Robert Inhuman interview with Lara of Big Nurse and Double Trouble (Nashville TN) 04/14/06

 

Lara: how was Realicide born?

 

Robert: In my late teens I wanted to get involved with a punk band that wasn’t necessarily a “punk rock” band in its mission. I wanted punk to revert back to the experimental nature I saw the work in the 70’s as having, stuff like Suicide, Screamers, Throbbing Gristle, Nervous Gender. I wanted that attitude with contemporary materials and language. It’s been great the past few years to learn what languages are available for new music this decade and also to find so many other artists with a similar drive all around the world.

 

you always have so many projects, bands, shows going on... how did you get so motivated?

 

I’ve always had a fairly obsessive tendency to catalogue and archive my experiences. One thing being a performer offers is a string of easily sortable experiences date by date that can act as bookmarks or page numbers for a life. I don’t know how necessary this is but it is part of the appeal for me anyway.

 

Aside from that I think upon becoming aware of my own mortality I felt a terrible obligation to stay active whenever I can stomach it. I want to be very active at all times and have something to show for myself down the line. The point I’m at now however is the matter of “working smarter not harder” and begin to more-so make the things I choose to be involved in demand a certain potency, even if my number of activities doesn’t continue to multiply I want the things I choose to focus on count for a lot more. When it comes down to it I want to construct a sense of legitimate worth for myself and inactivity doesn’t usually appear to offer much for that. Also, a line I saw written on a friend’s desk once that said “action is the antidote to despair” which really stuck with me, as I manage to carry a great deal of… umm, despair… down most avenues of my life.

 

you have a really unique vocal style. very inhuman. is this something you've developed over time or did it just come out one day?

 

My voice has generally gone through the following evolution as far as I’ve noticed: yelling, then eventually screaming (more desperate and strengthened yelling), then exaggerated screaming (like grindcore, the highs and lows become more drastic, although I’ve never been an inhaler or much for low growling), then choking and gagging…

 

The gagging techniques I began regularly incorporating in 2005 were based on an experience I had May 2004 alone in my apartment with MD 20/20 and a talkboy taperecorder. I was basically trying to scratch up my throat by screaming but choking at the same time, like trying to scream while gagging on the Mad Dog which I didn’t enjoy drinking (like any alcoholic drink really). It really tore up my throat and I felt it was an appropriate physical consequence to the desperate and anxiety-drenched night I’d had. Later I’d experiment at shows by forcing myself to heave loudly and sometimes cough up bile. I felt it to be an obvious accessory to the aggressive vocal styles I’d been influenced by and, since I wasn’t very good at menacing low-end and inhaled techniques, I thought I could try the choking and gagging as a supplement to the screaming elements. Very aggressive and much less lyrical, more raw.

 

After that later 2005 I decided I’d like to experiment with other kinds of extreme vocal performance. Pornography came to mind, specifically the aggressive female orgasm which has been one of my favorite forms of acapella since my pre-teens. I’d had some experience imitating these sounds in the past and thought it was a very reasonable and correct element to inject into my public performances. I tried adding the orgasm simulations to certain parts of the set with Hentai Lacerator for instance. But the sounds were supposed to appear strictly female. I thought the gagging and hxc screaming was male enough, besides I have never been a fan of male orgasm sounds.

 

Now I am interested in reverting to more lyric-based and decipherable styles. Speaking, singing, and yelling. I want to focus on presenting the words with more orthodox coherency for the time being.

 

do you worry a lot?

 

In many ways yes and I think I always have. I worry about truth and the balance of when it is right to entertain delusions almost all of the time. I am always concerned that I am being dishonest with myself or that I am not seeing the world, myself, and my experiences clearly or truthfully. On the other hand I guess I don’t worry a great deal about other things like recreation, money to spend on stuff, or scoring a job to get settled into…

 

where are the cool places to hang out in cincinnati?

 

I’m not really sure, I might be one of the worst people to ask these days. I mainly just go to Swill Mansion (Swill, Colin, Nick, Nina) where they are always working on art and music. I used to go to the WAIF radio station every week. There are still a few good chilled spots for graffiti bombs as far as I know. Otherwise I only go out to do shows or to make free xeroxes.

 

how do you feel about the academic world?

 

If you mean the institutional education world then my answer is “very malicious and resentfully” and if you mean the honing of skills and trades in an almost scientific manner I guess my answer would be “cautious and guarded.” I watch out to be aware of and usually opposed to the avocation of parlour tricks and one-liner scam crash-course hacks who will use their roles as our elders or book-smart-memorizers to imply that my respect is automatically theirs’. You think you can teach me something? Prove it and without talking down to me.

 

do you have, like, a real job?

 

I fold clothes at night at the mall. The place is straight evil and it’s one of the weakest elements in my life. I can assure you at least I never work very hard and basically don’t ever have to show up if I have better things to do. It’s a joke job like every job I’ve had. I want to find alternative sources of income to replace the need for jobs like this in my near future.

 

do you have any pets?

 

The dog I grew up with is still at my mom’s house and she turned 17 this month. I don’t know if I’ll ever get a pet myself because I have trouble with the direct responsibility over a life, also human authority over animal life although I know it’s going to happen all the time regardless of this single decision. I live with a girl who has a dog and sometimes other animals though. If it was her way we would have like 10 dogs or cats each and they’d all be running in a circle around us in one room.

 

what are your favorite foods?

 

I don’t enjoy eating very much but I like pizza most of the time, and candy until I eat a lot and it makes a sore in my mouth. I drink a lot of soda. My diet is very very bad.

 

how is your foetus cover project coming along?

 

Very very slowly. A handful of people have expressed interest the past year but no tracks have been completed or turned in yet. Understandably so, I mean it is Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel after all. I have also been trying to get in touch with Thirlwell himself for approval and feedback, but no luck yet.

 

you are a self-described misanthrope who wants to "disassociate from humanity's values". what values do you mean specifically? do you believe that these values are inherent to human beings (i.e. genetic), or are they tied to culture (and therefore subject to willful change)?

 

I am generally referring to a self-serving and completely irresponsible behavior consistent throughout the species. The values like “manifest destiny” or any attitude humanity has of “if we can do it we should” cos that’s the lack of discipline that has got our planet into the mess it’s in. The popular attitude of superiority over all other life, very pompous. I feel like we might be the most powerful species and most able to alter our surroundings but superiority to me would entail the wisdom to use this power with responsibility and never in ways to ruin the place for everyone, human and all others.

 

The question of chicken or egg, nature or nurture, is tough as usual. I think yeah we might actually be programmed to destroy and wreck, but I believe in the power to change and edit your own life and behaviors, through a self-repression that will yield a certain level of wisdom and refuse to contribute to the problems, the necessary self-control that could allow mercy on a guilty species, allow us to live here without being complete assholes all the time… this is a very hard self-control to have and remains largely my ideal and not reality, but I look forward to getting stronger to move towards being the person I feel I ought to be. 

 

I don’t believe in solutions, human solutions I mean. I believe in dropping out and refusing to locomote the earth’s problems, but I know that the solutions to these problems will need to come from an authority completely inhuman, non-human I mean, some reasoning that surpasses our capacity of reasoning.

 

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