Formerly Osnr: hello? Splash! (au): hi Formerly Osnr: are you good at drawing? Splash! (au): you mean computer drawing? Formerly Osnr: yeah Formerly Osnr: icons Splash! (au): http://www.splashtech.co.uk/ http://www.splashtech.co.uk/v8/ http://blog.splashtech.co.uk/ pretty much all the graphics are mine Splash! (au): you tell me :P Formerly Osnr: ok Formerly Osnr: hmm... Formerly Osnr: looks good Formerly Osnr: okay, can you make icons for CetusLink? Splash! (au): possibly Splash! (au): can you state the requirements, and/or email me details Formerly Osnr: http://www.geocities.com/atesyu2002/scr0.gif Formerly Osnr: the top icons in 16.16, and a main icon in 32x32 Formerly Osnr: once more features are added, the requirements may grow Formerly Osnr: currently: Formerly Osnr: Mail, People, Today, News, Web, Save, and Open Splash! (au): whats the last one? Formerly Osnr: Favorites Formerly Osnr: and Open should be Keyword Splash! (au): how do you mean? Formerly Osnr: the bulleted icon is Keyword Formerly Osnr: there is no "Open" Splash! (au): oh okay Splash! (au): so, looking at that screenshot Splash! (au): left to right Formerly Osnr: Mail, People COnnection, Today, news, Web, Keyword, Save, and Favorites/Bookmarks Splash! (au): okay# Formerly Osnr: as I said, it may grow Splash! (au): ok Formerly Osnr: and a main icon for "CetusLink" too Splash! (au): what does that need to be Formerly Osnr: anything signifying networking, global links, CetusLink initials, etc Splash! (au): ok Formerly Osnr: and Send IM and Sow Current Downloads icons Splash! (au): what do you mean by "Sow Current Download" Splash! (au): s Formerly Osnr: "My Downloads" Splash! (au): ok Formerly Osnr: and the size is now 32x32 (don't blame me, blame Atesh) Splash! (au): 32x32 is large for a toolbar icon Splash! (au): just to put that into context, microsoft word buttons have 16x16 icons, and IE (using large) is 24x24 Formerly Osnr: we will take middle ground and use 24x24 then Splash! (au): yes, I think thats is best Splash! (au): so you need the aforementioned icons in 24x24 size Splash! (au): what format? Formerly Osnr: .ico Splash! (au): ok Splash! (au): and the main appication icon in ico format with 48x48, 32x32 and 16x16 inside it I assume? Formerly Osnr: yes Splash! (au): ok Splash! (au): any kinda timescale Splash! (au): sorry to ask, but I am somewhat busy, so I need to priotize things Formerly Osnr: no timelimit Formerly Osnr: and if possible, 16x16 toolbar also Splash! (au): ok Formerly Osnr: we are just fixing up the code Formerly Osnr: so feel free to take your time... Splash! (au): sharp edges or antialiased edges for the toolbar icons? Formerly Osnr: sharp Splash! (au): ok Formerly Osnr: if it doesn't look bad in older Oss, antialiased Formerly Osnr: depends on support... Splash! (au): well you are the programmer Formerly Osnr: ok Formerly Osnr: so it's basically antialiased Formerly Osnr: since all the data is in the image... Splash! (au): ok Formerly Osnr: when, including college work, can it be ready? Splash! (au): I can't even begin to guess.... :| Formerly Osnr: ok Formerly Osnr: fine with me :D Splash! (au): hehe you know how it is Formerly Osnr: until we have lots of content editors, it's not like it matters... Splash! (au): content editor?S Splash! (au): editors* ? Formerly Osnr: it is an online service... Splash! (au): explain to me how it works Formerly Osnr: keyword system runs on HTML Formerly Osnr: it uses INI files that behave like HTML, actually Formerly Osnr: we are making a content editor to write these files Formerly Osnr: so we are more than occupied Splash! (au): just wondering what it involves being a content editor Formerly Osnr: well, you have to write up articles and edit news for our service... Splash! (au): on your chosen subject? Formerly Osnr: yes Splash! (au): hmmmm Splash! (au): where do these files get held? Splash! (au): say I wrote one of these HTML-eque things... what woudl I then do with it Formerly Osnr: on servers that the CetusLink software connects to Formerly Osnr: well, the content editor should upload the content and then add it to a list of new items Formerly Osnr: see, the CTL software checks for new articles every startup, from a list of new items Splash! (au): which comes from the server(s) Splash! (au): ? Formerly Osnr: yeah Splash! (au): will these files have any directives? Formerly Osnr: but Atesh's computer is serving as a redirect right now to our constantly changing server... Formerly Osnr: the files work like an HTML-esque language Formerly Osnr: links, pictures, formatting Splash! (au): do you think you could add some extra features? Formerly Osnr: like what? Splash! (au): since you are so early in development, it seems like a perfect time to Formerly Osnr: yeah Splash! (au): something like php's include Formerly Osnr: at this point, the keyword engine is not really depended on Formerly Osnr: include? yes, good idea Splash! (au): so it would be possible to write a page which barely has any content Splash! (au): but has an include Splash! (au): which would include a file served from my website Formerly Osnr: ok Formerly Osnr: in html? Splash! (au): would that be feasible? Formerly