General Promises Families DoD Will Continue Searching for MIAs
To: DEFENSE-PRESS-SERVICE-L@DTIC.MIL By Rudi Williams
American Forces Press Service
ARLINGTON, Va., June 17, 2005 - A top Army general this week thanked
more than 270 family members of servicemen still missing in Southeast
Asia for their service and sacrifice during the Defense Department's 2005
annual government briefings for Vietnam War-era families.
"You're the ones who woke the nation to the plight of our POWs and MIAs
in Vietnam," Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, assistant to the chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the families.
Odierno was the keynote speaker during opening ceremonies for the
three-day series of government briefings that ends here today. The briefings
give families of missing servicemen an opportunity to meet with
numerous civilian and military government representatives whose expertise
includes foreign government negotiation, policy, remains recovery and
identification, DNA science, archival research, and intelligence analysis.
He said family members should be proud of their service and their
contributions to preserving the freedoms Americans enjoy and for raising the
consciousness of the nation and the world on prisoner-of-war and
missing-in-action issues.
"I hope that those loved ones and comrades in arms who are still
missing might one day be returned home," said Odierno.
Odierno said not everyone understands what "the sharing of sacrifice"
means like military people do. But, he noted, events that occurred over
the last few years have created a new generation of servicemembers who
understand sacrifice and what sacrifices were made by past generations,
whether it be in Vietnam, Korea or World War II.
"If any of you have loved ones who gave their last full measure of
devotion to duty, I thank you personally for their sacrifice and for your
sacrifice," the general told the families.
When a servicemember becomes a POW or is missing, "their family endures
the harshest cruelty that can be -- the pain of the unknown," he said.
"I believe today we receive undying support from all people in the
United States. I believe we get this support because of the regrets of the
treatment of Vietnam veterans and their families and that we've learned
a lesson over time.
"It's with the immediate family and the larger military family that
these meetings carry such importance," Odierno said. "We know that it was
your generation that truly opened the eyes to the plight of POWs."
He said Vietnam War-era families helped improve the treatment of POWs,
swaying U.S. and world opinion and aiding in the release of 600 POWs
during Operation Homecoming in 1973.
"A lot of your efforts and efforts of people before you made a
difference," the general noted. "You bore witness to the atrocities and showed
the world that our enemy was treating members of the entire American
family, both military and civilian POWs, inhumanly.
"We'll always bear witness to our loved ones and remember their service
and sacrifice," he continued. "We'll renew our determination that we
will never forget that. Our commitment to account for those still missing
is rooted in values like freedom, honor, duty, service to country,
support for those in need and in the personal lives of those who served
together in combat."
He said this includes one of the key warrior's ethos -- "never leave a
comrade behind."
"In your case -- never forget the plight of those you love," Odierno
said. "Just like taking care of family, America's fighting men and women
take care of each other. This promise is woven into the great fabric of
our being as soldiers, Marines, airmen, sailors and Coast Guardsmen, as
well those civilians who also sacrificed.
"That legacy of honor has been proven time and again in our country's
history," he said. "In Iraq today, men and women would risk their lives
to retrieve a fallen comrade. On a national level, we're committed to
the same ideal. We're devoted to obtain the fullest possible accounting
for all Americans still missing."
The general assured the families that the government is exploring every
possible avenue and every means of influence to achieve a full possible
accounting for all fallen and missing heroes.
"This is a quest that we must pursue relentlessly wherever it takes us
for as long as it takes us until all are accounted for," Odierno said.
"The most senior levels of our government are dedicated to this quest."
He pointed out that the Defense Department has joint field activities
in Vietnam and the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command at Hickam Air Force
Base, Hawaii, that are dedicated to accounting for America's missing.
"And in particular, to bring home every possible hero of the more than
1, 830 Americans missing from the Vietnam War," he said.
The nation found itself engaged in another war on Sept. 11 that wasn't
of America's choosing, Odierno said. "Thousands of Americans were
killed on that fateful day," he noted. "They came from all across America,
and they all left families behind. Across the street at the Pentagon, we
were lucky. We were able to identify the remains of everyone who died.
But in New York, over 1,100 individuals have not been accounted for.
"If the terrorists thought that inflicting this kind of pain would
cause us to cower, I think they know now that they were wrong," Odierno
said. "We will continue to take the fight to them. We will not allow them
to take away what's most important to us -- our freedom. Failure is
simply not an option. We will not sacrifice the future of our children. We
cannot allow these extremists to dictate our future and our children's
future."
A photo of the three-star general and his son, Army Capt. Anthony K.
