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Message Archive of Month of October, 2004 ( From Octo. 01 to 10. )

----- Original Message -----

From: sayvari

To: [email protected]

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:13 AM

Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] " Marg- Darshan"

Aapko yah jaankar ashcarya hoga It is credible to note that most of the speech writers in USA and Canada for the politicians are Indians. My employer although of British origin cannot write a letter for a dime, I used to do the correpsondence on his behalf. The North Americans as fo today with the exception for the few educated have a good vocabulary but very poor written skills. The vocbulary of the general populace is as poor as the immigrant population from Punjab. Dhanya bahgya hai hamare ke hum Bharat mein janame isi karan Hindi aur kuchh sanskrit(jo ki lupt hoti jaa rahi hai) ka gyan honese ksis bhi bhasha ko seekhne main hum Baratiyon ko vilamb nahin lagta aur uchacharan ekdum sahi nikalta hain. Yah mera anubhav raha hai. Sayvari --- In [email protected], deekay singh <dbhanauri@y...> wrote: > Priya Mangaleshwar Ji, > > English ek saral bhasha hai aur bahut jaldi aur aram se seekha ja sakta hai. Kahte hai ki english seekhna asaan hai par English me maharat hasil karna thoda kathin hai. Aap apna patra vagerah english me likhana shuru kare. English grammer thoda padhe aur english newspapers and magzines bhi padhe. Jo kuch samajh me aata hai use samajh le aur jo samajh me na aye use yaad karle aur waise hi uska prayog karen. Baad me samajh me bhi aa jayega. Grameen prishthi boomi ke kaaran ham english se thoda ghabraate hai par agar bina dare aur jhijhak ke english ki taang todane lage to jaldi aa jayegi. Ek stur tak mushkil padegi kyonki english ke shabd ( vocabulry) yaad karne padenge aur unko use karna seekhna padega baad me sab aasan lagta hai. Atah ab aap agla patra english me hi likhe. USA me english aani chahiye par agar kam aati hai to log hasate nahi balki sikhane ki koshis karte hai. Isliye try kariye. > Dinesh Singh Naruka > > Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > Sujan Bhai & sabhi Rajpoot sadsyon jai mata ki > > Mai aap kee baton se purntaya sahamat hun, kintu kya aap ko ye mahsoos nahi hota kee prayogik taur par yah baat satya se pare hai. Udaharan ke liye mai english me bikul dhara prawah se nahi bol sakata halaki samajh to leta hun lekin American english to samjhane me bhi asuvidha hoti hai.isi liye mai aap se janana chahata hun ki kya bhavishya me mai bhi kabhi USA ja sakata hun. aap videsh me bhi rah kar apani matribhasha me bolane ke liye tarash jate hai aur mai yaha english kam aane ki wajah se kaei mahatwpurn upalabdhiyan prapt karane se wanchit rah ja raha hun. > Kripaya aap tatha anya sabhi sammaneey Rajpoot sadasyon se namra aagra karana chahata hun ki yadi mera kuchh "marg darshan" kare iske liye mai aap sabhi ka hriday se aabharee rahunga. > Jeewan ke Prarambhik samay se hee mai english ki kami se manwanchhit uplabdhiyon se wanchit rah gaya hun. Isaka karana yah hai ki mai suru me grameen pristh bhumi me pala-badhaa hun jaha par Class 6th se Alphabets wahairah seekha jata hai. Aap sabhi logon ke sahyog kee prteekshaa me- > Mangleshwar Sngh Gaharwar > Delhi, India > > > > > > > > SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > Mangleshwarji Jai Mata ji ki, bade hi durbhagya ki baat hai, apne hi > desh mein apne hi bhasha ka man nahin hai. Main yahan USA mein hindi > mein baat karne ko taras gaya hoon.Awal to yeh ki yahan hindi bhashi > khestron se kafi log nahin hai aur jo hain bhi to woh hindi kahan > bolte hain woh to urdu aur angrezi ki khichdi banakar hindi bhasha ka > apman karte hain. > > Mangleshwar jis desh ke log apne hi sanskriti aur bhasha ka samman > nahin kar sakte unhe yeh aasha bhi nahin karne chaihye ki koi > pardeshi unka samman karega. Mujhe khushi hai abhi aap jaise log hain > vahan par jinse main apne matrbhasha mein baat kar sakta hoon. > > jai mata ji ki. > > Sujan Shekhawat > --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh > <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > Aaderneey Sujan ji > > Ye to aap ka badppan hai warna ye to majboori hai mere saath mai > apane vicharon ko vyakt hee nahi kar pata hun. > > Thanks & Jai Mataji > > Mangleshwar Singh > > > > SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > > > Mangleshawarji ....Aapki HINDI ka jawab nahin. Dam impressed !!!!! > > > > Sujan Shekhawat > > --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh > > <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji > > > Sader Namaskaar > > > Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree > > dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere > lieye > > resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap > mujhey > > seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge > (yah > > meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun > > kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani > bhawnaaon > > ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. > > > Jayendrasinh Ji > > > Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani > > shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is > > samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap > > logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me > rah > > kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta > > hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka > > contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun > > batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. > > > Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar > > > Delhi,India > > > rasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > > Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, > > > jai mataji. > > > address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: > > > At.Vankaner. > > > dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. > > > phone:02828-220000. > > > Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] > > > STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. > > > Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company > > > named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a > > > contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada > > > dam.] > > > He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i > > > have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I > > > will let u know the phone no[at present don't > > > remember.] > > > thanks dr.jmjadeja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > > > > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > > > > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > > > > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > > > > Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > > > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > > > > Jai mataji. > > > > Few organisations which are active & in live > > > > contacts, > > > > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > > > > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > > > > india.But then most of them are just "paper > > > > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > > > > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > > > > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > > > > to entre names only after confirming the real > > > > existence. > > > > National Level organisations: > > > > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > > > > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > > > > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > > > > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > > > > This is the most credible national level > > > > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > > > > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > > > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > > > > This is the break-away group of no.1 > > > > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > > > > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > > > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > > > > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > > > > exists > > > > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > > > > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > > > > of > > > > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > > > > in > > > > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > > > > State-level organisations > > > > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > > > > reality is different. > > > > State-level organisations: > > > > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > > > > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > > > > 2]Himachal pradesh. > > > > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > > > > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > > > > Branches of both national level 1,2 > > > > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > > > > don't know.pl.find out. > > > > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > > > > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > > > > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > > > > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > > > > are > > > > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > > > > rajput > > > > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > > > > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > > > > school.etc. > > > > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > > > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > > > > Natwarsinhhji > > > > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > > > > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > > > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > > > > bhati.It > > > > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > > > > sabha.mainly in three districts. > > > > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > > > > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > > > > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > > > > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > > > > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > > > > other > > > > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > > > > may be active only in one district. > > > > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > > > > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > > > > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > > > > gujrat,all > > > > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > > > > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > > > > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > > > > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > > > > got > > > > good education since 50 years. before one > > > > decade,two > > > > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > > > > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > > > > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > > > > at > > > > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > > > > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > > > > been declared as donations by donors for this > > > > project. > > > > city level & district level organisations are many. > > > > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > > > > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > > > > Gujt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <gi_singh@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > > > > Singh Zala? > > > > > > > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > > > > to > > > > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > > > > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > > > > entry > > > > > as I suggested? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Snjiv Singh. > > > > > sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > > > sayvari <sayvari@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi sanjeev, > > > > > > > > > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > > > > > regards to > > > > > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had > > > > once > > > > > corresponded with > > > > > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > > > > > interested in developing > > > > > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > > > > > years back. While > > > > > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of > > > > Santacruz > > > > > he knows this > > > > > guy. > > > > > > > > > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > > > > > school/s at his > > > > > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sayvari > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > > > > > <gi_singh@y...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > > > > > > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > > > > > Details/Profile). > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > > > > > > > > > (local/state/national/international) please let me > > > > > know about their > > > > > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > > > > > info to add to the > > > > > website I'm working on. > > > > > > > > > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour > > > > to > > > > > me. Please write > > > > > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > Snjiv Singh > > >

----- Original Message -----

From: deekay singh

To: [email protected]

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:38 AM

Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] " Marg- Darshan"

Priya Mangaleshwar Ji, English ek saral bhasha hai aur bahut jaldi aur aram se seekha ja sakta hai. Kahte hai ki english seekhna asaan hai par English me maharat hasil karna thoda kathin hai. Aap apna patra vagerah english me likhana shuru kare. English grammer thoda padhe aur english newspapers and magzines bhi padhe. Jo kuch samajh me aata hai use samajh le aur jo samajh me na aye use yaad karle aur waise hi uska prayog karen. Baad me samajh me bhi aa jayega. Grameen prishthi boomi ke kaaran ham english se thoda ghabraate hai par agar bina dare aur jhijhak ke english ki taang todane lage to jaldi aa jayegi. Ek stur tak mushkil padegi kyonki english ke shabd ( vocabulry) yaad karne padenge aur unko use karna seekhna padega baad me sab aasan lagta hai. Atah ab aap agla patra english me hi likhe. USA me english aani chahiye par agar kam aati hai to log hasate nahi balki sikhane ki koshis karte hai. Isliye try kariye. Dinesh Singh Naruka Mr mangleshwar singh <[email protected]> wrote: Sujan Bhai & sabhi Rajpoot sadsyon jai mata ki Mai aap kee baton se purntaya sahamat hun, kintu kya aap ko ye mahsoos nahi hota kee prayogik taur par yah baat satya se pare hai. Udaharan ke liye mai english me bikul dhara prawah se nahi bol sakata halaki samajh to leta hun lekin American english to samjhane me bhi asuvidha hoti hai.isi liye mai aap se janana chahata hun ki kya bhavishya me mai bhi kabhi USA ja sakata hun. aap videsh me bhi rah kar apani matribhasha me bolane ke liye tarash jate hai aur mai yaha english kam aane ki wajah se kaei mahatwpurn upalabdhiyan prapt karane se wanchit rah ja raha hun. Kripaya aap tatha anya sabhi sammaneey Rajpoot sadasyon se namra aagra karana chahata hun ki yadi mera kuchh "marg darshan" kare iske liye mai aap sabhi ka hriday se aabharee rahunga. Jeewan ke Prarambhik samay se hee mai english ki kami se manwanchhit uplabdhiyon se wanchit rah gaya hun. Isaka karana yah hai ki mai suru me grameen pristh bhumi me pala-badhaa hun jaha par Class 6th se Alphabets wahairah seekha jata hai. Aap sabhi logon ke sahyog kee prteekshaa me- Mangleshwar Sngh Gaharwar Delhi, India SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <[email protected]> wrote: Mangleshwarji Jai Mata ji ki, bade hi durbhagya ki baat hai, apne hi desh mein apne hi bhasha ka man nahin hai. Main yahan USA mein hindi mein baat karne ko taras gaya hoon.Awal to yeh ki yahan hindi bhashi khestron se kafi log nahin hai aur jo hain bhi to woh hindi kahan bolte hain woh to urdu aur angrezi ki khichdi banakar hindi bhasha ka apman karte hain. Mangleshwar jis desh ke log apne hi sanskriti aur bhasha ka samman nahin kar sakte unhe yeh aasha bhi nahin karne chaihye ki koi pardeshi unka samman karega. Mujhe khushi hai abhi aap jaise log hain vahan par jinse main apne matrbhasha mein baat kar sakta hoon. jai mata ji ki. Sujan Shekhawat --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > Aaderneey Sujan ji > Ye to aap ka badppan hai warna ye to majboori hai mere saath mai apane vicharon ko vyakt hee nahi kar pata hun. > Thanks & Jai Mataji > Mangleshwar Singh > > SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > Mangleshawarji ....Aapki HINDI ka jawab nahin. Dam impressed !!!!! > > Sujan Shekhawat > --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh > <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji > > Sader Namaskaar > > Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree > dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere lieye > resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap mujhey > seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge (yah > meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun > kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani bhawnaaon > ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. > > Jayendrasinh Ji > > Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani > shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is > samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap > logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me rah > kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta > hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka > contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun > batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. > > Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar > > Delhi,India > > rasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, > > jai mataji. > > address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: > > At.Vankaner. > > dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. > > phone:02828-220000. > > Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] > > STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. > > Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company > > named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a > > contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada > > dam.] > > He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i > > have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I > > will let u know the phone no[at present don't > > remember.] > > thanks dr.jmjadeja

----- Original Message -----

From: amarsinh chavda

To: [email protected]

Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:05 PM

Subject: [RajputWorld ] Need NRI adds ,email and phone no for My bank .Union Bank to approch U

Dear all Rajputs Jay Mataji Please send me Your Email and Name and Phone No for my bank UNION BANK OF INDIA as bank wants to send msg to all friends who stay in UK and USA for our so many new productsand also e.remits and ebanking.PL try to help me by sending email to me .My email is [email protected] ........Jay mataji

Hello, Respected & beloved members, "Ishwar" welcomes you all to Ahmedabad. Kindly visit "Ishwar's" abode and have sakshatkaar with him. Ishwar would be happy enough to recieve you all. Regards n Jai Mataji, Ishwar Shekhawat Plz disturb me at 91-9825322635 (24 hours*7days a week*365days a year) Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Jay mataji to all who has so kindly have invited me to meet them when i visit India next month! Truly the numbers of emails that i have received on this platform n privately is unbelievable!! I will respond to all of u in due course!! Sujansa i have just got an idea y don't we all whoever is coming from USA,UK etc get together in DEC at one place say even for 2 day!! If we can do that it will be not only wonderful to put a face to a name but also an interesting networking opportunity for us all and to expand/share ideas knowledge in general n off course to have some fun time too :-))!! what say?? all we have to do is say for example be in A'bad for couple of days!! something like that.. then we can have our own conference hehehhhehehe just joking.. no really do let me know what ya think all..?! regards sorry too busy so rushing..pardon any mistakes pls Rupaba SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <[email protected]> wrote: Rupa Ba, Jai Mata ji ki......... I am visiting India in Dec. I will be in Rajasthan(Jaipur). I would love to meet you. I guess Ajitsa is also visiting at the same time , may be we can meet at some point of time. I am visiting on 4th of Dec. and will be there till 13th Jan. Let me know your plans. SUJAN SHEKHAWAT --- In [email protected], &quoot;rupa_g_jadeja" <rupa_g_jadeja@y...> wrote: > > > Hi All > > On da foot steps of my pal...... :-)) > > I too will be visiting India for 7 weeks from 14th November and will > be in Mumbai, Gujarat (Saurastra & Kutchh), Delhi and > Rajasthan...etc places. > > Although it is heavily scheduled programme with work and other > engagements I would be very happy to meet my new friends on this > platform as many as possible please!! > > If you are in the above mentioned areas and would like to meet up > with me then can you please email me too and I will let you know the > dates of my programme. > > Regards N Jay Mataji to all > Rupaba Jadeja > > > --- In [email protected], "Ajit Rathod" <arathod@w...> > wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > For your information, I am visiting India for 5 weeks in coming > > December. I will be reaching to India on 21st of November and Will > > be there till 1st of Jan 2005. > > > > If any one visiting Ahmedabad, during this period and could meet > me, > > I would love that. So please feel free to contact me on my e-mail > if > > we can organise a meeting. > > > > Thanks, > > Cheers, > > Ajit

Shriman Sajayjee, British Council (and so is British Government ) bhali bhanti is baat se avagat hai aur isiliye in gore logone Rupaba jaise ( multi lingual ) logo ko itane bade padsthan ( Communication Manager ) par birajman kar rakha hai. Is British empire ka Surya nasta nabood jaroor ho gaya hai kintu in ki rana niti ( strategy ) Aaj bhi Usi Dhang se kam kar rahi hai.aur fir bichmein kuch yojana ksati ke karan Kamlesh Behal Jaise Kisse sapati pe a jate hai. Yaha Dubai mei to Hinglish bhi nahi, Yaha to Bhel Puri English chalata hai- combination of Arabic, Hindi, Urdu, and free chatani of even mixture words from Malayalam, Tamil, Gujarati and Marathi words. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: sayvari To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:55 AM Subject: [RajputWorld ] Re: " Marg- Darshan" Saprem Namaskar, Aapko suchit kiya jaata hai ke Hindi ka bhavishya ujjwal hai, is sandarbh me padhiye yah lekh, ant main. Hinglish ko hindi hote der nahin lagegi. Aur jis tarah hamari(Nharaki) abadi badhti jaa rahi hai woh din door nahin ke jis tarah aap ab sampark kar rahen hai usi prakar se sara jagat " Tu Tu Main Main " (Pun intended) kiya karega. Atah aap chinta na kare, samay anusaar sab theek ho jayega. Jai ramji ji ki. Sayvari 'The world'll speak in Hinglish' IANS[ SUNDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2004 08:16:16 PM ] NEW DELHI: "Hinglish" will soon become the most commonly spoken form of the language globally, a leading British language expert has predicted. "Already, a third of Indians are speaking the language, a percentage expected to rise in coming years. With the Internet spreading English like no other tool ever, and Indians at the forefront of the IT revolution, Indian English will reach around the globe and take over from British and American forms," said Prof David Crystal, one of the world's leading linguists and author of several books on the English language. But the professor also sees the future bright for other variations of English spoken as a second language. "I believe the mother tongue countries have had their day. It is now the turn of countries where English is spoken as a second language to take the lead," he said in his lecture 'The Future of Englishes' at the British Council on Saturday evening. Some 400 million people, mostly in former British colonies, speak variations of English as their second language, about the same number as those speaking it as their mother tongue. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/880272.cms --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > Sujan Bhai & sabhi Rajpoot sadsyon jai mata ki > > Mai aap kee baton se purntaya sahamat hun, kintu kya aap ko ye mahsoos nahi hota kee prayogik taur par yah baat satya se pare hai. Udaharan ke liye mai english me bikul dhara prawah se nahi bol sakata halaki samajh to leta hun lekin American english to samjhane me bhi asuvidha hoti hai.isi liye mai aap se janana chahata hun ki kya bhavishya me mai bhi kabhi USA ja sakata hun. aap videsh me bhi rah kar apani matribhasha me bolane ke liye tarash jate hai aur mai yaha english kam aane ki wajah se kaei mahatwpurn upalabdhiyan prapt karane se wanchit rah ja raha hun. > Kripaya aap tatha anya sabhi sammaneey Rajpoot sadasyon se namra aagra karana chahata hun ki yadi mera kuchh "marg darshan" kare iske liye mai aap sabhi ka hriday se aabharee rahunga. > Jeewan ke Prarambhik samay se hee mai english ki kami se manwanchhit uplabdhiyon se wanchit rah gaya hun. Isaka karana yah hai ki mai suru me grameen pristh bhumi me pala-badhaa hun jaha par Class 6th se Alphabets wahairah seekha jata hai. Aap sabhi logon ke sahyog kee prteekshaa me- > Mangleshwar Sngh Gaharwar > Delhi, India > > > > > > > > SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > Mangleshwarji Jai Mata ji ki, bade hi durbhagya ki baat hai, apne hi > desh mein apne hi bhasha ka man nahin hai. Main yahan USA mein hindi > mein baat karne ko taras gaya hoon.Awal to yeh ki yahan hindi bhashi > khestron se kafi log nahin hai aur jo hain bhi to woh hindi kahan > bolte hain woh to urdu aur angrezi ki khichdi banakar hindi bhasha ka > apman karte hain. > > Mangleshwar jis desh ke log apne hi sanskriti aur bhasha ka samman > nahin kar sakte unhe yeh aasha bhi nahin karne chaihye ki koi > pardeshi unka samman karega. Mujhe khushi hai abhi aap jaise log hain > vahan par jinse main apne matrbhasha mein baat kar sakta hoon. > > jai mata ji ki. > > Sujan Shekhawat > --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh > <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > Aaderneey Sujan ji > > Ye to aap ka badppan hai warna ye to majboori hai mere saath mai > apane vicharon ko vyakt hee nahi kar pata hun. > > Thanks & Jai Mataji > > Mangleshwar Singh > > > > SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > > > Mangleshawarji ....Aapki HINDI ka jawab nahin. Dam impressed !!!!! > > > > Sujan Shekhawat > > --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh > > <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji > > > Sader Namaskaar > > > Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree > > dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere > lieye > > resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap > mujhey > > seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge > (yah > > meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun > > kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani > bhawnaaon > > ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. > > > Jayendrasinh Ji > > > Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani > > shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is > > samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap > > logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me > rah > > kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta > > hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka > > contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun > > batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. > > > Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar > > > Delhi,India > > > rasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > > Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, > > > jai mataji. > > > address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: > > > At.Vankaner. > > > dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. > > > phone:02828-220000. > > > Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] > > > STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. > > > Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company > > > named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a > > > contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada > > > dam.] > > > He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i > > > have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I > > > will let u know the phone no[at present don't > > > remember.] > > > thanks dr.jmjadeja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > > > > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > > > > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > > > > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > > > > Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > > > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > > > > Jai mataji. > > > > Few organisations which are active & in live > > > > contacts, > > > > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > > > > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > > > > india.But then most of them are just "paper > > > > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > > > > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > > > > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > > > > to entre names only after confirming the real > > > > existence. > > > > National Level organisations: > > > > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > > > > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > > > > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > > > > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > > > > This is the most credible national level > > > > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > > > > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > > > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > > > > This is the break-away group of no.1 > > > > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > > > > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > > > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > > > > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > > > > exists > > > > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > > > > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > > > > of > > > > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > > > > in > > > > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > > > > State-level organisations > > > > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > > > > reality is different. > > > > State-level organisations: > > > > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > > > > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > > > > 2]Himachal pradesh. > > > > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > > > > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > > > > Branches of both national level 1,2 > > > > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > > > > don't know.pl.find out. > > > > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > > > > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > > > > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > > > > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > > > > are > > > > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > > > > rajput > > > > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > > > > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > > > > school.etc. > > > > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > > > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > > > > Natwarsinhhji > > > > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > > > > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > > > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > > > > bhati.It > > > > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > > > > sabha.mainly in three districts. > > > > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > > > > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > > > > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > > > > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > > > > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > > > > other > > > > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > > > > may be active only in one district. > > > > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > > > > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > > > > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > > > > gujrat,all > > > > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > > > > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > > > > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > > > > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > > > > got > > > > good education since 50 years. before one > > > > decade,two > > > > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > > > > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > > > > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > > > > at > > > > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > > > > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > > > > been declared as donations by donors for this > > > > project. > > > > city level & district level organisations are many. > > > > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > > > > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > > > > Gujt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <gi_singh@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > > > > Singh Zala? > > > > > > > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > > > > to > > > > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > > > > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > > > > entry > > > > > as I suggested? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Snjiv Singh. > > > > > sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > > > sayvari <sayvari@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi sanjeev, > > > > > > > > > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > > > > > regards to > > > > > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had > > > > once > > > > > corresponded with > > > > > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > > > > > interested in developing > > > > > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > > > > > years back. While > > > > > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of > > > > Santacruz > > > > > he knows this > > > > > guy. > > > > > > > > > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > > > > > school/s at his > > > > > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sayvari > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > > > > > <gi_singh@y...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > > > > > > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > > > > > Details/Profile). > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > > > > > > > > > (local/state/national/international) please let me > > > > > know about their > > > > > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > > > > > info to add to the > > > > > website I'm working on. > > > > > > > > > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour > > > > to > > > > > me. Please write > > > > > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > Snjiv Singh >

Hi Rupaji, I am in Delhi and will be very happy to meet you too. But it my brothers wedding and so will have to go to my native place (Bihar ) to attend it. I will not be in delhi from 20th nov evening to probably 2or 3rd dec. But in any case let me know your schedule so that if there is any possibility we can meet. It will be reall pleaser to meet someone who has a bundel of knowledge and stories (which say somuch in simple words) ..... Regrards, Vandana rupa_g_jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All On da foot steps of my pal...... :-)) I too will be visiting India for 7 weeks from 14th November and will be in Mumbai, Gujarat (Saurastra & Kutchh), Delhi and Rajasthan...etc places. Although it is heavily scheduled programme with work and other engagements I would be very happy to meet my new friends on this platform as many as possible please!! If you are in the above mentioned areas and would like to meet up with me then can you please email me too and I will let you know the dates of my programme. Regards N Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja --- In [email protected], &quoot;Ajit Rathod" <arathod@w...> wrote: > Hi All, > > For your information, I am visiting India for 5 weeks in coming > December. I will be reaching to India on 21st of November and Will > be there till 1st of Jan 2005. > > If any one visiting Ahmedabad, during this period and could meet me, > I would love that. So please feel free to contact me on my e-mail if > we can organise a meeting. > > Thanks, > Cheers, > Ajit

Dear all friend, Our e-group is really fulfilling its objective in the sense that bond of our cyber virtual connection are turning in reality of feelings of extended family. Recently Krishanasinhji Gohil from Bahrin ( Gulf ) was with me in Dubai and we had good party time. I think Ajit (Australia), Rupaba ( UK), Bharat ( USA ), Arti (India ) and many other are going to have plan of meeting and partying together what we called 'Saksatkar Mulakat'. This happens on very few Yahoo groups and as Amit once told that for this Group deserve special award from Yahoo !!! Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: mahendra rathore To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Visiting India for 7 weeks. Dear respected Rupa ji, Most welcome to motherland. I am based in Mumbai (near to the air port) and would like to meet you. Kindly spare some time from your bussy schedule and let me know the convenient time/ date. Thanks & best regards Mahendra Rathore Mumbai. rupa_g_jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All On da foot steps of my pal...... :-)) I too will be visiting India for 7 weeks from 14th November and will be in Mumbai, Gujarat (Saurastra & Kutchh), Delhi and Rajasthan...etc places. Although it is heavily scheduled programme with work and other engagements I would be very happy to meet my new friends on this platform as many as possible please!! If you are in the above mentioned areas and would like to meet up with me then can you please email me too and I will let you know the dates of my programme. Regards N Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja --- In [email protected], "Ajit Rathod" <arathod@w...> wrote: > Hi All, > > For your information, I am visiting India for 5 weeks in coming > December. I will be reaching to India on 21st of November and Will > be there till 1st of Jan 2005. > > If any one visiting Ahmedabad, during this period and could meet me, > I would love that. So please feel free to contact me on my e-mail if > we can organise a meeting. > > Thanks, > Cheers,

Dear respected Rupa ji, Most welcome to motherland. I am based in Mumbai (near to the air port) and would like to meet you. Kindly spare some time from your bussy schedule and let me know the convenient time/ date. Thanks & best regards Mahendra Rathore Mumbai. rupa_g_jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All On da foot steps of my pal...... :-)) I too will be visiting India for 7 weeks from 14th November and will be in Mumbai, Gujarat (Saurastra & Kutchh), Delhi and Rajasthan...etc places. Although it is heavily scheduled programme with work and other engagements I would be very happy to meet my new friends on this platform as many as possible please!! If you are in the above mentioned areas and would like to meet up with me then can you please email me too and I will let you know the dates of my programme. Regards N Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja --- In [email protected], &quoot;Ajit Rathod" <arathod@w...> wrote: > Hi All, > > For your information, I am visiting India for 5 weeks in coming > December. I will be reaching to India on 21st of November and Will > be there till 1st of Jan 2005. > > If any one visiting Ahmedabad, during this period and could meet me, > I would love that. So please feel free to contact me on my e-mail if > we can organise a meeting. > > Thanks, > Cheers, > Ajit

Jay Mataji My self Bhagirathsinh Zala from Baroda Both the Guest Ajitbhai & Rupaba i like to give infromation & help my best. rupa_g_jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All On da foot steps of my pal...... :-)) I too will be visiting India for 7 weeks from 14th November and will be in Mumbai, Gujarat (Saurastra & Kutchh), Delhi and Rajasthan...etc places. Although it is heavily scheduled programme with work and other engagements I would be very happy to meet my new friends on this platform as many as possible please!! If you are in the above mentioned areas and would like to meet up with me then can you please email me too and I will let you know the dates of my programme. Regards N Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja --- In [email protected], &quoot;Ajit Rathod" <arathod@w...> wrote: > Hi All, > > For your information, I am visiting India for 5 weeks in coming > December. I will be reaching to India on 21st of November and Will > be there till 1st of Jan 2005. > > If any one visiting Ahmedabad, during this period and could meet me, > I would love that. So please feel free to contact me on my e-mail if > we can organise a meeting. > > Thanks, > Cheers, > Ajit

Saprem Namaskar, Aapko suchit kiya jaata hai ke Hindi ka bhavishya ujjwal hai, is sandarbh me padhiye yah lekh, ant main. Hinglish ko hindi hote der nahin lagegi. Aur jis tarah hamari(Nharaki) abadi badhti jaa rahi hai woh din door nahin ke jis tarah aap ab sampark kar rahen hai usi prakar se sara jagat " Tu Tu Main Main " (Pun intended) kiya karega. Atah aap chinta na kare, samay anusaar sab theek ho jayega. Jai ramji ji ki. Sayvari 'The world'll speak in Hinglish' IANS[ SUNDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2004 08:16:16 PM ] NEW DELHI: "Hinglish" will soon become the most commonly spoken form of the language globally, a leading British language expert has predicted. "Already, a third of Indians are speaking the language, a percentage expected to rise in coming years. With the Internet spreading English like no other tool ever, and Indians at the forefront of the IT revolution, Indian English will reach around the globe and take over from British and American forms," said Prof David Crystal, one of the world's leading linguists and author of several books on the English language. But the professor also sees the future bright for other variations of English spoken as a second language. "I believe the mother tongue countries have had their day. It is now the turn of countries where English is spoken as a second language to take the lead," he said in his lecture 'The Future of Englishes' at the British Council on Saturday evening. Some 400 million people, mostly in former British colonies, speak variations of English as their second language, about the same number as those speaking it as their mother tongue. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/880272.cms --- In [email protected], Mr mmangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > Sujan Bhai & sabhi Rajpoot sadsyon jai mata ki > > Mai aap kee baton se purntaya sahamat hun, kintu kya aap ko ye mahsoos nahi hota kee prayogik taur par yah baat satya se pare hai. Udaharan ke liye mai english me bikul dhara prawah se nahi bol sakata halaki samajh to leta hun lekin American english to samjhane me bhi asuvidha hoti hai.isi liye mai aap se janana chahata hun ki kya bhavishya me mai bhi kabhi USA ja sakata hun. aap videsh me bhi rah kar apani matribhasha me bolane ke liye tarash jate hai aur mai yaha english kam aane ki wajah se kaei mahatwpurn upalabdhiyan prapt karane se wanchit rah ja raha hun. > Kripaya aap tatha anya sabhi sammaneey Rajpoot sadasyon se namra aagra karana chahata hun ki yadi mera kuchh "marg darshan" kare iske liye mai aap sabhi ka hriday se aabharee rahunga. > Jeewan ke Prarambhik samay se hee mai english ki kami se manwanchhit uplabdhiyon se wanchit rah gaya hun. Isaka karana yah hai ki mai suru me grameen pristh bhumi me pala-badhaa hun jaha par Class 6th se Alphabets wahairah seekha jata hai. Aap sabhi logon ke sahyog kee prteekshaa me- > Mangleshwar Sngh Gaharwar > Delhi, India > > > > > > > > SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > Mangleshwarji Jai Mata ji ki, bade hi durbhagya ki baat hai, apne hi > desh mein apne hi bhasha ka man nahin hai. Main yahan USA mein hindi > mein baat karne ko taras gaya hoon.Awal to yeh ki yahan hindi bhashi > khestron se kafi log nahin hai aur jo hain bhi to woh hindi kahan > bolte hain woh to urdu aur angrezi ki khichdi banakar hindi bhasha ka > apman karte hain. > > Mangleshwar jis desh ke log apne hi sanskriti aur bhasha ka samman > nahin kar sakte unhe yeh aasha bhi nahin karne chaihye ki koi > pardeshi unka samman karega. Mujhe khushi hai abhi aap jaise log hain > vahan par jinse main apne matrbhasha mein baat kar sakta hoon. > > jai mata ji ki. > > Sujan Shekhawat > --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh > <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > Aaderneey Sujan ji > > Ye to aap ka badppan hai warna ye to majboori hai mere saath mai > apane vicharon ko vyakt hee nahi kar pata hun. > > Thanks & Jai Mataji > > Mangleshwar Singh > > > > SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > > > Mangleshawarji ....Aapki HINDI ka jawab nahin. Dam impressed !!!!! > > > > Sujan Shekhawat > > --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh > > <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji > > > Sader Namaskaar > > > Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree > > dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere > lieye > > resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap > mujhey > > seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge > (yah > > meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun > > kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani > bhawnaaon > > ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. > > > Jayendrasinh Ji > > > Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani > > shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is > > samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap > > logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me > rah > > kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta > > hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka > > contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun > > batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. > > > Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar > > > Delhi,India > > > rasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > > Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, > > > jai mataji. > > > address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: > > > At.Vankaner. > > > dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. > > > phone:02828-220000. > > > Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] > > > STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. > > > Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company > > > named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a > > > contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada > > > dam.] > > > He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i > > > have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I > > > will let u know the phone no[at present don't > > > remember.] > > > thanks dr.jmjadeja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > > > > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > > > > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > > > > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > > > > Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > > > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > > > > Jai mataji. > > > > Few organisations which are active & in live > > > > contacts, > > > > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > > > > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > > > > india.But then most of them are just "paper > > > > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > > > > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > > > > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > > > > to entre names only after confirming the real > > > > existence. > > > > National Level organisations: > > > > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > > > > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > > > > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > > > > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > > > > This is the most credible national level > > > > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > > > > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > > > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > > > > This is the break-away group of no.1 > > > > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > > > > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > > > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > > > > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > > > > exists > > > > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > > > > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > > > > of > > > > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > > > > in > > > > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > > > > State-level organisations > > > > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > > > > reality is different. > > > > State-level organisations: > > > > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > > > > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > > > > 2]Himachal pradesh. > > > > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > > > > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > > > > Branches of both national level 1,2 > > > > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > > > > don't know.pl.find out. > > > > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > > > > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > > > > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > > > > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > > > > are > > > > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > > > > rajput > > > > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > > > > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > > > > school.etc. > > > > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > > > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > > > > Natwarsinhhji > > > > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > > > > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > > > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > > > > bhati.It > > > > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > > > > sabha.mainly in three districts. > > > > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > > > > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > > > > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > > > > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > > > > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > > > > other > > > > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > > > > may be active only in one district. > > > > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > > > > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > > > > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > > > > gujrat,all > > > > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > > > > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > > > > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > > > > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > > > > got > > > > good education since 50 years. before one > > > > decade,two > > > > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > > > > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > > > > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > > > > at > > > > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > > > > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > > > > been declared as donations by donors for this > > > > project. > > > > city level & district level organisations are many. > > > > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > > > > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > > > > Gujt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <gi_singh@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > > > > Singh Zala? > > > > > > > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > > > > to > > > > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > > > > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > > > > entry > > > > > as I suggested? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Snjiv Singh. > > > > > sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > > > sayvari <sayvari@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi sanjeev, > > > > > > > > > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > > > > > regards to > > > > > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had > > > > once > > > > > corresponded with > > > > > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > > > > > interested in developing > > > > > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > > > > > years back. While > > > > > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of > > > > Santacruz > > > > > he knows this > > > > > guy. > > > > > > > > > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > > > > > school/s at his > > > > > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sayvari > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > > > > > <gi_singh@y...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > > > > > > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > > > > > Details/Profile). > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > > > > > > > > > (local/state/national/international) please let me > > > > > know about their > > > > > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > > > > > info to add to the > > > > > website I'm working on. > > > > > > > > > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour > > > > to > > > > > me. Please write > > > > > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > Snjiv Singh

