweemn man and womanis changed, in 1000 ways.  You know my grandmother didn't need tobe called up to the Torah.  She didn't.  Maybe women today do needto be called up to the Torah.  I don't know.  My Bobba didn't evenhave an idea that she should give a speech in the synagogue.  MyBobbba, she had a tichel (head covering) on, she was sayingTehillim.  She was sweet.  Today, maybe a woman wants to get up inthe synaguge and say something.  And you see what it is, see, Ihave this feeling about the difference betwween you and thesynagogue.  In the synagogue, all they try to preserve is what wasfrom before the War, which is very sweet, but it's not where it istoday.  It is very holy, but I realized that all the people whocome in yesterday... {eo} and I want you to know something verydeep, this is mamash true, also an Ishbitser Torah -- thatsometimes we Jews are so busy doing the old stuff, that we don'trealize that we need more.  Then come non-Jews and look at us,from outside, and say, 'Hey, something is missing.  You know,imagine, where I live, the bed is broken.  You get accustomed toit, right.  but then you have a guest that says, 'Hey, why don'tyou fix your bed.'
	So it is the outside world who looks at us Jews and say,'Hey, why don't you fix your own body and get yur act together.' I don't mean they say it in words, but they expect something fromus. {JWp8n6}

The need to ground innovative Judaism in traditional Judaism

And I'm just so proud of all of you.  And I just want to bless allof you that G-d should give you the privilege to taste the depthsof Yiddishkeit unless you know the depths of yesterday also.  Thedepths of today without the depths of yesterday is like ... {eo}doensn't go, right?  Becuase G-d created the world in such a waythat one is on top of the other.  You know, you cannot build the27th floor unless you have the 26th floor.  You don't just buildthe 27th floor.  So I don't know how much you have available foryourself of the 26 floors but this is where I would like so muchall of us would like to come in and send you more information....{eo}

On Shabbos

	... The world {ie, popular opinion, hoi polloi} thinks thatShabbos is a day of rest.  It's not a day of rest.  Shabbos, theZohar Kodesh says, Shabbos is Yoma d'Nishmaso.  {`The day of yoursoul?'} My neshama (my soul) is working, not my hands.  TheIshbitser says the deepest Torah.  When I work with my hands, Ireceive light from outside, because basically my hands are theoutside of me, right?  So I work with my hands and also the lightthat I receive from heaven, is only the oustside of my life.  Buton Shabbos, I'm not working with my hands, but I'm working with myheart and with my soul.  So the light which comes down fromheaven, is inside light of inside light ...

 ... When you meet somebody that you like a little bit, youreceive light on the outside of your soul, right?  Ok, imaginethat you are hungry, very tired, and I'm just at the end, somebodywalks in who I love the most, I'm not hungry, I'm not tiredbecause suddenly I receive light from the highest place.  Youknow, during the week, I eat because I'm n hungry.  On Shabbos wedon't eat because we are hungry, because basically on Shabbos I'mnot hungry. {JWP8n7} 

Because Shabbos, my heart is so full of light, I don't really needany food.  On Shabbos, my heart is so full of light, I don'treally need any food.  On Shabbos I'm just eating because I amcelebrating.  Reb Nachman says during the week you eat out of tworeasons:  or because you are hungry from the past...or becuase youeat because you need strrength for later.  {JWP8n8} On Shabbos,you eat because of the moment, right now it's Shabbos. {JWP8n9}  

 ... The three meals of Shabbos:  the first meal is for our FatherAbraham.  Abrraham left the pagan world, he went to Israel. Thesame way, every Jew, Friday, I leave the whole world and I go toShabbos.  OK, but you see on Friday, I'm still leaving the world. There is a world and I'm leaving the world.  I'm going intoShabbos.  For Yitzhak there was no pagan world.  He grew up byAvraham.  He didn't have to leave.  Anything.  Yitzhak just grewup in the house of Avraham.  So Shabbos morning is the meal ofYitzhak.  Completely holy from all four sides.
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{'from all four sides' -- I don't know what that phrasereferences.}
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You're just Shabbosdik.  You are like Itzhak lying on the altarbefore G-d, gevaldt, right?  Ya'akov had to leave the Holy Lanad. Then he came back.  So the third meal of Shabbos is like Ya'akovAvninu leaving the Holy Land and praying, 'Please G-d, let me comeback next Shabbos.'  So every person and their own neshama,sometimes depends on which meal the need the most.  Some peopleneed the most Friday night, because they have so much troubleleaving the world behind.  Maybe some people, whenever they leave,they never come back, so they need Ya'akov Avinu.  And some peoplecannot imagine themselves living beyond the world, like Yitzhak.{JWP8n10}
 
