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Rarewhere Roundtable #2

3 Sept 2002

Welcome to this second edition of Rarewhere Roundtable. Every so often, the Rarewhere team will sit down and chat about the latest Rare issues. This time, we give our opinions on whether our sexy staff members (and readers) would still love Nintendo if Rare never existed:

"If not for Rare, would you still be a Nintendo fan?"




Tim: Forget it! There isn't a chance in hell that i would still be a Nintendo fan today if Rare had never been so kind to grace the N64 with some of the greatest games ever created. The only reason i ever got an N64 was for Goldeneye, and from then on, I went and collected every Rare game out there, so I have every N64 game developed by Rare (except for Blast Corps:) Infact, 90% of my games are Rare, and that includes SNES. There is really no way to describe how valuable Rare has been to Nintendo. Imagine the N64 without Goldeneye?! No Banjo Kazooie, No Perfect Dark, No Conker! It's as simple as this: If not for Rare, the N64 would have been a bigger failure than the Virtual Boy. Rare saved the N64 from certain death by producing top-notch titles without fail. My favourite game of all time is Perfect Dark, and i can't imagine Nintendo without Joanna and her fantastic chest! So no, if not for Rare, i would be a Sony fan through and through.. and thank heavens that never happened!





Ryan: If not for Rare I think that I would still be a complete Nintendo fan. Rare is great, and we all love them, but Nintendo knows how to make games as well. I have been a Nintendo fan ever since the NES days and I am not going to abandon them anytime soon. Don't get me wrong, losing Rareware would be a huge loss but I think that Nintendo can still hold its own with its other parties and Nintendo would still be great. Speaking of life without Rare, this draws me to the whole 3rd party rumour mill. If they indeed do go 3rd party we do not lose Rare altogether. I am sure Rareware will still be giving their old buddies Nintendo plenty of support... Unless they pull a Squaresoft. So even if we do lose Rare, we will still be seeing some Rareware titles on the GameCube. I don't think Rare would just completely abandon
Nintendo. If they do, I guess I can still live...




Luke: If it weren't for Rare, then no, i peobably wouldn't
be a Nintendo fan. Rare kept me entertained during the
N64 era and about 70% my own games were Rare developed. My first N64 game was Banjo Kazooie and my last was Conker's Bad Fur Day. Without the fantastic Rare games i would have probably turned to
Sony or Microsoft after the N64 era.




Daniel: Out of all the Roundtable topics I have seen and been involved in (one) this has to be the hardest of questions to answer. It's almost like asking if not for butter would you like bread? Because that's how tight I believe Nintendo and Rare are.

Rare have made some great games, no, some f#%$ing awesome games and they're almost like a mini-Nintendo, because with every first-party game for your Nintendo console you are guaranteed a classic, and that goes for Rare too. You cannot ask the question that we are being asked because it is impossible to answer. Nintendo &  Rare are partners and I highly doubt that Nintendo have never helped Rare out when it came to games design.

They're my opinions, like them or hate them its how I see things on my side of the border, and frankly the day Rare leave Nintendo will be the day Ken leaves Barbie. :)


Clone: I may just be the letter guy, and its true I haven't done any work since I've started [PLEASE GIVE ME WORK AND SEND ME YOUR EMAILS!!] but I still have a say in this Roundtable. Now, I was never a Rare fan to start off with, it was all about Pokemon. Pokemon is the real reason why I became the avid Nintendo fan I am. But time has past and I've moved on from Pokemon. I got my N64 as a Christmas present, with a copy of Pokemon snap [*shudders*], while the game wasn't that good I was happy because it was Pokemon, that was how i got more into games. In distress as I had finished PS on that very same day, I went out and bought Zelda with some extra cash I had. It was great, I loved every minute of it, the feeling and atmosphere in the Deku tree was very moving, and it captured me into video games like I had never been before. To make a long story short, Rare had no place in making me a Nintendo fan, Zelda did, and I would still be a Nintendo fan today with out the linear platformers of DK64 and Banjo Kazooie, however if I had never played PD I would not know what would happen to me, perhaps it would've saved me from ditching the N64 for a PS1 but that is something only the heavens would know.

Reader Response

Josh: There is no denying that Rare have had a huge impact on the gaming industry. But the question remains: If not for Rare, would I still be a Nintendo fan? Well, yes and no. During the lifespan of the N64 I owned and played many Rare titles including PD, Banjo Kazooie etc. and I enjoyed these titles immensely. Yet, there were still a lot of other titles to entertain me. If Rare disappeared right now, I would still be a Nintendo fan. But if Rare never existed? Then no. Rare introduced me to Nintendo. I wanted a GB so I could play DK. It was from my love of those games that it expanded into what it is today.

Spag777: Well, to answer this, I have to go back to my gaming roots to tell how everything unfolded. I had a Sega Mega Drive when I was about 12 and I used to be a Nintendo hater (forgive my sins). At this time I wasn't really into games and took them as they came. Then in 1996, the Nintendo 64 and PSX came out. I had to make a decision, because I had a Sega before, this decision was not based on loyalty but rather which system i would enjoy more. At first I wanted a PSX but my Dad showed me the 64 and I was hooked. So I got my Nintendo 64 with Mario 64 and Mario Kart. After 6 brilliant years with the 64 I took the next step and brought myself a GameCube. Now, I am a fully pledged Nintendo fanatic. Now that my gaming history is summed up I can go back to the question. My first Rare experience was Banjo Kazooie and then I played such gems such as Perfect Dark, DK64, Goldeneye, Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo Tooie, much of my gaming bliss is because of Rare. So, Rare are very important to me. If Rare had gone multi-platform before the GameCube was released I still would of brought a GameCube because Nintendo make awesome games as well. But I would have been inclined to at least think about another system. My love for Nintendo is based on the fact that they make brilliant games. Having Rare on their team just further enhances my love for Nintendo. So, in summing up, I say that yes I would still love Nintendo but not nearly as much. Rare are an important part of Nintendo and their alliance is what makes Nintendo the best.

Nintendo� - Rare = Nintendo
Nintendo + Rare = Gaming Bliss

Hmmm, we're certainly divided on the topic this time round! It seems that some of us need Rare, and others could survive without them...just!
Thanks to everyone that contributed, and watch out for next month's topic early and you could appear here! Thanks for reading, and until next time when we do this all again, keep reading Rarewhere, and enjoy your GameCube!
Clone may be uglier than me, but when it comes to Diddy Kong Racing, i kick arse!
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