Sujan Bhai & sabhi Rajpoot sadsyon jai mata ki Mai aap kee baton se purntaya sahamat hun, kintu kya aap ko ye mahsoos nahi hota kee prayogik taur par yah baat satya se pare hai. Udaharan ke liye mai english me bikul dhara prawah se nahi bol sakata halaki samajh to leta hun lekin American english to samjhane me bhi asuvidha hoti hai.isi liye mai aap se janana chahata hun ki kya bhavishya me mai bhi kabhi USA ja sakata hun. aap videsh me bhi rah kar apani matribhasha me bolane ke liye tarash jate hai aur mai yaha english kam aane ki wajah se kaei mahatwpurn upalabdhiyan prapt karane se wanchit rah ja raha hun. Kripaya aap tatha anya sabhi sammaneey Rajpoot sadasyon se namra aagra karana chahata hun ki yadi mera kuchh "marg darshan" kare iske liye mai aap sabhi ka hriday se aabharee rahunga. Jeewan ke Prarambhik samay se hee mai english ki kami se manwanchhit uplabdhiyon se wanchit rah gaya hun. Isaka karana yah hai ki mai suru me grameen pristh bhumi me pala-badhaa hun jaha par Class 6th se Alphabets wahairah seekha jata hai. Aap sabhi logon ke sahyog kee prteekshaa me- Mangleshwar Sngh Gaharwar Delhi, India SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <[email protected]> wrote: Mangleshwarji Jai Mata ji ki, bade hi durbhagya ki baat hai, apne hi desh mein apne hi bhasha ka man nahin hai. Main yahan USA mein hindi mein baat karne ko taras gaya hoon.Awal to yeh ki yahan hindi bhashi khestron se kafi log nahin hai aur jo hain bhi to woh hindi kahan bolte hain woh to urdu aur angrezi ki khichdi banakar hindi bhasha ka apman karte hain. Mangleshwar jis desh ke log apne hi sanskriti aur bhasha ka samman nahin kar sakte unhe yeh aasha bhi nahin karne chaihye ki koi pardeshi unka samman karega. Mujhe khushi hai abhi aap jaise log hain vahan par jinse main apne matrbhasha mein baat kar sakta hoon. jai mata ji ki. Sujan Shekhawat --- In [email protected], Mr mmangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > Aaderneey Sujan ji > Ye to aap ka badppan hai warna ye to majboori hai mere saath mai apane vicharon ko vyakt hee nahi kar pata hun. > Thanks & Jai Mataji > Mangleshwar Singh > > SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > Mangleshawarji ....Aapki HINDI ka jawab nahin. Dam impressed !!!!! > > Sujan Shekhawat > --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh > <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji > > Sader Namaskaar > > Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree > dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere lieye > resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap mujhey > seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge (yah > meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun > kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani bhawnaaon > ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. > > Jayendrasinh Ji > > Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani > shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is > samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap > logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me rah > kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta > hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka > contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun > batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. > > Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar > > Delhi,India > > rasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, > > jai mataji. > > address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: > > At.Vankaner. > > dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. > > phone:02828-220000. > > Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] > > STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. > > Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company > > named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a > > contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada > > dam.] > > He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i > > have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I > > will let u know the phone no[at present don't > > remember.] > > thanks dr.jmjadeja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > > > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > > > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > > > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > > > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > > > Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > > > Jai mataji. > > > Few organisations which are active & in live > > > contacts, > > > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > > > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > > > india.But then most of them are just "paper > > > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > > > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > > > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > > > to entre names only after confirming the real > > > existence. > > > National Level organisations: > > > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > > > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > > > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > > > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > > > This is the most credible national level > > > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > > > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > > > This is the break-away group of no.1 > > > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > > > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > > > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > > > exists > > > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > > > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > > > of > > > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > > > in > > > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > > > State-level organisations > > > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > > > reality is different. > > > State-level organisations: > > > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > > > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > > > 2]Himachal pradesh. > > > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > > > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > > > Branches of both national level 1,2 > > > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > > > don't know.pl.find out. > > > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > > > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > > > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > > > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > > > are > > > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > > > rajput > > > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > > > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > > > school.etc. > > > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > > > Natwarsinhhji > > > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > > > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > > > bhati.It > > > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > > > sabha.mainly in three districts. > > > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > > > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > > > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > > > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > > > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > > > other > > > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > > > may be active only in one district. > > > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > > > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > > > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > > > gujrat,all > > > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > > > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > > > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > > > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > > > got > > > good education since 50 years. before one > > > decade,two > > > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > > > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > > > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > > > at > > > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > > > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > > > been declared as donations by donors for this > > > project. > > > city level & district level organisations are many. > > > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > > > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > > > Gujt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <gi_singh@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > > > Singh Zala? > > > > > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > > > to > > > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > > > entry > > > > as I suggested? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Snjiv Singh. > > > > sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > sayvari <sayvari@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi sanjeev, > > > > > > > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > > > > regards to > > > > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had > > > once > > > > corresponded with > > > > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > > > > interested in developing > > > > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > > > > years back. While > > > > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of > > > Santacruz > > > > he knows this > > > > guy. > > > > > > > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > > > > school/s at his > > > > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > > > > you. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sayvari > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > > > > <gi_singh@y...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > > > > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > > > > Details/Profile). > > > > > > > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > > > > > > > (local/state/national/international) please let me > > > > know about their > > > > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > > > > info to add to the > > > > website I'm working on. > > > > > > > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour > > > to > > > > me. Please write > > > > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > Snjiv Singh > > > > > > > > > >

Rupa Ba, Jai Mata ji ki......... I am visiting India in Dec. I will be in Rajasthan(Jaipur). I would love to meet you. I guess Ajitsa is also visiting at the same time , may be we can meet at some point of time. I am visiting on 4th of Dec. and will be there till 13th Jan. Let me know your plans. SUJAN SHEKHAWAT --- In [email protected], "rupa_g_jadeja" <rupa_g_jadeja@y...> wrote: > > > Hi All > > On da foot steps of my pal...... :-)) > > I too will be visiting India for 7 weeks from 14th November and will > be in Mumbai, Gujarat (Saurastra & Kutchh), Delhi and > Rajasthan...etc places. > > Although it is heavily scheduled programme with work and other > engagements I would be very happy to meet my new friends on this > platform as many as possible please!! > > If you are in the above mentioned areas and would like to meet up > with me then can you please email me too and I will let you know the > dates of my programme. > > Regards N Jay Mataji to all > Rupaba Jadeja > > > --- In [email protected], "Ajit Rathod" <arathod@w...> > wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > For your information, I am visiting India for 5 weeks in coming > > December. I will be reaching to India on 21st of November and Will > > be there till 1st of Jan 2005. > > > > If any one visiting Ahmedabad, during this period and could meet > me, > > I would love that. So please feel free to contact me on my e-mail > if > > we can organise a meeting. > > > > Thanks, > > Cheers, > > Ajit

Hello Folks, I agree that India is corrupt, but sometimes i question myself as to who is to blame. For instance for my passport i applied well in advance and had the leasure of waiting till the police verification came home checked on me and i did not pay anything cause i did not want a rush job. Absolute contrast to this a friend needed to get his passport done in 4 weeks.. so he went and spoke to the guys at the police station etc and got the whole thing done in a rush... now obviousley we dont have a premium processing fee in India so he paid the other permium So my key question is who is to blame... for wild life conservation activities we have a Slogan "When the buying stops the killing can too".. so may be our slogan can be "If the offerings stops the demands will to" We also need to question our selfs of how fair we are and tend to be when in India and when out of India. Eg. I failed my driving test and was told that i did not come to a dead stop at a stop sign. well i said fine and came back for another round. Would i have done that in India.. possiablly not ? Also when ever we land up here in the US or any other place, we are cautious to follow all the customs and immigrations rules and regulations.. but when we head back to India the first question we ask our selfs is hey do u we know some on in the customs departments. so who's to blame..? Well yes Most Indias are not professional we have been cheated earlier is what we get to hear most of the time.. well i have view point on that..."Work with professionals not family or friends beause you feel obligated..they will fail to deliver not because they dont want to its because they are not competent to... Also we need to pay a fair price for the service we expect, dont cut corners cause you will realise that you loose more.... there is a saying "if you throw peanuts you will get monkeys"... well i am not saying all the time its this case there are some geniune frauds also.. now which country in the world does not have them.... the problem is there is no way of checking the background in India, at least here u can search on the web.. this is a place where u should use friends and family even better get a professional to do a background check.. well for one it will throw up red flags well in advance... Talking of the street police man.. well if we do jump a signal we need to pay a fine.. but we do better we pay a premium fee which is lower than the fine....so whoes is to blame... This translates to a habit... its like a tiger eating a human an easy prey.. it does become a man eater.. in the first place who made the cop a man eater..?? Well thats my ounce of thought... I do not claim that this is the most right thing.. its my just thought... i am open to critisism Regards, Ajay Kumar Singh P --- deekay singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Hitpal Singh ji is absolutely right. If you pay > money to indian police, not only they will let you > go but some time they will offer you samosa and chai > too ( offcourse from your own money). There is > absolutely no comparison between two societies, > Indian and US. Let us face it. > > Dinesh K. Singh Naruka

dear deviatsinhji,

pls give me 2-3 days, i will give some names and contact numbers of my known gujarati there will help you. you can directly phone them to get details.

Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji
Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai
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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 7:41 AM
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Respected All Rajput Member

First of all jay mataji

My self Daivat Jhala from â€“ Jamnagar(Gujarat) doing job in Reliance
Industries Limited, Mothi khawadi â€“ Jamnagar

I will join Al Kharifi International Limited (KUWAIT) near future

I need KUWAIT and Al Kharifi International Limited company information

Take care,

Daivat Jhala
Reliance Industries Limited
Phone # 0288-3011072

Dear All, I live abroad and at the schools this month is being celebrated with an exposure to Gandhiji. I have always read about the Trains depicting the Notice during the British Raj - "Dogs and Indian not allowed". Is there a picture available depicting the same on any website so that the students know what kind of derogatory practices were followed by the British. Regards, Sayvari

Aaderneey Rupa jee Jai mata ki Aap ke India agaman kee suchana se bahut Prasannata hui hai tatha aap se mulakat ke teebra abhilashee hoon kripaya Delhi taraf aane ka karykram kab hoga soochit kariyega jisese aap se mulakat ho. Kripaya apana contact no. bhi dijiyega jisese aap ke sampark me rahun. Rupa jee pahale to mai hindi me likhane me bahut sankoch karta tha sochata tha sayad sab log na samajhe kintu 1-2 mail aap logon kee hindi wali bhi paghakar laga ki mai bhi apani bhawanaoo ko sabhi Rajpoot sadsyon ke samane prakat kar sakata hun. Hardik dhanyavaad ke saath- Mangleshwar Singh gaharwar Delhi,India rupa_g_jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All On da foot steps of my pal...... :-)) I too will be visiting India for 7 weeks from 14th November and will be in Mumbai, Gujarat (Saurastra & Kutchh), Delhi and Rajasthan...etc places. Although it is heavily scheduled programme with work and other engagements I would be very happy to meet my new friends on this platform as many as possible please!! If you are in the above mentioned areas and would like to meet up with me then can you please email me too and I will let you know the dates of my programme. Regards N Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja --- In [email protected], &quoot;Ajit Rathod" <arathod@w...> wrote: > Hi All, > > For your information, I am visiting India for 5 weeks in coming > December. I will be reaching to India on 21st of November and Will > be there till 1st of Jan 2005. > > If any one visiting Ahmedabad, during this period and could meet me, > I would love that. So please feel free to contact me on my e-mail if > we can organise a meeting. > > Thanks, > Cheers, > Ajit

Hello my dear Gynendra!! As requested please see attached link which will give you details of MBA in 46 places in UK!! http://www.educationuk.org/ I hope this is helpful, if not please let me know n will be only too happy to help you further! Best wishes for a bright n happy future. Yours truly Rupadidi Rajat Rana <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Rupba Didi nice to see your active participation again in grp . I was bit busy in last few days. i am intrested in doing MBA in communication very soon i am going to India.So plz send me the details and address of universities. Thnaks & regards. Gyanendra Singh Rana

Hi All On da foot steps of my pal...... :-)) I too will be visiting India for 7 weeks from 14th November and will be in Mumbai, Gujarat (Saurastra & Kutchh), Delhi and Rajasthan...etc places. Although it is heavily scheduled programme with work and other engagements I would be very happy to meet my new friends on this platform as many as possible please!! If you are in the above mentioned areas and would like to meet up with me then can you please email me too and I will let you know the dates of my programme. Regards N Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja --- In [email protected], &quoot;Ajit Rathod" <arathod@w...> wrote: > Hi All, > > For your information, I am visiting India for 5 weeks in coming > December. I will be reaching to India on 21st of November and Will > be there till 1st of Jan 2005. > > If any one visiting Ahmedabad, during this period and could meet me, > I would love that. So please feel free to contact me on my e-mail if > we can organise a meeting. > > Thanks, > Cheers, > Ajit

Hitpal Singh ji is absolutely right. If you pay money to indian police, not only they will let you go but some time they will offer you samosa and chai too ( offcourse from your own money). There is absolutely no comparison between two societies, Indian and US. Let us face it. Dinesh K. Singh Naruka sinh <[email protected]> wrote: Jay Mataji to all group member Ajay Singh, you are right. Before 9/11, Indian Airline hijack. I do not know how many people died that accident. In the USA, 9/11 more than four thousand people died too. USA government did not want that happened again, so they change their security more. USA government doing their job. After 9/11, i came to India two times. But nobody ask me any question. I also want to travel new york and L.A because my cousin sister and brother live all around USA. Some time they ask me question, and i freely give them answer too. I know they are doing their job. They want to make USA safe. One more example... i was in India for three month. One guy die bcz accident happened. Police went their after two hours, same time, Police stop me bcz i was wrong line. Around me their four police man. But that guy there are no police man. IF same thing happened in USA. First police go to accident place and let the people go with Warning. But India police man, take money first after take care abt accident, they do not care that people are dieing... so do not talk abt any other country like USA. If you know abt USA, then plz talk abt. I live in USA for ten years. I do not have any problem with USA government or here police. They stop me bcz i do something wrong. They are doing their job so we have let them finish their job too. I know Indian government. One rajput stop me near Himatnagar, Gujarat. He was rajput, and he took five hundred Rupees form me. I did not broke any law but they stop me and told me give me your driver license and Honda registration card. I have Honda registration card but not Indian driver license. In India, Police need money. USA police wants make safe for us. USA, if you give police money they put you in jail. Other hands, India, if you give money, they let you free. Jay Mataji to all Hitpalsinh Rathod Ajay Singh <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Folks, My thoughts on this... India is a country divived over and over agian.... we have some how realised that its impt to first save our selfs first and then look at the whole picture... Its not that we dont have power, if Isreal does any thing US is supportive because the financial market in Newyork is controled by them... Same in the case with Indians we control the entire world with out technology capabilites, but we dont come united the way the Jews come togeather... This i belive has been the key reason why we feel dicriminated. Also its our fascination for the white skin that we dont question them in India. I dont know what to say weather years of invasion has made us tolerant to outsiders taking over or is it that we have become indifferent to what we go through. In Goa a forigener has more rights and better treatment than any Indian.. so whom do we blame... I guess this is the same with the entire asian culture. If we look at the Europeans they stand out.. why are they not discriminated in other parts of the world say for eg. in the US or south africa, i will not agree with tha fact that its just the colour of the skin. It goes beyond that... its the attitude and the support behind that.. the way they will come forward and pay back... Just imagine if the entire India worker force in the US had protested and not gone to work for Just one day after the George Fernandes incident.. Trust me the Entire US would have come to stand still... But then reality is that we dont care we are like hey its ok..... Europeans do that.. they protest American business if they feel discriminated... Well guess thats my food for thought and interpretation... i am sure other can share their view point... Just a word of caution..i dont want this also to end up as a dicusssion and view points So lets also figure out how we can change this. if not the whole Indian outlook at least we the Rajputs can come out of this. Regards, Ajay Kumar Singh P --- rajinder thakur <[email protected]> wrote: > > jai shri mahadev > > thanks to rupaji, mahendraji, chudsamaji,d.k.ji and > all other who replied to this mail. > chudsamaji and deekayji you were right , we > indians are also responcible for all the racism > which indians face in other countries. there is so > much racism prevalent in uk, usa and other western > countries. > i had heard that in the aftermath of 9 september, > indians were arrested and humiliated througout the > west. they were arrested for no fault of them . even > tourist were not spared. but such things do not > happen in india, even if something of such scale > happens here. > see the exaple of puruliya arms drop case, the > accused whoe was a british was let off, even though > charges of sedition were on him. only because > british wanted this. does such thing could have > happend in opposite case. i dont think so.even the > government remain silent. > these white have right to do evrything with we > indians.i thing all of us have heard of georgr > fernandes case.he was strip searched in american > airport, by usa authority.this happened after 9 > september, but mr. fernandes was going to that > country as cabinet minister for defence , > representing a country of 100 crore people, > representing 2nd largest army of world. he was strip > searched, does india has courage to do this even > with the ambassodor of usa. no we cant, we do not > protest, and failure to protest against this means > encouraging this.rupaji is doing the right think by > fighting for the cause of those indians which are > giving their all for that country. > ok for now. > jai shri mahadev > > > > > Rajinder Singh Thakur.. > > III Year (B.E) .. > > Electronics and Electrical Communication.. > > PUNJAB ENGINEERING COLLEGE.. > > CHANDIGARH..

Jay Mataji to all group member Ajay Singh, you are right. Before 9/11, Indian Airline hijack. I do not know how many people died that accident. In the USA, 9/11 more than four thousand people died too. USA government did not want that happened again, so they change their security more. USA government doing their job. After 9/11, i came to India two times. But nobody ask me any question. I also want to travel new york and L.A because my cousin sister and brother live all around USA. Some time they ask me question, and i freely give them answer too. I know they are doing their job. They want to make USA safe. One more example... i was in India for three month. One guy die bcz accident happened. Police went their after two hours, same time, Police stop me bcz i was wrong line. Around me their four police man. But that guy there are no police man. IF same thing happened in USA. First police go to accident place and let the people go with Warning. But India police man, take money first after take care abt accident, they do not care that people are dieing... so do not talk abt any other country like USA. If you know abt USA, then plz talk abt. I live in USA for ten years. I do not have any problem with USA government or here police. They stop me bcz i do something wrong. They are doing their job so we have let them finish their job too. I know Indian government. One rajput stop me near Himatnagar, Gujarat. He was rajput, and he took five hundred Rupees form me. I did not broke any law but they stop me and told me give me your driver license and Honda registration card. I have Honda registration card but not Indian driver license. In India, Police need money. USA police wants make safe for us. USA, if you give police money they put you in jail. Other hands, India, if you give money, they let you free. Jay Mataji to all Hitpalsinh Rathod Ajay Singh <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Folks, My thoughts on this... India is a country divived over and over agian.... we have some how realised that its impt to first save our selfs first and then look at the whole picture... Its not that we dont have power, if Isreal does any thing US is supportive because the financial market in Newyork is controled by them... Same in the case with Indians we control the entire world with out technology capabilites, but we dont come united the way the Jews come togeather... This i belive has been the key reason why we feel dicriminated. Also its our fascination for the white skin that we dont question them in India. I dont know what to say weather years of invasion has made us tolerant to outsiders taking over or is it that we have become indifferent to what we go through. In Goa a forigener has more rights and better treatment than any Indian.. so whom do we blame... I guess this is the same with the entire asian culture. If we look at the Europeans they stand out.. why are they not discriminated in other parts of the world say for eg. in the US or south africa, i will not agree with tha fact that its just the colour of the skin. It goes beyond that... its the attitude and the support behind that.. the way they will come forward and pay back... Just imagine if the entire India worker force in the US had protested and not gone to work for Just one day after the George Fernandes incident.. Trust me the Entire US would have come to stand still... But then reality is that we dont care we are like hey its ok..... Europeans do that.. they protest American business if they feel discriminated... Well guess thats my food for thought and interpretation... i am sure other can share their view point... Just a word of caution..i dont want this also to end up as a dicusssion and view points So lets also figure out how we can change this. if not the whole Indian outlook at least we the Rajputs can come out of this. Regards, Ajay Kumar Singh P --- rajinder thakur <[email protected]> wrote: > > jai shri mahadev > > thanks to rupaji, mahendraji, chudsamaji,d.k.ji and > all other who replied to this mail. > chudsamaji and deekayji you were right , we > indians are also responcible for all the racism > which indians face in other countries. there is so > much racism prevalent in uk, usa and other western > countries. > i had heard that in the aftermath of 9 september, > indians were arrested and humiliated througout the > west. they were arrested for no fault of them . even > tourist were not spared. but such things do not > happen in india, even if something of such scale > happens here. > see the exaple of puruliya arms drop case, the > accused whoe was a british was let off, even though > charges of sedition were on him. only because > british wanted this. does such thing could have > happend in opposite case. i dont think so.even the > government remain silent. > these white have right to do evrything with we > indians.i thing all of us have heard of georgr > fernandes case.he was strip searched in american > airport, by usa authority.this happened after 9 > september, but mr. fernandes was going to that > country as cabinet minister for defence , > representing a country of 100 crore people, > representing 2nd largest army of world. he was strip > searched, does india has courage to do this even > with the ambassodor of usa. no we cant, we do not > protest, and failure to protest against this means > encouraging this.rupaji is doing the right think by > fighting for the cause of those indians which are > giving their all for that country. > ok for now. > jai shri mahadev > > > > > Rajinder Singh Thakur.. > > III Year (B.E) .. > > Electronics and Electrical Communication.. > > PUNJAB ENGINEERING COLLEGE.. > > CHANDIGARH

Aaderneey Sujan ji Ye to aap ka badppan hai warna ye to majboori hai mere saath mai apane vicharon ko vyakt hee nahi kar pata hun. Thanks & Jai Mataji Mangleshwar Singh SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <[email protected]> wrote: Mangleshawarji ....Aapki HINDI ka jawab nahin. Dam impressed !!!!! Sujan Shekhawat --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji > Sader Namaskaar > Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere lieye resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap mujhey seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge(yah meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani bhawnaaon ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. > Jayendrasinh Ji > Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me rah kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. > Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar > Delhi,India > rasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, > jai mataji. > address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: > At.Vankaner. > dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. > phone:02828-220000. > Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] > STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. > Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company > named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a > contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada > dam.] > He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i > have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I > will let u know the phone no[at present don't > remember.] > thanks dr.jmjadeja > > > > > > > > --- Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > > Delhi > > > > > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > > Jai mataji. > > Few organisations which are active & in live > > contacts, > > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > > india.But then most of them are just "paper > > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > > to entre names only after confirming the real > > existence. > > National Level organisations: > > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > > This is the most credible national level > > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > > This is the break-away group of no.1 > > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > > exists > > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > > of > > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > > in > > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > > State-level organisations > > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > > reality is different. > > State-level organisations: > > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > > 2]Himachal pradesh. > > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > > Branches of both national level 1,2 > > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > > don't know.pl.find out. > > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > > are > > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > > rajput > > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > > school.etc. > > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > > Natwarsinhhji > > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > > bhati.It > > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > > sabha.mainly in three districts. > > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > > other > > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > > may be active only in one district. > > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > > gujrat,all > > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > > got > > good education since 50 years. before one > > decade,two > > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > > at > > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > > been declared as donations by donors for this > > project. > > city level & district level organisations are many. > > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > > Gujt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <gi_singh@y...> wrote: > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > > Singh Zala? > > > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > > to > > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > > entry > > > as I suggested? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Snjiv Singh. > > > sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > sayvari <sayvari@y...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi sanjeev, > > > > > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > > > regards to > > > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had > > once > > > corresponded with > > > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > > > interested in developing > > > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > > > years back. While > > > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of > > Santacruz > > > he knows this > > > guy. > > > > > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > > > school/s at his > > > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > > > you. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sayvari > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > > > <gi_singh@y...> > > > wrote: > > > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > > > Details/Profile). > > > > > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > > > > > (local/state/national/international) please let me > > > know about their > > > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > > > info to add to the > > > website I'm working on. > > > > > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour > > to > > > me. Please write > > > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > Snjiv Singh

Aaderneey Mahendra sinh ji Jai Mata Ki Ap ko dhanyavaad hamre smmaneey Jayendra sinh ji ke bare me vistrit jankaari dene ke liye. Is se mere dwara lagaya gaya andaj bhi theek hee sabit huaa. Aap ko to mai tasweer me dekh pa raha hun tatha aap ko bilkul apane paas mahsus kar ke hee likh raha hun. Kripaya aap ka jab kabhi India (Delhi taraf )aagman ho to mujhey suchit kariyega aap se sakshaat milkat kar ke badi prasannata hogee, aashaa karta hun ki aap ko mai pahchan bhi lunga yadi ye wali photo jada purani nahi hogee tab. Mahendrasinh ji mai aap logo kee saree mail padhata hun tatha aap logo ke vicharon se awagat ho kar garwanvit mahsus karata hun ki aap logo jaise jankar logo ka vichar jan paa raha hun. Yek baar fir aap sabhi ko Hardik dhanyvad ke saath. Mangleshwar Singh "M. B. Chudasama" <[email protected]> wrote:Shriman Magleshwarji, For the information of you and many member for that Dr. Jayendrasinhji Jadeja is most respected community gem and is quite senior in age ( i think around 48 yrs, i m not sure , i m guessing by some of my 20 years back involvment with him for some of his community related activities ) than many members over here. He is proffessor and head of Department in State Government Medical College and is President of GRYS - Gujarat Rajput Yuvak Sangh which again is instrumental in many of Rajput Community activities and have good political circles in all leading political parties to be used for welfare of Rajput causes. One out of many to count is presently he is instrumental in gearing up Project of Rajput Girls Hostel at cost of Rs.1.2 crores in Rajkot city treated as capital of Saurashtra region having all academic courses available to pursue higher edjucation in either of field or faculty. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: Mr mangleshwar singh To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] Haardik Dhanyavaad from Mangleshwar to Jayendrasinh Ji and All members Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji Sader Namaskaar Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere lieye resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap mujhey seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge(yah meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani bhawnaaon ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. Jayendrasinh Ji Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me rah kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar Delhi,India rasinh Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, jai mataji. address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: At.Vankaner. dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. phone:02828-220000. Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada dam.] He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I will let u know the phone no[at present don't remember.] thanks dr.jmjadeja --- Mr mangleshwar singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > Thanks & Regards, > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > Delhi > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > Jai mataji. > Few organisations which are active & in live > contacts, > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > india.But then most of them are just "paper > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > to entre names only after confirming the real > existence. > National Level organisations: > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > This is the most credible national level > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > This is the break-away group of no.1 > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > exists > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > of > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > in > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > State-level organisations > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > reality is different. > State-level organisations: > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > 2]Himachal pradesh. > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > Branches of both national level 1,2 > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > don't know.pl.find out. > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > are > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > rajput > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > school.etc. > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > Natwarsinhhji > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > bhati.It > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > sabha.mainly in three districts. > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > other > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > may be active only in one district. > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > gujrat,all > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > got > good education since 50 years. before one > decade,two > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > at > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > been declared as donations by donors for this > project. > city level & district level organisations are many. > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > Gujt

Dear All, I think this Reservation Business should be based only on Economic grounds and not as per religion or caste. so another option for Economic criteria should be included in the poll. Regards, Sayvari --- In [email protected], [email protected] wrote: > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > rajputworld group: > > SHOULD THERE BE RESERVATIONS FOR RAJPUT > COMMUNITY IN GOVT & PVT. SECTOR JOBS IN > INDIA? > > o YES > o NO > o MAY BE > o CANT SAY > o DOESNT MATTER > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/surveys?id=1556962 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > > Thanks!

Mangleshawarji ....Aapki HINDI ka jawab nahin. Dam impressed !!!!! Sujan Shekhawat --- In [email protected], Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji > Sader Namaskaar > Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere lieye resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap mujhey seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge(yah meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani bhawnaaon ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. > Jayendrasinh Ji > Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me rah kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. > Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar > Delhi,India > rasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, > jai mataji. > address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: > At.Vankaner. > dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. > phone:02828-220000. > Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] > STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. > Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company > named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a > contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada > dam.] > He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i > have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I > will let u know the phone no[at present don't > remember.] > thanks dr.jmjadeja > > > > > > > > --- Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@y...> wrote: > > > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > > Delhi > > > > > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <drjmjadeja@y...> wrote: > > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > > Jai mataji. > > Few organisations which are active & in live > > contacts, > > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > > india.But then most of them are just "paper > > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > > to entre names only after confirming the real > > existence. > > National Level organisations: > > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > > This is the most credible national level > > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > > This is the break-away group of no.1 > > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > > exists > > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > > of > > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > > in > > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > > State-level organisations > > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > > reality is different. > > State-level organisations: > > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > > 2]Himachal pradesh. > > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > > Branches of both national level 1,2 > > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > > don't know.pl.find out. > > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > > are > > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > > rajput > > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > > school.etc. > > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > > Natwarsinhhji > > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > > bhati.It > > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > > sabha.mainly in three districts. > > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > > other > > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > > may be active only in one district. > > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > > gujrat,all > > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > > got > > good education since 50 years. before one > > decade,two > > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > > at > > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > > been declared as donations by donors for this > > project. > > city level & district level organisations are many. > > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > > Gujt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <gi_singh@y...> wrote: > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > > Singh Zala? > > > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > > to > > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > > entry > > > as I suggested? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Snjiv Singh.

My number: 510 676 0449 Thanks Pavan --- SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Prashant, Welcome to the group. I myself joined > the group > recently. It really is a wonderful platform to > interact with fellow > rajputs. I am staying in Virginia.My cell no. is > 540-558-8017. > > Hope to get in touch soon. > > Sujan Shekhawat. > --- In [email protected], prashant singh > <prashantsingh7400@y...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > this is Prashant from tallahassee, > florida. super excited > to be in rajput group and is gonna be wonderful to > know many people. > I know few peoples on member list and even one of > the group moderator > alok chauhan from stoney brook. I would appreciate > if i can get the > phone number of all those staying in florida and > other states of u.s. > I would be more then happy to ring them up amd talk > to them . > > > > Thanks, > > > > Prashant > >

Dear Group(Moderators) I couldn't cast my vote for this poll. Please look into it. Sujan Shekhawat --- In [email protected], [email protected] wrote: > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > rajputworld group: > > SHOULD THERE BE RESERVATIONS FOR RAJPUT > COMMUNITY IN GOVT & PVT. SECTOR JOBS IN > INDIA? > > o YES > o NO > o MAY BE > o CANT SAY > o DOESNT MATTER > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/surveys?id=1556962 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > > Thanks!

Dear Prashant, Welcome to the group. I myself joined the group recently. It really is a wonderful platform to interact with fellow rajputs. I am staying in Virginia.My cell no. is 540-558-8017. Hope to get in touch soon. Sujan Shekhawat. --- In [email protected], prashant singh <prashantsingh7400@y...> wrote: > Hi all, > this is Prashant from tallahassee, florida. super excited to be in rajput group and is gonna be wonderful to know many people. I know few peoples on member list and even one of the group moderator alok chauhan from stoney brook. I would appreciate if i can get the phone number of all those staying in florida and other states of u.s. I would be more then happy to ring them up amd talk to them . > > Thanks, > > Prashant

Hello Folks, My thoughts on this... India is a country divived over and over agian.... we have some how realised that its impt to first save our selfs first and then look at the whole picture... Its not that we dont have power, if Isreal does any thing US is supportive because the financial market in Newyork is controled by them... Same in the case with Indians we control the entire world with out technology capabilites, but we dont come united the way the Jews come togeather... This i belive has been the key reason why we feel dicriminated. Also its our fascination for the white skin that we dont question them in India. I dont know what to say weather years of invasion has made us tolerant to outsiders taking over or is it that we have become indifferent to what we go through. In Goa a forigener has more rights and better treatment than any Indian.. so whom do we blame... I guess this is the same with the entire asian culture. If we look at the Europeans they stand out.. why are they not discriminated in other parts of the world say for eg. in the US or south africa, i will not agree with tha fact that its just the colour of the skin. It goes beyond that... its the attitude and the support behind that.. the way they will come forward and pay back... Just imagine if the entire India worker force in the US had protested and not gone to work for Just one day after the George Fernandes incident.. Trust me the Entire US would have come to stand still... But then reality is that we dont care we are like hey its ok..... Europeans do that.. they protest American business if they feel discriminated... Well guess thats my food for thought and interpretation... i am sure other can share their view point... Just a word of caution..i dont want this also to end up as a dicusssion and view points So lets also figure out how we can change this. if not the whole Indian outlook at least we the Rajputs can come out of this. Regards, Ajay Kumar Singh P --- rajinder thakur <[email protected]> wrote: > > jai shri mahadev > > thanks to rupaji, mahendraji, chudsamaji,d.k.ji and > all other who replied to this mail. > chudsamaji and deekayji you were right , we > indians are also responcible for all the racism > which indians face in other countries. there is so > much racism prevalent in uk, usa and other western > countries. > i had heard that in the aftermath of 9 september, > indians were arrested and humiliated througout the > west. they were arrested for no fault of them . even > tourist were not spared. but such things do not > happen in india, even if something of such scale > happens here. > see the exaple of puruliya arms drop case, the > accused whoe was a british was let off, even though > charges of sedition were on him. only because > british wanted this. does such thing could have > happend in opposite case. i dont think so.even the > government remain silent. > these white have right to do evrything with we > indians.i thing all of us have heard of georgr > fernandes case.he was strip searched in american > airport, by usa authority.this happened after 9 > september, but mr. fernandes was going to that > country as cabinet minister for defence , > representing a country of 100 crore people, > representing 2nd largest army of world. he was strip > searched, does india has courage to do this even > with the ambassodor of usa. no we cant, we do not > protest, and failure to protest against this means > encouraging this.rupaji is doing the right think by > fighting for the cause of those indians which are > giving their all for that country. > ok for now. > jai shri mahadev > > > > > Rajinder Singh Thakur.. > > III Year (B.E) .. > > Electronics and Electrical Communication.. > > PUNJAB ENGINEERING COLLEGE.. > > CHANDIGARH.. >

jai shri mahadev thanks to rupaji, mahendraji, chudsamaji,d.k.ji and all other who replied to this mail. chudsamaji and deekayji you were right , we indians are also responcible for all the racism which indians face in other countries. there is so much racism prevalent in uk, usa and other western countries. i had heard that in the aftermath of 9 september, indians were arrested and humiliated througout the west. they were arrested for no fault of them . even tourist were not spared. but such things do not happen in india, even if something of such scale happens here. see the exaple of puruliya arms drop case, the accused whoe was a british was let off, even though charges of sedition were on him. only because british wanted this. does such thing could have happend in opposite case. i dont think so.even the government remain silent. these white have right to do evrything with we indians.i thing all of us have heard of georgr fernandes case.he was strip searched in american airport, by usa authority.this happened after 9 september, but mr. fernandes was going to that country as cabinet minister for defence , representing a country of 100 crore people, representing 2nd largest army of world. he was strip searched, does india has courage to do this even with the ambassodor of usa. no we cant, we do not protest, and failure to protest against this means encouraging this.rupaji is doing the right think by fighting for the cause of those indians which are giving their all for that country. ok for now. jai shri mahadev Rajinder Singh Thakur.. III Year (B.E) .. Electronics and Electrical Communication.. PUNJAB ENGINEERING COLLEGE..

