ateshyurdakul: hi Rsnous: hi Rsnous: have you read the stuff? ateshyurdakul: yes Rsnous: so? ateshyurdakul: ok.. ateshyurdakul: but i don't tink te interface is tat great.. Rsnous: of what? ateshyurdakul: sorry, i'm connecting from anoter computer and tis computer h button is broken :-) Rsnous: of what program? ateshyurdakul: cetuslink Rsnous: yeah ateshyurdakul: we need to work on tat Rsnous: aafuss commented on that Rsnous: I personally think it's the outer UI (MDI interface) that needs work Rsnous: it needs to have, say, a coolbar... ateshyurdakul: can you contact splas? Rsnous: yes ateshyurdakul: maybe e can draw some toolbar icons for us.. ateshyurdakul: te icons i'm using now looks like crap.. Rsnous: http://www.splashtech.co.uk/ Rsnous: you think it looks good? Rsnous: hello? ateshyurdakul: ok.. i was just looking at te web page Rsnous: and? ateshyurdakul: well.. te icons at top looks good.. ateshyurdakul: http://blog.splashtech.co.uk/ look at te blog logo.. it looks good :-) Rsnous: ok Rsnous: we'll use his icons Rsnous: 16.16 toolbar icons and a 32x32 main one? ateshyurdakul: yes.. ateshyurdakul: if you didn't liked is icons, ten we can ask somebody else.. Rsnous: the world is a what? Rsnous: what's the icon with bullets for? ateshyurdakul: wat? Rsnous: the icon you have up there with bullets right now ateshyurdakul: it is te keyword button.. ateshyurdakul: you mean te icon on te left of te floppy icon, rigt? Rsnous: yeah ateshyurdakul: "open keyword" Rsnous: all right Rsnous: okay, Splash will do it ateshyurdakul: ok. tanks. but i also need "send instant message" and "sow current downloads" icons Rsnous: giving him those requirement ateshyurdakul: te toolbar icons will be 16x16, rigt? Rsnous: yeah Rsnous: Splash! (au): what do you mean by "Sow Current Download" Splash! (au): s ateshyurdakul: i tink we sould make it 32x32. Rsnous: ok ateshyurdakul: "my downloads" Rsnous: but 32x32 takes up much space... ateshyurdakul: te current icons are 32x32.. Rsnous: we could put in a search toolbar or something to enhance experience ateshyurdakul: tey look good.. Rsnous: decision on size? ateshyurdakul: te "go to" bar works just like te aol's bar. if you enter a keyword, it will open a keyword. if you enter an internet adress, it will open te url and if you enter someting to searc like "wat is cetuslink" ten it will searc it on google ateshyurdakul: 32x32 Rsnous: ok Rsnous: and besides, we can always include a small firefox-like search bar at the side ateshyurdakul: ok Rsnous: Splash! (au): 32x32 is large for a toolbar icon Splash! (au): just to put that into context, microsoft word buttons have 16x16 icons, and IE (using large) is 24x24 Rsnous: perhaps 24x24? ateshyurdakul: ok.. Rsnous: they should be able to shrink well too... ateshyurdakul: ok.. Rsnous: we'r eprobably eventually going to include a small icon feature ateshyurdakul: 24x24 and 16x16 Rsnous: yeah Rsnous: actually, bigger sizes usually don't need a smaller definition Rsnous: big shrinks well... ateshyurdakul: i don't know.. it may look bad if you make it smaller using vb. Rsnous: yeah, but we're not Rsnous: the windows api is working with the toolbar when the app runs to do this ateshyurdakul: just ask splas if te can make big and small versions. Rsnous: no timescale, right? ateshyurdakul: yea Rsnous: sharp or antialiased? ateshyurdakul: antialiased looks bad in 2000 or 98 ateshyurdakul: sarp, i guess.. and if it is not going to look bad in older versions, antialiased. Rsnous: and less-nice desktop environments in Linux... Rsnous: ok Rsnous: I would suppose it would Rsnous: since the image is self-contained, unlike a font... ateshyurdakul: yea.. ateshyurdakul: so, do you know wen it can be ready? ateshyurdakul: ello? Rsnous: no Rsnous: besides, ti doesn't matter Rsnous: we have to find content writers and ifx the code ateshyurdakul: rigt.. ateshyurdakul: can you look for content writers? Rsnous: yesh Rsnous: yeah Rsnous: I hate mispelling yeah ateshyurdakul: me too but wit tis keyboard it is impossible not to mispell :-) Rsnous: brb Rsnous: oh yes ateshyurdakul: wat? Rsnous: Splash wishes for you to add an include directive ateshyurdakul: wat? Rsnous: to include INI files from other servers ateshyurdakul: ok ateshyurdakul: btw, we can create a place for splas, too at keyword splas ateshyurdakul: rigt? ateshyurdakul: ello? Rsnous: ok Rsnous: so you will have RichText support soon? Rsnous: for articles? ateshyurdakul: yes. Rsnous: Splash! (au): well instead of using form definition things Splash! (au): write the management of the items yourself ateshyurdakul: "write te management of te items yourself"? ateshyurdakul: wat does e mean? my brain stopped working :-P ateshyurdakul: so.... Rsnous: just redirect Rsnous: Splash really wants you to have a redirect feature Rsnous: it involves a simple clause of scanning for the Redirect and then restarting witht the new file ateshyurdakul: redirect to wat? Rsnous: another server ateshyurdakul: o.. te ting we talked before.. Rsnous: extremely powerful in the longrun... ateshyurdakul: rigt? Rsnous: yeah Rsnous: [include] url=http://www.splashtech.co.uk/article.php?id=56&format=cetusini backupurl=http://www.splashtech.co.uk/error.php?type=cetusini contact=splash@splashtech.net ateshyurdakul: i can do tat.. Rsnous: ok Rsnous: and this is just a redirect ateshyurdakul: it already does tat: [keyword] onload=load www.splastec.co.uk Rsnous: but more power ateshyurdakul: so, it will redirect client to anoter keyword file in anoter server, rigt? Rsnous: and redirect to your INI langage Rsnous: yeah ateshyurdakul: ok Rsnous: you can put that on your wishlist now Rsnous: not too hard Rsnous: Splash! (au): and if the backup is also unavaible (or if none was specified) you could just show a built-in error saying about external content not found ateshyurdakul: ok ateshyurdakul: it's really easy Rsnous: Splash! (au): if you implement that thing, I will likely be a content writer and link it in with my site Splash! (au): :D ateshyurdakul: ok.. ateshyurdakul: good Rsnous: I'll give you a transcript of SPlash's chat ateshyurdakul: ok Rsnous: email? ateshyurdakul: geocities Rsnous: ok ateshyurdakul: did e saw te screensots? Rsnous: yeah Rsnous: http://www.geocities.com/rsnous/splashchat.txt Rsnous: Splash! (au): you know the keywords section at the top? Splash! (au): you going to include an author tag? Formerly Osnr: an author tag Formerly Osnr: it will be included Splash! (au): :) Formerly Osnr: and you'll have a chance to use a label if not soon enough Splash! (au): cool Rsnous: ok? ateshyurdakul: ok