Message 31 of 52 in the Usenet group SOC.CULTURE.FILIPINO Subject thread: Great plan to help Philippines
*** NOTE *** I have taken the liberty to differentiate my posts / comments from those of the responders by using different colors. The current author will be in bold type. My posts / comments will be in blue, the responders will be in red. Past posts will also be italicized as well. Formatting may be changed to increase readability. All information will be left intact as was first presented.
*******************************************************************************
From: "skyrider" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Great plan to help Philippines
Date: 19 Oct 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
X-Priority: 3
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
X-Trace: typ12.nn.bcandid.com 940369644 207.211.58.16 (Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:47:24 EDT)
Organization: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http://bCandid.com
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:47:24 EDT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
RASSLE Co. <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<SNIP>
> NO!... Wait... I had to check the heading on my browser! It says "SOC.CULTURE.FILIPINO" not "soc.culture.china" or even "soc.culture.asia". I'm sorry, history was never my strong suite (not even American history or California history)...
Hmmm, Well Steve, I won't continue with the history as it appears to bore you (most likely, always has).
> but, OK, let's digress and look at China... an earlier post by Andy gave the reason that the USA priority after WW2 to rebuild Europe and Japan was to have a say in how they were reconstructed, also, to a large extent to keep out Communism from Russia. My, my, my, you say China was an ALLY? Can you say "back-stabber"?
Well, there was a big "to do" about who "lost" China (in American politics) back in the early 50's (as if it was *ours* to lose). But in the end they would have had just as great a need as the RP... if not greater.
<SNIP>
> I see no difference! (right down to the "garbage")
Again, I disagree.
<SNIP>
> You mean Hitler was out to line his own pockets and the rest of the nation went along with it? I guess I'll have to go back and read Hitler's "25 points of the Nazi Party".
Well no, He wasn't after money, he was after power and the dream of a 1000 year rule of Germany over Europe and Asia (and thereby the world). But when he lost the war (and it was clear even to him) he refused to surrender when the German nation still wasn't invaded, he acted (and remarked, that if they didn't deserve to rule the world... by their failure to *win* the war, then they *deserved* to be destroyed.) in a way to bring about, as best he could, as much destruction on his own nation.
<SNIP>
Singapore name could be exchanged for Hong Kong, name, the model is identical.
The HK/S idea is to compete with an educated workforce and strong local infrastructure, but otherwise staying out of the way of Business... letting the natural forces of markets increase the wages as the local population gains skills that are not available in other environments.
The Japanese model is to control access to the local business environment (like who can own land or businesses, :^) ) while trying to capture foreign markets from *their* local competitors by gaining market share (by any means available) until the local competitors can't *profitability compete (because they might only have 30% of their own market Vs the Japanese have 100% of their own market and 70% of the competitor's market.
The problem with the Japanese model is that it isn't going to work anymore. The circumstances that made it a successful model don't exist anymore: Cold war, Korean war (which did a lot for Japan's bottom line an the local supplier of resources for the war).
The idea of attracting investment by providing a positive business environment, to which the RP already has some good advantages... Like a educated, hard-working and intelligent workforce, central pacific location.
It lacks infrastructure, and money. If the government provided the infrastructure, the international investment community would provide the money... provided they don't feel they are building the company with *their* money and *their* ideas and *their* resources so that some local can *control* the resources. Steve you claim to own a company, *you* should know what I am talking about. Actually I don't really think there *is* a choice anymore, *unless* the RP provides a more positive business environment, money *won't* come to the RP at the levels that could really benefit the lower levels of society.
> Thank you again for your input... I'll probably be busy for a while (helping coach the school soccer team) but I'll drop by every once in a while.
Well, good luck with your team, and the shoe project.
Regards,
Gary