Hi Rupba Didi nice to see your active participation again in grp . I was bit busy in last few days. i am intrested in doing MBA in communication very soon i am going to India.So plz send me the details and address of universities. Thnaks & regards. Gyanendra Singh Rana

Sanjay jee, Apko Bhi "Nav-Ratri" ki subh kamnaye! u appealed earlier to RW's junta to join ur organization, I m happy 2 b a part of that but i m little bit curious abt ur org. Cud u u plz revel more abt ur organization (Akhil Bhartiya Kshattriya manch) i.e its branches in other states, as it is a national organization ,structure ,motto etc or do u have branches in other countries ?. By the way i like the pretty faces in the fotu album section of on ur website (http://www.sanjaysuryavanshi.itgo.com/photo2.html) . u r a gud fotugrapher (secret ?), a part form a secretary of above organization. amazing na ! Cheers, Urs rajnish --- In [email protected], sanjjay suryavanshi <sks3152002@y...> wrote: > > Happy Navratrata to all of u > > > sanjay suryavanshi > > National Secretry > > Akhil Bhartiya Kshattriya manch > > www.sanjaysuryavanshi

Jay Mataji,
my self Jhala Bhagirathsinh from Baroda,
sorry! this message is not related to u r subject but my friend Mr. Ashit Oza in a Accounts dept. at Jamnagar, Relience
my only intension is that u just meet him & make a good relation he is good person
Thanks
Jay Mataji

[email protected] wrote:

Respected All Rajput Member

First of all jay mataji

My self Daivat Jhala from â€“ Jamnagar(Gujarat) doing job in Reliance
Industries Limited, Mothi khawadi â€“ Jamnagar

I will join Al Kharifi International Limited (KUWAIT) near future

I need KUWAIT and Al Kharifi International Limited company information

Take care,

Daivat Jhala
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Phone # 0288-3011072

Dear all friends, Some of my friends on group must be thinking why the hell this Ms. Kales Buhl is discussed so much on this Rajput platform while we have so many other important topics / activities are there to do ?? This is just to clear doubt that we are giving some coverage only because one of our gem and most active member Rupaba is involved for campaigning this case and she being most active member of this group has got all right at least to use this platform again for wider issue of racial discrimination against Indian and Asian ethnic minorities in western countries affecting directly or indirectly to all us. Even here in Gulf we too are getting hurtled or victimized on many occasion where in one's qualification and efficiency comes far behind one's color, race, and passport of country of origin. in our day to day activities we come across many cases where our own Indian as if still under influence of slavery of this whites and Gora sahib licking their shoes and neglecting fellow Indian though working some time at Par with this Gori Chamadi. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: deekay singh To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Ms. Kamlesh Behl issue: to Rajenderji Dear Mahendra and Rupa, It is indeed disgusting when Indians in developed countries call Indians in India chor and that India is bad country. But I think those emotions come from these people's disgust too. Disgust about indian political system, disgust about corruption in every walk of life, and disgust about harassement from indian officers and clerks to fellow Indian. Disgust about Indians in India giving more importance to foreigners ( Gora sahibs) and utter contempt to another Indian whether he is coming from UK or USA or from any part of India. Haven't you seen this kind of mal treatment of Indians in India before the gora sahibs at every tourist place in India or any railway station or airport. This is a vicious cycle which is breeding more contempt for Indians from another Indian. So I do not know whom to blame. The Indian abroad or the Indian in India? Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Mahendra What you said in Gujrati " Tamacho marine gaal laal rakhvano" There is a specific term used for them in UK ie. what we call here in west-world to some Indians/Asians is "Coconut"!! What that means is that they look "brown" from out side but act "white" from in-side!! We have many (un-fortunately for us Indians) who are even ashamed to be called Indians!! I have come across quite a few who would say things like " Indians are chor" and Indians are this n that, India is dirty country and India is bad country n so on and to my surprise being Indians them selves!! As a very proud Indian what I fail to understand is that how one can be ashamed of one's origins?! Disgusting isn't it?!! Regards Rupaba Mahendra Rana <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Rajinder Thanks for bringing that issue to all of us.What we can say that even the british govt.had openly accepted racism against asians in uk and they have formed some committee too. I also seen some news regarding this so how your friend can say that they are treating fairly with indians !!! Dear most of them are acts in just "tamacho marine gaal laal rakhvo " .many of us feels some proud if they have some whitish friends !!!! still we have many persons around us to whom this whitish peoples uses by awarding "Raw Shaheb or some other awards just to sing their 'pipudi' (whitish prasing) I only can suggest your frnd to leave his original nationality and let down himself in the feets of some whitish !!! Only we indians have such kind of worst mentality who thinks better interest of other community rather then our own !!!!! . with regards Mahendra Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Rajinderji Jai Shri Mahadev First of all, thank you for your mail below and secondly I am not at all upset but on da contrary happy that you asked me this question coz i was already aware of the fact that this is what will be asked or rather accused. When I started to build the FAQs (Frequently asked question's) for the Kamlesh 's site I was looking at this the most basic of all counter claim so northing new to us. See to begin with as woman who had personally fought 2 cases of Racism and 1 sexism (i.e woman v/s man) and having taken the big and old organisation to the doors of a court I know it too well that this is what some will say coz they do not have any strong evidence otherwise!! I must make it very clear from the out set that i have joined the Justice for Kamlesh Bahl campaign because i do not have any doubts what so ever that kamlesh has a legitimate grievances. Also i am thoroughly convinced of the facts and proud that kamlesh is taking steps to fight the injustice not just for herself but for the ethnic community at large and it is not a case of sour grapes that has been suggested by an analogy with the Azaharuddin issue. To take on da establishment at this scale one has to have guts which not many can do!! and specially an Asian woman in a foreign country!!

Shriman Magleshwarji, For the information of you and many member for that Dr. Jayendrasinhji Jadeja is most respected community gem and is quite senior in age ( i think around 48 yrs, i m not sure , i m guessing by some of my 20 years back involvment with him for some of his community related activities ) than many members over here. He is proffessor and head of Department in State Government Medical College and is President of GRYS - Gujarat Rajput Yuvak Sangh which again is instrumental in many of Rajput Community activities and have good political circles in all leading political parties to be used for welfare of Rajput causes. One out of many to count is presently he is instrumental in gearing up Project of Rajput Girls Hostel at cost of Rs.1.2 crores in Rajkot city treated as capital of Saurashtra region having all academic courses available to pursue higher edjucation in either of field or faculty. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: Mr mangleshwar singh To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] Haardik Dhanyavaad from Mangleshwar to Jayendrasinh Ji and All members Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji Sader Namaskaar Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere lieye resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap mujhey seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge(yah meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani bhawnaaon ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. Jayendrasinh Ji Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me rah kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar Delhi,India rasinh Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, jai mataji. address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: At.Vankaner. dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. phone:02828-220000. Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada dam.] He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I will let u know the phone no[at present don't remember.] thanks dr.jmjadeja --- Mr mangleshwar singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > Thanks & Regards, > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > Delhi > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > Jai mataji. > Few organisations which are active & in live > contacts, > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > india.But then most of them are just "paper > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > to entre names only after confirming the real > existence. > National Level organisations: > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > This is the most credible national level > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > This is the break-away group of no.1 > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > exists > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > of > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > in > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > State-level organisations > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > reality is different. > State-level organisations: > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > 2]Himachal pradesh. > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > Branches of both national level 1,2 > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > don't know.pl.find out. > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > are > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > rajput > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > school.etc. > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > Natwarsinhhji > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > bhati.It > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > sabha.mainly in three districts. > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > other > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > may be active only in one district. > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > gujrat,all > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > got > good education since 50 years. before one > decade,two > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > at > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > been declared as donations by donors for this > project. > city level & district level organisations are many. > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > Gujt > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sir, > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > Singh Zala? > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > to > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > entry > > as I suggested? > > > > Regards, > > Snjiv Singh. > > [email protected] > > > > sayvari <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi sanjeev, > > > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > > regards to > > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had > once > > corresponded with > > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > > interested in developing > > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > > years back. While > > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of > Santacruz > > he knows this > > guy. > > > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > > school/s at his > > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > > you. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sayvari > > > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > > <gi_singh@y...> > > wrote: > > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > > Details/Profile). > > > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > > > (local/state/national/international) please let me > > know about their > > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > > info to add to the > > website I'm working on. > > > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour > to > > me. Please write > > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > Snjiv Singh

Aaderneey Jayendrasinh Ji Sader Namaskaar Sabse pahale aap mera Haardik Dhanyavaad sweekar kijiye jankaaree dene ke liye. Tatpaschaat aap se prarthana karunga ki aap mere lieye resp. shabd ka prayog na kare kyoki aap mere sammaneey hai aap mujhey seedhey mere naam se sambodhit karen kyoki aap mujhse bade honge(yah meri kalpana hai). Mai hindi me aap ke mail ka jawab se raha hun kyoki english me mera haath tang hai jiske karan mai apani bhawnaaon ko prakat nahi kar paa raha tha. Jayendrasinh Ji Mai 12 saal tak Allahabad me hee raha hun tatha yahi se apani shiksha grahan kiya hun,Allahabad mera Janm district hai tatha is samay mai apani jivikoparjan ke liye Delhi me hun atah ab mai aap logo jaise ghyani tatha madadgaar pravriti ke logo ke sampark me rah kar Apani tatha apane Rajpoot samaj ke vikash me samlit hona chahta hun. Aap se punh aagrah karna chahunga ki Sri Bhola singh ji ka contact no ya fir Delhi ke aas-paas mai kis-se mil sakata hun batayen. Aaa tatha sabhi group membero ko Hardik Dhayavaad. Mangleshwar Singh Gahrwar Delhi,India rasinh Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Resp.Mangleshwarsinhji, jai mataji. address of Yuvraj Digvijaysinhji: At.Vankaner. dist.Surendranagar,Gujrat. phone:02828-220000. Thakur Bholasinghji[ EX-MLA] STAYING AT Allahabad.He has a very big college campus. Also he owns a very prestigeous consruction company named.Bholasingh-jayprakash associates.[who had a contract of 600 crores in construction of Narmada dam.] He also has a office at :vasantkunj in new delhi.[ i have seen it but don't remember the bunglow number.I will let u know the phone no[at present don't remember.] thanks dr.jmjadeja --- Mr mangleshwar singh <manglesh_7@@yahoo.com> wrote: > Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI > I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji > and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha > Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. > Thanks & Regards, > Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar > Delhi > > > > Jayendrasinh Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > Jai mataji. > Few organisations which are active & in live > contacts, > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > india.But then most of them are just "paper > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > to entre names only after confirming the real > existence. > National Level organisations: > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > This is the most credible national level > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > This is the break-away group of no.1 > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > exists > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > of > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > in > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > State-level organisations > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > reality is different. > State-level organisations: > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > 2]Himachal pradesh. > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > Branches of both national level 1,2 > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > don't know.pl.find out. > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > are > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > rajput > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > school.etc. > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > Natwarsinhhji > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > bhati.It > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > sabha.mainly in three districts. > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > other > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > may be active only in one district. > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > gujrat,all > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > got > good education since 50 years. before one > decade,two > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > at > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > been declared as donations by donors for this > project. > city level & district level organisations are many. > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > Gujt > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sir, > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > Singh Zala? > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > to > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > entry > > as I suggested? > > > > Regards, > > Snjiv Singh. > > [email protected] > > > > sayvari <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi sanjeev, > > > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > > regards to > > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had > once > > corresponded with > > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > > interested in developing > > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > > years back. While > > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of > Santacruz > > he knows this > > guy. > > > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > > school/s at his > > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > > you. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sayvari > > > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > > <gi_singh@y...> > > wrote: > > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > > Details/Profile). > > > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > > > (local/state/national/international) please let me > > know about their

Dear Mahendra and Rupa, It is indeed disgusting when Indians in developed countries call Indians in India chor and that India is bad country. But I think those emotions come from these people's disgust too. Disgust about indian political system, disgust about corruption in every walk of life, and disgust about harassement from indian officers and clerks to fellow Indian. Disgust about Indians in India giving more importance to foreigners ( Gora sahibs) and utter contempt to another Indian whether he is coming from UK or USA or from any part of India. Haven't you seen this kind of mal treatment of Indians in India before the gora sahibs at every tourist place in India or any railway station or airport. This is a vicious cycle which is breeding more contempt for Indians from another Indian. So I do not know whom to blame. The Indian abroad or the Indian in India? Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Mahendra What you said in Gujrati " Tamacho marine gaal laal rakhvano" There is a specific term used for them in UK ie. what we call here in west-world to some Indians/Asians is "Coconut"!! What that means is that they look "brown" from out side but act "white" from in-side!! We have many (un-fortunately for us Indians) who are even ashamed to be called Indians!! I have come across quite a few who would say things like " Indians are chor" and Indians are this n that, India is dirty country and India is bad country n so on and to my surprise being Indians them selves!! As a very proud Indian what I fail to understand is that how one can be ashamed of one's origins?! Disgusting isn't it?!! Regards Rupaba Mahendra Rana <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Rajinder Thanks for bringing that issue to all of us.What we can say that even the british govt.had openly accepted racism against asians in uk and they have formed some committee too. I also seen some news regarding this so how your friend can say that they are treating fairly with indians !!! Dear most of them are acts in just "tamacho marine gaal laal rakhvo " .many of us feels some proud if they have some whitish friends !!!! still we have many persons around us to whom this whitish peoples uses by awarding "Raw Shaheb or some other awards just to sing their 'pipudi' (whitish prasing) I only can suggest your frnd to leave his original nationality and let down himself in the feets of some whitish !!! Only we indians have such kind of worst mentality who thinks better interest of other community rather then our own !!!!! . with regards Mahendra Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Rajinderji Jai Shri Mahadev First of all, thank you for your mail below and secondly I am not at all upset but on da contrary happy that you asked me this question coz i was already aware of the fact that this is what will be asked or rather accused. When I started to build the FAQs (Frequently asked question's) for the Kamlesh 's site I was looking at this the most basic of all counter claim so northing new to us. See to begin with as woman who had personally fought 2 cases of Racism and 1 sexism (i.e woman v/s man) and having taken the big and old organisation to the doors of a court I know it too well that this is what some will say coz they do not have any strong evidence otherwise!! I must make it very clear from the out set that i have joined the Justice for Kamlesh Bahl campaign because i do not have any doubts what so ever that kamlesh has a legitimate grievances. Also i am thoroughly convinced of the facts and proud that kamlesh is taking steps to fight the injustice not just for herself but for the ethnic community at large and it is not a case of sour grapes that has been suggested by an analogy with the Azaharuddin issue. To take on da establishment at this scale one has to have guts which not many can do!! and specially an Asian woman in a foreign country!!

Hi all, this is Prashant from tallahassee, florida. super excited to be in rajput group and is gonna be wonderful to know many people. I know few peoples on member list and even one of the group moderator alok chauhan from stoney brook. I would appreciate if i can get the phone number of all those staying in florida and other states of u.s. I would be more then happy to ring them up amd talk to them . Thanks, Prashant

Well said Ishawarsa...........Thanks for the mail... Sujan Shekhawat --- In [email protected], Ishwar S Shekhawat <shekhaji@y...> wrote: > > My beloved members! > > Jai Mataji, > > I have received four/five personal mails after my message about "Trend in career and Jobs". Many of them are disillusioned and dejected. I am writing this message for those beloved young members who wrote to me. > > > > Of course, Life in society today is becoming increasingly more competitive. This is also reflected in the educational system, where admission to select courses has become almost impossible. At the time of the session year, university campuses are normally buzzing with activity. There is excitement and tension in the year. The human quest for power, prestige and wealth is visible in the student aspirants. The courses that offer the best opportunities are most sought after. For, a good career means a comfortable life. > > > > Career counselors on the campuses guide and help young students to make the right choices, taking into account their aptitude and inclination. Despite the counseling, most students prefer to opt for only those courses and subjects that hold the promise of a bright future. Their ultimate goal is the "good life". Here, where the dejection starts. > > > > There are others, who, for various reasons, do not seek to study further. Many choose to enter their family vocation. Rests go haywire. But there is something that is common to both the categories of seekers. They have dreams – of a happy future. > > However, there's a catch. Not all students-aspirants will get the course of their choice. There are bound to be disappointments since the demand for seats is much more than the availability. But setbacks and lamentations are not the preserve of disappointed students. Some of those who get to realize their ambitions are equally disillusioned. Here is catchword for the rest haywire students. > > We cry over what we lose – often, we also cry over what we gain. > > TWO LITTLE TEAR DROPS WERE FLOATING DOWN THE RIVER OF LIFE. ONE TEARDROP ASKED OF ANOTHER; WHO ARE YOU? IT ANSWERED: "I WAS SHED BY A GIRL WHO LOVED A MAN AND LOST HIM. AND WHO ARE YOU?" REPLIED THE FIRST TEAR DROP; "WELL, I WAS SHED BY THE GIRLWHO GOT HIM". > > So if we are a disappointed student who failed to get admitted to the course of your choice, don't be disillusioned/disheartened. You might not realize your dreams of becoming a doctor, engineer or IT professional, but that doesn't mean that you are unfit for any other profession or vocation. Whatever your field of work, take interest in it. Work diligently to the best of your ability. Take pride in your work. > > To achieve success, energy, dedication, determination, single- mindedness and perseverance are vitally important. > > Cheer up my beloved bro/sis. > > Good Luck! > > Ishwar S Shekhawat >

Dear Mahendra What you said in Gujrati " Tamacho marine gaal laal rakhvano" There is a specific term used for them in UK ie. what we call here in west-world to some Indians/Asians is "Coconut"!! What that means is that they look "brown" from out side but act "white" from in-side!! We have many (un-fortunately for us Indians) who are even ashamed to be called Indians!! I have come across quite a few who would say things like " Indians are chor" and Indians are this n that, India is dirty country and India is bad country n so on and to my surprise being Indians them selves!! As a very proud Indian what I fail to understand is that how one can be ashamed of one's origins?! Disgusting isn't it?!! Regards Rupaba Mahendra Rana <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Rajinder Thanks for bringing that issue to all of us.What we can say that even the british govt.had openly accepted racism against asians in uk and they have formed some committee too. I also seen some news regarding this so how your friend can say that they are treating fairly with indians !!! Dear most of them are acts in just "tamacho marine gaal laal rakhvo " .many of us feels some proud if they have some whitish friends !!!! still we have many persons around us to whom this whitish peoples uses by awarding "Raw Shaheb or some other awards just to sing their 'pipudi' (whitish prasing) I only can suggest your frnd to leave his original nationality and let down himself in the feets of some whitish !!! Only we indians have such kind of worst mentality who thinks better interest of other community rather then our own !!!!! . with regards Mahendra Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Rajinderji Jai Shri Mahadev First of all, thank you for your mail below and secondly I am not at all upset but on da contrary happy that you asked me this question coz i was already aware of the fact that this is what will be asked or rather accused. When I started to build the FAQs (Frequently asked question's) for the Kamlesh 's site I was looking at this the most basic of all counter claim so northing new to us. See to begin with as woman who had personally fought 2 cases of Racism and 1 sexism (i.e woman v/s man) and having taken the big and old organisation to the doors of a court I know it too well that this is what some will say coz they do not have any strong evidence otherwise!! I must make it very clear from the out set that i have joined the Justice for Kamlesh Bahl campaign because i do not have any doubts what so ever that kamlesh has a legitimate grievances. Also i am thoroughly convinced of the facts and proud that kamlesh is taking steps to fight the injustice not just for herself but for the ethnic community at large and it is not a case of sour grapes that has been suggested by an analogy with the Azaharuddin issue. To take on da establishment at this scale one has to have guts which not many can do!! and specially an Asian woman in a foreign country!!

There was a young student-archer who reached such proficiency in his art that he could shoot an arrow into a tree and then cleave that arrow into two with the next shot. He began to boast that he was a greater archer than his guru. One day his guru, a venerable old man in his 70's, asked the youth to accompany him on a trip across the hills. The journey was uneventful until they came to a deep chasm. A single log spanned the chasm. The guru walked down to the centre of the log, unshouldered his bow and taking an arrow shot it into a tree on the other side. His next shot cleaved the first arrow into two. "Now it's your turn," he said, walking back to where his student was standing. The youth stepped gingerly on the log and very slowly and carefully made his way to the middle. But his heart was in his mouth. He knew that if he lost his footing, he would plunge to his death. His hands trembled as he strung an arrow into his bow. Preoccupied with the danger he was in, he found it hard to focus on the target. Consequently when he let go of the arrow, it missed the tree altogether. Whimpering, he turned around. "Help me!" he shouted to his guru. "I'll fall!" The old man walked up to him, took his hand and stepping backwards led him to safety. Neither of them said a word on the return journey but the boy had much to think about. He had realised that to be a master of his art it was not enough to know how to control the bow, he had to learn how to control his mind too. Do you know how to control your mind?? Regards n Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja

Dear Rajinder, You along with this posting also in second postings you mentioned of Jat, Shikh and say like of Dalit, etc., their unity and political strength and same manner camping of Kamlesh Bahl in various media can be equated exactly with such out come. See we all know our history dalits were big victims of social set up in society of our Hindu history but today same people are so united and supported politically, which again can be criticized for the matter it is divisions of society and exploitation of systems by some few. same here if kamlesh bahl will not fight strongly, though may have little side effect of indirect boosting again to racism, tomorrow many more and more cases will continue and these racist people will continue to enjoy set up. But after such strong fight of Kamlesh Bahl they will not so openly dare to repeat or indirectly government also will not wake up. Kamlesh Bahl is not fighting for her self but for the cause. Have you read out utterances of judge in court while awarding rulings? He spoke some thing like what her hands are not chopped of by this rulings and she should not react in the manner and you and your friend too is going in same direction. If they have strong lobbing pressure judge would not even to dare to speak such things or will pass out any such rulings. We in India have so many such similar things in front of us. How our judiciary acts favoring certain non sense though it is totally against basics of justice system. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: Rupa Jadeja To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Ms. Kamlesh Behl issue: to Rajenderji Dear Rajinderji Jai Shri Mahadev First of all, thank you for your mail below and secondly I am not at all upset but on da contrary happy that you asked me this question coz i was already aware of the fact that this is what will be asked or rather accused. When I started to build the FAQs (Frequently asked question's) for the Kamlesh 's site I was looking at this the most basic of all counter claim so northing new to us. See to begin with as woman who had personally fought 2 cases of Racism and 1 sexism (i.e woman v/s man) and having taken the big and old organisation to the doors of a court I know it too well that this is what some will say coz they do not have any strong evidence otherwise!! I must make it very clear from the out set that i have joined the Justice for Kamlesh Bahl campaign because i do not have any doubts what so ever that kamlesh has a legitimate grievances. Also i am thoroughly convinced of the facts and proud that kamlesh is taking steps to fight the injustice not just for herself but for the ethnic community at large and it is not a case of sour grapes that has been suggested by an analogy with the Azaharuddin issue. To take on da establishment at this scale one has to have guts which not many can do!! and specially an Asian woman in a foreign country!! To answer your question so that you will be able to answer your friend more confidently and convincingly please read following carefully... 1) Kamlesh only made accusations of Racism and Sexism when she had given the Law Soc every opportunity to face the situation and sort it out amicably "in-house." 2) Previous experiences of discrimination had formed Kamlesh's opinion of its inhumanity and she always talked about it openly, e.g. when she was first appointed to head the EOC. 3)She had received hate mail and death threats from racists at the EOC but did not pursue them (from within the EOC) at the time as she did not want to chase those who hid in the shadows and in any case she would have been accused of pursuing her own agenda at public (EOC) expense. 4) With the law Soc she has funded it personally. Not even from EOC or CRE purses. Advised to do so by many eminent white people: Cherie Blair was first QC. David Hunt, minister in John Majors govt gave evidence on her behalf at the Tribunal case and demolished the Law Soc's case then. Society of Black Lawyers saw the signs of racism at work and alerted the Law Soc of it publicly before Kamlesh accused them. Why does Imran Khan (Stephen Lawrence lawyer) support her publicly. 5) True or not?Just look up the details on www.aboutkamlesh.org and associated media articles. 6) Why is the Law Soc funding Robert Sayer (Ex-president of Law society and one of the main person against whom kamlesh is fighting) when he has already been arrested for perverting the course of justice? (THE LAW SOCIETY, not the MAFIA!!!) Azaruddin was caught out and cried foul. Kamlesh held back from crying foul until there was no option left. He committed a criminal act. Kamlesh did not and has not. However Sayer has been arrested on criminal charges but the Law Soc prefers to turn a blind eye. one law for the whites, another for the blacks. History is peppered with stories of persecution of those non whites who show strength and resolve in the face of injustice, often at great personal cost to themselves. If the system was not to be challenged and shown up for what it is, then Mandela would have remained a terrorist incarcerated at Robbin Island. Gandhiji would have continued practising for the second class Indian community quietly, not challenging the racist pass laws or later moving onto the bigger picture of struggling for Independence for India despite all the risks. Incidentally, it is inaccurate to describe Kamlesh as an insider who made it to the top. She made it to the top of the EOC after an open selection process as an outsider. At the Law Soc she was elected by the profession for her views and talents, through the ballot box. She was elected democratically but ejected by an unholy alliance of bigots and discriminators. I hope i am able to answer your questions and clear your doubts and suggest you do your best to get as much as possible for you involvement from ppl and different organisations if you want be a part of truth finding justice seeking campaign my dear bro!! :-) Jay Mataji to all Rupaba jai shri mahadev dear rupaji this mail is concerning yours mail which you had sent regarding ms. kamlesh behl.i forwarded this mail to some of the groups of which i am member along with this group. on one such group , i got this reply from a person named rajesh pathania, a solicitor by job in london, which says Its been a while since I have accessed my mails, I had an accident so was in the Hospital. Anyhow, I am much better now. How are things ? Dont post this mail on the channel. The reason I am mailing is because the Kamlesh Behl issue has been rocking the British legal establishment for some while now, however what rajinder has forwarded is factually incorrect and tells just one side of the story. Kamlesh Behl, is not the angel she has been cut out to be, after all if she made it to the top, there could not have been that great a prejudice against Indians. To cry wolf ie racism at the drop of a hat makes people even more racist. I will send in an email shortly in this regard. I have done some research too, will send it in soon. You will appreciate that I have been away for quite a while so, will need sometime. Best wishes, Rajesh rupaji this mail makes me think that whether the case of kamleshji is true one or not. as that guy also works in london, i think in legal works, and is north indian rajput(himachali).also i discussed this with my freinds about this and they also referred that sometimes people point to their minority or racial status when they are accused. they gave me the example of mh.azaharuddin, india cricket captain, who creid horse over his being of minority , when he was caught on match fixing charges. so plz rupaji clear the doubts about this case, as i donot know whether this case is genuine and if racial discrimination exist then how she could reach such a high position, in england. hope you do not take this in negative sense.as i am asking what i was asked . jai shri mahadev Rajinder Singh Thakur.. III Year (B.E) .. Electronics and Electrical Communication.. PUNJAB ENGINEERING COLLEGE.. CHANDIGARH

Dear Mahendra and all friend particularly Dr. Jayendrasinhji,

As Sanjeev is working very hard and sincerely for the site so we are not for
discouraging or demoralizing him in any manner but we must have tab to cross
check each and every content while writing some thing publically that too
from site which is owned by our esteemed organization like GRYS which again
is instrumental for political lobbing us and again is Corley connected with
many other umbrella of organizations like RIC / WOR /RANA / RSUK and many
more. Any thing written from such site though may be views and opinions of
one individual but definitely it can spread wrong signal in present
political and social scenario and can even harm negatively image of entire
community for ignorance of one individual. I have no right nor don't know
much about arrangement and coordination between Sanjeev and others before
uploading or changing original content of
Site www.rajputindia.com . As Mahendra has raised points really requires to
be discussed. As you all know media and Bollywood are not leaving any chance
to portray our negativity and again may get good supportive stuuff to
exploit the things.

Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji
Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mahendra Rana" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Rajput India.com

Dear Sanjeev,

     Yesterday I gone to the site www.rajputindia.com and seen the
kshatriyadharm section there.I wants to share my views regarding this.I
thinks that our sole aim for such website is to create and promote a very
good and positive image of Rajputs/Kshatriys but you are well aware that
sometimes even one or two statements though put innocently spreads a
negative image and mostly peoples catch this negative side and then ignores
99% positive side.

   First of all let me know that there is statements "The kshatriyas are
trained for killing in the forest. A kshatriya would go into the forest and
challenge a tiger face to face and fight with the tiger with his sword. When
the tiger was killed, it would be offered the royal order of cremation. This
system has been followed even up to the present day by the kshatriya kings
of Jaipur state" Dear after reading this Menka Gandhi and other animal
protectors will make a 'morcha ' against us(just kidding) i thinks that even
if there are some ugly or bad things we can produce it in some more bette
way so that it will create a positive image. e.g. you can write there as "
Kshatriy were duty bound to protect cows and other live animals of villagers
and even to protect helpless,weak innocents persons of their states from
wild animals like tigers,lions and they some dares to do all this even
without a weapon too.

   The other statemetns is "Considering your specific duty as a kshatriya,
you should know that there is no better engagement for you than fighting on
religious principles; and so there is no need for hesitation." in this
todays pshedo secularist time if we will talk such things then these persons
will start crying and we will be considered as "communal" if we are muslim
then there is no problme in writing such things. all will keep a big mum
against muslims.

    Well, I thinks that at the ancient time "Dharm' had a very broad meaning
in all sense wether it was a RAJ DHARM (not of our Bajpayee's dhotia dharm)
or a kshatriya Dharm. it was not restricted to some particular religeous
dharm e.g. hindu,muslim or some others. Dharm at that time reveals to
specific duties of each and every persons and particular society and even
for raja too there was his dharm(duties) and they all were expected to
follow their that dharm(duties) all these in no way meant to religeous sense
!!!

    Similarly there is lots of misunderstanding regarding speechs of LORD
KRISHNA and the great book GEETA. i thinks u have only translated that
slocks on word by word and not by meaning by meaning. i will go further step
that these shlocks should be considered in accordance to time to time. for
e.g. if something is considered in today's time as sin or antisocial purpose
then the true meaning of the original shlok of bhagwad Geeta should be
considered in some other positive way. for e.g. there is such statement "

“The kshatriya’s duty is to protect the citizens from all kinds of
difficulties, and for that reason he has to apply violence in suitable cases
for law and order. Therefore he has to conquer the soldiers of inimical
kings, and thus, with religious principles, he should rule over the world" I
thinks u can revels this statement in such a manner

" The kshartiya's duty is to protect other citizens from all kind of
difficulties and for this reason he/she should not see wether the oppositer
or culprits is a highly placed/inflenced person or they are his/her
relatives or they are powerful.A kshatrya has to fight against any kind of
injustice/anti social persons.

   Finally "In the battlefield, a king or kshatriya, while fighting another
king envious of him, is eligible for achieving heavenly planets after death,
as the brahmanas also attain the heavenly planets by sacrificing animals in
the sacrificial fire.” Therefore, killing on the battlefield on religious
principles and killing animals in the sacrificial fire are not at all
considered to be acts of violence, because everyone is benefited by the
religious principles involved. The animal sacrificed gets a human life
immediately without undergoing the gradual evolutionary process from one
form to another, and the kshatriyas killed on the battlefield also attain
the heavenly planets as do the brahmanas who attain them by offering
sacrifice"

   Dear we have pota and maaco and so many acts underwhich this kind of
statements are consideres as a terrorist act or encouraging terror !!!
(just kidding) but you can avoid this kind of statements from their cause
muslimes and those who eats beef they will also argue that by killing cows
and animals they are helping them to get a human life !!!

    I am sorry its too long but still there is lots of things which are not
fair in the present context of time and it all will reavels some negative
image of rajputs/geetas and so on. it needs a lots of disucussion and dts
why i am putting this entire chapter in public on the group rather then
personally emailing you. i thinks other learned memebrs can guide us more in
this regards.esp. Krishnasinhji Gohil and other those who have studid
"Geeta' and those who have studid thoroughly and scintifically the rajput
and hindu history

   Kind Regards

   Mahendra Rana

Dear Rajinder Thanks for bringing that issue to all of us.What we can say that even the british govt.had openly accepted racism against asians in uk and they have formed some committee too. I also seen some news regarding this so how your friend can say that they are treating fairly with indians !!! Dear most of them are acts in just "tamacho marine gaal laal rakhvo " .many of us feels some proud if they have some whitish friends !!!! still we have many persons around us to whom this whitish peoples uses by awarding "Raw Shaheb or some other awards just to sing their 'pipudi' (whitish prasing) I only can suggest your frnd to leave his original nationality and let down himself in the feets of some whitish !!! Only we indians have such kind of worst mentality who thinks better interest of other community rather then our own !!!!! . with regards Mahendra Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Rajinderji Jai Shri Mahadev First of all, thank you for your mail below and secondly I am not at all upset but on da contrary happy that you asked me this question coz i was already aware of the fact that this is what will be asked or rather accused. When I started to build the FAQs (Frequently asked question's) for the Kamlesh 's site I was looking at this the most basic of all counter claim so northing new to us. See to begin with as woman who had personally fought 2 cases of Racism and 1 sexism (i.e woman v/s man) and having taken the big and old organisation to the doors of a court I know it too well that this is what some will say coz they do not have any strong evidence otherwise!! I must make it very clear from the out set that i have joined the Justice for Kamlesh Bahl campaign because i do not have any doubts what so ever that kamlesh has a legitimate grievances. Also i am thoroughly convinced of the facts and proud that kamlesh is taking steps to fight the injustice not just for herself but for the ethnic community at large and it is not a case of sour grapes that has been suggested by an analogy with the Azaharuddin issue. To take on da establishment at this scale one has to have guts which not many can do!! and specially an Asian woman in a foreign country!!

Dear Rajinderji Jai Shri Mahadev First of all, thank you for your mail below and secondly I am not at all upset but on da contrary happy that you asked me this question coz i was already aware of the fact that this is what will be asked or rather accused. When I started to build the FAQs (Frequently asked question's) for the Kamlesh 's site I was looking at this the most basic of all counter claim so northing new to us. See to begin with as woman who had personally fought 2 cases of Racism and 1 sexism (i.e woman v/s man) and having taken the big and old organisation to the doors of a court I know it too well that this is what some will say coz they do not have any strong evidence otherwise!! I must make it very clear from the out set that i have joined the Justice for Kamlesh Bahl campaign because i do not have any doubts what so ever that kamlesh has a legitimate grievances. Also i am thoroughly convinced of the facts and proud that kamlesh is taking steps to fight the injustice not just for herself but for the ethnic community at large and it is not a case of sour grapes that has been suggested by an analogy with the Azaharuddin issue. To take on da establishment at this scale one has to have guts which not many can do!! and specially an Asian woman in a foreign country!! To answer your question so that you will be able to answer your friend more confidently and convincingly please read following carefully... 1) Kamlesh only made accusations of Racism and Sexism when she had given the Law Soc every opportunity to face the situation and sort it out amicably "in-house." 2) Previous experiences of discrimination had formed Kamlesh's opinion of its inhumanity and she always talked about it openly, e.g. when she was first appointed to head the EOC. 3)She had received hate mail and death threats from racists at the EOC but did not pursue them (from within the EOC) at the time as she did not want to chase those who hid in the shadows and in any case she would have been accused of pursuing her own agenda at public (EOC) expense. 4) With the law Soc she has funded it personally. Not even from EOC or CRE purses. Advised to do so by many eminent white people: Cherie Blair was first QC. David Hunt, minister in John Majors govt gave evidence on her behalf at the Tribunal case and demolished the Law Soc's case then. Society of Black Lawyers saw the signs of racism at work and alerted the Law Soc of it publicly before Kamlesh accused them. Why does Imran Khan (Stephen Lawrence lawyer) support her publicly. 5) True or not?Just look up the details on www.aboutkamlesh.org and associated media articles. 6) Why is the Law Soc funding Robert Sayer (Ex-president of Law society and one of the main person against whom kamlesh is fighting) when he has already been arrested for perverting the course of justice? (THE LAW SOCIETY, not the MAFIA!!!) Azaruddin was caught out and cried foul. Kamlesh held back from crying foul until there was no option left. He committed a criminal act. Kamlesh did not and has not. However Sayer has been arrested on criminal charges but the Law Soc prefers to turn a blind eye. one law for the whites, another for the blacks. History is peppered with stories of persecution of those non whites who show strength and resolve in the face of injustice, often at great personal cost to themselves. If the system was not to be challenged and shown up for what it is, then Mandela would have remained a terrorist incarcerated at Robbin Island. Gandhiji would have continued practising for the second class Indian community quietly, not challenging the racist pass laws or later moving onto the bigger picture of struggling for Independence for India despite all the risks. Incidentally, it is inaccurate to describe Kamlesh as an insider who made it to the top. She made it to the top of the EOC after an open selection process as an outsider. At the Law Soc she was elected by the profession for her views and talents, through the ballot box. She was elected democratically but ejected by an unholy alliance of bigots and discriminators. I hope i am able to answer your questions and clear your doubts and suggest you do your best to get as much as possible for you involvement from ppl and different organisations if you want be a part of truth finding justice seeking campaign my dear bro!! :-) Jay Mataji to all Rupaba jai shri mahadev dear rupaji this mail is concerning yours mail which you had sent regarding ms. kamlesh behl.i forwarded this mail to some of the groups of which i am member along with this group. on one such group , i got this reply from a person named rajesh pathania, a solicitor by job in london, which says Its been a while since I have accessed my mails, I had an accident so was in the Hospital. Anyhow, I am much better now. How are things ? Dont post this mail on the channel. The reason I am mailing is because the Kamlesh Behl issue has been rocking the British legal establishment for some while now, however what rajinder has forwarded is factually incorrect and tells just one side of the story. Kamlesh Behl, is not the angel she has been cut out to be, after all if she made it to the top, there could not have been that great a prejudice against Indians. To cry wolf ie racism at the drop of a hat makes people even more racist. I will send in an email shortly in this regard. I have done some research too, will send it in soon. You will appreciate that I have been away for quite a while so, will need sometime. Best wishes, Rajesh rupaji this mail makes me think that whether the case of kamleshji is true one or not. as that guy also works in london, i think in legal works, and is north indian rajput(himachali).also i discussed this with my freinds about this and they also referred that sometimes people point to their minority or racial status when they are accused. they gave me the example of mh.azaharuddin, india cricket captain, who creid horse over his being of minority , when he was caught on match fixing charges. so plz rupaji clear the doubts about this case, as i donot know whether this case is genuine and if racial discrimination exist then how she could reach such a high position, in england. hope you do not take this in negative sense.as i am asking what i was asked . jai shri mahadev Rajinder Singh Thakur.. III Year (B.E) .. Electronics and Electrical Communication.. PUNJAB ENGINEERING COLLEGE.. CHANDIGARH..