Odierno, who lost his left arm in a battle in Iraq, graces the cover of
the June 20 edition of Newsweek magazine. The magazine features a story
called, "The Family Business," about the military's special father-son
bond.
Odierno was commander of the 4th Infantry Division (Mechanized), from
Fort Hood, Texas, during that unit's deployment to Iraq from March 2003
to April 2004. He said 4th Infantry Division soldiers formed a bond of
brotherhood that will last forever with those who had sacrificed before
them.
"The events of Sept. 11 and our ongoing combat operations against
extremists serve as a reminder that service and sacrifice are continuous
parts of our lives," he said.
Biography:
Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno
[http://www.dtic.mil/jcs/core/odierno_bio.html]
Related Sites:
Defense POW/Missing Personnel Office [http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/]
2005 POW/MIA Recognition Day
[http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/powday/index.htm]
Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command [http://www.jpac.pacom.mil/]
Related Articles:
2005 POW/MIA Recognition Day Poster Unveiled
[http://www.dod.mil/news/Jun2005/20050616_1750.html]
Vietnam Vets Impressed by Scope of POW/MIA Efforts [Vietnam
http://www.dod.mil/news/Jun2005/20050616_1740.html]
Vietnam War Disc Jockey Cronauer Praises Families of MIAs
[http://www.dod.mil/news/Jun2005/20050615_1737.html]
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WWII Missing in Action Soldiers Identified
To: DODNEWS-L@DTIC.MIL
NEWS RELEASE from the United States
Department of Defense
No. 617-05
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Jun 17, 2005
Media Contact: (703)697-5131
Public/Industry Contact: (703)428-0711
WWII Missing in Action Soldiers Identified
The Department of Defense POW/Missing Personnel Office (DPMO) announced
today that
the remains of two Army soldiers missing in action from World War II
have been
identified and returned to their families for burial.
They are Sgt. John T. Puckett, Wichita, Kan., and Pvt.
Earnest E.
Brown, Bristol, Va. Puckett will be buried tomorrow at the Ardennes
American
Cemetery, Neupre, Belgium. Brown was buried last week near Bristol,
Va.
On Jan. 15, 1945, during the Battle of the Bulge, Puckett
and Brown
were searching for German soldiers in a wooded area near Elsenborn,
Belgium. They
were ambushed and came under intense enemy machine gun and mortar fire.
Eyewitnesses indicated they were killed, but their bodies could not be
recovered
due to enemy activity.
Following the war, remains of American soldiers were
recovered and
identified, but not those of Puckett and Brown. Then in 1992, two
Belgian
nationals located and excavated an abandoned fighting position in the
forest east
of Elsenborn. They recovered remains and other evidence and turned
them over to
U.S. authorities in Europe.
Scientists of the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command and the
Armed Forces
DNA Identification Laboratory used mitochondrial DNA as one of the
forensic tools
to identify the remains as those of Puckett and Brown.
Of the 88,000 Americans missing in action from all
conflicts, 78,000
are from World War II.
For additional information on the Defense Department's
mission to
account for missing Americans, visit the DPMO Web site at
http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/
or call (703) 699-1169 .
[Web Version:
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NEWS RELEASE from the United States Department of Defense
No. 499-05
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 20, 2005
Media Contact: (703)697-5131
Public/Industry Contact: (703)428-0711
Vietnam War Missing in Action Serviceman Identified
The Department of Defense POW/Missing Personnel Office
(DPMO) announced
today that the remains of a U.S. serviceman, missing in action from the
Vietnam
War, have been identified and returned to his family for burial with
full military
honors.
He is Air Force Maj. Robert Harry Schuler, Jr., of
Wellsburg, N.Y. His
internment is scheduled for Saturday in Franklindale, Penn.
On Oct. 15, 1965, Shuler was flying his F-105
*Thunderchief* as part of
a four-ship flight north of Hanoi when the lead aircraft was hit by
enemy fire.
Shuler remained in the area to provide support to the downed pilot
while the two
other aircraft departed for aerial refueling. When they returned,
Shuler was no
longer in the area and they could not establish radio contact with him.
An
extensive aerial search of the entire flight route met with negative
results.
Between 1993 and 1998, joint U.S. and Vietnamese teams
conducted seven
investigations, including unilateral archival research by Vietnamese
officials.
The final investigation in Nov. 1998 led the teams to a Vietnamese army
officer who
recounted his unit shooting down an F-105 on the date and in the area
where Schuler
went down. That team surveyed the crash area, found fragments of an
F-105, and
recommended the area for excavation.