Osnr: not as much Formerly Osnr: an INI file can be integrated easier Splash! (au): I was thinking either HTML or your proprietry language Splash! (au): becuase you see.... Formerly Osnr: it's not really propietary Formerly Osnr: it's based on an INI langauge Splash! (au): I can write a syste mfor my website which will serve out articles from a databse Formerly Osnr: ok Splash! (au): there is nothing stopping me writing it to serve them in both formats Splash! (au): as long as you can include content from a URL Formerly Osnr: it should be possible Splash! (au): can you paste in a blank template file in here so I can see the structure Formerly Osnr: all right Formerly Osnr: www.geocities.com/atesyu2002/beta/beta.htm Formerly Osnr: atesh is working on RichTextBoxes, so formatting will work better Splash! (au): this looks like a form definiteion file Formerly Osnr: yes Formerly Osnr: but with RTB support, it will simplify Formerly Osnr: the other things are for channel menus (AOL's menus are messy) Splash! (au): hehe Splash! (au): do you think you would be able to add a few higher-level things Splash! (au): to abstract complex things Formerly Osnr: what do you mean exactly? Splash! (au): well instead of using form definition things Splash! (au): write the management of the items yourself Splash! (au): therefore giving you unlimited scope to custoimize the files and language used within to your liking Splash! (au): and implement more Formerly Osnr: a very simple but powerful concept Splash! (au): yes Formerly Osnr: but we're already working with this kind of thing, as events are already working as properties Splash! (au): well I was just thinking Splash! (au): the include might be slightly difficult Splash! (au): becuase it is not a property Formerly Osnr: the include shouldn't be too hard... Splash! (au): its more a command Formerly Osnr: it could be the first item Formerly Osnr: include=something Formerly Osnr: and then, CTL would combine the files in memory Splash! (au): include=http://www.splashtech.co.uk/article.php?id=01&format=cetusini Splash! (au): would that be able to be done? Splash! (au): so it will use that url to get the file Splash! (au): and then that file contains this kind of thing: Splash! (au): [Keyword] Caption=PowerOnline Beta Center width=7620 height=5655 [Text0] Caption=This is a testing! Top=2070 Left=510 Height=2165 width=4425 visible=1 Splash! (au): etc etc Formerly Osnr: hm... Splash! (au): so the file which is put onto your list is just the include Formerly Osnr: so you mean an include/redirect? Splash! (au): yes Formerly Osnr: it should work Splash! (au): to get it onto your listings Formerly Osnr: we've done a server redirect Splash! (au): but keep the my content in my control Formerly Osnr: a content one shouldn't be too hard Splash! (au): you see what I mean? Formerly Osnr: your content would be copied "on the fly" to the PC and viewed Splash! (au): yes Formerly Osnr: it should be possible Formerly Osnr: we'll just need to branch parsing out Splash! (au): takes some of the load off your servers too, as all you need to do is serve a tiny file with an include line in it Formerly Osnr: ok Splash! (au): and keyword section I suppose Formerly Osnr: not so hard... Splash! (au): much more powerful in the long run Formerly Osnr: it involves a simple clause of scanning for the Redirect and then restarting witht the new file Splash! (au): yeah Splash! (au): you can download text from a url fine? Splash! (au): any url Formerly Osnr: yes Splash! (au): ah Splash! (au): got a better idea Splash! (au): do all what we have said Splash! (au): but like this Splash! (au): [include] url=http://www.splashtech.co.uk/article.php?id=56&format=cetusini backupurl=http://www.splashtech.co.uk/error.php?type=cetusini contact=splash@splashtech.net Splash! (au): url being the first thing, and having the same effect as we said Formerly Osnr: okay Splash! (au): but if it cant do it, it attempts the backupurl Formerly Osnr: so an alternate url, and a contact instead of the normal one Formerly Osnr: Atesh can do that Splash! (au): yeah Formerly Osnr: ateshyurdakul: it already does tat: [keyword] onload=load www.splastec.co.uk Splash! (au): ? Formerly Osnr: forget that Formerly Osnr: that's the Web function... Formerly Osnr: it's indeed possible and plausible Splash! (au): cool Formerly Osnr: it should be doable in a few hours or days :) Splash! (au): and if the backup is also unavaible (or if none was specified) you could just show a built-in error saying about external content not found Formerly Osnr: ok Formerly Osnr: basically another line Formerly Osnr: it'll be done Splash! (au): cool :) Splash! (au): sounds a decent system Formerly Osnr: ateshyurdakul: ok ateshyurdakul: it's really easy Formerly Osnr: I'll give Atesh a transcript of this Splash! (au): if you implement that thing, I will likely be a content writer and link it in with my site Splash! (au): :D Formerly Osnr: and you a transcript of my other conversation with atesh Splash! (au): okay Formerly Osnr: good Formerly Osnr: that'll work out :D Splash! (au): yep Splash! (au): gets me more site traffic, and you more quality content :D Formerly Osnr: :)