Dear Sanjeev,

     Yesterday I gone to the site www.rajputindia.com and seen the kshatriyadharm section there.I wants to share my views regarding this.I thinks that our sole aim for such website is to create and promote a very good and positive image of Rajputs/Kshatriys but you are well aware that sometimes even one or two statements though put innocently spreads a negative image and mostly peoples catch this negative side and then ignores 99% positive side.

   First of all let me know that there is statements "The kshatriyas are trained for killing in the forest. A kshatriya would go into the forest and challenge a tiger face to face and fight with the tiger with his sword. When the tiger was killed, it would be offered the royal order of cremation. This system has been followed even up to the present day by the kshatriya kings of Jaipur state" Dear after reading this Menka Gandhi and other animal protectors will make a 'morcha ' against us(just kidding) i thinks that even if there are some ugly or bad things we can produce it in some more bette way so that it will create a positive image. e.g. you can write there as " Kshatriy were duty bound to protect cows and other live animals of villagers and even to protect helpless,weak innocents persons of their states from wild animals like tigers,lions and they some dares to do all this even without a weapon too.

   The other statemetns is "Considering your specific duty as a kshatriya, you should know that there is no better engagement for you than fighting on religious principles; and so there is no need for hesitation." in this todays pshedo secularist time if we will talk such things then these persons will start crying and we will be considered as "communal" if we are muslim then there is no problme in writing such things. all will keep a big mum against muslims.

    Well, I thinks that at the ancient time "Dharm' had a very broad meaning in all sense wether it was a RAJ DHARM (not of our Bajpayee's dhotia dharm) or a kshatriya Dharm. it was not restricted to some particular religeous dharm e.g. hindu,muslim or some others. Dharm at that time reveals to specific duties of each and every persons and particular society and even for raja too there was his dharm(duties) and they all were expected to follow their that dharm(duties) all these in no way meant to religeous sense !!!

    Similarly there is lots of misunderstanding regarding speechs of LORD KRISHNA and the great book GEETA. i thinks u have only translated that slocks on word by word and not by meaning by meaning. i will go further step that these shlocks should be considered in accordance to time to time. for e.g. if something is considered in today's time as sin or antisocial purpose then the true meaning of the original shlok of bhagwad Geeta should be considered in some other positive way. for e.g. there is such statement "

“The kshatriya’s duty is to protect the citizens from all kinds of difficulties, and for that reason he has to apply violence in suitable cases for law and order. Therefore he has to conquer the soldiers of inimical kings, and thus, with religious principles, he should rule over the world" I thinks u can revels this statement in such a manner

" The kshartiya's duty is to protect other citizens from all kind of difficulties and for this reason he/she should not see wether the oppositer or culprits is a highly placed/inflenced person or they are his/her relatives or they are powerful.A kshatrya has to fight against any kind of injustice/anti social persons.

   Finally "In the battlefield, a king or kshatriya, while fighting another king envious of him, is eligible for achieving heavenly planets after death, as the brahmanas also attain the heavenly planets by sacrificing animals in the sacrificial fire.” Therefore, killing on the battlefield on religious principles and killing animals in the sacrificial fire are not at all considered to be acts of violence, because everyone is benefited by the religious principles involved. The animal sacrificed gets a human life immediately without undergoing the gradual evolutionary process from one form to another, and the kshatriyas killed on the battlefield also attain the heavenly planets as do the brahmanas who attain them by offering sacrifice"

   Dear we have pota and maaco and so many acts underwhich this kind of statements are consideres as a terrorist act or encouraging terror !!! (just kidding) but you can avoid this kind of statements from their cause muslimes and those who eats beef they will also argue that by killing cows and animals they are helping them to get a human life !!!

    I am sorry its too long but still there is lots of things which are not fair in the present context of time and it all will reavels some negative image of rajputs/geetas and so on. it needs a lots of disucussion and dts why i am putting this entire chapter in public on the group rather then personally emailing you. i thinks other learned memebrs can guide us more in this regards.esp. Krishnasinhji Gohil and other those who have studid "Geeta' and those who have studid thoroughly and scintifically the rajput and hindu history

   Kind Regards

   Mahendra Rana

Respected DR.JAYENDRASINH JI I want to know contact no. of Yuvraj digvijaysinhji and Working president Akhil Bhrtiya Kshatriya Maha Sabha Bholasinghji Pl if posible provide me. Thanks & Regards, Mangleshwar Singh Gaharwar Delhi Jayendrasinh Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, Jai mataji. Few organisations which are active & in live contacts, That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we have a list of about 800 organisations from all over india.But then most of them are just "paper organisations"!Majority of such organisations have ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise to entre names only after confirming the real existence. National Level organisations: 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur This is the most credible national level organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. This is the break-away group of no.1 organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but exists mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity of "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar in young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. State-level organisations Many others claim to exist at national level,but reality is different. State-level organisations: 1]Jammu & kashhmir: Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. 2]Himachal pradesh. Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. 3]Uttar-pradesh: Branches of both national level 1,2 organisations.other organisations if they exist,I don't know.pl.find out. 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations are also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area rajput samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi school.etc. 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late Natwarsinhhji solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 DISTRICTS MAINLY. Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh bhati.It is a break-away group of previous kshtriya sabha.mainly in three districts. Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. These are the only state-wise organisations.few other also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they may be active only in one district. There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in gujrat,all are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have got good education since 50 years. before one decade,two rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh at Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have been declared as donations by donors for this project. city level & district level organisations are many. u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA Gujt --- Singh Sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: > Sir, > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > Singh Zala? > > I badly need all this information as the site is to > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the entry > as I suggested? > > Regards, > Snjiv Singh. > [email protected] > > sayvari <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi sanjeev, > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > regards to > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had once > corresponded with > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > interested in developing > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > years back. While > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of Santacruz > he knows this > guy. > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > school/s at his > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > you. > > Regards, > > Sayvari > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > <gi_singh@y...> > wrote: > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > Details/Profile). > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > (local/state/national/international) please let me > know about their > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > info to add to the > website I'm working on. > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour to > me. Please write > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Snjiv Singh > >

Eee hamar rupwa ta bahutai neek story likhleba. Kauno Kauno bachcha log ta padhe ke rowai lagle. Very emotional indeed. Any way, to come to the main question of the story " was all that worth it?" My reply to this question is an emphatic yes. Because in his journey from India to US and back to India this guy has learned a lot. Was able to perform his Karma and obtained his wisdome even though he could add only one extra bedroom than his father after so much emotional turmoil and toil. Materialistically, this symbolizes progress, how so ever small one may think, but this guy was able to atleast add to what his father hasleft for him. Worth doing rather than spoiling whatever our ancestors have left for us. Also, he could go through so many priceless emotions because of these circumstances and came out humble and wise man. His father's death without being able to see their grand children adds up to the emotionalism but there is always some price to be paid for a journey that involves a life time and doing one's Karma. Death for every one is enevitable. And to quote Ghalib " hazaron khwahishe eisy ke har khwahish pe dam nikale. So there will alwyas be some khwahishe ( desires ) that will go unfulfilled in every persons life. Besides that he performed his karma, learned his lessons and that is also very important. Those experiences are priceless even though he could not fullfill his fathers dream, because in ultimate analysis we all are dead men and he too will die may be with his own unfullfilled dreams. But don't we have couple of life times to come back on this earth and finish what we could not due to limitations of a body vehicle. " Hum dum yehi hai rah gujre yaar khush phiran, Gujre hai lakh baar isi kehkansha se hum". So in the end our good karma and good experiences are worth of anyhtings though the "kasak" of not being able to fulfill the desires of his father will haunt him for long and that is the price we all have to pay for varried experiences and good karma of making this earth better place to live. Dinesh Singh Naruka > One Extra Bedroom !!! > > This is worth reading > > As the dream of most parents I had acquired a degree > in software > > Engineering and joined a company based in USA the > land of braves and > opportunity. When I arrived in the USA, it was as if > a dream had come > true. > > > Here at last I was in the place where I want to be. > I decided I would be > staying in this country for about Five years in > which time, I would have > earned enough money to settle down in India. My > father was a government employee and after his > retirement, the only asset he could acquire was a > decent one bedroom flat. I wanted to do some thing > more than him. I started feeling home sick and > lonely as the time passed. I used to call home and > speak to my parents every week using cheap > international phone cards. > > Two years passed, two years of Burgers at Mac > Donald's and pizzas and discos and 2 years watching > the foreign exchange rate getting happy whenever the > Rupee value went down. Finally I decided to get > married. Told my parents that I have only 10 days > off and everything must be done within these 10 > days. I got my ticket booked in the cheapest flight. > Was jubilant and was actually enjoying shopping for > gifts for all my friends back home. If I miss anyone > then there will be talks. > > After reaching home I spent home one week going > through all the > photographs of girls and as the time was getting > shorter I was forced to select one candidate. > In-laws told me, to my surprise, that I would have > to get married in 2-3 days, as I will not get > anymore holidays. After the marriage, it was time to > return to USA, after giving some money to my parents > and telling the neighbours to look after them, we > returned to USA. > > My wife enjoyed this country for about two months > and then she started > feeling lonely. The frequency of calling India > increased to twice in a > week sometimes 3 times a week. Our savings started > diminishing. > > After two more years we started to have kids. Two > lovely kids, a boy and a girl, were gifted to us by > the almighty. Every time I spoke to my parents, they > asked me to come to India so that they can see their > Grand-children. > > Every year I decide to go to India. But part work > part monetary conditions prevented it. Years went by > and visiting India was a distant dream. Then > suddenly one day I got a message that my parents > were seriously sick. I tried but couldn't get any > holidays and thus could not go to India. The next > message I got was my parents were passed away and as > there was no one to do the last rights the society > members had done whatever they could. I was > depressed. My parents were passed away without > seeing their grand children. > > After couple more years passed away, much to my > children's dislike and my wife's joy we returned to > India to settle down. I started to look for a > suitable property, but to my dismay my savings were > short and the property prices had gone up during all > these years. I had to return to the USA. > > My wife refused to come back with me and my children > refused to stay in India. My 2 children and myself > returned to USA after promising my wife I would be > back for good after two years. Time passed by, My > daughter decided to get married to a American and my > son was happy living in USA. > > > > I decided that I had enough and wound-up every thing > and returned to > India. I had just enough money to buy a decent two > bed room flat in a well developed locality. > > Now I am 60 years old and the only time I go out of > the flat is for the > routine visit to the nearby temple. My faithful wife > has also left me and > gone to the holy abode. Sometimes I wondered was it > worth all this? > > > > My father, even after staying in India, had a house > to his name and I too > have the same nothing more. I lost my parents and > children for just > > ONE EXTRA BEDROOM. > > Looking out from the window I see a lot of children > dancing. This damned cable TV has spoiled our new > generation and these children are losing > their values and culture, dressing sense because of > it. I get occasional cards from my children asking I > am alright. Well at least they remember me. Now > perhaps after I die it will be the neighbours again > who will be performing my last rights. God bless > them. > > > > But the question still remains, 'Was all this worth > it?' I am still searching for an answer. > > > > Jay Mataji to all > > Rupaba Jadeja

jai shri mahadev

dear sanjeev ji, its nice that you had been working for rajputs . but what i had written about rajputs is not incorrect. as you my father also works in defence forces (paramillitary) and i am currently livin in one such defence camp. i also during the period of my father's transfer to delhi, punjab, jammu and kashmir, himachal, chandigarh, uttranchal, has observed the behavior of rajputs. their is no such unity between rajputs in these states. you say of rajputs havin the best unity among other caste, but see the case of jats. they are so much united that they had the power to twist the government to get whatever they want .they got reservations though that was illegal, as they are not as backward.in defence also i had seen the attitude of sikhs, they always help each other so much that if one sikh become head of a unit , he helps all other sikhs in his unit .

about what you had said, then i am giving you some of the address of rajput organisation. one such is
All India Rajput Students’ Aid Society : chandigarh
rajput kalyan sabha, himachal pradesh
Akhil Bharatiya Kshatriya Sabha, http://members.tripod.com/abkm
rajputsamaj www.rajputsamaj.net/

i know only so much soceity. this akhil bhartiya kshatriya manch is havin quite a membership in punjab and chandigarh.
ok for now.
jai shri mahadev

Rajinder Singh Thakur..

III Year (B.E) ..

Electronics and Electrical Communication..

PUNJAB ENGINEERING COLLEGE..

CHANDIGARH

Dear Moderating team, Can I suggest to inactivate the saving or downloading the photo created on the photo album on group site. so that we can prevent misuse of photo. This sugetion is just as a precautionery manner Mahendra

too goodd read it !!!! ________________________________ Laloo Bhai bihari Went up the pahari To fetch a bail for court order Laloo fell down And lost his crown But Rabri reigned thereafter. ________________________________ Laxman laxman Yes pappa Eating money No pappa Telling lies No pappa Open yr drawer Ha ha ha ________________________________ Samata party is falling down Falling down Falling down Samata party is falling down Falling down Falling down My fair jaitley (jaya) ________________________________ Wha Wha Black Sheep Have you pulled the wool? Yes sir, Yes sir, Three bags full. One for my father, One for my dame, And one for the CBI Crying in the lane. __________________________________ Little Miss Bharti, Did a Maha-arti, So the BJP would always hold sway. There came a big BSP With Mayavati its USP. And frightened Miss Bharti away. ________________________________ Little Lal Advani Sat with his TV vahini Taking his party's rai He stuck out his thumb, Hoping to pull out the plum, And said, 'Can I have a slice of Vaj-pie?' ____________________________________ Batsman-bowler sat on the ball. Batsman-bowler had a great fall, All the bookies' cookies, All the bribers' men, Couldn't put Indian cricket together again. ____________________________________ Bankers and ministers Sold for a penny All the swindlers are so many The envy's green And the CBI red's Nail them all, and get Their head, head, head.

Resp.Snjeevsinghji, sorry I forgot to mention.Mr.Himmatsinhji jhala died before few years.[feeling sorry for that].He had donated good amount of money to kanya-chhatralay at limbdi,gujrat.Still it carries title" Dhankunverba kanya chhatralaya'limbdi. He had tried to collect informations of NRIs.not organisations.If u want to know list of NRIs now,it is easily available now thanks to directories of RANA & RSUK. thanks dr.jayendrasinh jadeja --- Jayendrasinh Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: > Resp.Sanjeevsinghji, > Jai mataji. > Few organisations which are active & in live > contacts, > That I can give u especially of gujrat.Actually we > have a list of about 800 organisations from all over > india.But then most of them are just "paper > organisations"!Majority of such organisations have > ceased altogather. At the time of 1st RIC,when we > wrote to them,most of them didn't answer!So I advise > to entre names only after confirming the real > existence. > National Level organisations: > 1]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya Mahasabha,new delhi. > national president:Yuvraj digvijaysinhji of > vankaner.gujrat.Working president:Bholasinghji > [ex-mla] of u.p.,gen secretary:R.p.singhji of kanpur > This is the most credible national level > organisation.having branches in almost 12 states. > 2]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > mahasabha.president:Sanjaysinghji of u.p. > This is the break-away group of no.1 > organisation.especialy located mostly in u.p.,m.p. > 3]Akhil Bhartiya kshtriya > mahasangh,Nagpur,maharashtra. > 4]Kshtriya yuvak sangh: A good organisation but > exists > mainly in Rajasthan and gujrat > only.President:Bhagvansinhji.doing mainly activity > of > "chritra-nirman" like nourishing 'kshtriya-sanskar > in > young rajput boys,[may be rartely girls also]. > State-level organisations > Many others claim to exist at national level,but > reality is different. > State-level organisations: > 1]Jammu & kashhmir: > Amar Kshtriya sabha,Jammu. > 2]Himachal pradesh. > Himachal Rajput sabha,kangra. > 3]Uttar-pradesh: > Branches of both national level 1,2 > organisations.other organisations if they exist,I > don't know.pl.find out. > 4]Bhihar.Bhihar klshtriya sabha.patna. > 5]punjab: punjab kshtriya sabha,chandigadh. > 6]Rajasthan:state-wise organisation is only Kshtriya > yuvak sangh.But district level good organisations > are > also there.like jaipur Rajput samaj,mewar area > rajput > samaj.jodhpur rajput samaj etc.few giant education > institute are there.like Bhavani-niketan,chaupasi > school.etc. > 7]Gujrat.:state-level organisations: > Gujrat kshtriya sabha,president:late > Natwarsinhhji > solanki,[now Amarsinghji veghela]NOW ONLY IN 5 > DISTRICTS MAINLY. > Gujrat kshtriya sabha.president.arjoonsingh > bhati.It > is a break-away group of previous kshtriya > sabha.mainly in three districts. > Gujrat Rajput Yuva sangh[GRYS].ONE OF THE ACTIVE > ORGANISATIONS.Active in 15 disrtricts. > Kutchh-kathiwar-gujrat girasdar association.,at > rajkot.only exists in saurashtra,5 districts. > These are the only state-wise organisations.few > other > also claim state-wise branches ,but in reality they > may be active only in one district. > There are about 42 'boys chhatralaya'in whole of > gujrat.But in reality only 7 are running o.k.[mostly > in saurashtra] and 4 kanya-chhatralayaes in > gujrat,all > are doing well.Two rajput girls -hostels are quite > prestigeous at Bhavnagar:'Nandkunverba > kanya-chhatralaya,'established since 1952.Another at > gondal,near Rajkot.Thousands of rajput ladies have > got > good education since 50 years. before one > decade,two > rajput girls hostels are constructed & started at > limbadi & dhandhuka.Recently one Rajput girls hostel > is going to be started by Gujrat rajput yuva sangh > at > Rajkot at the cost of about 1.20 crores of > rupees.Within 3 mounths about 71 lacs of rupees have > been declared as donations by donors for this > project. > city level & district level organisations are many. > u know RANA & RSUK AT USA, & U.K > Thanks DR.jAYENDRASINH JADEJA > Gujt > > > > > > > --- Singh Sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sir, > > > > How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat > > Singh Zala? > > > > I badly need all this information as the site is > to > > be uplaoded soon with the content. > > > > Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the > entry > > as I suggested? > > > > Regards, > > Snjiv Singh. > > [email protected] > > > > sayvari <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi sanjeev, > > > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > > regards to > > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had > once > > corresponded with > > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > > interested in developing > > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > > years back. While > > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of > Santacruz > > he knows this > > guy. > > > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > > school/s at his > > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > > you. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sayvari > > > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > > <gi_singh@y...> > > wrote: > > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > > Details/Profile). > > > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > > > (local/state/national/international) please let me > > know about their > > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > > info to add to the > > website I'm working on. > > > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour > to > > me. Please write > > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > Snjiv Singh

jai shri mahadev dear natwarsighji, yours suggestion concerning merging of various rajput marriage site is nice but i dont think it will happen, it is in the sense bcause there is so much lack of unity. but if this occurs beleive if i will be very happy myself. i had also thought abt this many times , we had discussions also. u know there are 3-4 yahoogroups on rajputs only. also there are many groups working for rajputsin same city but do not unite. it is only bcause they cannot work under any other person ( its rajput trait of ego problem). also there is problem concerning various subcate . here in chandigarh only their are 2-3 organisation working for different subcaste like mair rajput sabha, kashyap rajput sabha etc. but if u want u can try also.dont think i am discouraging u, but tellin u that if u fails in ur mission, dont feel sorry. ok sorry if u r hurt . jai shri mahadev natvarsinh solanki <[email protected]> wrote: My dear Ishwarsa & Resp. Members, There r many rajput metrimomials web sites on net. e.g. rajputvivaaha, rajputmetrimonials, rajputindia, & so on. Let me suggest to merge with each other. It might b great step towards rajput brotherhood. Awaiting for valuable responses . Natvarsinh Solanki. Ishwar S Shekhawat <[email protected]> wrote: Yeh, I am just on the job. I will send all relevent information to Dear sanjeev including Rajputs of Mauritius. Regards Ishwar Shekhawat Pavan Rrathore <[email protected]> wrote: I live very close to Santa Cruz. Please provide any Phone Number and/or Email Address of Jitendra Ji Kushwaha. I can contact him. Himmat Singh Ji Jhala's Contact Numbers can be obtained from office of 'Shri Kshatriya Yovak Sangh' in Jaipur. Ishwarsa, please find out contact details of Himmatsa. There are a lot of Rajputs in Singapore and Hongkong and Mauritius. In fact, in Mauritius, one of the Rajputs is at some position in government. So, if we can find out some contact person over there then that person can help us outin getting more details. Thanks & Regards Pavan Rathore --- sayvari <[email protected]> wrrote: > > > Hi sanjeev, > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > regards to > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had once > corresponded with > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > interested in developing > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > years back. While > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of Santacruz > he knows this > guy. > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > school/s at his > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > you. > > Regards, > > Sayvari > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > <gi_singh@y...> > wrote: > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > Details/Profile). > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > (local/state/national/international) please let me > know about their > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > info to add to the > website I'm working on. > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour to > me. Please write > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Snjiv Singh

My dear Ishwarsa & Resp. Members, There r many rajput metrimomials web sites on net. e.g. rajputvivaaha, rajputmetrimonials, rajputindia, & so on. Let me suggest to merge with each other. It might b great step towards rajput brotherhood. Awaiting for valuable responses . Natvarsinh Solanki. Ishwar S Shekhawat <[email protected]> wrote: Yeh, I am just on the job. I will send all relevent information to Dear sanjeev including Rajputs of Mauritius. Regards Ishwar Shekhawat Pavan Rrathore <[email protected]> wrote: I live very close to Santa Cruz. Please provide any Phone Number and/or Email Address of Jitendra Ji Kushwaha. I can contact him. Himmat Singh Ji Jhala's Contact Numbers can be obtained from office of 'Shri Kshatriya Yovak Sangh' in Jaipur. Ishwarsa, please find out contact details of Himmatsa. There are a lot of Rajputs in Singapore and Hongkong and Mauritius. In fact, in Mauritius, one of the Rajputs is at some position in government. So, if we can find out some contact person over there then that person can help us outin getting more details. Thanks & Regards Pavan Rathore --- sayvari <[email protected]> wrrote: > > > Hi sanjeev, > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > regards to > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had once > corresponded with > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > interested in developing > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > years back. While > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of Santacruz > he knows this > guy. > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > school/s at his > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > you. > > Regards, > > Sayvari > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > <gi_singh@y...> > wrote: > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > Details/Profile). > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > (local/state/national/international) please let me > know about their > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > info to add to the > website I'm working on. > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour to > me. Please write > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Snjiv Singh

HI every body was little busy with my assingments now i'm back in delhi, and with you all too... Dear Hitpal Singh jee Read your reply, dear brother from your mail it's very evident thatyou love your parents very much and do not wish to even think be separated frm them, it's very true friend what you wrote a man has it's own priorities and to select them he should be brave enough to make decision, and should not forget his duties.. first your every word is very true friend but entirely missunderstood the points the story of rupa jee tried to made I would like to summ up the story as per my understanding " The story tells a very realistic fact about the aspirations of the human kind which always crave to do do better where he is today , want to achieve more what it has( what he is possessing)-a human always tries and tries to improve his standards what he is in present, this story reflects to this nature of our human kind where despite fighting for whole life a person leave this world in a piece of cloth and all his wealth possessions are left here only " its an agony to our effect that we all work, fight and at last end up with nothing- but still realising this fact we never stop fighting because we human are gifted/cursed with a piece called brain which works.. and so we always strive for better........and want more from our life want the best in it's life..... like some one might be aspiring for aishwarya( i know someone must be) but this aspiration of our human kind ends no where but at the end he leaves drapped in a piece of cloth.... SO HOW MANY OF U ARE SPIRITUALY MOTIVATED, no no.. no one should ...or we would have a birth of one more religion..like buddhism Hope friend you got the theme of the story which i feel should not be restricted only to this platform but should be circualated every where... hattss off rupa didi your postings are amazing and it reflects so true to human behaviour which is a part of my duty too to research... keep writing it's pleasent reading your postings byee... take care.. pankaj singh chandel

Hitpal Singh Ji, You always have a very good message/point in your email. But its because of broken sentences, sometimes it hides a lot of details. But I think, most of us understand the feelings behind the message and which are very good. Please keep it up. As Chudasama Ji explained, that its just an story and it really happens with a lot of people living abroad, whether its USA, UK, or UAE. I have a small daughter around 1.5 years old. After my daughter was born, I understood what my parent would have gone through while bringing me up. And I can never repay their debts no matter what ever I do. The least I can do is respect them and fulfill all their dreams. May Maa Bhagwati give all of us strength to work hard, always respect our parents and fulfill their dreams. Regards Pavan Rathore --- sinh <[email protected]> wrotee: > > Respected Rupaba Jadeja > i agree with you but i did not agree two or > three parts. IF guy(male) can take his wife in > usa....why he did not take his parents???? He is > not called man. One more things, if he did not > respect his father and mother, how can he thinks > that his kids respect him and his wife. If he live > with his parent, his children als take care him too > in future. If he forget his duty, his children also > forget his duty too. One more things, usa goverment > give 15 days off for work, if any close realative > die. So he is not man.... My dad work in usa, when > my grandfather died....my dad was in inda after 24 > hours.... when he got message, he get flight after > two hours.... he pay more than four time his > ticketssss. if i don't respect my father, tomrrow > my children did not respect me.... Money is not > important in life. family is first. So future no > problem.... > > I am talking abt my life. it is true story. I grow > up with my grandfather. My grand mother died when i > was 12 years old. When i came to usa, my dad > sponser my grand father more than five times but my > grand father never went outside of our village.... > even thought he never went to hospital other > village. Docter came our house back in india. My > dad give him money and my dad can not go back in > india bcz me and my brother. One time my dad wient > to inda when my grand father was sick. Also when my > Nana was vary sick my dad and my mom went india too. > I know.... How much my dad loves his dad.. Right > now i love my dad..... bye the way i am younger his > kids. > > Rupaba, all man are not same things. people are > different. When i have free time i watch Baghbaan > movies. Every time i watch i learn something. It > was vary good movie...if any body did not watch this > movie. Plz watch this movie. > jay mataji to all > sorry abt if i talk overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > Hitpalsinh Rathod > > Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: > > One Extra Bedroom !!! > > This is worth reading > > As the dream of most parents I had acquired a degree > in software > > Engineering and joined a company based in USA the > land of braves and > opportunity. When I arrived in the USA, it was as if > a dream had come > true. > > > Here at last I was in the place where I want to be. > I decided I would be > staying in this country for about Five years in > which time, I would have > earned enough money to settle down in India. My > father was a government employee and after his > retirement, the only asset he could acquire was a > decent one bedroom flat. I wanted to do some thing > more than him. I started feeling home sick and > lonely as the time passed. I used to call home and > speak to my parents every week using cheap > international phone cards. > > Two years passed, two years of Burgers at Mac > Donald's and pizzas and discos and 2 years watching > the foreign exchange rate getting happy whenever the > Rupee value went down. Finally I decided to get > married. Told my parents that I have only 10 days > off and everything must be done within these 10 > days. I got my ticket booked in the cheapest flight. > Was jubilant and was actually enjoying shopping for > gifts for all my friends back home. If I miss anyone > then there will be talks. > > After reaching home I spent home one week going > through all the > photographs of girls and as the time was getting > shorter I was forced to select one candidate. > In-laws told me, to my surprise, that I would have > to get married in 2-3 days, as I will not get > anymore holidays. After the marriage, it was time to > return to USA, after giving some money to my parents > and telling the neighbours to look after them, we > returned to USA. > > My wife enjoyed this country for about two months > and then she started > feeling lonely. The frequency of calling India > increased to twice in a > week sometimes 3 times a week. Our savings started > diminishing. > > After two more years we started to have kids. Two > lovely kids, a boy and a girl, were gifted to us by > the almighty. Every time I spoke to my parents, they > asked me to come to India so that they can see their > Grand-children. > > Every year I decide to go to India. But part work > part monetary conditions prevented it. Years went by > and visiting India was a distant dream. Then > suddenly one day I got a message that my parents > were seriously sick. I tried but couldn't get any > holidays and thus could not go to India. The next > message I got was my parents were passed away and as > there was no one to do the last rights the society > members had done whatever they could. I was > depressed. My parents were passed away without > seeing their grand children. > > After couple more years passed away, much to my > children's dislike and my wife's joy we returned to > India to settle down. I started to look for a > suitable property, but to my dismay my savings were > short and the property prices had gone up during all > these years. I had to return to the USA. > > My wife refused to come back with me and my children > refused to stay in India. My 2 children and myself > returned to USA after promising my wife I would be > back for good after two years. Time passed by, My > daughter decided to get married to a American and my > son was happy living in USA. > > > > I decided that I had enough and wound-up every thing > and returned to > India. I had just enough money to buy a decent two > bed room flat in a well developed locality. > > Now I am 60 years old and the only time I go out of > the flat is for the > routine visit to the nearby temple. My faithful wife > has also left me and > gone to the holy abode. Sometimes I wondered was it > worth all this? > > > > My father, even after staying in India, had a house > to his name and I too > have the same nothing more. I lost my parents and > children for just > > ONE EXTRA BEDROOM. > > Looking out from the window I see a lot of children > dancing. This damned cable TV has spoiled our new > generation and these children are losing > their values and culture, dressing sense because of > it. I get occasional cards from my children asking I > am alright. Well at least they remember me. Now > perhaps after I die it will be the neighbours again > who will be performing my last rights. God bless > them. > > > > But the question still remains, 'Was all this worth > it?' I am still searching for an answer. > > > > Jay Mataji to all > > Rupaba Jadeja >

Yeh, I am just on the job. I will send all relevent information to Dear sanjeev including Rajputs of Mauritius. Regards Ishwar Shekhawat Pavan Rrathore <[email protected]> wrote: I live very close to Santa Cruz. Please provide any Phone Number and/or Email Address of Jitendra Ji Kushwaha. I can contact him. Himmat Singh Ji Jhala's Contact Numbers can be obtained from office of 'Shri Kshatriya Yovak Sangh' in Jaipur. Ishwarsa, please find out contact details of Himmatsa. There are a lot of Rajputs in Singapore and Hongkong and Mauritius. In fact, in Mauritius, one of the Rajputs is at some position in government. So, if we can find out some contact person over there then that person can help us outin getting more details. Thanks & Regards Pavan Rathore --- sayvari <[email protected]> wrrote: > > > Hi sanjeev, > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > regards to > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had once > corresponded with > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > interested in developing > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > years back. While > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of Santacruz > he knows this > guy. > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > school/s at his > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > you. > > Regards, > > Sayvari > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > <gi_singh@y...> > wrote: > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > Details/Profile). > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > (local/state/national/international) please let me > know about their > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > info to add to the > website I'm working on. > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour to > me. Please write > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Snjiv Singh

I live very close to Santa Cruz. Please provide any Phone Number and/or Email Address of Jitendra Ji Kushwaha. I can contact him. Himmat Singh Ji Jhala's Contact Numbers can be obtained from office of 'Shri Kshatriya Yovak Sangh' in Jaipur. Ishwarsa, please find out contact details of Himmatsa. There are a lot of Rajputs in Singapore and Hongkong and Mauritius. In fact, in Mauritius, one of the Rajputs is at some position in government. So, if we can find out some contact person over there then that person can help us outin getting more details. Thanks & Regards Pavan Rathore --- sayvari <[email protected]> wrrote: > > > Hi sanjeev, > > I believe you are getting a positive response with > regards to > profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had once > corresponded with > one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was > interested in developing > a directory of all international Rajputs this was > years back. While > on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of Santacruz > he knows this > guy. > > This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few > school/s at his > natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for > you. > > Regards, > > Sayvari > > --- In [email protected], Singh Sanjeev > <gi_singh@y...> > wrote: > > || Jai Shri Ram || > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact > Details/Profile). > > > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level > (local/state/national/international) please let me > know about their > contact details or a brief profile as I need that > info to add to the > website I'm working on. > > > > An early response from you'll be a great favour to > me. Please write > to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Snjiv Singh > >

last month, especially last week was tough. so i was not in touch with the postings. i want to congratulate all the members of moderating team. i am sure you all will keep doing the great job. regards amit ps1 - dear hitpalsinhji, after reading your mail i rented bhagbaan movies. and i almost cried (after watching it). then i had to holdon on something. then i did not cry. very good movie. thank you very much for recommending the movies. regards amit. ps2- very soon i shall be sharing one good news with everybody (no, i am not getting married :P ) ___________________________________________ sinh <[email protected]> wrote: > Respected Rupaba Jadeja > i agree with you but i did not agree two or > three parts. IF guy(male) can take his wife in > usa....why he did not take his parents???? He is > not called man. One more things, if he did not > respect his father and mother, how can he thinks > that his kids respect him and his wife. If he live > with his parent, his children als take care him too > in future. If he forget his duty, his children also > forget his duty too. One more things, usa goverment > give 15 days off for work, if any close realative > die. So he is not man.... My dad work in usa, when > my grandfather died....my dad was in inda after 24 > hours.... when he got message, he get flight after > two hours.... he pay more than four time his > ticketssss. if i don't respect my father, tomrrow > my children did not respect me.... Money is not > important in life. family is first. So future no > problem.... > > I am talking abt my life. it is true story. I grow > up with my grandfather. My grand mother died when i > was 12 years old. When i came to usa, my dad > sponser my grand father more than five times but my > grand father never went outside of our village.... > even thought he never went to hospital other > village. Docter came our house back in india. My > dad give him money and my dad can not go back in > india bcz me and my brother. One time my dad wient > to inda when my grand father was sick. Also when my > Nana was vary sick my dad and my mom went india too. > I know.... How much my dad loves his dad.. Right > now i love my dad..... bye the way i am younger his > kids. > > Rupaba, all man are not same things. people are > different. When i have free time i watch Baghbaan > movies. Every time i watch i learn something. It > was vary good movie...if any body did not watch this > movie. Plz watch this movie. > jay mataji to all > sorry abt if i talk overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > Hitpalsinh Rathod

Sir, How to get in touch with Jitendra Khuswaha/Himmat Singh Zala? I badly need all this information as the site is to be uplaoded soon with the content. Is your Winfax probelm solved by removing the entry as I suggested? Regards, Snjiv Singh. [email protected] sayvari <[email protected]> wrote: Hi sanjeev, I believe you are getting a positive response with regards to profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had once corresponded with one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was interested in developing a directory of all international Rajputs this was years back. While on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of Santacruz he knows this guy. This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few school/s at his natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for you. Regards, Sayvari --- In [email protected], Singgh Sanjeev <gi_singh@y...> wrote: > || Jai Shri Ram || > > Dear Members, > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact Details/Profile). > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level (local/state/national/international) please let me know about their contact details or a brief profile as I need that info to add to the website I'm working on. > > An early response from you'll be a great favour to me. Please write to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > Thanks and Regards, > Snjiv Singh