Teams led by the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC)
excavated the
site on four occasions between Sept. 1999 and Mar. 2001, recovering
more wreckage
as well as human remains. In addition to other forensic tools, JPAC
scientists
used mitochondrial DNA comparisons to confirm the identification of
Schuler's
remains.
Of the 88,000 Americans missing in action from WWII, the
Korean War,
the Cold War, the Vietnam War and Desert Storm, 1,833 are from the
Vietnam War,
with 1,397 of those within the country of Vietnam. Another 750
Americans have been
accounted for since the end of the Vietnam War, with 524 of those from
the country
of Vietnam.
For additional information on the Defense Department's
mission to
account for missing Americans, visit the DPMO website at
www.dtic.mil/dpmo or call
703-699-1169.
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National Veterans Wheelchair Games Come to Minneapolis
More than 500 disabled veterans will compete in the National Veterans Wheelchair Games from June 27 to July 1, 2005, in Minneapolis. This year marks the 25th year of the event, which has grown to become the largest annual wheelchair sports event in the world. The Wheelchair Games, presented by the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) and Paralyzed Veterans of America (PVA), are open to all U.S. military veterans who use wheelchairs for sports competition due to spinal cord injuries, certain neurological conditions, amputations or other mobility impairments. The Minneapolis VA Medical Center and the PVA Minnesota Chapter are hosting the 2005 games. For more information about the National Veterans Wheelchair Games, or to follow events as they happen, visit the Games website at www.wheelchairgames.org.
Family of Missing Serviceman Copes With Lack of Closure
To: DEFENSE-PRESS-SERVICE-L@DTIC.MIL
By Rudi Williams
American Forces Press Service
ARLINGTON, Va., June 20, 2005 - The Defense Department annually briefs
families of servicemen still missing in Southeast Asia, and in their
quest for closure, mother and daughter Jeanette Lilly, 79, and Susan J.
Harvey, 58, haven't missed a meeting in more than 15 years.
Every time they come to Washington for the latest information, they
learn something new, which inches them a little closer to closure toward
accounting for Lilly's son and Harvey's brother, Army 1st Lt. Lawrence
E. Lilly.
When he was shot down on March 17, 1971, Lilly was a member of Troop A,
1st Squadron, 9th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile), flying as
co-pilot of a Cobra helicopter gunship on a secret
visual-reconnaissance mission over Cambodia.
The military report of the incident states that as the aircraft was
near a landing zone, it was hit by enemy fire and forced to the ground
deep inside Cambodia in the Snuol District of Kracheh province, near Seang
village. The pilot, Capt. David P. Schweitzer, was rescued, but heavy
enemy fire forced the rescue helicopter to leave the area before Lilly
could be extracted.
Lilly, who was 26 years old, was last seen by U.S. personnel lying on
his back with his shirt partially open and blood on his chest and neck.
He was being fired on by Viet Cong forces, according to the report.
Harvey said that initially the military reported her brother missing
but didn't say anything about him being shot down and wounded.
"He was just missing," Harvey noted. "My mom and dad lived in Ventura,
Calif., then, and the newspaper there published a three-line notice
saying he was missing -- that's all we knew.
"About five months later, in August, we found out that he had been shot
down, wounded and a rescue helicopter came in and managed to save the
pilot," said Harvey, a civilian employee in the Office of the Assistant
Secretary of the Army for Manpower and Reserve Affairs in Arlington.
"But enemy fire was so heavy that my brother wasn't able to reach the
helicopter. The helicopter had to pull out because two or three of the
rescuers had been hit by enemy fire.
"My initial reaction was a tremendous amount of hope," said Harvey, the
daughter of a retired Air Force colonel and pilot who flew missions
during World War II, the Berlin Airlift, Korean War and Vietnam War. Her
father, Bobby Lilly, 80, hasn't attended the briefings for the past five
years because of health problems.
"We managed to always live with the hope that we would hear something
more, receive the remains or something. We were eventually told that he
died of his wounds. The South Vietnamese troops reached him and cared
for him until they had another tremendous battle and most of them and
our son were wiped out by the Viet Cong," Jeanette Lilly, of Gambrills,
Md., said.
Before her brother was killed, he was trying to evade a group of
soldiers he thought were the enemy, Harvey said. "South Vietnamese soldiers
were trying to reach him, but he didn't know that they were our allies,"
Susan said. "An American captain in a helicopter radioed down my
brother's name to the South Vietnamese soldiers so they could call out his
name so he would stop evading. They administered medical care, but he
still didn't make it."
