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"M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Sat May 15, 2004 11:20 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Life is so short!!! |
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Dear Mahendra, Yes i agree with you. we should not go too much after some less importance things. that is reason i appreciated your stand and wrote in one of my posting that it is wellcome sign taht some body draw our attention if we out of track. But see this is open forum and nobody is like authority to stop each other in expressing their views. Every body has right to express their views. We as moderator take due care in deleting certain irrelavent or indecent postings. Mankind history says it takes years and years to civilised people. it is not instant one day Process. We react in certain manner because we know certain things from our anceters and history. If we will think only of us then time will come future genration will not know R of Rajput and we will lose our identity. we have to pace with time and also to retain all that plus side of Rajputism. Again repeting here we are not discussing Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput but ideology, values and cherecterstics of community. Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput matter has come in between has got only symbolic value and we have nothing to do personaly with them. What we want to discuss here is Rajput ideology and such things are quoted for reference matter. i hope now we have discussed more than enough for this priti zinta and Muslim Rajput. we have lot other positive things to do and should waste out time and site bytes too much after them. Ajay Kumar Singh P has given us lot of productive idea to act some positive. Regards, Mahendrasinh Chudasama Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahendra Rana" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Life is so short!!! Dear Shri M.B.Chudasama and my other friends I appreciate your views and you writes very nice. but sometimes it happnes that we got misunderstood others.I haven't objected any kind of discussion here. Its true that my both emails were negative but i am a very very positive person and the concept of those both emails was that we should avoid discussion and attention towards points which are of lesser importance for our community or our samaj. You will agree with me that here some nice issues posted i.e. dowery in our commumnity, united rajput and the the role of youth in modern leadership these issues are really needs much attention and much response.unfourtunately the issue of muslim rajput and pritia zinta got more response and more attention thats why i have wrote here. I thinks that ideology,cultures,customs are relative terms and depends upon the time.each society,samaj or group has its own ideology,custom and behaviours which is mostly according to the need of time and the overall situaion prevailling in the whole society(i.e. Other societies too) and so these values never remains same. In this world only the time is the biggest ruller and those person,society groups who can't change them according to time , are always in a lossing position.so every society should change itself according the time and should try to adjust itself as far as possible . ofcourse not blindly. the culture will never remains same!!! can you or anybody here can please say me what was the custom or culture or ideology of our samaj in the 16th century or during 17 or during 10th ? or even during 20th and does all these were always the same ? definately not I am really not sure which kind of ideology or which time's rajputs' glory we wants back ? I thinks that i have a short life and in this short life i have to do lots of things for myself, for my family and also for the society. each day I open this mail box with a great hope that if i could find a new idea,new thinking which can improve Rajput's life stlye or can criticism about ourself so that atleast me can improve myself. but i got disappointed when i founds the other matter more importance!! Please dont' think criticism as a negative mails. criticisam are very important in our life. ok take care and bye to all Mahendra "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Shri Bharat Singh Naruka, I think you got misunderstood about my view and opinion. I did not posted any message opposing your view for Priti Zinta. I am one of Moderator of this group and always welcome such healthy discussion points. Members may have opinion difference does not mean to shut up some body of his opinions or view. In fact in one of my earlier posting I supported both you and Dr. Sumerendra Chauhan view with balancing in our Rajput identity and ideology in such contradictory situation. One who posted message opposing such topics is different than me. He is Mahendrasinh Rana, I appreciate him also for his active parting in discussion. We all have full freedom to express our view and also it is well come sign some body draw our attention if we are going in wrong direction. But our discussion so far on this platform is going in true spirit and direction and has been conveyed to him same thing to him also in my earlier message posted on this group. Regards and Jay Mataji. Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai Here with Please find my earlier mail for the reference. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 3:44 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! Dear Mahendra, Here we are not discussing only Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput only but ideology, values and cherecterstics of community. Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput matter has come in between has got only symbolic value and we have nothing to do personaly with them. What we want to discuss here is Rajput ideology and such things are quoted for reference matter. You must be aware History play an important role in devloping any futre Samaj. If samaj or group don't know their own history or ideology of his own community then it can not be molded or united for things to come. in present age people are scattered all over and it is only this ideology which bounds us togather. It has got importance to do some creative things. As told in your earliar mail we are not only thinking creative but discussing it positively to act some creative. To write negative mail ( this your second mail, i am not offending you, what i want to ephasis is concept of creative activities) is very easy but to create positive activities require lot brain storming. Also for your information many of our moderating team and group members ( Like Dr. Jayendrasinhji Jadeja, Dr. Jaivirsinh Rathod, Miss