Hi sanjeev, I believe you are getting a positive response with regards to profiles of various Rajput Organisation. I had once corresponded with one Himmat Singh Zala from Singapore he was interested in developing a directory of all international Rajputs this was years back. While on chat I spoke about Jitendra Khuswaha of Santacruz he knows this guy. This Jitendra Khuswaha has established quite a few school/s at his natvie place, he could be a resourceful person for you. Regards, Sayvari --- In [email protected], Singgh Sanjeev <gi_singh@y...> wrote: > || Jai Shri Ram || > > Dear Members, > > Jai Mata Ji !! > > I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact Details/Profile). > > If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level (local/state/national/international) please let me know about their contact details or a brief profile as I need that info to add to the website I'm working on. > > An early response from you'll be a great favour to me. Please write to me at sanjeev.singh@h... > > Thanks and Regards, > Snjiv Singh

Dear Hitpalsinh, This storey is trying to explain us some lesson of tragedy of reality happening with many people we found surrounding us in foreign land. It makes one to think what to select in life in particular situation. In this storey no where money or extra bed room or materialistic things are portrayed more important or upper edge but painful only. All are not lucky, strong and wise enough like you and your daddy and makes some calculative decision in life which in end may bring them some time more dismay, tragedy and pain as happened here in storey man. Your agree or no agree with Rupaba does not arise at all here if you will read it more carefully. as every storey has got some lesson hidden behind it and is up to the person to decide in situation. If you argue that why person took his wife to USA and not his parent may have some calculative reason or may not be lucky, strong or wise enough as like your daddy but happens with many is again fact and reality which none of us can rule it out. I don't know much of such things in USA but I can say of prevailing situation and reality of Gulf and Dubai where in thousands and millions of our Indian labor class people over here have to live single life not even without their parents but even without their wife and children for so many of years of their life and this storey must be based on some bitter reality. We know these people are not at all happy living without family but are there in millions and must have some calculation in life of their own. my point is to explain you only things that storey is based on some bitter reality, fact and of people around us and again we have so many lucky people also like your daddy, me ( thanks god ) and many around us and not matter argue and counter argue. It touches many of us whether this way or that way is different things. My first reaction after reading storey was I felt lucky of my self when such tragic situation happened with me upon the news of sickness of my mother. in spite of our insistence for my mother to stay permently with us she hardly use to stays in Dubai for few months and returns back to Bhavnagar so many times because of her age and difference in living style between two places. Last year upon getting telephone of her sickness we reached next morning via Dubai-Bombay -Bhavnagar flight to her even earlier than my sister and cousin from within India. Dubai though is out of India but is more nearer to Bombay than many other cities of India because of availability of numbers of flight and travel time between two cities. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: sinh To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] One Extra Bedroom!! Respected Rupaba Jadeja i agree with you but i did not agree two or three parts. IF guy(male) can take his wife in usa....why he did not take his parents???? He is not called man. One more things, if he did not respect his father and mother, how can he thinks that his kids respect him and his wife. If he live with his parent, his children als take care him too in future. If he forget his duty, his children also forget his duty too. One more things, usa goverment give 15 days off for work, if any close realative die. So he is not man.... My dad work in usa, when my grandfather died....my dad was in inda after 24 hours.... when he got message, he get flight after two hours.... he pay more than four time his ticketssss. if i don't respect my father, tomrrow my children did not respect me.... Money is not important in life. family is first. So future no problem.... I am talking abt my life. it is true story. I grow up with my grandfather. My grand mother died when i was 12 years old. When i came to usa, my dad sponser my grand father more than five times but my grand father never went outside of our village.... even thought he never went to hospital other village. Docter came our house back in india. My dad give him money and my dad can not go back in india bcz me and my brother. One time my dad wient to inda when my grand father was sick. Also when my Nana was vary sick my dad and my mom went india too. I know.... How much my dad loves his dad.. Right now i love my dad..... bye the way i am younger his kids. Rupaba, all man are not same things. people are different. When i have free time i watch Baghbaan movies. Every time i watch i learn something. It was vary good movie...if any body did not watch this movie. Plz watch this movie. jay mataji to all sorry abt if i talk overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Hitpalsinh Rathod Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: One Extra Bedroom !!! This is worth reading As the dream of most parents I had acquired a degree in software Engineering and joined a company based in USA the land of braves and opportunity. When I arrived in the USA, it was as if a dream had come true. Here at last I was in the place where I want to be. I decided I would be staying in this country for about Five years in which time, I would have earned enough money to settle down in India. My father was a government employee and after his retirement, the only asset he could acquire was a decent one bedroom flat. I wanted to do some thing more than him. I started feeling home sick and lonely as the time passed. I used to call home and speak to my parents every week using cheap international phone cards. Two years passed, two years of Burgers at Mac Donald's and pizzas and discos and 2 years watching the foreign exchange rate getting happy whenever the Rupee value went down. Finally I decided to get married. Told my parents that I have only 10 days off and everything must be done within these 10 days. I got my ticket booked in the cheapest flight. Was jubilant and was actually enjoying shopping for gifts for all my friends back home. If I miss anyone then there will be talks. After reaching home I spent home one week going through all the photographs of girls and as the time was getting shorter I was forced to select one candidate. In-laws told me, to my surprise, that I would have to get married in 2-3 days, as I will not get anymore holidays. After the marriage, it was time to return to USA, after giving some money to my parents and telling the neighbours to look after them, we returned to USA. My wife enjoyed this country for about two months and then she started feeling lonely. The frequency of calling India increased to twice in a week sometimes 3 times a week. Our savings started diminishing. After two more years we started to have kids. Two lovely kids, a boy and a girl, were gifted to us by the almighty. Every time I spoke to my parents, they asked me to come to India so that they can see their Grand-children. Every year I decide to go to India. But part work part monetary conditions prevented it. Years went by and visiting India was a distant dream. Then suddenly one day I got a message that my parents were seriously sick. I tried but couldn't get any holidays and thus could not go to India. The next message I got was my parents were passed away and as there was no one to do the last rights the society members had done whatever they could. I was depressed. My parents were passed away without seeing their grand children. After couple more years passed away, much to my children's dislike and my wife's joy we returned to India to settle down. I started to look for a suitable property, but to my dismay my savings were short and the property prices had gone up during all these years. I had to return to the USA. My wife refused to come back with me and my children refused to stay in India. My 2 children and myself returned to USA after promising my wife I would be back for good after two years. Time passed by, My daughter decided to get married to a American and my son was happy living in USA. I decided that I had enough and wound-up every thing and returned to India. I had just enough money to buy a decent two bed room flat in a well developed locality. Now I am 60 years old and the only time I go out of the flat is for the routine visit to the nearby temple. My faithful wife has also left me and gone to the holy abode. Sometimes I wondered was it worth all this? My father, even after staying in India, had a house to his name and I too have the same nothing more. I lost my parents and children for just ONE EXTRA BEDROOM. Looking out from the window I see a lot of children dancing. This damned cable TV has spoiled our new generation and these children are losing their values and culture, dressing sense because of it. I get occasional cards from my children asking I am alright. Well at least they remember me. Now perhaps after I die it will be the neighbours again who will be performing my last rights. God bless them. But the question still remains, 'Was all this worth it?' I am still searching for an answer. Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja

Jai Shri Ram !! Dear Members, Many times you might have faced difficulty in accessing Yahoo Group of RajputWorld due to a long URL i.e. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/ Instead of this long URL you can just type www.rajput.isasecret.com and you'll be redirected to the above URL. Note: Please don't forget to put www as sometimes just typing rajput.isasecret.com won't take u to the destined URL. Members who have their own websites parked at free websites like Geocities and Freeservers can have short URL like www.sanjeev.3-a.net instead of http://www.geocities.com/snjivsingh. And all this is ABSOLUTELY FREE. Regards, Snjiv Singh [email protected]

Respected Rupaba Jadeja i agree with you but i did not agree two or three parts. IF guy(male) can take his wife in usa....why he did not take his parents???? He is not called man. One more things, if he did not respect his father and mother, how can he thinks that his kids respect him and his wife. If he live with his parent, his children als take care him too in future. If he forget his duty, his children also forget his duty too. One more things, usa goverment give 15 days off for work, if any close realative die. So he is not man.... My dad work in usa, when my grandfather died....my dad was in inda after 24 hours.... when he got message, he get flight after two hours.... he pay more than four time his ticketssss. if i don't respect my father, tomrrow my children did not respect me.... Money is not important in life. family is first. So future no problem.... I am talking abt my life. it is true story. I grow up with my grandfather. My grand mother died when i was 12 years old. When i came to usa, my dad sponser my grand father more than five times but my grand father never went outside of our village.... even thought he never went to hospital other village. Docter came our house back in india. My dad give him money and my dad can not go back in india bcz me and my brother. One time my dad wient to inda when my grand father was sick. Also when my Nana was vary sick my dad and my mom went india too. I know.... How much my dad loves his dad.. Right now i love my dad..... bye the way i am younger his kids. Rupaba, all man are not same things. people are different. When i have free time i watch Baghbaan movies. Every time i watch i learn something. It was vary good movie...if any body did not watch this movie. Plz watch this movie. jay mataji to all sorry abt if i talk overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Hitpalsinh Rathod Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: One Extra Bedroom !!! This is worth reading As the dream of most parents I had acquired a degree in software Engineering and joined a company based in USA the land of braves and opportunity. When I arrived in the USA, it was as if a dream had come true. Here at last I was in the place where I want to be. I decided I would be staying in this country for about Five years in which time, I would have earned enough money to settle down in India. My father was a government employee and after his retirement, the only asset he could acquire was a decent one bedroom flat. I wanted to do some thing more than him. I started feeling home sick and lonely as the time passed. I used to call home and speak to my parents every week using cheap international phone cards. Two years passed, two years of Burgers at Mac Donald's and pizzas and discos and 2 years watching the foreign exchange rate getting happy whenever the Rupee value went down. Finally I decided to get married. Told my parents that I have only 10 days off and everything must be done within these 10 days. I got my ticket booked in the cheapest flight. Was jubilant and was actually enjoying shopping for gifts for all my friends back home. If I miss anyone then there will be talks. After reaching home I spent home one week going through all the photographs of girls and as the time was getting shorter I was forced to select one candidate. In-laws told me, to my surprise, that I would have to get married in 2-3 days, as I will not get anymore holidays. After the marriage, it was time to return to USA, after giving some money to my parents and telling the neighbours to look after them, we returned to USA. My wife enjoyed this country for about two months and then she started feeling lonely. The frequency of calling India increased to twice in a week sometimes 3 times a week. Our savings started diminishing. After two more years we started to have kids. Two lovely kids, a boy and a girl, were gifted to us by the almighty. Every time I spoke to my parents, they asked me to come to India so that they can see their Grand-children. Every year I decide to go to India. But part work part monetary conditions prevented it. Years went by and visiting India was a distant dream. Then suddenly one day I got a message that my parents were seriously sick. I tried but couldn't get any holidays and thus could not go to India. The next message I got was my parents were passed away and as there was no one to do the last rights the society members had done whatever they could. I was depressed. My parents were passed away without seeing their grand children. After couple more years passed away, much to my children's dislike and my wife's joy we returned to India to settle down. I started to look for a suitable property, but to my dismay my savings were short and the property prices had gone up during all these years. I had to return to the USA. My wife refused to come back with me and my children refused to stay in India. My 2 children and myself returned to USA after promising my wife I would be back for good after two years. Time passed by, My daughter decided to get married to a American and my son was happy living in USA. I decided that I had enough and wound-up every thing and returned to India. I had just enough money to buy a decent two bed room flat in a well developed locality. Now I am 60 years old and the only time I go out of the flat is for the routine visit to the nearby temple. My faithful wife has also left me and gone to the holy abode. Sometimes I wondered was it worth all this? My father, even after staying in India, had a house to his name and I too have the same nothing more. I lost my parents and children for just ONE EXTRA BEDROOM. Looking out from the window I see a lot of children dancing. This damned cable TV has spoiled our new generation and these children are losing their values and culture, dressing sense because of it. I get occasional cards from my children asking I am alright. Well at least they remember me. Now perhaps after I die it will be the neighbours again who will be performing my last rights. God bless them. But the question still remains, 'Was all this worth it?' I am still searching for an answer. Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja

|| Jai Shri Ram || Dear Members, Jai Mata Ji !! I need info on Rajput Organisations (Contact Details/Profile). If you know any Rajput Organisation of any level (local/state/national/international) please let me know about their contact details or a brief profile as I need that info to add to the website I'm working on. An early response from you'll be a great favour to me. Please write to me at [email protected] Thanks and Regards, Snjiv Singh

Aapne to humein dara diya hai Rupaba... :)) --- Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: > > One Extra Bedroom !!! > > This is worth reading > > As the dream of most parents I had acquired a degree > in software > > Engineering and joined a company based in USA the > land of braves and > opportunity. When I arrived in the USA, it was as if > a dream had come > true. > > > Here at last I was in the place where I want to be. > I decided I would be > staying in this country for about Five years in > which time, I would have > earned enough money to settle down in India. My > father was a government employee and after his > retirement, the only asset he could acquire was a > decent one bedroom flat. I wanted to do some thing > more than him. I started feeling home sick and > lonely as the time passed. I used to call home and > speak to my parents every week using cheap > international phone cards. > > Two years passed, two years of Burgers at Mac > Donald's and pizzas and discos and 2 years watching > the foreign exchange rate getting happy whenever the > Rupee value went down. Finally I decided to get > married. Told my parents that I have only 10 days > off and everything must be done within these 10 > days. I got my ticket booked in the cheapest flight. > Was jubilant and was actually enjoying shopping for > gifts for all my friends back home. If I miss anyone > then there will be talks. > > After reaching home I spent home one week going > through all the > photographs of girls and as the time was getting > shorter I was forced to select one candidate. > In-laws told me, to my surprise, that I would have > to get married in 2-3 days, as I will not get > anymore holidays. After the marriage, it was time to > return to USA, after giving some money to my parents > and telling the neighbours to look after them, we > returned to USA. > > My wife enjoyed this country for about two months > and then she started > feeling lonely. The frequency of calling India > increased to twice in a > week sometimes 3 times a week. Our savings started > diminishing. > > After two more years we started to have kids. Two > lovely kids, a boy and a girl, were gifted to us by > the almighty. Every time I spoke to my parents, they > asked me to come to India so that they can see their > Grand-children. > > Every year I decide to go to India. But part work > part monetary conditions prevented it. Years went by > and visiting India was a distant dream. Then > suddenly one day I got a message that my parents > were seriously sick. I tried but couldn't get any > holidays and thus could not go to India. The next > message I got was my parents were passed away and as > there was no one to do the last rights the society > members had done whatever they could. I was > depressed. My parents were passed away without > seeing their grand children. > > After couple more years passed away, much to my > children's dislike and my wife's joy we returned to > India to settle down. I started to look for a > suitable property, but to my dismay my savings were > short and the property prices had gone up during all > these years. I had to return to the USA. > > My wife refused to come back with me and my children > refused to stay in India. My 2 children and myself > returned to USA after promising my wife I would be > back for good after two years. Time passed by, My > daughter decided to get married to a American and my > son was happy living in USA. > > > > I decided that I had enough and wound-up every thing > and returned to > India. I had just enough money to buy a decent two > bed room flat in a well developed locality. > > Now I am 60 years old and the only time I go out of > the flat is for the > routine visit to the nearby temple. My faithful wife > has also left me and > gone to the holy abode. Sometimes I wondered was it > worth all this? > > > > My father, even after staying in India, had a house > to his name and I too > have the same nothing more. I lost my parents and > children for just > > ONE EXTRA BEDROOM. > > Looking out from the window I see a lot of children > dancing. This damned cable TV has spoiled our new > generation and these children are losing > their values and culture, dressing sense because of > it. I get occasional cards from my children asking I > am alright. Well at least they remember me. Now > perhaps after I die it will be the neighbours again > who will be performing my last rights. God bless > them. > > > > But the question still remains, 'Was all this worth > it?' I am still searching for an answer. > > > > Jay Mataji to all > > Rupaba Jadeja

Dear all friends, As earlier up loaded in file section copy of Magazine Sankalp Shakti - The Social Gujarati Monthly covering Report of 2 nd RIC, London in Acrobat PDF format covering all 28 pages is too big ( all most 2.3 MB ) and takes too long time to open it particularly those using slow server in dial up connection. For the convenience considering this reason, same has been up loaded in separate folder with each page separated to refer it faster. Please go to folder with URL at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/files/RIC_Guj_SankalapShakti_report/ Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: M. B. Chudasama To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:12 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] Fw: Sankalp Shakti - The Social Gujarati Monthly covering Report of 2 nd RIC Dear all friends, I have up loaded in file section copy of Megezine Sankalp Shakti - The Social Gujarati Monthly covering Report of 2 nd RIC, London in Acrobat pdf formate covering all 28 pages. You can access this file at the URL: Please observe long waiting to open out file as it is 2.3 MB sized file http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/files/SankalpShaktiSept2004.pdf Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: "hanumantsinh m jadeja" <[email protected]> To: "MB.Chudasama" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [RajputWorld ] Agreed to the proposal of M.B.Chudasamaji. Respected Mahendrasinhji, Jay mataji, I am Hanumantsinh Jadeja, serving as a deputy collector at ahmedabad now. I was mamlatdar at morbid since 9/97 to 5/2001.My native place is Memana Tal.Lalpur, Dist: Jamnagar.I am living at Gandhinagar with my family. Day after tomorrow there is a Rajput officer's conference at Rajkot. We are reaching tomorrow at Rajkot. I will be in touch with you for updating our website. I am forwarding an issue of SANKALP SHAKTI monthly magazine. Which will provide you some information about 2nd RAJPUT INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE , HELD AT LONDON,on 31July and 1st of August. I will send you other reports time to time. Thanking you for your concern, Yours , HANUMANTSINH JADEJA ----- Original Message ----- From: "hanumantsinh m jadeja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:23 PM Subject: Fwd: Sankalp Shakti - The Social Monthly Note: Forwarded message attached RESPECTED SIR HERE IS I am forwarding an issue of SANKALP SHAKTI monthly magazine. Which will provide you some information about 2nd RAJPUT INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE , HELD AT LONDON,on 31July and 1st of August. YOURS , HANUMANTSINH JADEJA ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Sankalp Shakti - The Social Monthly To, Respected individual Myself Yashwantsinh Rathod from Sankalp Shakti - The Social Monthly for Rajputs (Kshatriya) since 11 years. Herewith I am sending you online version of Sankalp Shakti September2004 (having special report on 2nd Rajput International conference held at LONDON) in Acrobat Reader format (PDF). This is our first try towards online magazine. Please find some time to look at it & suggest your opinion to improve us. Awaiting your suggestions. Thanking You, Yashwantsinh M. Rathod The Editor Sankalp Shakti 17 Jagnath Plot, Opp. Holiday In, Dr. Yagnik Road, Rajkot - 360 001 Gujarat - INDIA (M) +91-98253-69913 (R) +91-281-2466436 (o) +91-281-2466973

One Extra Bedroom !!! This is worth reading As the dream of most parents I had acquired a degree in software Engineering and joined a company based in USA the land of braves and opportunity. When I arrived in the USA, it was as if a dream had come true. Here at last I was in the place where I want to be. I decided I would be staying in this country for about Five years in which time, I would have earned enough money to settle down in India. My father was a government employee and after his retirement, the only asset he could acquire was a decent one bedroom flat. I wanted to do some thing more than him. I started feeling home sick and lonely as the time passed. I used to call home and speak to my parents every week using cheap international phone cards. Two years passed, two years of Burgers at Mac Donald's and pizzas and discos and 2 years watching the foreign exchange rate getting happy whenever the Rupee value went down. Finally I decided to get married. Told my parents that I have only 10 days off and everything must be done within these 10 days. I got my ticket booked in the cheapest flight. Was jubilant and was actually enjoying shopping for gifts for all my friends back home. If I miss anyone then there will be talks. After reaching home I spent home one week going through all the photographs of girls and as the time was getting shorter I was forced to select one candidate. In-laws told me, to my surprise, that I would have to get married in 2-3 days, as I will not get anymore holidays. After the marriage, it was time to return to USA, after giving some money to my parents and telling the neighbours to look after them, we returned to USA. My wife enjoyed this country for about two months and then she started feeling lonely. The frequency of calling India increased to twice in a week sometimes 3 times a week. Our savings started diminishing. After two more years we started to have kids. Two lovely kids, a boy and a girl, were gifted to us by the almighty. Every time I spoke to my parents, they asked me to come to India so that they can see their Grand-children. Every year I decide to go to India. But part work part monetary conditions prevented it. Years went by and visiting India was a distant dream. Then suddenly one day I got a message that my parents were seriously sick. I tried but couldn't get any holidays and thus could not go to India. The next message I got was my parents were passed away and as there was no one to do the last rights the society members had done whatever they could. I was depressed. My parents were passed away without seeing their grand children. After couple more years passed away, much to my children's dislike and my wife's joy we returned to India to settle down. I started to look for a suitable property, but to my dismay my savings were short and the property prices had gone up during all these years. I had to return to the USA. My wife refused to come back with me and my children refused to stay in India. My 2 children and myself returned to USA after promising my wife I would be back for good after two years. Time passed by, My daughter decided to get married to a American and my son was happy living in USA. I decided that I had enough and wound-up every thing and returned to India. I had just enough money to buy a decent two bed room flat in a well developed locality. Now I am 60 years old and the only time I go out of the flat is for the routine visit to the nearby temple. My faithful wife has also left me and gone to the holy abode. Sometimes I wondered was it worth all this? My father, even after staying in India, had a house to his name and I too have the same nothing more. I lost my parents and children for just ONE EXTRA BEDROOM. Looking out from the window I see a lot of children dancing. This damned cable TV has spoiled our new generation and these children are losing their values and culture, dressing sense because of it. I get occasional cards from my children asking I am alright. Well at least they remember me. Now perhaps after I die it will be the neighbours again who will be performing my last rights. God bless them. But the question still remains, 'Was all this worth it?' I am still searching for an answer. Jay Mataji to all Rupaba Jadeja

Physics Exam The following concerns a question in a physics degree exam at the University of Copenhagen: "Describe how to determine the height of a skyscraper with a barometer." One student replied: "You tie a long piece of string to the neck of the barometer, then lower the barometer from the roof of the skyscraper to the ground. The length of the string plus the length of the barometer will equal the height of the building." This highly original answer so incensed the examiner that the student was failed immediately. He appealed on the grounds that his answer was indisputably correct, and the university appointed an independent arbiter to decide the case. The arbiter judged that the answer was indeed correct,but did not display any noticeable knowledge of physics. To resolve the problem it was decided to call the student in and allow him six minutes in which to provide a verbal answer which showed at least a minimal familiarity with the basic principles of physics. For five minutes the student sat in silence,forehead creased in thought. The arbiter reminded him that time was running out, to which the student replied that he had several extremely relevant answers, but couldn't make up his mind which to use. On being advised to hurry up the student replied as follows: "Firstly, you could take the barometer up to the roof of the skyscraper,drop it over the edge, and measure the time it takes to reach the ground.The height of the building can then be worked out from the formula H =0.5gx t squared. But bad luck on the barometer. "Or if the sun is shining you could measure the height of the barometer,then set it on end and measure the length of its shadow. Then you measure the length of the skyscraper's shadow, and thereafter it is a simple matter of proportional arithmetic to work uut the height of the skyscraper. "But if you wanted to be highly scientific about it, you could tie a short piece of string to the barometer and swing it like a pendulum, first at ground level and then on the roof of the skyscraper. The height is worked out by the difference in the gravitational restoring force T = 2 pi sqrroot (l/g). "Or if the skyscraper has an outside emergency staircase, it would be easier to walk up it and mark off the height of the skyscraper in barometer lengths, then add them up. "If you merely wanted to be boring and orthodox about it, of course, you could use the barometer to measure the air pressure on the roof of the skyscraper and on the ground, and convert the difference in millibars into feet to give the height of the building. But since we are constantly being exhorted to exercise independence of mind and apply scientific methods, undoubtedly the best way would be to knock on the janitor's door and say to him 'If you would like a nice new barometer, I will give you this one if you tell me the height of this skyscraper'." The student was Nils Bohr, the only Dane to win the Nobel prize for Physics. urs rajnish

I do apprecite to see this type of useful information for our brothers and sisters.
I am here in Dallas,TX since 2000 and working in renouned packaging company.I am also pursuing my part time MBA program in "University of Texas,Arlington (UTA).I am close to complitition of this program.
Please let me know if any one needs more information/guidelines in this regard.

Jai Mataji

Hardevsinh Jadeja

Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote:
Excellent!! brilliant piece of information Ishwarji....

I would just add a little to it that MBA in Communications gives you a strong foothold in Marketing, sales, Diplomatic, Government High positions jobs etc.

As along with a good HR(Human Resources Skills) combined by a very strong Communications skill one can never go wrong!!

If you need help on learning via Open University in UK and giving exams by any of the UK Board please let me know and I will be pleased to help you out! OR if you want to personally find out about many courses in person and want to visit our British Council offices in India please let me know and I will provide with name, address and email ids.

U do not have to bear the expenses of coming and studying in UK. as you can do this in the country of your residence thus cost cutting but gaining an Internationally Recognised Degree!!

Thanks, Regards and Jay Mataji to all
Rupaba Jadeja, London

Ishwar S Shekhawat <[email protected]> wrote:

Respected Members,
Jai Mataji,
I would like to share some tips on trend in jobs and career for
consideration of our members. Since I am a part of Human Resource
Development (HRD) dept, I am little bit aware of what trend is going
on and what would be the future trend for career and jobs.

·      MBA – Those who are aspiring to be an MBA should go for
specialization in HRD, MARKETING with specialization in International
marketing, Product & brand management, MBA in Logistics and Supply
Chain. HR is the BOSS dept in any company/Industry; HR is one area,
which would ever remain good career prospects. MBA – HR is best for a
girl if she is aspiring to be an MBA. Secondly, there is huge demand
for good smart marketing people but the person who is aspiring to be
an MBA in Marketing should have the great communication skills, flair
and connoisseur for sales and management, to be a successful person
in Marketing.
·      MBA – Finance is one field that would be hot in demand.
Taxation, costing, acquisition and mergers. Future is going to
witness acquisitions and mergers of companies and finance managers
would be most sought after entity.

MBA should be done from a good or reputed Institute else one may not
get into top companies. Resume should also be written in impressive
way with stress on objective and what you can give to the employer
company. If your resume is not effectively written it may end up in
dustbin, cause companies receive a lot numbers of resume for a post
and Managers don't have time to go through each resume they just look
at the objective, Institutes where you have studied.

·      After (2005) implementation of WHO norms in Pharmaceuticals
sector there is going to be huge demand in research and development.
People with Masters in Pharmacy, PhD (Chemistry) in organic,
analytical, novel drug delivery system and M.Sc in Biotechnology,
Genetics and chemicals would be in great demand.
·      For girls again pharma is most excellent field to work with.
Girls should opt for analytical research, clinical research,
Pharmacology, formulation & development while doing Masters in
Pharmacy.

I have mentioned only a few areas that I know especially. Other
members can also contribute such information for the benefit of our
young aspirants in their area of specialization.
Regards
Ishwar S Shekhawat

Ishwarsa, Rupaba

Very Nice and Useful Information !!

When I was in college, I had no idea which career path
should I choose. I had various things in my mind. Go
to IAS/RAS or go to MBA and which branch in MBA or go
to do Masters or work in private sector.

Honestly speaking, I was so confused at that time.
Because, I didn't know pros and cons of each of the
options.

I wish, this group and Ishwar Almighty would have been
there to guide people like me.

Regards
Pavan Rathore

--- Ishwar S Shekhawat <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Respected Members,
> Jai Mataji,
> I would like to share some tips on trend in jobs and
> career for
> consideration of our members. Since I am a part of
> Human Resource
> Development (HRD) dept, I am little bit aware of
> what trend is going
> on and what would be the future trend for career and
> jobs.
>
> · MBA - Those who are aspiring to be an MBA should
> go for
> specialization in HRD, MARKETING with specialization
> in International
> marketing, Product & brand management, MBA in
> Logistics and Supply
> Chain. HR is the BOSS dept in any company/Industry;
> HR is one area,
> which would ever remain good career prospects. MBA -
> HR is best for a
> girl if she is aspiring to be an MBA. Secondly,
> there is huge demand
> for good smart marketing people but the person who
> is aspiring to be
> an MBA in Marketing should have the great
> communication skills, flair
> and connoisseur for sales and management, to be a
> successful person
> in Marketing.
> · MBA - Finance is one field that would be hot in
> demand.
> Taxation, costing, acquisition and mergers. Future
> is going to
> witness acquisitions and mergers of companies and
> finance managers
> would be most sought after entity.
>
> MBA should be done from a good or reputed Institute
> else one may not
> get into top companies. Resume should also be
> written in impressive
> way with stress on objective and what you can give
> to the employer
> company. If your resume is not effectively written
> it may end up in
> dustbin, cause companies receive a lot numbers of
> resume for a post
> and Managers don't have time to go through each
> resume they just look
> at the objective, Institutes where you have studied.
>
> · After (2005) implementation of WHO norms in
> Pharmaceuticals
> sector there is going to be huge demand in research
> and development.
> People with Masters in Pharmacy, PhD (Chemistry) in
> organic,
> analytical, novel drug delivery system and M.Sc in
> Biotechnology,
> Genetics and chemicals would be in great demand.
> · For girls again pharma is most excellent field to
> work with.
> Girls should opt for analytical research, clinical
> research,
> Pharmacology, formulation & development while doing
> Masters in
> Pharmacy.
>
> I have mentioned only a few areas that I know
> especially. Other
> members can also contribute such information for the
> benefit of our
> young aspirants in their area of specialization.
> Regards
> Ishwar S Shekhawat
>

Dear Rakesh Singh Ji, Welcome to the group !! Please introduce your self to the group. Thanks & Regards Pavan Rathore

Dear Rupaba, Thanks for your kind words. I hope I will do my best for our community and I feel proud to be member of RW family. Regards n Jai Mataji, Anop S Rathore --- In [email protected], Rupa Jadeja <rupa_g_jadeja@y...> wrote: > Respected Anoop Sir > > Jay Mataji n saader Pranam sir!!! > > On behalf of this Vibrant, Vivacious and intellegent group with lot of excellence and activities I welcome you on this Rajputana Platform and request that you guide us from time to time!! > > Regards > Rupaba > > Anoop mertiya <anoopmertiya@y...> wrote: > Respected members, > first of all I would like to congratulate Sh.Pavan Rathore & Sh.Ishawar S Shekhawat for the new appointment.I Have joined this group few days back when HALDI GHAT TI was on but now each and every thing resolved by the sincere efforts of Sh.M B Chudasamaji and all active and mature member of the group.here i wish to mention few line :- > AHLE DANA CHAHIYE WAQT KE FARMAN KO, SAMAYE BADLE DABAL JANA CHAHIYE INSAN KO,JONA BADLE DEKH KE IS WAQT KE TOOFAN KO UDA DETA HAI THOKARAN MEIN WAQT US NADAN KO. > The mail written by Rupa Jadeja ji (Coffee beans) & Ishawar Shekhawat Ji (trend in career jobs) are really EXCELLENT keep it up. > Myself Anop S Rathore of jaipur working with a pharma company in Ahemdabad took voluntary retirement from BSFafter completion of 22 Yrs.service.I have served in SPECIAL PROTECTION GROUP NEW DELHI for the period of app.13 Yrs.(1985 to 1998).in BSF I took active part in op's blue star in 1984, OP' Vi jay in kargil 1999.before joining this pharma company was commanding BSF camel wing at Jodh pur and has led the BSF camel contingent twice on REPUBLIC DAY PARADE 2002 & 2003. > Thanks > With warm regards > Anoop s Rathore >

Dear Shri Chudasamaji, Thanks for your encouraging words. Rest assured RW now feel more secure and safe. Regards n Jai Mataji, Anop S Rathore --- In [email protected], "M. B. Chudasama" <mbchudas@e...> wrote: > Dear Anop Rathoreji, > > We all feel secured on group caz we have one more fauji( !!) from BSF and SPG and on top all mighty 'Ishwar' to make our raksha !! hehehehe. > > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anoop mertiya > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] New Moderating team > > > Respected members, > first of all I would like to congratulate Sh.Pavan Rathore & Sh.Ishawar S Shekhawat for the new appointment.I Have joined this group few days back when HALDI GHAT TI was on but now each and every thing resolved by the sincere efforts of Sh.M B Chudasamaji and all active and mature member of the group.here i wish to mention few line :- > AHLE DANA CHAHIYE WAQT KE FARMAN KO, SAMAYE BADLE DABAL JANA CHAHIYE INSAN KO,JONA BADLE DEKH KE IS WAQT KE TOOFAN KO UDA DETA HAI THOKARAN MEIN WAQT US NADAN KO. > The mail written by Rupa Jadeja ji (Coffee beans) & Ishawar Shekhawat Ji (trend in career jobs) are really EXCELLENT keep it up. > Myself Anop S Rathore of jaipur working with a pharma company in Ahemdabad took voluntary retirement from BSFafter completion of 22 Yrs.service.I have served in SPECIAL PROTECTION GROUP NEW DELHI for the period of app.13 Yrs.(1985 to 1998).in BSF I took active part in op's blue star in 1984, OP' Vi jay in kargil 1999.before joining this pharma company was commanding BSF camel wing at Jodh pur and has led the BSF camel contingent twice on REPUBLIC DAY PARADE 2002 & 2003. > Thanks > With warm regards > Anoop s Rathore > "M. B. Chudasama" <mbchudas@e...> wrote: > > > Dear All friends, > > As our group is planning some social activities, projects and mission to be carried out we require some capable helping hands for our future objectives. I am happy to announce that request i made to two of our beloved members Pavansa Rathore and Iswarjee Shekhawat to be on Moderating Team to share responsibility for this noble cause has been accepted by them. Being on Moderating Team their responsibility towards group and so to community have now increased with this new responsibility and assignment. > Mahendra Rana is joking with all message putting his name with additional degree of Kicked out Moderator but to clarify that he is still like patron in chief for Modearting Team and so is Rupaba. They are temporarily away but not out from team. > > So our new team will of me, Ajay, Alok, Ajit, Artiji, Pavansa, Ishwarjee Shekhawat Plus all our esteemed members who too enjoys equal privileges and responsibilities. > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai >

Respected Anoop Sir Jay Mataji n saader Pranam sir!!! On behalf of this Vibrant, Vivacious and intellegent group with lot of excellence and activities I welcome you on this Rajputana Platform and request that you guide us from time to time!! Regards Rupaba Anoop mertiya <[email protected]> wrote: Respected members, first of all I would like to congratulate Sh.Pavan Rathore & Sh.Ishawar S Shekhawat for the new appointment.I Have joined this group few days back when HALDI GHAT TI was on but now each and every thing resolved by the sincere efforts of Sh.M B Chudasamaji and all active and mature member of the group.here i wish to mention few line :- AHLE DANA CHAHIYE WAQT KE FARMAN KO, SAMAYE BADLE DABAL JANA CHAHIYE INSAN KO,JONA BADLE DEKH KE IS WAQT KE TOOFAN KO UDA DETA HAI THOKARAN MEIN WAQT US NADAN KO. The mail written by Rupa Jadeja ji (Coffee beans) & Ishawar Shekhawat Ji (trend in career jobs) are really EXCELLENT keep it up. Myself Anop S Rathore of jaipur working with a pharma company in Ahemdabad took voluntary retirement from BSFafter completion of 22 Yrs.service.I have served in SPECIAL PROTECTION GROUP NEW DELHI for the period of app.13 Yrs.(1985 to 1998).in BSF I took active part in op's blue star in 1984, OP' Vi jay in kargil 1999.before joining this pharma company was commanding BSF camel wing at Jodh pur and has led the BSF camel contingent twice on REPUBLIC DAY PARADE 2002 & 2003. Thanks With warm regards Anoop s Rathore