A resident of Alexandria, Va., Harvey said she and her mother attend
the government briefings every year to listen to the stories of others
and to stay close to people in the same situation.
"For example," she said, "last May, a joint recovery team went back to
that site in Cambodia and talked to a farmer who possibility may have
seen something during the episode. To us, that's a reach back where they
can actually talk to someone who might not have been present during the
battle, but saw things afterwards. So, by those interviews, it brings
us closer to closure. And we know that he isn't forgotten and people are
still working to find something.
"Every year we come, and we learn more by reviewing the records," said
Harvey. "Initially, my mom and dad received a small piece of paper
stating that he was missing. They didn't know anything else until about 15
years ago when we came across an Army office and was invited to come in
and look at records. We said, no, we have our little record, the
newspaper clipping and a document that the casualty office provided my mom
and dad."
They kept declining the offer, but the casualty officers finally
convinced them to take a look at the records. "We went in and were absolutely
appalled that there were actual eyewitness accounts -- the South
Vietnamese commander's account, the pilot's account, the rescue helicopter's
account of what they saw," Harvey said. "The record was shocking,
pretty rough to look at because it had everything, his dental records,
medical history and even his awards.
"After years and years and years of just a void, we were just shocked,"
she said. "So since that time, for the last 15 years, we've come back
and they've added to his record every time."
Lilly touched the large case file on the table and said, "That record
was about an inch high the first time. Now, it's like four inches high.
All the information they've gathered is unreal. So we're now getting
the story and the facts of what happened to him. We had nothing in the
beginning."
Harvey interjected, "It's really compelling because it's real. What's
significant is the military is still looking."
She said another compelling thing happened to her and her mother
because of their attendance at these briefings. "My mom didn't talk to any of
the soldiers my brother served with in Vietnam," Harvey noted "That,
too, had been a void. It wasn't convenient, we were at war and there
wasn't really any communications. So we were not in communications with the
people he served with."
That was until about two years ago, when a soldier from her brother's
unit in Vietnam tracked his name on the Internet and called her parents.
"The soldiers invited my parents to a reunion at a camp in White Fish,
Mont.," Harvey noted. "These were guys who knew my brother's story and
told accounts of the story. They even had a video of him smiling,
laughing; it was really something."
"They gave me a group picture consisting of a bunch of small pictures
of all the things they were doing over there," Lilly said.
The aging Vietnam veterans also showed her their Stetson cavalry hat
and explained its symbolism.
"There was a lot of camaraderie in their unit, so when something
happened to one of them, they never forgot," Harvey said. "These grown men in
their 50s and 60s got together and it was quite something."
"I accepted it as a memorial to Larry because all of the events were
about him," Lilly noted. "They called him the kid; we didn't know that.
And everybody there knew him quite well and they mourned him, just as we
have. Even on Memorial Day and March 17, the day he was killed, they
call. They each had their own separate account of what occurred."
Harvey didn't attend the reunion, but her sister, Donna Gargas, of
Severna, Md., was there. "These people were so respectful," Harvey said.
"But my mom helped console them because they'd grieved -- a total private
grief. They never got together to discuss this, but their recollections
were so crystal clear of what he was like, what he liked."
"For me, it's a closing, in a sense," Lilly said. "For instance, this
morning, we were talking to a lady who said a search team went into
Vietnam on May 4 and found remains of three missing servicemen. They also
found information about another site near there with remains of two more
people. Her son is supposed to be in this group. She is so excited
because she's expecting information any day. This is what we've had over
the years. We've come, and we'll hear this constantly. This is good
information and gives you a very good feeling for these people."
Lilly said it's heartening to meet other families to share stories with
every year during the briefings. "It was like the vets reunion in
Montana, they were sharing all the things that happened with them and with
Larry," she said.
Harvey said that after 35 years her brother doesn't have any presence
in her everyday life. "So you come here and talk to people and they
don't have the presence either. But it's an opportunity to talk to them and
bring it into the moment with people who are interested, including the
government folks," she said. "It just gives a forum to learn, share and
to listen."
Related Site:
DoD Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office
[http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/]
Related Articles:
Vietnam War Disc Jockey Cronauer Praises Families of MIAs
[http://www.dod.mil/news/Jun2005/20050615_1737.html]
General Promises Families DoD Will Continue Searching for MIAs
[http://www.dod.mil/news/Jun2005/20050617_1755.html]
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New Help for Severely Injured Vets
The Department of Defense has opened the Military Severely Injured Joint Support Operations (MSIJSO) Center, a 24/7 service to help severely injured servicemembers find jobs and answer questions they and their families might have. The MSIJSO Center offers help through a 24/7 toll-free number, 1-888-774-1361. In addition the DoD has partnered with Military.com to provide an online Career Center designed to connect Severely Injured Servicemembers with benefits, resources, and employment opportunities to help ease their transition. The Career Center can be found at www.military.com/support.