And then the fourth meal of King Daivd is Sasturady night.  KingSavid is, that as much as it looks like Shabbos is over, butinside, inside it's still Shabbos. {JWP8n11}

{A typical Shlomo parable:}  Ok, I have a date with a girl I lovethe most, and then 6 O'clock, you say she's leaving .. {eo} she'sgoing her way, I'm going my way.  So officially we are not talkingto each other, right.  But it is not ture.  Because inside, we arestill talking to each other.  
	See, here comes King David, and he says to us, Shabbos didn'tgo, because inside, it's still Shabbos.
	... Rebbe Elimelek of Lizensk left word in his last {ethical}will, that any woman who eats the meal of King David, will have aneasy birth. {JWP8n12}
Because Chava brought down death to the world, and also heaveychildbirth.  But if I never let Shabbos go, {JWPn13}
that means nothing is dying for me, right now.  Keeping everythingalive, inside.  So then childbirth also.  Because the pain of themother is only the pain of the baby.  Because the baby says, "Idon't want to come down to this world and leave heaven behind me.' But if the mother keeps Shabbos inside, all week long, so she saysto the baby 'Don't worry.  You are taking heaven with you.'  Sothe baby says, 'Ok, you know, no problem.'

Jewish Post-Holocaust relationship to non-Jews

	... The relationship between Jews and non-Jews has changedcompletely.  Until the second World War, there was no bridgebetween us. {JWP8n14}
The 6 million opened gates for all of us for the world. ...{JWP8n15} 
 ... {They said} we can't live like this anymore.  And somethingunbelievable is happening in the world.  And we have the greatprivilege of making the whole world our friends.  And again, theOrthodox community, they contine the Yiddishketi og yesterday, sofor them it's not important to be friends.  They are just friendson a business lvel, but not on a soul level.  And just we have tomake the gates wider.  And especially in Poland, where it is soobvvious that the gates are closed between us {JWP8n16}
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{R. Shlomo says, 'the sons of Haman are learning in Yeshiva'{talk at Yakar, recalled from memory, presumably 1993}}

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So the most important thing -- I want you to know one more thing. Every country, G-d is sending down light into the world.  And very few people pick this light up..  So I have a feeling that youmight be the only ones in all of Poland who are picking up all thelight.  So I bless you that it lifts you up.

	Before Meshiach is comming ... {eo} A king when he has a bigarmy, he doesn't take people that are cripples, right?  When hehas no army, he takes all the cripples, also.  Today, us shleppershere, we're G-d's army, you know. ...
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{Reb Nachman says:  'Who you callin' lame, turkey?'
 I mean the red haired guy on Rehov Jaffo they call etc.}

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	Mimi (Feigelson):  ... when I came to Poland, I came to lookfor the past, but what I've discovered is a beautiful future ...people that have incredible strength.  To fight for things that Iwake up with every morinng, especially because I live inJerusalem.  And I try to teach myself never to take that forgranted.  Reb Shlomo was teaching in the shul yesterday, that thereason that we can live every year through Tisha b'Av, through thedestruction of the Temple, is because the Shabbos before Tishab'Av, HE shows us the completion of the Temple.  And he (R.Shlomo) {ha}s also taught us in the past that the Temple neverburnt.  It was never destroyed.  It's there.  We just have tolearn to see it. {JWP8n17}
And in that way I feel that here, in Poland, also the Templewasn't burnt.  And we just have to reveal it again....
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