Dear Ishwarji and Rupaba Thank you so much for such a wonderful and informative posting.but I thinks that it all be useful for only those who are excellent in english and well convergent I thinks it all will not be much useful for a 'desi bapu ' like me ??? ahia to gujarti na pan fanfa hoy, dirdh 'E' and laghu 'e' ma pan kai gatagam na padti hoy tya aa to badhu pothi mana ringla jevu lage !!! ane rahi communication and HR ni vaat. le aapan ne to a falani falani ni guest booku sign karta aavde !! emay salu kyarek to 'ba' na page pan padi javay !!! please mari guestbook sign karo ne, hu to ahi koi ne olkhato pan nathi !! tame mara frnd bansho ?? 2- 3 di javab na aave to vali risay javanu "eem tame mari sathe vaat nathi karva mangta ... ok bye !!! Istn't its funny ???? bicharav amara vadvaav !!! A divas ni kalpna hot to e loko e lagan j na karya hot !!!! Rajputo kya thi kya pahochi gaya !!! no dignity,no culture,no value no maturity !!! whats there is a differecen then between a rajput and a non rajput ?? just dts of a surname ?? With regards Mahendra Rana P.S. Dear members just to avoid anykind of misunderstanding and unnecessary heating,I would like to request to all to refrain away from commenting untill and unless you gets the real theme of this messege.i used some words of gujarti just for some fun and for some better meaning and no other intenstion behind it. still many of us can explain you in english that what that words will stand for !!! --- In [email protected], Rupaa Jadeja <rupa_g_jadeja@y...> wrote: > Excellent!! brilliant piece of information Ishwarji.... > > I would just add a little to it that MBA in Communications gives you a strong foothold in Marketing, sales, Diplomatic, Government High positions jobs etc. > > As along with a good HR(Human Resources Skills) combined by a very strong Communications skill one can never go wrong!! > > If you need help on learning via Open University in UK and giving exams by any of the UK Board please let me know and I will be pleased to help you out! OR if you want to personally find out about many courses in person and want to visit our British Council offices in India please let me know and I will provide with name, address and email ids. > > U do not have to bear the expenses of coming and studying in UK. as you can do this in the country of your residence thus cost cutting but gaining an Internationally Recognised Degree!! > > Thanks, Regards and Jay Mataji to all > Rupaba Jadeja, London > > Ishwar S Shekhawat <shekhaji@y...> wrote: > > Respected Members, > Jai Mataji, > I would like to share some tips on trend in jobs and career for > consideration of our members. Since I am a part of Human Resource > Development (HRD) dept, I am little bit aware of what trend is going > on and what would be the future trend for career and jobs. > > · MBA – Those who are aspiring to be an MBA should go for > specialization in HRD, MARKETING with specialization in International > marketing, Product & brand management, MBA in Logistics and Supply > Chain. HR is the BOSS dept in any company/Industry; HR is one area, > which would ever remain good career prospects. MBA – HR is best for a > girl if she is aspiring to be an MBA. Secondly, there is huge demand > for good smart marketing people but the person who is aspiring to be > an MBA in Marketing should have the great communication skills, flair > and connoisseur for sales and management, to be a successful person > in Marketing. > · MBA – Finance is one field that would be hot in demand. > Taxation, costing, acquisition and mergers. Future is going to > witness acquisitions and mergers of companies and finance managers > would be most sought after entity. > > MBA should be done from a good or reputed Institute else one may not > get into top companies. Resume should also be written in impressive > way with stress on objective and what you can give to the employer > company. If your resume is not effectively written it may end up in > dustbin, cause companies receive a lot numbers of resume for a post > and Managers don't have time to go through each resume they just look > at the objective, Institutes where you have studied. > > · After (2005) implementation of WHO norms in Pharmaceuticals > sector there is going to be huge demand in research and development. > People with Masters in Pharmacy, PhD (Chemistry) in organic, > analytical, novel drug delivery system and M.Sc in Biotechnology, > Genetics and chemicals would be in great demand. > · For girls again pharma is most excellent field to work with. > Girls should opt for analytical research, clinical research, > Pharmacology, formulation & development while doing Masters in > Pharmacy. > > I have mentioned only a few areas that I know especially. Other > members can also contribute such information for the benefit of our > young aspirants in their area of specialization. > Regards > Ishwar S Shekhawat

Dear Anop Rathoreji, We all feel secured on group caz we have one more fauji( !!) from BSF and SPG and on top all mighty 'Ishwar' to make our raksha !! hehehehe. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: Anoop mertiya To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] New Moderating team Respected members, first of all I would like to congratulate Sh.Pavan Rathore & Sh.Ishawar S Shekhawat for the new appointment.I Have joined this group few days back when HALDI GHAT TI was on but now each and every thing resolved by the sincere efforts of Sh.M B Chudasamaji and all active and mature member of the group.here i wish to mention few line :- AHLE DANA CHAHIYE WAQT KE FARMAN KO, SAMAYE BADLE DABAL JANA CHAHIYE INSAN KO,JONA BADLE DEKH KE IS WAQT KE TOOFAN KO UDA DETA HAI THOKARAN MEIN WAQT US NADAN KO. The mail written by Rupa Jadeja ji (Coffee beans) & Ishawar Shekhawat Ji (trend in career jobs) are really EXCELLENT keep it up. Myself Anop S Rathore of jaipur working with a pharma company in Ahemdabad took voluntary retirement from BSFafter completion of 22 Yrs.service.I have served in SPECIAL PROTECTION GROUP NEW DELHI for the period of app.13 Yrs.(1985 to 1998).in BSF I took active part in op's blue star in 1984, OP' Vi jay in kargil 1999.before joining this pharma company was commanding BSF camel wing at Jodh pur and has led the BSF camel contingent twice on REPUBLIC DAY PARADE 2002 & 2003. Thanks With warm regards Anoop s Rathore "M. B. Chudasama" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear All friends, As our group is planning some social activities, projects and mission to be carried out we require some capable helping hands for our future objectives. I am happy to announce that request i made to two of our beloved members Pavansa Rathore and Iswarjee Shekhawat to be on Moderating Team to share responsibility for this noble cause has been accepted by them. Being on Moderating Team their responsibility towards group and so to community have now increased with this new responsibility and assignment. Mahendra Rana is joking with all message putting his name with additional degree of Kicked out Moderator but to clarify that he is still like patron in chief for Modearting Team and so is Rupaba. They are temporarily away but not out from team. So our new team will of me, Ajay, Alok, Ajit, Artiji, Pavansa, Ishwarjee Shekhawat Plus all our esteemed members who too enjoys equal privileges and responsibilities. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

Dear Zala Bhagirathsinh and all friends, Thanks for your mail and understanding for community. This group is created for Rajput community purpose only to share news and views from around world. Actually it is you all members who can share any information from Baroda or from any other place among us all. There is nothing like editorial board to compile and release the things in set of papers or magazine like. Here each one of us is editor to put the things directly on Message board to be circulated same moment through out the world and not like fixed date monthly publication followed by physical postings of content. Here our publication goes every minute and any minutes. This is unique of modern cyber world and it is up to each of you to exploit maximum benefit of this modern communication tool. For Baroda activities no specific information so far has posted out in any messages but we did have provided web link for Baroda Matrimonial site covering some information of Vadodara Rajput Yuva Association led by Dodia Chetansinh Ranavirsinh and Maharaul Vikramsinh Natvarsinh at group's web home page at Link section at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/links . If you have any to share among please go ahead as like esteemed family member of this group. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: bhagirath zala To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] All the best to the Group Leader Thanks for the the giving tips & next thing we r in society but i proud on my community so i specify in my mail that sir, u got any information abut the Barodian activities for the Rajput Samaj from any sources ? "M. B. Chudasama" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Zala Bhagirathsinh and Jadeja Rohitsinhji, your mail is bit confusing what meant out of 'some unneccery mail transrer' ? but sujjession is well comed from each and every one if some thing going wrong on board here. as long as various subject threads are concern it is matter of choice some may like certain things which other may not. Any things of not liking of any body can ignore postings or can opt for mail preferences whether to recieves all mails in email box or not. yahoo group sites are having all those option to recieve all mails, or once in day ( daily digest ) or not at all ( no mail ). though we are social community group does not mean we should not talk any thing other than comminity. we are part of other society, aren't we ? things on message board goes individually from some of members and again it comes out as blend so again it is up to each one to decide what things to choose from blend. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: bhagirath zala To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:53 AM Subject: [RajputWorld ] All the best to the Group Leader Jai Mataji After the joining the group of rajputworld we get good information abut the our community. But still in this group some unneccery mail transrer the all members of group so plz do something for that. We like to read & discuss abut our community. Zala Bhagirathsinh B. Jadeja Rohitsinhji R. (BARODA)

Respected & beloved Members, Jai Mataji, I thank Respected Chudasamaji, for adding my name in moderator's team and confidence shown in me. I would shoulder this responsibility with my best capability, understanding and cooperation from our beloved members. I would like to say few lines here. Things will never change, until we imbibe the faith that "we can change". Having imbibed the faith that we can change, we should fortify it with deeds. Thus, we shall change and help change. Nothing ever changed on its own! The force of change should envelop us. In latter and spirit, let's integrate ourselves. Together, our `energies' can combat any competition/obstacles. Thanks n regards to all, Ishwar S Shekhawat

Respected members, first of all I would like to congratulate Sh.Pavan Rathore & Sh.Ishawar S Shekhawat for the new appointment.I Have joined this group few days back when HALDI GHAT TI was on but now each and every thing resolved by the sincere efforts of Sh.M B Chudasamaji and all active and mature member of the group.here i wish to mention few line :- AHLE DANA CHAHIYE WAQT KE FARMAN KO, SAMAYE BADLE DABAL JANA CHAHIYE INSAN KO,JONA BADLE DEKH KE IS WAQT KE TOOFAN KO UDA DETA HAI THOKARAN MEIN WAQT US NADAN KO. The mail written by Rupa Jadeja ji (Coffee beans) & Ishawar Shekhawat Ji (trend in career jobs) are really EXCELLENT keep it up. Myself Anop S Rathore of jaipur working with a pharma company in Ahemdabad took voluntary retirement from BSFafter completion of 22 Yrs.service.I have served in SPECIAL PROTECTION GROUP NEW DELHI for the period of app.13 Yrs.(1985 to 1998).in BSF I took active part in op's blue star in 1984, OP' Vi jay in kargil 1999.before joining this pharma company was commanding BSF camel wing at Jodh pur and has led the BSF camel contingent twice on REPUBLIC DAY PARADE 2002 & 2003. Thanks With warm regards Anoop s Rathore "M. B. Chudasama" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear All friends, As our group is planning some social activities, projects and mission to be carried out we require some capable helping hands for our future objectives. I am happy to announce that request i made to two of our beloved members Pavansa Rathore and Iswarjee Shekhawat to be on Moderating Team to share responsibility for this noble cause has been accepted by them. Being on Moderating Team their responsibility towards group and so to community have now increased with this new responsibility and assignment. Mahendra Rana is joking with all message putting his name with additional degree of Kicked out Moderator but to clarify that he is still like patron in chief for Modearting Team and so is Rupaba. They are temporarily away but not out from team. So our new team will of me, Ajay, Alok, Ajit, Artiji, Pavansa, Ishwarjee Shekhawat Plus all our esteemed members who too enjoys equal privileges and responsibilities. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

Thanks for the the giving tips & next thing we r in society but i proud on my community so i specify in my mail that sir, u got any information abut the Barodian activities for the Rajput Samaj from any sources ? "M. B. Chudasama" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Zala Bhagirathsinh and Jadeja Rohitsinhji, your mail is bit confusing what meant out of 'some unneccery mail transrer' ? but sujjession is well comed from each and every one if some thing going wrong on board here. as long as various subject threads are concern it is matter of choice some may like certain things which other may not. Any things of not liking of any body can ignore postings or can opt for mail preferences whether to recieves all mails in email box or not. yahoo group sites are having all those option to recieve all mails, or once in day ( daily digest ) or not at all ( no mail ). though we are social community group does not mean we should not talk any thing other than comminity. we are part of other society, aren't we ? things on message board goes individually from some of members and again it comes out as blend so again it is up to each one to decide what things to choose from blend. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Duba ----- Original Message ----- From: bhagirath zala To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:53 AM Subject: [RajputWorld ] All the best to the Group Leader Jai Mataji After the joining the group of rajputworld we get good information abut the our community. But still in this group some unneccery mail transrer the all members of group so plz do something for that. We like to read & discuss abut our community. Zala Bhagirathsinh B. Jadeja Rohitsinhji R. (BARODA

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Thank you Chudasamaji For your mail below.. I wish to congratulate Respected Ishwarji and my dear Pavansa and wish both of them all the best in thier modship of this brillient group. They are definitely best/better choice then I am and I heartly wish them well. Jay Mataji to all Rupaba --- In [email protected], "M. B. Chudasama" <mbchudas@e...> wrote: > Dear All friends, > > As our group is planning some social activities, projects and mission to be carried out we require some capable helping hands for our future objectives. I am happy to announce that request i made to two of our beloved members Pavansa Rathore and Iswarjee Shekhawat to be on Moderating Team to share responsibility for this noble cause has been accepted by them. Being on Moderating Team their responsibility towards group and so to community have now increased with this new responsibility and assignment. > Mahendra Rana is joking with all message putting his name with additional degree of Kicked out Moderator but to clarify that he is still like patron in chief for Modearting Team and so is Rupaba. They are temporarily away but not out from team. > > So our new team will of me, Ajay, Alok, Ajit, Artiji, Pavansa, Ishwarjee Shekhawat Plus all our esteemed members who too enjoys equal privileges and responsibilities. > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

Dear Ishwarsa, thanks for the valuable information. I am glad chemists are going to be in great demand...... Sujan Shekhawat Virginia Tech, USA --- In [email protected], "Ishwar S Shekhawat" <shekhaji@y...> wrote: > > Respected Members, > Jai Mataji, > I would like to share some tips on trend in jobs and career for > consideration of our members. Since I am a part of Human Resource > Development (HRD) dept, I am little bit aware of what trend is going > on and what would be the future trend for career and jobs. > > · MBA – Those who are aspiring to be an MBA should go for > specialization in HRD, MARKETING with specialization in International > marketing, Product & brand management, MBA in Logistics and Supply > Chain. HR is the BOSS dept in any company/Industry; HR is one area, > which would ever remain good career prospects. MBA – HR is best for a > girl if she is aspiring to be an MBA. Secondly, there is huge demand > for good smart marketing people but the person who is aspiring to be > an MBA in Marketing should have the great communication skills, flair > and connoisseur for sales and management, to be a successful person > in Marketing. > · MBA – Finance is one field that would be hot in demand. > Taxation, costing, acquisition and mergers. Future is going to > witness acquisitions and mergers of companies and finance managers > would be most sought after entity. > > MBA should be done from a good or reputed Institute else one may not > get into top companies. Resume should also be written in impressive > way with stress on objective and what you can give to the employer > company. If your resume is not effectively written it may end up in > dustbin, cause companies receive a lot numbers of resume for a post > and Managers don't have time to go through each resume they just look > at the objective, Institutes where you have studied. > > · After (2005) implementation of WHO norms in Pharmaceuticals > sector there is going to be huge demand in research and development. > People with Masters in Pharmacy, PhD (Chemistry) in organic, > analytical, novel drug delivery system and M.Sc in Biotechnology, > Genetics and chemicals would be in great demand. > · For girls again pharma is most excellent field to work with. > Girls should opt for analytical research, clinical research, > Pharmacology, formulation & development while doing Masters in > Pharmacy. > > I have mentioned only a few areas that I know especially. Other > members can also contribute such information for the benefit of our > young aspirants in their area of specialization. > Regards > Ishwar S Shekhawat

Dear All friends, As our group is planning some social activities, projects and mission to be carried out we require some capable helping hands for our future objectives. I am happy to announce that request i made to two of our beloved members Pavansa Rathore and Iswarjee Shekhawat to be on Moderating Team to share responsibility for this noble cause has been accepted by them. Being on Moderating Team their responsibility towards group and so to community have now increased with this new responsibility and assignment. Mahendra Rana is joking with all message putting his name with additional degree of Kicked out Moderator but to clarify that he is still like patron in chief for Modearting Team and so is Rupaba. They are temporarily away but not out from team. So our new team will of me, Ajay, Alok, Ajit, Artiji, Pavansa, Ishwarjee Shekhawat Plus all our esteemed members who too enjoys equal privileges and responsibilities. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

All my dearest members First of all I support and congrates both Ishwarsa and Pavansa for their new responsibility. I hope that our group will achieve new heights under their able guidence and shoulders (afteall now almighty Iswar is with us ) Dear Ajayji Yes, Chudasamaji is very right that i am just joking by putting my degree after my name. no need to feel shocked/sad or there is nothing like bitterness or disagreeness with any of the members or our moderating team. I just wants to say that I takes this kind of situation so lightly !!!! So, that my head will not get 'BIG'. we already have some examples that once u diagree with someone they eigther left or get silence !! will you accept this situation ? we all are here for community purpose and not for satisfying our personal ego or scoring balance. and so its not fair that if we didn't get some meva (though i do believes and really agree with shri MBC that there is nothing special on our group as a mods. all the members have equal and same prevailedges except that the mods have one more command of "deleting ID " and nothing special. dts why some person on our groups wants this group to turn restrcited !!!) Yes, I will also like our shy members to be brave enough to say in public if there something is wrong at mine or others end !! I will never hesitate for a public appology( if i had a mistake) but its really a shameful situation to play a "politics under the stage" Even if i will find anything wrong in my behaviour then i will aslo try to make it correct too !!! the only condition is that our such shy members MUST prove their creditability for advising me and telling me that where I am wrong and what i did wrong !!! With regards Mahendra Rana --- In [email protected], &quoot;M. B. Chudasama" <mbchudas@e...> wrote: > > > Dear All friends, > > As our group is planning some social activities, projects and mission to be carried out we require some capable helping hands for our future objectives. I am happy to announce that request i made to two of our beloved members Pavansa Rathore and Iswarjee Shekhawat to be on Moderating Team to share responsibility for this noble cause has been accepted by them. Being on Moderating Team their responsibility towards group and so to community have now increased with this new responsibility and assignment. > Mahendra Rana is joking with all message putting his name with additional degree of Kicked out Moderator but to clarify that he is still like patron in chief for Modearting Team and so is Rupaba. They are temporarily away but not out from team. > > So our new team will of me, Ajay, Alok, Ajit, Artiji, Pavansa, Ishwarjee Shekhawat Plus all our esteemed members who too enjoys equal privileges and responsibilities. > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

>
> Hello Mahendar,
>
> It was a pleasure having you as part of the moderators
> team. But its very unfortunate that you want to go
> about and discuss these issue in the group. Lets look
> back to the reason why we started this group and what
> we expected from the Moderators.
>
> 1. The group was to foster brotherhood and provide a
> platform for communication and better ment of Rajput
> community globally. It defintelly was not as a
> grivience handeling forum.
> 2. The Moderators are expected the play the role of
> moderating. Which means they need to step into
> situations where there is an issue and resolve the
> same. Its only human to make impulsive moves and with
> time you tend to mature and handle situations
> differentlly. I have gone through the same learning as
> well.. where i used to take every mail personally and
> react, but then key is to empathise with the other
> point of view and look rationally.
>
> What is disheartning is that we lost one moderator and
> today we need to step into look at your request to be
> moderated weather you should be part of the group.
> This is a group where there are incidents that happen
> and will continue to occur. We have to take a very
> positive outlook to it and we have done that if not
> this group should have shattered during the Sonia
> Ghandi issue or the Muslim Rajput issue, but we pulled
> through the same. I am sure you can also learn from
> that and move on and pull through that and start being
> part of the members here at Rajputworld and not an EX
> Moderator, trust me that is definetlly not something
> that other members will also respect you for. From our
> stand point we would love and welcome any Rajput
> member contributing to the betterment, But if you wish
> to leave then that again is a freedom that you can
> exercise. Personally i will find it as a loss of a
> dear member.
>
> Lets look beyond this small series of incidents and
> move forward toward a better platform.
>
> Also want to share with you that we Moderators are not
> power hungry and will not want to curtail anyone's
> freedom.. But then in the larger intrest of the group,
> we would appreciate if you could refrain from this
> outloook.
>
> Any complains / suggestion that you have for the
> moderators pls address it to us at
> [email protected], instead of to the
> whole group.
>
> I look forward to your participation in the group.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Ajay Kumar Singh P
> Moderator
> --- Mahendra Rana <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > My Dear moderating team
> >
> >    ab to voh poll delete kar do please. Mahendra
> > Rana ko kick out hi
> > kar diya hey fir ab us poll ki jarroor hi kya hey
> > !!!!
> >
> >     Now I am waiting for a new one more poll on the
> > group from some
> > of our great shy member that mahendra rana should be
> > continue on the
> > group as a member or not !!!!
> >
> >      Mahendra Rana
> >      Ex Moderator(kicked out)
> >      Rajputworld

My dear Vandana First of all thx in understanding the REAL meaning of story coz I feel that some members have really failed to understand the meaning and message that are brought in group by these kinds of story/articles. Secondly, yes you may see my picture coz it is on this very site!! Pls go to photos sections on ur left and click!! My two photos are there for you to see! Be warned though I am very scary!! (So they say here in UK ;-) Lots Love n Regards Rupadidi --- In [email protected], singgh vandana <vandi_singh@y...> wrote: DEAR RUPABA......, YOUR STORY OR RATHER THE SENSE OF IT WAS EXCELLENT....I HAVE HEARD MANY OF THEM HERE AND THERE BUT THIS ONE IS THE BEST A REALLY ENCOURAGEING ONE. READING YOUR STORY I JUST FELT OF A WISH IF YOU DONT MIND I WANT TO SEE YOU..CAN I HAVE A PICTURE OF YOURS IF YOU DNT MIND AND IF ITS OK FOR YOU....... REGARDS VANDANA > > Rupa Jadeja <rupa_g_jadeja@y...> wrote: > > A young woman went to her mother and told her about > her life and how things were so hard for her. > > She did not know how she was going to make it and > wanted to give up. She was tired of fighting and > struggling. > > > > It seemed as one problem was solved a new one arose. > > Her mother took her to the kitchen. She filled three > pots with water. > > > > In the first, she placed carrots, In the second she placed eggs > and the last she placed ground coffee beans. > > She let them sit and boil without saying a word. > > In about twenty minutes she turned off the burners. > > > She fished the carrots out and placed them in a bowl. > She pulled the eggs out and placed them in a bowl. > > Then she ladled the coffee out and placed it in a bowl. > > > Turning to her daughter, she asked, "Tell me what do you see?" > > > "Carrots, eggs, and coffee," she replied. > > She brought her closer and asked her to feel the carrots. > She did and notes that they were soft. > > She then asked her to take an egg and break it. > > After pulling off the shell, she observed the hard-boiled > egg. > > Finally, she asked her to sip the coffee. > The daughter smiled, as she tasted its rich aroma. > > > The daughter then asked. "What's the point, mother?" > > Her mother explained that each of these objects had > faced the same adversity--boiling water--but each reacted differently. > > The carrot went in strong, hard and unrelenting. > However after being subjected to the boiling water, it softened and became weak. > > The egg had been fragile. Its thin outer shell had > protected its liquid interior But, after sitting through the boiling > water, its inside became hardened > > > > The ground coffee beans were unique, however. After they were in > the boiling water they had changed the water. > > "Which are you?" she asked her daughter. > > "When adversity knocks on your door, how do you respond? Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?" > > Think of this: Which am I? > > Am I the carrot that seems strong, but with pain and > adversity, do I wilt and become soft and lose my strength? > > Am I the egg that starts with a malleable heart, but > changes with the heat? Did I have a fluid spirit, but after a death, a break-up, a financial hardship or some other trial, have I become hardened and stiff? Does my shell look the same > but on the inside am I bitter and tough with a stiff > spirit and a hardened heart? > > Or am I like the coffee bean? > The bean actually changes the hot water, the very circumstance that brings the pain when the water gets hot, it releases the > fragrance and flavour. > > If you are like the bean, when things are at their > worst, you get better and change the situation around you. > > When the hours are the darkest and trials > are their greatest do you elevate to another level? > > How do you handle Adversity? > > > ARE YOU A CARROT, AN EGG, OR A COFFEE BEAN?? > Jaymataji to all > > Regards > > Rupaba

Dear Zala Bhagirathsinh and Jadeja Rohitsinhji, your mail is bit confusing what meant out of 'some unneccery mail transrer' ? but sujjession is well comed from each and every one if some thing going wrong on board here. as long as various subject threads are concern it is matter of choice some may like certain things which other may not. Any things of not liking of any body can ignore postings or can opt for mail preferences whether to recieves all mails in email box or not. yahoo group sites are having all those option to recieve all mails, or once in day ( daily digest ) or not at all ( no mail ). though we are social community group does not mean we should not talk any thing other than comminity. we are part of other society, aren't we ? things on message board goes individually from some of members and again it comes out as blend so again it is up to each one to decide what things to choose from blend. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Duba ----- Original Message ----- From: bhagirath zala To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:53 AM Subject: [RajputWorld ] All the best to the Group Leader Jai Mataji After the joining the group of rajputworld we get good information abut the our community. But still in this group some unneccery mail transrer the all members of group so plz do something for that. We like to read & discuss abut our community. Zala Bhagirathsinh B. Jadeja Rohitsinhji R. (BARODA)

hello Vandanaji, We on this group's web home page has allready various sections like Photos, Database, Files and Link. You can view photos of many member there including of Rupaba. You too can up load your photo there, as this group and sites are having family like bond among members and so we can share all our joy, sorrow, happyness, success or any things feel to be shared among us. Photos are at http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/lst . You and all other members i request at least to fill out details in database section there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/database so that we all can know each other who is speaking what while reading message. definateley it helps to understand things better if you know bit of its origin too. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: singh vandana To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] What r u? an Carrot an egg or an Coffee Bean?? 4 RUPABA DeaR rUPABA......, YOUR STORY OR RATHER THE SENSE OF IT WAS EXCELLENT....I HAVE HEARD MANY OF THEM HERE AND THERE BUT THIS ONE IS THE BEST A REALLY ENCOURAGEING ONE. READING YOUR STORY I JUST FELT OF A WISH IF YOU DNT WANT I WANT TO SEE YOU..CAN I HAVE A PICTURE OF YOURS IF YOU DNT MIND AND IF ITS OK FOR YOU....... REGARDS VANDANA Rupa Jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: A young woman went to her mother and told her about her life and how things were so hard for her. She did not know how she was going to make it and wanted to give up. She was tired of fighting and struggling. It seemed as one problem was solved a new one arose. Her mother took her to the kitchen. She filled three pots with water. In the first, she placed carrots, In the second she placed eggs and the last she placed ground coffee beans. She let them sit and boil without saying a word. In about twenty minutes she turned off the burners. She fished the carrots out and placed them in a bowl. She pulled the eggs out and placed them in a bowl. Then she ladled the coffee out and placed it in a bowl. Turning to her daughter, she asked, "Tell me what do you see?" "Carrots, eggs, and coffee," she replied. She brought her closer and asked her to feel the carrots. She did and notes that they were soft. She then asked her to take an egg and break it. After pulling off the shell, she observed the hard-boiled egg. Finally, she asked her to sip the coffee. The daughter smiled, as she tasted its rich aroma. The daughter then asked. "What's the point, mother?" Her mother explained that each of these objects had faced the same adversity--boiling water--but each reacted differently. The carrot went in strong, hard and unrelenting. However after being subjected to the boiling water, it softened and became weak. The egg had been fragile. Its thin outer shell had protected its liquid interior But, after sitting through the boiling water, its inside became hardened The ground coffee beans were unique, however. After they were in the boiling water they had changed the water. "Which are you?" she asked her daughter. "When adversity knocks on your door, how do you respond? Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?" Think of this: Which am I? Am I the carrot that seems strong, but with pain and adversity, do I wilt and become soft and lose my strength? Am I the egg that starts with a malleable heart, but changes with the heat? Did I have a fluid spirit, but after a death, a break-up, a financial hardship or some other trial, have I become hardened and stiff? Does my shell look the same but on the inside am I bitter and tough with a stiff spirit and a hardened heart? Or am I like the coffee bean? The bean actually changes the hot water, the very circumstance that brings the pain when the water gets hot, it releases the fragrance and flavour. If you are like the bean, when things are at their worst, you get better and change the situation around you. When the hours are the darkest and trials are their greatest do you elevate to another level? How do you handle Adversity? ARE YOU A CARROT, AN EGG, OR A COFFEE BEAN?? Jaymataji to all Regards Rupaba

Respected Members, Jai Mataji, I would like to share some tips on trend in jobs and career for consideration of our members. Since I am a part of Human Resource Development (HRD) dept, I am little bit aware of what trend is going on and what would be the future trend for career and jobs. · MBA – Those who are aspiring to be an MBA should go for specialization in HRD, MARKETING with specialization in International marketing, Product & brand management, MBA in Logistics and Supply Chain. HR is the BOSS dept in any company/Industry; HR is one area, which would ever remain good career prospects. MBA – HR is best for a girl if she is aspiring to be an MBA. Secondly, there is huge demand for good smart marketing people but the person who is aspiring to be an MBA in Marketing should have the great communication skills, flair and connoisseur for sales and management, to be a successful person in Marketing. · MBA – Finance is one field that would be hot in demand. Taxation, costing, acquisition and mergers. Future is going to witness acquisitions and mergers of companies and finance managers would be most sought after entity. MBA should be done from a good or reputed Institute else one may not get into top companies. Resume should also be written in impressive way with stress on objective and what you can give to the employer company. If your resume is not effectively written it may end up in dustbin, cause companies receive a lot numbers of resume for a post and Managers don't have time to go through each resume they just look at the objective, Institutes where you have studied. · After (2005) implementation of WHO norms in Pharmaceuticals sector there is going to be huge demand in research and development. People with Masters in Pharmacy, PhD (Chemistry) in organic, analytical, novel drug delivery system and M.Sc in Biotechnology, Genetics and chemicals would be in great demand. · For girls again pharma is most excellent field to work with. Girls should opt for analytical research, clinical research, Pharmacology, formulation & development while doing Masters in Pharmacy. I have mentioned only a few areas that I know especially. Other members can also contribute such information for the benefit of our young aspirants in their area of specialization. Regards Ishwar S Shekhawat

Dear friends, I m not sure wheather i need to post this msg on this board but i think this will help those who are looking for job opportunity in South Korea. Good Opportunities and Requirements at TCS Korea. The persons meeting the below requirements may send their resume to Mr. Shishir Parhi([email protected]) (TCS Korea Branch Manager) or to me( [email protected]) These are the Indian Developer requirements. Any persons fitting to this requirement amy send his CVs to me ASAP. a. EAI: Enterprise Architecture Integration - Required one person: Experience in Application Integration, MCA , OS 390 and IMS knowledge- Experinece 3-4 years b. Requirement- 4 persons Konowlege of CBD Methodology, Web Application Server, Relational Data base, C programming, OR mapping,and experience in Financial Industry 3-4 years coding and design experience c. Modelling and Design team-3 persons CBD component modelling and design experience CBD/RUP/UML based modelling J2EE,XML and EJB knowledge Knowledge of hybrid channel integration 3+ years of experience and 3 + projects. d. New Technology Development 3 persons Web Application Development, J2 EE, Dot Net,JSP/HTML/XML JDBC, EJB,ASP, VB Experience 5+ years e. Customer Information Integration-3 numbers Java, J2 EE based technology set CBD, UNIX - Experience 5 + years Gyanendra Singh Rana LGCNS Korea

My Dear moderating team ab to voh poll delete kar do please. Mahendra Rana ko kick out hi kar diya hey fir ab us poll ki jarroor hi kya hey !!!! Now I am waiting for a new one more poll on the group from some of our great shy member that mahendra rana should be continue on the group as a member or not !!!! Mahendra Rana Ex Moderator(kicked out) Rajputworld

Jai Mataji After the joining the group of rajputworld we get good information abut the our community. But still in this group some unneccery mail transrer the all members of group so plz do something for that. We like to read & discuss abut our community. Zala Bhagirathsinh B. Jadeja Rohitsinhji R. (BARODA)

G'Day! Which OS r u using ?,by the way try this! First, uninstall the YM then remove the registry of YM form the system ,U can do like this.. Go to "start" here u will find "run" on lower left hand side/type "regedit" press OK /u will get "registry editor" /go 2 "HKEY_CURRENT_USER "/,then "software" ,,in software u will find /"Yahoo" folder just delete it.n restart the compu. Now install the YM ,I recommend u to try with YM 5.5 first . u can get this on n Yahoo! India (http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/). Hope this will work urs rajnish --- In [email protected], &quoot;sayvari" <sayvari@y...> wrote: > > Did not work. On another forum the suggestion was to install then > older version of Yahoo messenger 5.6 but I could only get Messenger > 5.0 (at oldversion.com). > > Any other ideas are welcome. > > Also I have Winfax installed on my computer whenever the system is > started or restarted it loads up by itself even after I have deleted > the reference in the Registry? > > Any suggestions? > > Regards, > > Sayvari > > > --- In [email protected], Amit <a_medico@y...> wrote: > > try this :- > > > > - remove the installed yahoo from ADD/REMOVE > > > > - delete the folder YAHOO .... MY Computer > C > Program files > > Yahoo > > > > - offline installable yahoo files is not available on official > yahoo site. > > so try this link to download it :- > > > > http://download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/ymsgr/ymsgr_1750.exe > > > > try installing.. shud work...if not..then... ummmm.... > > > > amit

Did not work. On another forum the suggestion was to install then older version of Yahoo messenger 5.6 but I could only get Messenger 5.0 (at oldversion.com). Any other ideas are welcome. Also I have Winfax installed on my computer whenever the system is started or restarted it loads up by itself even after I have deleted the reference in the Registry? Any suggestions? Regards, Sayvari

Sometimes, If you click on the link, it will say "File Not Found". You should got to Files section and then click on the Folder "Rupaba's article in press" and then click on the respective files. Thanks & Regards Pavan Rathore --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > Hello, > > This email message is a notification to let you know > that > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the > rajputworld > group. > > File : /Rupaba's article in > press/Kamlesh_Gujcom.JPG > Uploaded by : mcbapu <[email protected]> > Description : Rupaba's Gujarati article in Gujarat > Samachar, London Edition > > You can access this file at the URL: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/files/Rupaba%27s%20article%20in%20press/Kamlesh_Gujcom.JPG > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, > please visit: > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files > > Regards, > > mcbapu <[email protected]>

A young woman went to her mother and told her about her life and how things were so hard for her. She did not know how she was going to make it and wanted to give up. She was tired of fighting and struggling. It seemed as one problem was solved a new one arose. Her mother took her to the kitchen. She filled three pots with water. In the first, she placed carrots, In the second she placed eggs and the last she placed ground coffee beans. She let them sit and boil without saying a word. In about twenty minutes she turned off the burners. She fished the carrots out and placed them in a bowl. She pulled the eggs out and placed them in a bowl. Then she ladled the coffee out and placed it in a bowl. Turning to her daughter, she asked, "Tell me what do you see?" "Carrots, eggs, and coffee," she replied. She brought her closer and asked her to feel the carrots. She did and notes that they were soft. She then asked her to take an egg and break it. After pulling off the shell, she observed the hard-boiled egg. Finally, she asked her to sip the coffee. The daughter smiled, as she tasted its rich aroma. The daughter then asked. "What's the point, mother?" Her mother explained that each of these objects had faced the same adversity--boiling water--but each reacted differently. The carrot went in strong, hard and unrelenting. However after being subjected to the boiling water, it softened and became weak. The egg had been fragile. Its thin outer shell had protected its liquid interior But, after sitting through the boiling water, its inside became hardened The ground coffee beans were unique, however. After they were in the boiling water they had changed the water. "Which are you?" she asked her daughter. "When adversity knocks on your door, how do you respond? Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?" Think of this: Which am I? Am I the carrot that seems strong, but with pain and adversity, do I wilt and become soft and lose my strength? Am I the egg that starts with a malleable heart, but changes with the heat? Did I have a fluid spirit, but after a death, a break-up, a financial hardship or some other trial, have I become hardened and stiff? Does my shell look the same but on the inside am I bitter and tough with a stiff spirit and a hardened heart? Or am I like the coffee bean? The bean actually changes the hot water, the very circumstance that brings the pain when the water gets hot, it releases the fragrance and flavour. If you are like the bean, when things are at their worst, you get better and change the situation around you. When the hours are the darkest and trials are their greatest do you elevate to another level? How do you handle Adversity? ARE YOU A CARROT, AN EGG, OR A COFFEE BEAN?? Jaymataji to all Regards Rupaba