General Cites Influencers as Part of Recruiting Challenge
To: DEFENSE-PRESS-SERVICE-L@DTIC.MIL
By Sgt. 1st Class Doug Sample, USA
American Forces Press Service
FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, Md., June 17, 2005 - The greatest challenge
facing recruiters is the people who influence young men and women of the
"Millennium Generation" not to serve, the commander of the Army
Recruiting Command said here today.
"Influencers are clearly having an impact right now on our ability to
successfully recruit -- unquestionably so," said Maj. Gen. Michael D.
Rochelle, who was here to take part in a change-of-command ceremony for
the 1st Recruiting Brigade.
At a news conference following the ceremony, the general pointed out
that recruiting is getter harder because parents don't want recruiters,
"who simply want to tell the Army story, who we are and what it is we do
for this great nation," to sit down and talk with their children.
"The one characteristic that is very honorable and respectable about
'millennials' is that they listen and they generally heed the advice of
their advisers," Rochelle said.
"Whether we're talking parents, coaches, teachers, guidance counselors,
it matters not. They take all of that on board, then they filter it and
process it," the general explained.
Rochelle's comments come as the Army, for the fourth consecutive month,
failed to reach its recruiting goal. He said recruiters today have to
contact as many as 100 people before getting one person to sit down to
listen to the Army's story, and "that number is rising."
The general said his message to influencers and parents is that
"serving in America's Army is perhaps one of the most noble things that a
young man or woman can do today."
"Every soldier who serves does so with the pride of all of America," he
noted. "It is tremendously noble. Does it come with some sacrifice and
danger? Absolutely."
But, he added, "that nobility is something that they should recognize
and encourage."
Despite the challenges, the general said, the recruiting command will
give "everything it has" to meet the goal of 80,000 new recruits in
fiscal 2005, which ends Sept. 30. "We're still focused very much on 100
percent success," he said.
Rochelle expressed hope that recruiting numbers will get better soon,
especially during the upcoming summer, when high school graduates will
be faced with the question of what to do next.
"Typically, we get a lift in the summer months," he said. "The question
will be how much of a lift. I'm hoping for a very good lift."
The general said the Army hopes to bring in new recruits by increasing
signing bonuses to up to $40,000, a move that will require
congressional authorization. Programs also are in place to give soldiers tours of
military installations to give them a feel for Army life, and another
program partners with business to guarantee new recruits priority
interviews right when they complete training or military service.
He said about 100 companies have signed on with the Army in the
"Partnership for Youth Success," including the Dell Corp., Southwest Airlines
and Sears Logistics.
"What these companies realize is that these young soldiers, after
completion of military service, bring a quality that's frankly
irreplaceable," Rochelle said.
The general said his order to "stand down" recruiters in March was a
result of reports in the media that recruiters were using forceful and
unfair tactics to enlist new soldiers. He said the move was intended to
"refocus recruiters on Army values."
"We represent one of the most respected organizations in our society
and a values-based organization," he said. "Therefore, the focus was
exactly on that -- our Army values."
The general said the standdown did not result in any policy changes in
how the Army governs its recruiting. "We've not changed anything in how
we recruit tactically," he said, "nor policywise, which governs the
how."
Meanwhile, Rochelle brushed off questions about the quality of recruits
joining the military. "Are we looking at lowering quality? Absolutely
not," he asserted. He said he is very pleased with the "magnificent
young men and women" joining today's Army.
"You cannot help to be impressed by the fact that they are very much
like a throwback to the World War II great generation," he said. "They
really are inclined to serve."
Biography:
Maj. Gen. Michael D. Rochelle, USA [http://www.usarec.army.mil/]
Related Site:
Army Recruiting Command [http://www.usarec.army.mil/]
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Funding for HealtheVet Withheld
As part of its annual budget review, the House Committee on Veteran's Affairs has recommended withholding $311 million for the HealtheVet healthcare processing system from the Department of Veterans Affairs proposed 2006 budget. The funds are being withheld until questions about potentially serious interoperability problems between it and the legacy VistA system are resolved. Although HealtheVet has great potential, the application was developed and is being used on the legacy medical information system called VistA. The VistA program is more than 20 years old and runs on antiquated software, which is being updated. There is concern that HealtheVet might not function well after this update.