Dear Rupaba & Alok, Jai Mataji, Forebearing is God's own gift to Rajputs for enabling Rajputs to perform and excel.Embrace it with all love and affection, latent in Rajputs since generations. Thus, we shall witness and experience manifold manisfestations success for Rajput community.Only a Rajput can perform "Uncommon feats" Regards, Ishwar S Shekhawat --- In [email protected], Rupaa Jadeja <rupa_g_jadeja@y...> wrote: > My dear brother Aloksa........ > > Thank you for your mail below, I would be lieing if I say that your attack on my personal life did not have an effect on me...coz it did indeed!! > I was in turmoil and was thinking that even after 10 years of my marriage, 17 years earlier of my mistreatment from our so -called above par Rajput samaj n society and having taken the brave step as an Rajput lady to defend the honour of Rajput ladies first for my self n having learnt a lot from that personal experience and now using the same bad experience for good cause for the betterment of our samaj and for the most needy of mine and YOUR Rajput and other Hindu sisters n daughters silently all this years it really felt like a kick on the teeth!! > > See Aloksa to me if it would have been an elderly gentleman, I could understand their mentality and rigidity but from an young blood like you I was knocked back once again in 17 years of my life and felt like all my hard work of dealing and defending these tortured girls by Rajput mentalities had gone down the drains!! > > Having said that, now that you have realised your mistake of unintentionally justifying or encouraging all the mis-treatment by OUR Rajput ladies by OUR Rajput samaj I am happy to know that i will have one MORE BROTHER to fight the badness in OUR Rajput samaj of the menace of mistreatment, dowry etc and to send strong signal to samaj/society and families that either buckle up and get your acts together or prepare to loose many more children of yours if you do not change your mind sets!! > > So Finally I say to you my bro Welcome aboard!! > > Yours truly.. > > Rupadidi > > > mrapsc <mrapsc@y...> wrote: > > Beloved/Respected Members, > > As advised by our elders and friends, I wish to apologise again > for the controversy which erupted couple of days back for the two > postings. Though I didn't mean to hurt anyone in such a manner > which was unforgiven. I wish to ask forgiveness from our beloved > sister, Rupaba, and ask her to forgive me like her younger Rajput > brother. > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Alok P. S. Chauhan, > Stony Brook, NY

Dear Wizkids, My yahoo messenger gets installed but on initiating gives this error ************************************************ Y!TrayWnd:YPager.exe - Application Error The exception Floating-point zero ()xcooooo8e) occured in the application at location 0x67113b04 Click OK to terminate the program Clock on Cancel to debug the program ************************************************ Any remedies do let me know? Sayvari

Thanks a lot Ishwar Ji. Dinesh Ishwar S Shekhawat <[email protected]> wrote: D K Singh ji, "Ishwar" always smiling on our extended family(RW), so is me. You and Mahendrasa are in par excellence category. :-) :-) Regards Ishwar S Shekhawat --- In [email protected], deekay singh <dbhanauri@y...> wrote: > Ishwar Ji, > > You are doing great and we are proud of you. You have every right to praise or scold as the case may warant. So please smile on us. Any way in which category you put me and Dear Mahendra? ( Just kidding). > > Dinesh > Ishwar S Shekhawat <shekhaji@y...> wrote: > Respected Members, > Jai Mataji, > Since last two days I was out of my work place on exigencies so I > could not post and reply to many postings, which I think I should > have replied. I was amazed to see a mountain has been created out of > a mole. My name was center of the talk. I don't cosset in any such > diminutive things, I am focused and committed to Rajput girl's > education and many members are aware of this. I really don't know and > also not at all interested who is close to whom. It's in actual fact > give pain and I am in truth at pain. I only know that every RW member > is close to "Ishwar". As an elder brother I can take liberty to scold > my beloved younger brothers as far as that is in right spirit, I > truthfully consider RW is our extended family. Regarding my outburst > against dear Alok is just my outlook. Since I can't brook insult of > Rajput ladies as long as I am there. This you can dub my madness but > that is what I have been inculcated and imbibed over the years. I > would conclude this with:- > "People can be divided into three groups: Those who make things > happen; Those who watch things happen; Those who wonder what > happened". > Warm regards > Ishwar S Shekhawat > > > > > --- In [email protected], deekay singh <dbhanauri@y...> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > I wanted to let you know that I am so glad the way group has > reacted to the posting of a non rajput member. Dear Bharat, Amit, > Pavan and others were excellent in their replies. This has amply > demonstrated maturity of the members in their reactions to certain > unwanted suggestions with balanced wordings and controlled > disapproval. Very well done. I am also extremely happy with Dear > Bharat's analysis of Rajput/ Jat. It was to the point and very > thoughtful. Most of the Jats are down to earth and very hardworking. > They do not waste their time and money in wasteful activities and > showbiz which we do. The teachings of shri Dayanand Saraswati has > really helped this community verses prevalent brahminism in Rajput > community. This is also one reason for the differences in approach > between these two communities. We Rajputs need to start a fresh > support good leaders, work hard to get educated and earn and save our > money to become prosperous and start respecting another rajput. We > need to take > > care of our property and bow our heads to work and work. We will > be on top again, I gaurantee this. > > > > Mahadev hamari madad karen. > > > > > > > > Dinesh Singh Naruka > >

Hello my dear shy members..!! After many sms's, off liners, and emails from my not so shy members i am forced to come back with a bang!! BUT before I answer any of my bro's on this board; I humbly and politely request to all of you SHY members out there to consider one of the following option first... 1) Be BRAVE and come face to face if you have to criticise me, Mahendra or anybody for that matter.... OR 2) Be INTELLIGENT and choose one of the option available to you not to receive our mail..... OR 3) Be WISE and shut up moaning in background... Last but not least....STOP hounding MY beloved Moderating team i.e. Aloksa, Ajit,Ajay, Artiba and Chudasamaji with your emails of complain...simple as that If you don't like it then lump it or else defend it in TRUE Rajputana style........ :-) with LOVE N PEACE Rupaba Jadeja

Hello Pawan ji
You are right but its necessary that how we people refuse Non rajpoot’s registration.
Thanks and Regards,
Mangleshwar Singh
Delhi, India

Pavan Rrathore <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear All members,

Lets follow a small code of conduct.

This group represents Rajput Community in cyber world.
Before you tell anyone about what happens here, please
make sure that you are conveying some facts and also
make sure that it doesn't affect the reputation of
this group and hence Rajput community. Sometimes, even
if its a fact, its good to hide from some category of
people.

We all are equally responsible for maintaining the
dignity and values of this group.

I am sure we all are mature enough and understand the
consequences of our chit-chat with anyone outside.

Regards
Pavan Rathore

Dear All the Members I am quite aware about my negative image in the eyes of some of members. I wish to say few words regarding the entire happening on the group after i had become active on the group. As most of members always said that they are here only for social work or community purpose, I will say you honestly that my joining of this group was a BIG accident (latter on, so many persons got hitted and hurt by this accident. sorry just kidding)I come to this group form some other site and that time was not aware anything about a yahoo group !!! but latter on,i seen discussions were going about pretti zinta and muslim rajputs and so on!! i myself posted a totally negative messege and it was sent to the dust bin, again i posted 2nd messege and i did got response in 2 lines from our dear MBC(luccky me was!!! )advising me to come out on the board with some positive outlook/cosntructive things.during that time i had seen posting relating to doury,role of youth in politics (ofcourse these issues were really needs a lots of attention but unfourtunately they were also gone to dustbin !!!! And so, I had taken a very very different way in this group after that. To remove the doubts of members regarding my initianl bitter discussion with Rupaba, I was very very well aware (from her 2nd or 3rd posting)with her work and her noble cause for rajput girls/womens she is doing in uk (even Rupaba is too not aware with this fact that i knows too much about them and such kind of incidents so i had taken such a bitter matter with her knowingly. that time too i was well aware that most of rajput familes,rajput members afraid/hates Rupaba !!! Dear freinds till that non of my posting were motiveless,and some of my postings have more then some single targets. the biggest motive is the community and betterment of this group purpose only. Pls. compare my postings of this ill treatement of girls/RIC matters and some others with that of Priti zinta and muslim rajputs ?. Shri MBC/Rupaba are well aware with the result of this postings and i am not interested to boost myself.A real bazigar is one who never disclose his "tash ke patte' untill the game is over. Before u thinks me as a person of fickle nature,bullying/belighting behaviour, I would like to say you all that in my real life, till date no person has a honour of my 'enemy' or fighting with me.there is nothing in my dictionery like hatism,fighting,insulting. In real life i have only friends !!!! I must appreciate Bharatsa,Aloksa,Rupaba,sanjeev and ofcours myself too (a little bit only) that inspite of bitter discussion,insulting,fighing, we all are still here(nor we got silenced) and our heads never got 'BIG' as this is the problem with many of our persons who 'ruth jate hey chhoti chhti batto me!!! I supports restoring of mod'ship of Aloksa but i am sure that even if he was not restored as mod again he will not leave the group and will continue to provide his share for our community as a simple member !!! Its the biggest healthy mentality we youth have and now compare it with those who are doing social services when they fails to get some 'meva' or got criticised they leaves the feild.I personally do believes that when we wants to do something for our community then we all must be readdy to suffer something,we have to give up our own ego or self respect. I am sorry for this long email but i will conclude this by stating that when a human takes birth on the earth he/she needs a cloth which is known as "Balotiyi(in gujarati) which has no pocket and when a human dies,it again needs a cloth known as "Kafan" which also have no pocket.so my dear friends all of our journey is just from this balotiyu to kafan. nothing e.g.self respect,big head,fem,money we brings with us nor we will be able to take all this with us after death. but during this journey from "balotiyu to Kafan' if we can bring smiles on the lips of our co members,we can give some hopes to our co-members then i thinks that it will give us a true pleasure of this journey and we will not fell the burden of tireness of this long journey and this joy will give us more pleasure rather then a glass of red wines or beef Mahendra Rana

Ishwar Ji, You are doing great and we are proud of you. You have every right to praise or scold as the case may warant. So please smile on us. Any way in which category you put me and Dear Mahendra? ( Just kidding). Dinesh Ishwar S Shekhawat <[email protected]> wrote: Respected Members, Jai Mataji, Since last two days I was out of my work place on exigencies so I could not post and reply to many postings, which I think I should have replied. I was amazed to see a mountain has been created out of a mole. My name was center of the talk. I don't cosset in any such diminutive things, I am focused and committed to Rajput girl's education and many members are aware of this. I really don't know and also not at all interested who is close to whom. It's in actual fact give pain and I am in truth at pain. I only know that every RW member is close to "Ishwar". As an elder brother I can take liberty to scold my beloved younger brothers as far as that is in right spirit, I truthfully consider RW is our extended family. Regarding my outburst against dear Alok is just my outlook. Since I can't brook insult of Rajput ladies as long as I am there. This you can dub my madness but that is what I have been inculcated and imbibed over the years. I would conclude this with:- "People can be divided into three groups: Those who make things happen; Those who watch things happen; Those who wonder what happened". Warm regards Ishwar S Shekhawat --- In [email protected], deekkay singh <dbhanauri@y...> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > I wanted to let you know that I am so glad the way group has reacted to the posting of a non rajput member. Dear Bharat, Amit, Pavan and others were excellent in their replies. This has amply demonstrated maturity of the members in their reactions to certain unwanted suggestions with balanced wordings and controlled disapproval. Very well done. I am also extremely happy with Dear Bharat's analysis of Rajput/ Jat. It was to the point and very thoughtful. Most of the Jats are down to earth and very hardworking. They do not waste their time and money in wasteful activities and showbiz which we do. The teachings of shri Dayanand Saraswati has really helped this community verses prevalent brahminism in Rajput community. This is also one reason for the differences in approach between these two communities. We Rajputs need to start a fresh support good leaders, work hard to get educated and earn and save our money to become prosperous and start respecting another rajput. We need to take > care of our property and bow our heads to work and work. We will be on top again, I gaurantee this. > > Mahadev hamari madad karen. > > > > Dinesh Singh Naruka >

jai shri mahadev soory for writing after so mu7ch time. i read the mail of mr.madhu (sorry as i donot know whether he is man or woman).the act of mr. madhu is a signal of a bad trend by which people with malafied intention will try to intrude in our group and listen to our mails. mr. madhu had been honest enough to tell that he is a non rajput and has came to this group to read the mail of mr. ishwar. but imagine if mr. ishwar has written something wrong about him, then he could have harmed mr. ishwar professionally (if it has been mr. madhu control). the joining of mmr. madhu in the group, is harmful in the respect that already many of our group members were saying so much about other caste people (i dono wat to name them lest some one know their name). i wonder how he had joined despite the fact that moderators had tightened the entry procedures to check the entry of other caste members.i think moderators should discuss among themselves (not publicly plz) to do something to avoid such things.as it might be that he will come with some false name again though i do not doubt his intention. soory if i had offended someone. jai shri mahadev Singh Sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: I have never added to any chain of discussions just to avoid stressing it further. But whatever happened today is really shameful. Its a shameful act on the part of Moderators of the group who approved a non-rajput to join the group and post a message preaching us what to do. Its a very dangerous signal in fact hinting the presence of unwanted elements in the group. Its high time that we think of importance of this platform. Let it not be used to settle personal scores. Before concluding this mail I must say that those involved in creating all this farce should think about this and the consequences which may follow. Please be matured. Those who have anything to say against about what I have written pls mail me on my personal mail id. Don't make this place flooded with unwanted discussions. Regards, Snjiv Singh Pavan Rrathore <[email protected]> wrote: Dear All members, Lets follow a small code of conduct. This group represents Rajput Community in cyber world. Before you tell anyone about what happens here, please make sure that you are conveying some facts and also make sure that it doesn't affect the reputation of this group and hence Rajput community. Sometimes, even if its a fact, its good to hide from some category of people. We all are equally responsible for maintaining the dignity and values of this group. I am sure we all are mature enough and understand the consequences of our chit-chat with anyone outside. Regards Pavan Rathore

Dear all friends, I thank Alok for apologizing Rupaba for controversy irrupted on group couple of days back and hope Rupaba too will forgive and forget the entire matter as like " loving Didi " of some of our young army of members on group. This is special of our group that some of young member here some time mistakes gun trigger in jest and josh but again have understanding and positive spirit to sort out differences as like in the family. We expect few line of reply from Rupaba too of making sure that positive atmosphere is restored in group though she is too busy now are days campaigning after one of the UK's plus of international judicial battle against racial discrimination of Ms. Kmlesh Bahl case. For the reason she has been granted "brake" from the group and not " bye bye". Please take out little time of dropping few lines on this tiny media( group) too along with your busyness after real big print and electronics media. Also to run groups administrative work in better efficient manner I request our dear Pavansa to be on moderating team. Because our Mahendra Rana has shown great sportsman spirit in paving out him self from controversy of moderator ship, Rupaba busy after other important assignment and me too bit busy in some official and personal activities and group requires helping hand some body like Pavansa who too is now fully aware of "in out" of this group activities. Pls. let me have positive reply from dear Pavansa for the same. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 04:42:50 -0000, mrapsc <[email protected]> wrote: > > Beloved/Respected Members, > > As advised by our elders and friends, I wish to apologise again > for the controversy which erupted couple of days back for the two > postings. Though I didn't mean to hurt anyone in such a manner > which was unforgiven. I wish to ask forgiveness from our beloved > sister, Rupaba, and ask her to forgive me like her younger Rajput > brother. > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Alok P. S. Chauhan, > Stony Brook, NY >

Rupa jee, Namaskar, I have a serious complain ,you didn't give us any updates of Kamesh Bahl case .i think u must be busy in the samee ,if not then it is time to come out from hibernation . appka rajnishwa

Beloved/Respected Members, As advised by our elders and friends, I wish to apologise again for the controversy which erupted couple of days back for the two postings. Though I didn't mean to hurt anyone in such a manner which was unforgiven. I wish to ask forgiveness from our beloved sister, Rupaba, and ask her to forgive me like her younger Rajput brother. Thanks and Regards, Alok P. S. Chauhan, Stony Brook, NY

Dear all friends, I fully agree with Iswarjee and upset too the manner in which group is proggressing and witnessing all unfortunate devlopment. we are not here runing kitty business of selected woman in style and manner he said and i told and i thught and he misunderstood , etc of trivia matter over here. we are here with specific objective and mature enough to dicide on own for better community and group intrest rather than poll conducting or some body to advise us on each matter whom to induct in group or whom to kick out. some of us here as like D. K. Singhji, Iswarji Shekhawat, Dr. Jayendrasinhji Jadeja, Pavansa, Ajaysinghji, dr. Amit, rupaba, mahendra rana, bharat, rajnish, dr. sumer ji , sanjeev and many other active member are seasoned and mature enough to decide better community intrest rather than indulging in mere debating or discussing and targeting one another for nothing. we have credential of action and field work of our c laim and talk and not here are mere talking big with mouse and key key board. we have got all right to scold or to guide younger and junior because of virtue of some of our credential. i get irritated many time some member with out considering his own size or act will coment some thing like advising us or leaving group in style as like Rupesh. always keep one thing in mind prove your self before advising or crtizing other or at least build asset to support your claim. i appreciate dr. amit for playing his role in very balanced and systematic point by point analysing of situation whenever undue contoversial situation arised on group. i am well aware of things happening on group. Taking Madhu in group was not going to fall sky on some body, nor alok had commited blunder in approving his message ( though was not desirable, ya but i did believe he commited blunder in his earliar two posting attacking Rupaba with manner of his langauge used, for that i am still working on matter with personal emailing for sorting out things in positive manner and i allready had claryified many things on message board clearley of priveledges and stand. he has been restored on modship with some intention and objective and no way under pressure or fear of any kind whatsoever. ) I dont want to discuss more in subject matter now but i can say one things to all those who may be thinking Mahendra Rana for fickle nature and bullying and belittling behaviour here on group that it is very very dificult for many over here to understand cherecter like him. Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai --- In [email protected], &quoot;Ishwar S Shekhawat" <shekhaji@y...> wrote: > Respected Members, > Jai Mataji, > Since last two days I was out of my work place on exigencies so I > could not post and reply to many postings, which I think I should > have replied. I was amazed to see a mountain has been created out of > a mole. My name was center of the talk. I don't cosset in any such > diminutive things, I am focused and committed to Rajput girl's > education and many members are aware of this. I really don't know and > also not at all interested who is close to whom. It's in actual fact > give pain and I am in truth at pain. I only know that every RW member > is close to "Ishwar". As an elder brother I can take liberty to scold > my beloved younger brothers as far as that is in right spirit, I > truthfully consider RW is our extended family. Regarding my outburst > against dear Alok is just my outlook. Since I can't brook insult of > Rajput ladies as long as I am there. This you can dub my madness but > that is what I have been inculcated and imbibed over the years. I > would conclude this with:- > "People can be divided into three groups: Those who make things > happen; Those who watch things happen; Those who wonder what > happened". > Warm regards > Ishwar S Shekhawat

Respected Members, Jai Mataji, Since last two days I was out of my work place on exigencies so I could not post and reply to many postings, which I think I should have replied. I was amazed to see a mountain has been created out of a mole. My name was center of the talk. I don't cosset in any such diminutive things, I am focused and committed to Rajput girl's education and many members are aware of this. I really don't know and also not at all interested who is close to whom. It's in actual fact give pain and I am in truth at pain. I only know that every RW member is close to "Ishwar". As an elder brother I can take liberty to scold my beloved younger brothers as far as that is in right spirit, I truthfully consider RW is our extended family. Regarding my outburst against dear Alok is just my outlook. Since I can't brook insult of Rajput ladies as long as I am there. This you can dub my madness but that is what I have been inculcated and imbibed over the years. I would conclude this with:- "People can be divided into three groups: Those who make things happen; Those who watch things happen; Those who wonder what happened". Warm regards Ishwar S Shekhawat --- In [email protected], deekkay singh <dbhanauri@y...> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > I wanted to let you know that I am so glad the way group has reacted to the posting of a non rajput member. Dear Bharat, Amit, Pavan and others were excellent in their replies. This has amply demonstrated maturity of the members in their reactions to certain unwanted suggestions with balanced wordings and controlled disapproval. Very well done. I am also extremely happy with Dear Bharat's analysis of Rajput/ Jat. It was to the point and very thoughtful. Most of the Jats are down to earth and very hardworking. They do not waste their time and money in wasteful activities and showbiz which we do. The teachings of shri Dayanand Saraswati has really helped this community verses prevalent brahminism in Rajput community. This is also one reason for the differences in approach between these two communities. We Rajputs need to start a fresh support good leaders, work hard to get educated and earn and save our money to become prosperous and start respecting another rajput. We need to take > care of our property and bow our heads to work and work. We will be on top again, I gaurantee this. > > Mahadev hamari madad karen. > > > > Dinesh Singh Naruka

Thanks a ton to Dr. Rathore brothers!!! Regards Ishwar Shekhawat --- In [email protected], "M. B. Chudasama" <mbchudas@e...> wrote: > Dear all friends, > I have just up loaded news paper cuttings of news of free medical camp held at Jodhpur on last Sunday, 26 Sept. 2004 which is shared here among us like family events of us all. For the information of all those that Dr. Jaivir sinh Rathore is also member of this group (he too is moderating member but, I have stopped using this titles all are equal esteemed member here) and is not able to be active partner caz of his preparation one of competitive exam his preparing for his post graduation medicine practice in US called USMLE. His elder brother dr. Ranvirsinh Rathore last year in same exam scored out standing success and so his younger preparing with equal aspiration. > Late shri Mahendrasinh memorial free medical camp was held at BJS school, BJS colony, Jodhpur on last Sunday, 26 Sept. 2004 where in more than 2,500 patience were treated with free medicine, eye testing and other diagnostic check up was carried out in the presence of leading digntieries and guest like HH hemalata Raje, dr. Narayanshinhji Maneklav ( m.p), and other vips you can read out detailed paper cuttings uploaded at file section. > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai >

Dear all friends, I have just up loaded news paper cuttings of news of free medical camp held at Jodhpur on last Sunday, 26 Sept. 2004 which is shared here among us like family events of us all. For the information of all those that Dr. Jaivir sinh Rathore is also member of this group (he too is moderating member but, I have stopped using this titles all are equal esteemed member here) and is not able to be active partner caz of his preparation one of competitive exam his preparing for his post graduation medicine practice in US called USMLE. His elder brother dr. Ranvirsinh Rathore last year in same exam scored out standing success and so his younger preparing with equal aspiration. Late shri Mahendrasinh memorial free medical camp was held at BJS school, BJS colony, Jodhpur on last Sunday, 26 Sept. 2004 where in more than 2,500 patience were treated with free medicine, eye testing and other diagnostic check up was carried out in the presence of leading digntieries and guest like HH hemalata Raje, dr. Narayanshinhji Maneklav ( m.p), and other vips you can read out detailed paper cuttings uploaded at file section. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

Thanks! Good news. Shailu <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Members, A week back we had lot of discussion regarding the arrest of Ranveer Singh Gudha. Finally he has been released on bail as no charges were filed within 60 days against him.

Respected M B Chudasamaji, Naresh Singhji, Pawansa, Sujansa and other beloved members. Jai Mataji, It’s really inspirational to be acquainted with that members are coming forward to act/contribute something affirmative/constructive for the Rajput community. Shri Naresh Singhji has raised several excellent points, which we have discussed here earlier. There are many Rajput institutes working for Rajput community in the field of Rajput girl’s education and social evils prevalent among our community. I had mentioned earlier also here that KSHATRIYA YUVAK SANGH is actively working on these lines in Rajasthan, Gujarat, Mumbai, and parts of Haryana, MP and Delhi. Gujarat Yuva Rajput Sangh is one who is very active in Gujarat and is regularly in touch with members of Kshatriya Yuvak Sangh, which has, it’s Head office in Jaipur. Durga Mahila Vikash Sansthan (DMVS) is devoted to Rajput Girls education, Six years back they had started from scratch now they are planning to build (in process) a residential school near Jaipur for Rajput girl’s. Such work/projects require lot of dedication, devotion, and time, has to face many hurdles and hardship to realize dreams. Since I have been associated with the DMVS since last five years I know how difficult it is for the DMVS managers to run a Rajput girl’s hostel but they have never gave up, working relentlessly. As members have suggested that they want to help meritorious Rajput boys/girls it is there at DMVS. Most of the girls boarding in hostel are from economically poor and rural Rajput families. Many DMVS girls are being sponsored by Rajput community members who can afford to do so. Kshatriya Yuvak Sangh also extremely active and working to root out social evils prevalent in our society. They are regularly organizing meetings/Interactions and camps for Rajput women’s making them aware about changes in community. The affect of these camps and awareness camps are now visible especially in western Rajasthan, which has high percentage of illiteracy and Prada-Pratha among Rajput women’s. Last Parliamentary elections were witness when large numbers Rajput women’s in western Rajasthan turned out for voting. This was amazing, since earlier they hardly used to come out for voting. I would request revered members they can take a leaf out of such Rajput organization which are working relentlessly, without any pomp and show. I have sent DMVS samarika to many members in India and abroad. If they have gone through the samarika, they would concur with me that how a small organization can bring the fruitful change among community. Here I would like to mention the name of Shri Prem Singh, MLA (Rajasthan assembly) who has done a remarkable help/work not only for DMVS but also for Rajput community at large. What is special in it??? He is an illiterate and his story reads like rags to riches. A down to earth true and mighty Rajput, who delivers what he, says. Pawansa has already uploaded the Samarika on the net for the members. Members who know such organization could be brought to the notice of all the members for better coordination and help. We would certainly be happy to know about others institutes and organization working for our community. With warm regards, Ishwar S Shekhawat Pavan Rrathore <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Chudasama Ji, Mahenrda Ji, Naresh Ji, Sujan and all members, I strongly agree with you that this should be at institutional level rather than an individual level. We should focus on providing means and help to the institution and let the institution take care of the other part. I believe DMVS would be a perfect choice. I trust them more than myself. Ishwarsa:--- Please help us out and create a process flow from end to end and then we all can contribute our ideas and improve the process. Regards Pavan Rathore --- "M. B. Chudasama" <[email protected]> wrote: > dear Sujansa, Mahendra and Pavan, > > You all may not be aware but i wrote many months > before also on this foroum ( i forget topic > reference ) about helping poor student and > scholarship idea. actually it must be via > institutional or organisinal ( such as DMV, GYRS or > so many rajput body there ) rather than individual > basis. apart from continuty drawback other hidden > drawback is psyco and socio feelings in such > transection. one takes 'data' and other takes > 'yachak' feelings which too again can be avioded ( > or one cherecter of 'data' should be strong enough > to create family like FEELING and concept while > helping other which can go in rare case only as like > of D.K. Singhji ) if things are set via > institutional means. > > we need not come out with new body again we allready > have many. if require let some body compile list > here and one can prefer organisation of own choice. > > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mahendra Rana > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:13 PM > Subject: [RajputWorld ] Re: Message from Dr. > Naresh Singh, India > > > Dear Sujansa > > Jai Mataji > > I appreciate yours, Pavansa's and Dr. > Nareshsinghji's your > concerns for our community and our society and > belive me we majority > of persons are here only for this purpose. > > Dear Sujansa,we also appreciate your > scholarship of idea of > helping our needed educated students but i have a > little bit > difference about this. I thinks helping such > students on personal > level is not a wise or practical idea. the best > way to help them is > through some instituanal lever. for e.g. suppose i > starts helping 1 > or 2 students and after 2-3 year if i will lost my > job/business then > what will happend with the futures of this > students of whose expenses > i am bearing !!!! > > Please give some time to the group in this > regards and we all are > with you . one should not thinks that here only > history is important > with regards > Mahendra Rana > Rajkot > > --- In [email protected], "SUJAN S > SHEKHAWAT" > <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > Dear Nareshsa, jai mata ji ki. Your message was > a welcome change on > > the group. It looked like everone on this group > is more interested > in > > basking in the glory of our ancestors. > Fortunately there are some > > sensible postings like that of yours besides > those crapy > discussions > > about our history and origins. > > > > You have made some very nice suggestions and I > whole heartedly > > support the same. It will be interesting to see > how many members > > reply to your posting. I myself posted a few > similar messages but > > couldn't generate a lot of response though one > of my emails about > > history did invited a lot of criticism. > > > > Naresha

Dear Members, A week back we had lot of discussion regarding the arrest of Ranveer Singh Gudha. Finally he has been released on bail as no charges were filed within 60 days against him.

Dear Chudasama Ji, Mahenrda Ji, Naresh Ji, Pavansa and all the members. Ofcourse the scholarship idea will work better at an institutional level. The individual thing was just another idea to share with the group. I have one more thing to add to this scholarship program idea. I was thinking, may be we can launch a fund collection drive with the name " EK BATA SAU" , what I mean by that is , everyone who is willing to be a part of this scholarship program should make a contribution amounting to 1/100th of his/her salary every month and then that money can be given to the institution we choose ( say DMVS), they can identify the needy students and use the money accordingly. I think this is a very practical thing and can be implemmented with some planning.The senior members can work on it. Jai mata ji ki SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT Graduate student Virginia Tech , USA --- In [email protected], Pavaan Rrathore <prrathore@y...> wrote: > Dear Chudasama Ji, Mahenrda Ji, Naresh Ji, Sujan and > all members, > > I strongly agree with you that this should be at > institutional level rather than an individual level. > > We should focus on providing means and help to the > institution and let the institution take care of the > other part. > > I believe DMVS would be a perfect choice. I trust them > more than myself. > > Ishwarsa:--- Please help us out and create a process > flow from end to end and then we all can contribute > our ideas and improve the process. > > Regards > Pavan Rathore > > > --- "M. B. Chudasama" <mbchudas@e...> wrote: > > > dear Sujansa, Mahendra and Pavan, > > > > You all may not be aware but i wrote many months > > before also on this foroum ( i forget topic > > reference ) about helping poor student and > > scholarship idea. actually it must be via > > institutional or organisinal ( such as DMV, GYRS or > > so many rajput body there ) rather than individual > > basis. apart from continuty drawback other hidden > > drawback is psyco and socio feelings in such > > transection. one takes 'data' and other takes > > 'yachak' feelings which too again can be avioded ( > > or one cherecter of 'data' should be strong enough > > to create family like FEELING and concept while > > helping other which can go in rare case only as like > > of D.K. Singhji ) if things are set via > > institutional means. > > > > we need not come out with new body again we allready > > have many. if require let some body compile list > > here and one can prefer organisation of own choice. > > > > > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mahendra Rana > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:13 PM > > Subject: [RajputWorld ] Re: Message from Dr. > > Naresh Singh, India > > > > > > Dear Sujansa > > > > Jai Mataji > > > > I appreciate yours, Pavansa's and Dr. > > Nareshsinghji's your > > concerns for our community and our society and > > belive me we majority > > of persons are here only for this purpose. > > > > Dear Sujansa,we also appreciate your > > scholarship of idea of > > helping our needed educated students but i have a > > little bit > > difference about this. I thinks helping such > > students on personal > > level is not a wise or practical idea. the best > > way to help them is > > through some instituanal lever. for e.g. suppose i > > starts helping 1 > > or 2 students and after 2-3 year if i will lost my > > job/business then > > what will happend with the futures of this > > students of whose expenses > > i am bearing !!!! > > > > Please give some time to the group in this > > regards and we all are > > with you . one should not thinks that here only > > history is important > > with regards > > Mahendra Rana > > Rajkot > > > > --- In [email protected], "SUJAN S > > SHEKHAWAT" > > <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > > Dear Nareshsa, jai mata ji ki. Your message was > > a welcome change on > > > the group. It looked like everone on this group > > is more interested > > in > > > basking in the glory of our ancestors. > > Fortunately there are some > > > sensible postings like that of yours besides > > those crapy > > discussions > > > about our history and origins. > > > > > > You have made some very nice suggestions and I > > whole heartedly > > > support the same. It will be interesting to see > > how many members > > > reply to your posting. I myself posted a few > > similar messages but > > > couldn't generate a lot of response though one > > of my emails about > > > history did invited a lot of criticism. > > > > > > Naresha >

Dear Rajput Brothers and Sisters, This is where we need to take inspiration from the Muslims, they have created the ideology of Al-Qaeda (albeit similar to the Commmunist Russia's Network of spies fortunately/unfortunately dead) which has caused a gaping hole in the western economy. The Rajputs need to work on a similar ideology where each self- sufficient unit should grow in a cohesive manner utiising resources internally and where required outside groups can support its shortcomings. This way it captures the mindset of the Rajput Community and creates infrastructure for the welfare of all of us. Correct me if I am wrong. Regards, Sayvari --- In [email protected], Pavaan Rrathore <prrathore@y...> wrote: > Dear Chudasama Ji, Mahenrda Ji, Naresh Ji, Sujan and > all members, > > I strongly agree with you that this should be at > institutional level rather than an individual level. > > We should focus on providing means and help to the > institution and let the institution take care of the > other part. > > I believe DMVS would be a perfect choice. I trust them > more than myself. > > Ishwarsa:--- Please help us out and create a process > flow from end to end and then we all can contribute > our ideas and improve the process. > > Regards > Pavan Rathore > > > --- "M. B. Chudasama" <mbchudas@e...> wrote: > > > dear Sujansa, Mahendra and Pavan, > > > > You all may not be aware but i wrote many months > > before also on this foroum ( i forget topic > > reference ) about helping poor student and > > scholarship idea. actually it must be via > > institutional or organisinal ( such as DMV, GYRS or > > so many rajput body there ) rather than individual > > basis. apart from continuty drawback other hidden > > drawback is psyco and socio feelings in such > > transection. one takes 'data' and other takes > > 'yachak' feelings which too again can be avioded ( > > or one cherecter of 'data' should be strong enough > > to create family like FEELING and concept while > > helping other which can go in rare case only as like > > of D.K. Singhji ) if things are set via > > institutional means. > > > > we need not come out with new body again we allready > > have many. if require let some body compile list > > here and one can prefer organisation of own choice. > > > > > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mahendra Rana > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:13 PM > > Subject: [RajputWorld ] Re: Message from Dr. > > Naresh Singh, India > > > > > > Dear Sujansa > > > > Jai Mataji > > > > I appreciate yours, Pavansa's and Dr. > > Nareshsinghji's your > > concerns for our community and our society and > > belive me we majority > > of persons are here only for this purpose. > > > > Dear Sujansa,we also appreciate your > > scholarship of idea of > > helping our needed educated students but i have a > > little bit > > difference about this. I thinks helping such > > students on personal > > level is not a wise or practical idea. the best > > way to help them is > > through some instituanal lever. for e.g. suppose i > > starts helping 1 > > or 2 students and after 2-3 year if i will lost my > > job/business then > > what will happend with the futures of this > > students of whose expenses > > i am bearing !!!! > > > > Please give some time to the group in this > > regards and we all are > > with you . one should not thinks that here only > > history is important > > with regards > > Mahendra Rana > > Rajkot > > > > --- In [email protected], "SUJAN S > > SHEKHAWAT" > > <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > > Dear Nareshsa, jai mata ji ki. Your message was > > a welcome change on > > > the group. It looked like everone on this group > > is more interested > > in > > > basking in the glory of our ancestors. > > Fortunately there are some > > > sensible postings like that of yours besides > > those crapy > > discussions > > > about our history and origins. > > > > > > You have made some very nice suggestions and I > > whole heartedly > > > support the same. It will be interesting to see > > how many members > > > reply to your posting. I myself posted a few > > similar messages but > > > couldn't generate a lot of response though one > > of my emails about > > > history did invited a lot of criticism. > > > > > > Naresha > > >

Dear Chudasama Ji, Mahenrda Ji, Naresh Ji, Sujan and all members, I strongly agree with you that this should be at institutional level rather than an individual level. We should focus on providing means and help to the institution and let the institution take care of the other part. I believe DMVS would be a perfect choice. I trust them more than myself. Ishwarsa:--- Please help us out and create a process flow from end to end and then we all can contribute our ideas and improve the process. Regards Pavan Rathore --- "M. B. Chudasama" <[email protected]> wrote: > dear Sujansa, Mahendra and Pavan, > > You all may not be aware but i wrote many months > before also on this foroum ( i forget topic > reference ) about helping poor student and > scholarship idea. actually it must be via > institutional or organisinal ( such as DMV, GYRS or > so many rajput body there ) rather than individual > basis. apart from continuty drawback other hidden > drawback is psyco and socio feelings in such > transection. one takes 'data' and other takes > 'yachak' feelings which too again can be avioded ( > or one cherecter of 'data' should be strong enough > to create family like FEELING and concept while > helping other which can go in rare case only as like > of D.K. Singhji ) if things are set via > institutional means. > > we need not come out with new body again we allready > have many. if require let some body compile list > here and one can prefer organisation of own choice. > > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mahendra Rana > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:13 PM > Subject: [RajputWorld ] Re: Message from Dr. > Naresh Singh, India > > > Dear Sujansa > > Jai Mataji > > I appreciate yours, Pavansa's and Dr. > Nareshsinghji's your > concerns for our community and our society and > belive me we majority > of persons are here only for this purpose. > > Dear Sujansa,we also appreciate your > scholarship of idea of > helping our needed educated students but i have a > little bit > difference about this. I thinks helping such > students on personal > level is not a wise or practical idea. the best > way to help them is > through some instituanal lever. for e.g. suppose i > starts helping 1 > or 2 students and after 2-3 year if i will lost my > job/business then > what will happend with the futures of this > students of whose expenses > i am bearing !!!! > > Please give some time to the group in this > regards and we all are > with you . one should not thinks that here only > history is important > with regards > Mahendra Rana > Rajkot > > --- In [email protected], "SUJAN S > SHEKHAWAT" > <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > > Dear Nareshsa, jai mata ji ki. Your message was > a welcome change on > > the group. It looked like everone on this group > is more interested > in > > basking in the glory of our ancestors. > Fortunately there are some > > sensible postings like that of yours besides > those crapy > discussions > > about our history and origins. > > > > You have made some very nice suggestions and I > whole heartedly > > support the same. It will be interesting to see > how many members > > reply to your posting. I myself posted a few > similar messages but > > couldn't generate a lot of response though one > of my emails about > > history did invited a lot of criticism. > > > > Naresha >

Hi Rahul, Please allow me to include this story in the Hall of Heroes section of the coming website. I hope you do not file a suit for copyright violation :). Also, I request you to research and come with other true stories of our Heroes so that we do not fail to pay our homage to these great men. Bye then. And take care... Snjiv Singh chris1_dude <[email protected]> wrote: Brave man of Akshardham Hatts off .!!!!!! This mail is about one of the Great son of Mother India. So, PLEASE take some time from your busy schedule and read it with a great sense of Respect. During The Attack on Akshardham temple on 24th September 2002 this Brave man fought the Greatest battle of his life. Yes he was the N.S.G. Commando Late Mr.Surjan Singh, who sacrificed his life for the Nation. Sadly On 19th May 2004 he Lost the Toughest and Longest battle against Life exactly after 600 Days being in Coma, he lost this life. The Bullet Which hit him in the head, made him Unconcious for almost 600 days. His Family members were hoping that one day their Hero will open his eyes but he didn't. It was the Longest Wait for the family members of this Brave Man.. When the whole india was busy in Guessing Who will be the Next PM of the Country - Will it be Sonia or will it be Manmohan singh,This man was fighting his Last battle. But it's so sad that in the hype of all the Political Drama, the News abt his Death was Lost like a needle in a hay stack! Even the Leading News Papers & So Called Best News Channels of India which Works on 24 X 7 basis, failed to highlight this story of the Brave Man. Unfortunately it was mentioned somewhere on the middle page of some newspaper.....This was the Reward for the Brave task for which he lost his life. Besides his Family members, Only one thing was there with him During thoseToughest 600 days. It was there near his bed till the last Moment Can you Guess what it was ?............... It was the "Tiranga", Yes our National Flag, which was Saluting him for his Great cause. Absolutely No words can Suffice our Gratitude towards him.. If news papers refuse to cover, TV channels refuse to cover, let us do our bit.Pls forward this mail to as many people as you can. This is the only way we can Salute his Bravery... Jai Hind

dear Sujansa, Mahendra and Pavan, You all may not be aware but i wrote many months before also on this foroum ( i forget topic reference ) about helping poor student and scholarship idea. actually it must be via institutional or organisinal ( such as DMV, GYRS or so many rajput body there ) rather than individual basis. apart from continuty drawback other hidden drawback is psyco and socio feelings in such transection. one takes 'data' and other takes 'yachak' feelings which too again can be avioded ( or one cherecter of 'data' should be strong enough to create family like FEELING and concept while helping other which can go in rare case only as like of D.K. Singhji ) if things are set via institutional means. we need not come out with new body again we allready have many. if require let some body compile list here and one can prefer organisation of own choice. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: Mahendra Rana To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] Re: Message from Dr. Naresh Singh, India Dear Sujansa Jai Mataji I appreciate yours, Pavansa's and Dr. Nareshsinghji's your concerns for our community and our society and belive me we majority of persons are here only for this purpose. Dear Sujansa,we also appreciate your scholarship of idea of helping our needed educated students but i have a little bit difference about this. I thinks helping such students on personal level is not a wise or practical idea. the best way to help them is through some instituanal lever. for e.g. suppose i starts helping 1 or 2 students and after 2-3 year if i will lost my job/business then what will happend with the futures of this students of whose expenses i am bearing !!!! Please give some time to the group in this regards and we all are with you . one should not thinks that here only history is important with regards Mahendra Rana Rajkot --- In [email protected], "SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT" <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > Dear Nareshsa, jai mata ji ki. Your message was a welcome change on > the group. It looked like everone on this group is more interested in > basking in the glory of our ancestors. Fortunately there are some > sensible postings like that of yours besides those crapy discussions > about our history and origins. > > You have made some very nice suggestions and I whole heartedly > support the same. It will be interesting to see how many members > reply to your posting. I myself posted a few similar messages but > couldn't generate a lot of response though one of my emails about > history did invited a lot of criticism. > > Naresha

Brave man of Akshardham Hatts off .!!!!!! This mail is about one of the Great son of Mother India. So, PLEASE take some time from your busy schedule and read it with a great sense of Respect. During The Attack on Akshardham temple on 24th September 2002 this Brave man fought the Greatest battle of his life. Yes he was the N.S.G. Commando Late Mr.Surjan Singh, who sacrificed his life for the Nation. Sadly On 19th May 2004 he Lost the Toughest and Longest battle against Life exactly after 600 Days being in Coma, he lost this life. The Bullet Which hit him in the head, made him Unconcious for almost 600 days. His Family members were hoping that one day their Hero will open his eyes but he didn't. It was the Longest Wait for the family members of this Brave Man.. When the whole india was busy in Guessing Who will be the Next PM of the Country - Will it be Sonia or will it be Manmohan singh,This man was fighting his Last battle. But it's so sad that in the hype of all the Political Drama, the News abt his Death was Lost like a needle in a hay stack! Even the Leading News Papers & So Called Best News Channels of India which Works on 24 X 7 basis, failed to highlight this story of the Brave Man. Unfortunately it was mentioned somewhere on the middle page of some newspaper.....This was the Reward for the Brave task for which he lost his life. Besides his Family members, Only one thing was there with him During thoseToughest 600 days. It was there near his bed till the last Moment Can you Guess what it was ?............... It was the "Tiranga", Yes our National Flag, which was Saluting him for his Great cause. Absolutely No words can Suffice our Gratitude towards him.. If news papers refuse to cover, TV channels refuse to cover, let us do our bit.Pls forward this mail to as many people as you can. This is the only way we can Salute his Bravery... Jai Hind

Dear Chudasamaji Thank you so much for relieving or rather kicking me out from this post. I feels happy and honour your decision.Still i have no objection if alok or any person is the mod. on this group. it does not affect me. and belive me nobody on the world can control or affect my charactersticks,my fighting nature and spirite. ok and i am still here on the group !!! untill u kick me out of the group !! (just kidding ) Mahendra Rana Ex moderator (kicked out by the owner ) --- In [email protected], &quoot;M. B. Chudasama" <mbchudas@e...> wrote: > Dear Alok and Mahendra and all Member, > > > > For the kind information of all you that I am already too busy in my official assignment of new machine project plus of some other activity. I don't get enough time to play piece maker role with lengthy explanatory mail to pacify each time. This group was started with specific intention and objectives of bringing friendship and closeness among Rajput from all over the world. But instead it plays its role other way bringing hate among one another. > > I am having good respect and trust for Alok so far but I have to write this very painfully and hatefully what has gone wrong with him that in spite of my appeal and request to observe team spirit and stop spoiling atmosphere he still continued his bombardment this time again for moderator ship of Mahendra. What do you all think just making some body additional moderator his power / privileges / or reputation gets reduced ?. I am been keep on telling on numbers of time that every body over here enjoys equal privileges and nobody is placed under restrictive modes for pre approval moderator /owner or member all having equal privileges in message posting, file uploading, photo uploading, poll creating, database or any other tabulation creating of their own choice, members list with on line status, plus all such futures are enjoyed equally among. Very honestly speaking nothing work or time has to be spent out by any body as moderator. Every thing is automated here. Me, Alok, Mahendra or no body can not boast of our assignment as moderator as like spent our precious time for so many months except recommending or inviting few friends for joining of group. For the information of all those that i am no way interested in number game here showing so many dull and dummy members rather interested in qualitative crowd here. I have big mail id list of Rajputs from around world and if want can increase membership number in many fold but as told i want only people to join on their own interest. I will go up to the extent let Alok scan his own balance sheet for advantages verses damages for his contribution for group. I will say ( though may not be his intention , I am sorry to write this ugly, painful and bitter truth for him ) he unknowingly has damaged more by bringing one of most painful and torturous member and shutting up some gem active members by his unknown mistake. Most tedious part of this group of uploading all messages on Archive geocite ( http://www.geocities.com/rajput_world/ )- with removing common text and advertising part from each individual messages -- are carried out by me. ( my non Indian secretary who does not know even R of Rajput is kept busy many time for this my personal ( !!??) work in office ) . > > Mahendra Rana though out spoken has taken all the pain in writing so many postings ( I think maximum may be up to 150 or more compare to any body ) with so many of his postings are really worth thinking and instead of appreciating him telling openly in humiliating or insulting manner not accepting his moderator ship. Who gives right to you for some body? > > I hate to right all this things but today Alok has forced me to open out my mouth. For the information all here that we have not made or bound for any constitution to go in democratic style. Plus we all are aware of draw back democratic style of poll and number game. Alok is very much aware poll conduction and its draw back here. What do you want to divide people on the name of poll who has favored and who has gone against? ( As he being moderator can read out list of participant and votes ) we are not running here big organization nor are any authorized body to exercise any power and does not require all this drama on all occasion specifically when it come some thing like dividing people just for post of no value. poll can be okay for sime issue based intention but not all will serve any purpose that do you support Mahendra or Rupaba or Alok as moderator or not. > > > > Considering all this unfortunate development and again to save it from further damage and to create team spirit I am forced today with my decision ( it is sad and painful decision for me, though I my self was totally against for this move ) . I being resident of nondemocratic country ( United Arab Emirates, Dubai ) for last 12 years know and understand very well plus and minus of democratic set up. > > > > It has been decided by me (though most painful and hate full for me) to relieve both Mahendra Rana and Alok from this (precious time wasting!!??) work. As for me it will be more unfair or even may be insult full for some body just to remove Mahendra upon appeal from Alok. I am here playing role some thing like storey of that "Monkey and two fighting cat for dividing Roti in two equal half." > > Both are still my trusted and respective friend and should not feel like insult or humiliating act of mine but simple disciplinary action again for the better interest of group and community. > > > > Thanks Mataji and God I am capable and wise enough to run the group with out help of two my dear friends and so need not to post any more postings by any body favoring or critising (though allowed) or sympathizing with one and attacking other on this subject thread. Enough we want to work in team spirit manner. > > > > Both will continue to be esteemed member like other with same privileges but with out ghost of moderator ship on their head. Even I was also not knowing this much importance of the post otherwise would have auctioned it out !!! any bidder ?? > > > > P.S. : Today I really feel has been influenced of the "ghost'' of one ex member of this group > > > > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mahendra Rana > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:39 PM > Subject: [RajputWorld ] Re: Reddy to give up the moderatorship !!! > > > Dear Aloksa, > > I am not dying in any kind of post or respect or whatever. it may > be valuable(to put after your name or to satisfy your ego) for you > but not for me!! and so i am readdy to give up the moderatorship with > immediate effect. the only condition is that ask all that members who > wrote you personally against my moderatorship(or those who dont like > me as mod. here) to express their views on the board and i will be > no more moderator here !!! Belive me i dont need any kind of name > plate to put at my house or office or even wish to wrote as Mahendra > Rana moderator of ........ !!! > > > Now I only wants the genuinness of the members who dont wants me > here as moderator. I request them to tell on the board and i will > myself resigned from the this post. alternatively there is already a > poll ( this poll i Myself approved on the board ) regarding my > moderatorship and so still members can vote there and i will leave > the post !!! (there is till a zero vote !!! alok sa !!! why dont u > first put your valuable vote of no ????) > > I m not a hungry for post or fem or money or wealth !!! just prove > the genuniness of the members who are firing from your shoulders !!! > > Mahendra Rana > --- In [email protected], "mrapsc" <mrapsc@y...> wrote: > > Respected Mahendra Chudasamajee: > > > > I do have respect for you from the day one when I have been > part > > of the group. And I do know that I tend to criticize you a bit for > > somethings regarding managing the group - regarding making the > > membership open / postings unmoderated etc etc. > > > > Let me be brief in concluding the matter which has erupted due > > to the TWO postings over here: > > > > 1) Please don't mind but really I am under NO influence of SPIRITS > > of Mr. V. B. Singh or any other person whatsoever. I very well know > > what I am posting on this common platform and do always read the > > message couple of times myself before posting anything here. And > > also to some extent know the implications of it too. > > > > 2) I wish that Mahendra Rana, himself, gives up the post of the > > MODERATOR because I along with many members won't like seeing him > as > > a Moderator because of his fickle nature and bullying and > belittling > > behaviour. AND THESE OBSERVATIONS are NOT from SINGLE posting or > > anything but are from over a period of time. > > > > I do know that He posts quite interesting matter sometimes and > I > > do like reading that too. But beyond that I don't wish to add > > anything else and write hundreds of lines of NONESENSICAL things. > > > > 3) Regarding Rupabajee's 'EMOTIONAL BLACMAILING' email with the > > title 'BE WARNED ALOKSA', I also can write a furious/belittling > > email but I won't. > > > > This platform is an extended family which goes beyond the > realms > > of the virtual world. And so something's which seem to be personal > > but they really have strong effects on the whole group/community. > > > > I also do like reading the postings of Rupabajee and appreciate > > her interests in OUR Rajput Community and the welfare of HINDUS. > And > > also she is doing a commendable job in the Bahl Case. > > > > I know it's really hard for me/our to put my/our point > regarding > > why she shouldn't be a MODERATOR of this RAJPUTWORLD group. I only > > can say that She is a nice WELL-WISHER of OUR MIGHTY RAJPUT > > COMMUNITY and I/We appreciate her JUST FOR THAT. > > > > 4) MY EARLIER 2 POSTINGS REGARDING 'MODERATORS' WAS MISUNDERSTOOD > > TO QUITE AN EXTENT PROBABLY THE LANGUAGE USED WAS BIT ASCERBIC BUT > > really I don't have any intentions of getting into bloodless brawl > > with anyone over here. I do know that I made quite a few FOEs. > > > > My apologies to all the other prominent members over here but I > > really need to make some points which are OVERLOOKED by many and > the > > consequences out of it doesn't seem to affect them as a whole right > > now. Or may be I am wrong FULLY. > > > > I will like to conclude this matter with these things and hope > > this DISCUSSION/DEBATE is taken off now. > > > > Jai Mata jee! > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > Alok P. S. Chauhan, > > Stony Brook, NY > > [Moderator RAJPUTWORLD] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M. B. Chudasama > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Better community intrest- Be warned Aloksa!! > > > Dear all members, > This is the biggest problem of group. Debate and discussions are for the positive use for sorting out problem or to frame out solid plan but it is unfortunate for our group. In the name of democratic style and majority game some time we do more damage than it should have. I think group has witnessed enough unfortunate and sad development during last six months and before any more regrettable things happen let us decide honestly to work in 'team spirit' manner for the better community interest keeping all self ego or difference aside. We all are one only there is nothing behind us firing like. Well rupaba if busy can take brake and refrain from moderator ship. Me, Alok, Ajay and Mahendra Rana,.... are managing the things. Rupaba has taken assignment of Mrs. Kamlesh Bahl case which is far wider and importance than all this that it not only covering Rajput or Hindu but covering racial discrimination against entire Asian ethnic minority and peoples of Indian origin in west world. All segm ent including British government, entire UK public, all leading media of world are watching step by step development of case as it is going to be land mark case for the British Government and plus of many other countries in today's scenario of combination of many other indirect issues connected with it like naturalization and immigration policy, economic development, Rights of migrants and locals, political set up, and many more core issues going to not only affect British Government but so many other western country like US and Canada where in many occasion such matters pains government time to time. Mrs. Kamlesh Bahl ( and so is Rupaba too ) case is going to be land mark judicial turmoil in coming time. Let us all wish her good and remind you all to join her on line signatory campaign to extend our support. > PLESE click here to sign Petition on-line http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?f4j108 > > I am ending here with only request to you all to end undue postings of objecting and opposing each and every and rather continue in more team spirit manner. > Alok has already started concentrating on other important postings and so I request you all to end some bitter topic discussion in positive atmosphere. > > Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji > Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

Dear Sujansa Jai Mataji I appreciate yours, Pavansa's and Dr. Nareshsinghji's your concerns for our community and our society and belive me we majority of persons are here only for this purpose. Dear Sujansa,we also appreciate your scholarship of idea of helping our needed educated students but i have a little bit difference about this. I thinks helping such students on personal level is not a wise or practical idea. the best way to help them is through some instituanal lever. for e.g. suppose i starts helping 1 or 2 students and after 2-3 year if i will lost my job/business then what will happend with the futures of this students of whose expenses i am bearing !!!! Please give some time to the group in this regards and we all are with you . one should not thinks that here only history is important with regards Mahendra Rana Rajkot --- In [email protected], &quoot;SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT" <shekhawat78@y...> wrote: > Dear Nareshsa, jai mata ji ki. Your message was a welcome change on > the group. It looked like everone on this group is more interested in > basking in the glory of our ancestors. Fortunately there are some > sensible postings like that of yours besides those crapy discussions > about our history and origins. > > You have made some very nice suggestions and I whole heartedly > support the same. It will be interesting to see how many members > reply to your posting. I myself posted a few similar messages but > couldn't generate a lot of response though one of my emails about > history did invited a lot of criticism. > > Naresha > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > > http://vote.yahoo.com

Dear Alok and Mahendra and all Member, For the kind information of all you that I am already too busy in my official assignment of new machine project plus of some other activity. I don't get enough time to play piece maker role with lengthy explanatory mail to pacify each time. This group was started with specific intention and objectives of bringing friendship and closeness among Rajput from all over the world. But instead it plays its role other way bringing hate among one another. I am having good respect and trust for Alok so far but I have to write this very painfully and hatefully what has gone wrong with him that in spite of my appeal and request to observe team spirit and stop spoiling atmosphere he still continued his bombardment this time again for moderator ship of Mahendra. What do you all think just making some body additional moderator his power / privileges / or reputation gets reduced ?. I am been keep on telling on numbers of time that every body over here enjoys equal privileges and nobody is placed under restrictive modes for pre approval moderator /owner or member all having equal privileges in message posting, file uploading, photo uploading, poll creating, database or any other tabulation creating of their own choice, members list with on line status, plus all such futures are enjoyed equally among. Very honestly speaking nothing work or time has to be spent out by any body as moderator. Every thing is automated here. Me, Alok, Mahendra or no body can not boast of our assignment as moderator as like spent our precious time for so many months except recommending or inviting few friends for joining of group. For the information of all those that i am no way interested in number game here showing so many dull and dummy members rather interested in qualitative crowd here. I have big mail id list of Rajputs from around world and if want can increase membership number in many fold but as told i want only people to join on their own interest. I will go up to the extent let Alok scan his own balance sheet for advantages verses damages for his contribution for group. I will say ( though may not be his intention , I am sorry to write this ugly, painful and bitter truth for him ) he unknowingly has damaged more by bringing one of most painful and torturous member and shutting up some gem active members by his unknown mistake. Most tedious part of this group of uploading all messages on Archive geocite ( http://www.geocities.com/rajput_world/ )- with removing common text and advertising part from each individual messages -- are carried out by me. ( my non Indian secretary who does not know even R of Rajput is kept busy many time for this my personal ( !!??) work in office ) . Mahendra Rana though out spoken has taken all the pain in writing so many postings ( I think maximum may be up to 150 or more compare to any body ) with so many of his postings are really worth thinking and instead of appreciating him telling openly in humiliating or insulting manner not accepting his moderator ship. Who gives right to you for some body? I hate to right all this things but today Alok has forced me to open out my mouth. For the information all here that we have not made or bound for any constitution to go in democratic style. Plus we all are aware of draw back democratic style of poll and number game. Alok is very much aware poll conduction and its draw back here. What do you want to divide people on the name of poll who has favored and who has gone against? ( As he being moderator can read out list of participant and votes ) we are not running here big organization nor are any authorized body to exercise any power and does not require all this drama on all occasion specifically when it come some thing like dividing people just for post of no value. poll can be okay for sime issue based intention but not all will serve any purpose that do you support Mahendra or Rupaba or Alok as moderator or not. Considering all this unfortunate development and again to save it from further damage and to create team spirit I am forced today with my decision ( it is sad and painful decision for me, though I my self was totally against for this move ) . I being resident of nondemocratic country ( United Arab Emirates, Dubai ) for last 12 years know and understand very well plus and minus of democratic set up. It has been decided by me (though most painful and hate full for me) to relieve both Mahendra Rana and Alok from this (precious time wasting!!??) work. As for me it will be more unfair or even may be insult full for some body just to remove Mahendra upon appeal from Alok. I am here playing role some thing like storey of that "Monkey and two fighting cat for dividing Roti in two equal half." Both are still my trusted and respective friend and should not feel like insult or humiliating act of mine but simple disciplinary action again for the better interest of group and community. Thanks Mataji and God I am capable and wise enough to run the group with out help of two my dear friends and so need not to post any more postings by any body favoring or critising (though allowed) or sympathizing with one and attacking other on this subject thread. Enough we want to work in team spirit manner. Both will continue to be esteemed member like other with same privileges but with out ghost of moderator ship on their head. Even I was also not knowing this much importance of the post otherwise would have auctioned it out !!! any bidder ?? P.S. : Today I really feel has been influenced of the "ghost'' of one ex member of this group Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: Mahendra Rana To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] Re: Reddy to give up the moderatorship !!! Dear Aloksa, I am not dying in any kind of post or respect or whatever. it may be valuable(to put after your name or to satisfy your ego) for you but not for me!! and so i am readdy to give up the moderatorship with immediate effect. the only condition is that ask all that members who wrote you personally against my moderatorship(or those who dont like me as mod. here) to express their views on the board and i will be no more moderator here !!! Belive me i dont need any kind of name plate to put at my house or office or even wish to wrote as Mahendra Rana moderator of ........ !!! Now I only wants the genuinness of the members who dont wants me here as moderator. I request them to tell on the board and i will myself resigned from the this post. alternatively there is already a poll ( this poll i Myself approved on the board ) regarding my moderatorship and so still members can vote there and i will leave the post !!! (there is till a zero vote !!! alok sa !!! why dont u first put your valuable vote of no ????) I m not a hungry for post or fem or money or wealth !!! just prove the genuniness of the members who are firing from your shoulders !!! Mahendra Rana --- In [email protected], &quoot;mrapsc" <mrapsc@y...> wrote: > Respected Mahendra Chudasamajee: > > I do have respect for you from the day one when I have been part > of the group. And I do know that I tend to criticize you a bit for > somethings regarding managing the group - regarding making the > membership open / postings unmoderated etc etc. > > Let me be brief in concluding the matter which has erupted due > to the TWO postings over here: > > 1) Please don't mind but really I am under NO influence of SPIRITS > of Mr. V. B. Singh or any other person whatsoever. I very well know > what I am posting on this common platform and do always read the > message couple of times myself before posting anything here. And > also to some extent know the implications of it too. > > 2) I wish that Mahendra Rana, himself, gives up the post of the > MODERATOR because I along with many members won't like seeing him as > a Moderator because of his fickle nature and bullying and belittling > behaviour. AND THESE OBSERVATIONS are NOT from SINGLE posting or > anything but are from over a period of time. > > I do know that He posts quite interesting matter sometimes and I > do like reading that too. But beyond that I don't wish to add > anything else and write hundreds of lines of NONESENSICAL things. > > 3) Regarding Rupabajee's 'EMOTIONAL BLACMAILING' email with the > title 'BE WARNED ALOKSA', I also can write a furious/belittling > email but I won't. > > This platform is an extended family which goes beyond the realms > of the virtual world. And so something's which seem to be personal > but they really have strong effects on the whole group/community. > > I also do like reading the postings of Rupabajee and appreciate > her interests in OUR Rajput Community and the welfare of HINDUS. And > also she is doing a commendable job in the Bahl Case. > > I know it's really hard for me/our to put my/our point regarding > why she shouldn't be a MODERATOR of this RAJPUTWORLD group. I only > can say that She is a nice WELL-WISHER of OUR MIGHTY RAJPUT > COMMUNITY and I/We appreciate her JUST FOR THAT. > > 4) MY EARLIER 2 POSTINGS REGARDING 'MODERATORS' WAS MISUNDERSTOOD > TO QUITE AN EXTENT PROBABLY THE LANGUAGE USED WAS BIT ASCERBIC BUT > really I don't have any intentions of getting into bloodless brawl > with anyone over here. I do know that I made quite a few FOEs. > > My apologies to all the other prominent members over here but I > really need to make some points which are OVERLOOKED by many and the > consequences out of it doesn't seem to affect them as a whole right > now. Or may be I am wrong FULLY. > > I will like to conclude this matter with these things and hope > this DISCUSSION/DEBATE is taken off now. > > Jai Mata jee! > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Alok P. S. Chauhan, > Stony Brook, NY > [Moderator RAJPUTWORLD] ----- Original Message ----- From: M. B. Chudasama To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Better community intrest- Be warned Aloksa!! Dear all members, This is the biggest problem of group. Debate and discussions are for the positive use for sorting out problem or to frame out solid plan but it is unfortunate for our group. In the name of democratic style and majority game some time we do more damage than it should have. I think group has witnessed enough unfortunate and sad development during last six months and before any more regrettable things happen let us decide honestly to work in 'team spirit' manner for the better community interest keeping all self ego or difference aside. We all are one only there is nothing behind us firing like. Well rupaba if busy can take brake and refrain from moderator ship. Me, Alok, Ajay and Mahendra Rana,.... are managing the things. Rupaba has taken assignment of Mrs. Kamlesh Bahl case which is far wider and importance than all this that it not only covering Rajput or Hindu but covering racial discrimination against entire Asian ethnic minority and peoples of Indian origin in west world. A ll segm ent including British government, entire UK public, all leading media of world are watching step by step development of case as it is going to be land mark case for the British Government and plus of many other countries in today's scenario of combination of many other indirect issues connected with it like naturalization and immigration policy, economic development, Rights of migrants and locals, political set up, and many more core issues going to not only affect British Government but so many other western country like US and Canada where in many occasion such matters pains government time to time. Mrs. Kamlesh Bahl ( and so is Rupaba too ) case is going to be land mark judicial turmoil in coming time. Let us all wish her good and remind you all to join her on line signatory campaign to extend our support. PLESE click here to sign Petition on-line http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?f4j108 I am ending here with only request to you all to end undue postings of objecting and opposing each and every and rather continue in more team spirit manner. Alok has already started concentrating on other important postings and so I request you all to end some bitter topic discussion in positive atmosphere. Thanks Regards and Jai Mataji Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai

Dear Nareshsa, jai mata ji ki. Your message was a welcome change on the group. It looked like everone on this group is more interested in basking in the glory of our ancestors. Fortunately there are some sensible postings like that of yours besides those crapy discussions about our history and origins. You have made some very nice suggestions and I whole heartedly support the same. It will be interesting to see how many members reply to your posting. I myself posted a few similar messages but couldn't generate a lot of response though one of my emails about history did invited a lot of criticism. Naresha if you do have a concrete plan to implement the ideas you have posted I will be glad to be a part of it. Looking forward to exchange more mails with you.... SUJAN S SHEKHAWAT Graduate student VIRGINIA TECH, USA --- In [email protected], Nareesh Singh <nspundir@y...> wrote: > Dear Rajput Friends: > > I am happy to see this active group of Rajputs and > this make me believe that there are people in our > community who take pride to be Rajput and think for > the empowerment of our community which has lost its > power and pride since long back. > > But at the same time I feel sad about type of debates > going on in this group. Our immediate concern should > be which types of topics do we need to discuss in this > group which are common and concern to all the members > of the Rajput Community. I have some ideas on that as > follows. > > 1. How to improve the education level in general and > education of our women in particualr in Rajput > community? > > 2. How to improve the status of our women so that they > can come out from the four walls of house into the > mainstream of this globalized world. > > 3. How to help our community people to provide more > jobs to them? > > 4. How to help our community people so that they can > become entrepreneurs? > > 5. How to help them in geeting jobs and settling > abraod so that they can earn good money and live a > dignified life. > > And important is these issues should not be addressed > at debate level only. For this it is important to make > a feasible action plan. > > To know more about me, I am writing a paragraph below > my address. > > Thanking you and with regards. > > Yours sincerely, > > Naresh > > This email is sent by: > > Professor (Dr.) Naresh Singh > M. Phil. (Sociology), Ph.D., P.G.D.F.M. > Strategic Management Group > (Entrepreneurship, Micro-Finance & NGO Management > Areas) > ICFAI Business School > IBS Campus, Old Delhi-Jaipur National Highway, > Dundahera > Gurgaon – 122 016 > Haryana, INDIA > Tel: 0091-124-2455485 to 87 Extn. 322 > Fax: 0091-124-2455484 > Tel: 0091-124-5077426 (Residence) > Cell: 0091-9873102790 > Email: nspundir@h... > Website: http://www.ibsindia.org > > Professor (Dr.) Naresh Singh holds M. Phil. & Ph. D. > Degrees in Sociology and Post Graduate Diploma in > Financial Management. He has 15 years of teaching, > research and industry experience. His main areas of > specialization are Entrepreneurship, Micro-Finance and > NGO Management He is the member of several > professional and academic bodies. He has published > number of research papers in refereed national and > international journals besides publishing discussion > papers, case monographs, research monograph and a book > on micro-enterprise development. He has presented many > research papers in national and international seminars > / conferences. He has worked with reputed management / > sectoral institutions like Indian Institute of Health > Management Research Jaipur, Entrepreneurship > Development of India, Ahmedabad and Narsee Monjee > Institute of Management Studies, Mumbai before joining > IBS, Gurgaon. He is a well-known name in NGO / > Development Sector. He has implemented and consulted > in several social development, micro-enterprise and > micro-finance projects among the NGOs in India and > abroad supported by GoI, State Governments, SIDBI, > NABARD, RMK, NMDFC, NORAD, KFW, AusAid, World Bank > etc. A UGC-NET scholar, Dr. Singh received > scholarships from reputed national and international > agencies (Aus-Aid, Central European University – > Budapest, Dutch Secretariat) for his professional and > research assignments. During Ph.D. work he was > conferred on "Professor Radha Kamal Mukherjee Award > for Young Social Scientist" by Indian Social Science > Association for his outstanding research work on rural > poverty. Looking to his services in development > sector by using tools and techniques of management > education, he was conferred on "Best Teacher of > Management of the Year Award 2003-2004" by Bombay > Management Association. He is the youngest ever > Faculty and first sociologist to receive this > prestigious award. For his professional assignments at > abroad he has visited Bangladesh (3), Thailand (2), > Indonesia (2) Sri Lanka, Philippines, Australia, > Hungary, Netherlands and Sweden. > >

Naresh Singh Ji,

Excellent Ideas !!

I am working on a plan to do similar things. I Will
share with the group shortly.

Thanks & Regards
Pavan Rathore

--- Naresh Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Dear Rajput Friends:
>
> I am happy to see this active group of Rajputs and
> this make me believe that there are people in our
> community who take pride to be Rajput and think for
> the empowerment of our community which has lost its
> power and pride since long back.
>
> But at the same time I feel sad about type of
> debates
> going on in this group. Our immediate concern should
> be which types of topics do we need to discuss in
> this
> group which are common and concern to all the
> members
> of the Rajput Community. I have some ideas on that
> as
> follows.
>
> 1. How to improve the education level in general and
> education of our women in particualr in Rajput
> community?
>
> 2. How to improve the status of our women so that
> they
> can come out from the four walls of house into the
> mainstream of this globalized world.
>
> 3. How to help our community people to provide more
> jobs to them?
>
> 4. How to help our community people so that they can
> become entrepreneurs?
>
> 5. How to help them in geeting jobs and settling
> abraod so that they can earn good money and live a
> dignified life.
>
> And important is these issues should not be
> addressed
> at debate level only. For this it is important to
> make
> a feasible action plan.
>
> To know more about me, I am writing a paragraph
> below
> my address.
>
> Thanking you and with regards.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Naresh
>
> This email is sent by:
>
> Professor (Dr.) Naresh Singh
> M. Phil. (Sociology), Ph.D., P.G.D.F.M.
> Strategic Management Group
> (Entrepreneurship, Micro-Finance & NGO Management
> Areas)
> ICFAI Business School
> IBS Campus, Old Delhi-Jaipur National Highway,
> Dundahera
> Gurgaon - 122 016
> Haryana, INDIA
> Tel: 0091-124-2455485 to 87 Extn. 322
> Fax: 0091-124-2455484
> Tel: 0091-124-5077426 (Residence)
> Cell: 0091-9873102790
> Email: [email protected]
> Website: http://www.ibsindia.org
>
> Professor (Dr.) Naresh Singh holds M. Phil. & Ph.
> D.
> Degrees in Sociology and Post Graduate Diploma in
> Financial Management. He has 15 years of teaching,
> research and industry experience. His main areas of
> specialization are Entrepreneurship, Micro-Finance
> and
> NGO Management He is the member of several
> professional and academic bodies. He has published
> number of research papers in refereed national and
> international journals besides publishing discussion
> papers, case monographs, research monograph and a
> book
> on micro-enterprise development. He has presented
> many
> research papers in national and international
> seminars
> / conferences. He has worked with reputed management
> /
> sectoral institutions like Indian Institute of
> Health
> Management Research Jaipur, Entrepreneurship
> Development of India, Ahmedabad and Narsee Monjee
> Institute of Management Studies, Mumbai before
> joining
> IBS, Gurgaon. He is a well-known name in NGO /
> Development Sector. He has implemented and consulted
> in several social development, micro-enterprise and
> micro-finance projects among the NGOs in India and
> abroad supported by GoI, State Governments, SIDBI,
> NABARD, RMK, NMDFC, NORAD, KFW, AusAid, World Bank
> etc. A UGC-NET scholar, Dr. Singh received
> scholarships from reputed national and international
> agencies (Aus-Aid, Central European University -
> Budapest, Dutch Secretariat) for his professional
> and
> research assignments. During Ph.D. work he was
> conferred on "Professor Radha Kamal Mukherjee Award
> for Young Social Scientist" by Indian Social Science
> Association for his outstanding research work on
> rural
> poverty. Looking to his services in development
> sector by using tools and techniques of management
> education, he was conferred on "Best Teacher of
> Management of the Year Award 2003-2004" by Bombay
> Management Association. He is the youngest ever
> Faculty and first sociologist to receive this
> prestigious award. For his professional assignments
> at
> abroad he has visited Bangladesh (3), Thailand (2),
> Indonesia (2) Sri Lanka, Philippines, Australia,
> Hungary, Netherlands and Sweden.
>

Dear Mayur Raj Let me first tell you, my father was never entirely wrong...common i meant the people at same levels doesnt support each other... i had given references in that context and you can justify that too... if you see today also in present scenario.... no two rajputs who have the same position will compromise and join hands to become an even stronger power.. let me tell you............... the jealousy part is very heavy in us.... Any community should not forget his past and the community who forgerts his past never succeeds in future and always slips..... and its position always detoriates... I'm not discouraging anything but just reminding the common behaviour or traits of ours which we need to improve or else there will never be any change to our slipping condition of our community...... Lets join hands and should be expecting performance and should have expectations from our community people... who are the best and the best race in the hole world........... urs pankaj singh chandel