Arti Gohil, Rajendrasinh Gohil, etc., ) are involved behind creating Matrimonial site of http://www.rajputvivaaha.com/ . Also you can read out recent message by Shri Mahavirsingh Shekhavat and noble activties of Kshtriya Yuvak Sangh (KYS). sincerly, Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahendra" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat Naruka" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! Dear Mahendra Singh Ji, The point of our discussion was not Pretty Zinta or some Muslim Rajput. The point we were trying to make was that we need to cut down on our rigidity while sticking to our rich heritage and customs. I or anyone else have no doubt that Ushaba is persuing a worthwhile and I would be more than glad to help her in anyway. But opening up ourselves is also equally important so I don't have slightest doubt that if one understands the epitome of the discussion one would not find it useless in anyway. Regards, Bharat Singh Naruka 600, Asylum Avenue #705, Hartford,CT - 06105 USA --- Mahendra <[email protected]> wrote: DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra |
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Ajay Singh <[email protected]> Date: Sat May 15, 2004 10:40 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Preity Zinta is a Rajput??? |
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Hello Folks, I guess its time for some action... We all agree here that the response has been more for muslim rajputs and preity zinta... its good to keep the activites warm... Lets step a bit forward towards building a vision of the Rajput society... unless we dont build this we will end up with small issues like this only... I have put some points on which we can make a vision and move forward 1. Anti Dowary initatives 2. Educational support system 3. Political strength (both India and Aborad, We need to have lobby groups for our cause) 4. Role and support of local Rajput Sabha's 5. Business collobaration 6. Networking globally I am sure we can add more to this list and move forward. Thanks and Regards, Ajay Kumar Singh P --- svrajput <[email protected]> wrote: Hello , I know that prity zinta belongs to rajput family. I think she said in star tv. specially program also ( semi garewal show ). I think it's not not very big and presti.... related issuse. we should think about ower community how we can help them. thanks :) --- In [email protected], Sumerendra Chauhan <drchauhanmd@y...> wrote:
Dear Bharat,
Dear Sumerendra,
Dear Bharat,
Hi,
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"svrajput" <[email protected]> Date: Sat May 15, 2004 7:49 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Preity Zinta is a Rajput??? | ||||||||||||
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Hello , I know that prity zinta belongs to rajput family. I think she said in star tv. specially program also ( semi garewal show ). I think it's not not very big and presti.... related issuse. we should think about ower community how we can help them. thanks :) --- In [email protected], Sumerendra Chauhan <drchauhanmd@y...> wrote:
Dear Bharat,
Dear Sumerendra,
Dear Bharat,
Hi,
Jai Deva,
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"Rajnish Singh" <[email protected]> Date: Thu May 13, 2004 10:26 pm Subject: hi rajput bhai. |
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HI Buddy, Thanx for mail .I am doin Post graudate form Uni of NSW (UNSW)Australia.i just joined here i have done my b tech form IT BHU n i 2 from Varanasi. b in touch rest in next mail urs rajnish |
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Mahendra Rana <[email protected]> Date: Thu May 13, 2004 9:41 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Life is so short!!! |
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Dear Shri M.B.Chudasama and my other friends I appreciate your views and you writes very nice. but sometimes it happnes that we got misunderstood others.I haven't objected any kind of discussion here. Its true that my both emails were negative but i am a very very positive person and the concept of those both emails was that we should avoid discussion and attention towards points which are of lesser importance for our community or our samaj. You will agree with me that here some nice issues posted i.e. dowery in our commumnity, united rajput and the the role of youth in modern leadership these issues are really needs much attention and much response.unfourtunately the issue of muslim rajput and pritia zinta got more response and more attention thats why i have wrote here. I thinks that ideology,cultures,customs are relative terms and depends upon the time.each society,samaj or group has its own ideology,custom and behaviours which is mostly according to the need of time and the overall situaion prevailling in the whole society(i.e. Other societies too) and so these values never remains same. In this world only the time is the biggest ruller and those person,society groups who can't change them according to time , are always in a lossing position.so every society should change itself according the time and should try to adjust itself as far as possible . ofcourse not blindly. the culture will never remains same!!! can you or anybody here can please say me what was the custom or culture or ideology of our samaj in the 16th century or during 17 or during 10th ? or even during 20th and does all these were always the same ? definately not I am really not sure which kind of ideology or which time's rajputs' glory we wants back ? I thinks that i have a short life and in this short life i have to do lots of things for myself, for my family and also for the society. each day I open this mail box with a great hope that if i could find a new idea,new thinking which can improve Rajput's life stlye or can criticism about ourself so that atleast me can improve myself. but i got disappointed when i founds the other matter more importance!! Please dont' think criticism as a negative mails. criticisam are very important in our life. ok take care and bye to all Mahendra "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Shri Bharat Singh Naruka, I think you got misunderstood about my view and opinion. I did not posted any message opposing your view for Priti Zinta. I am one of Moderator of this group and always welcome such healthy discussion points. Members may have opinion difference does not mean to shut up some body of his opinions or view. In fact in one of my earlier posting I supported both you and Dr. Sumerendra Chauhan view with balancing in our Rajput identity and ideology in such contradictory situation. One who posted message opposing such topics is different than me. He is Mahendrasinh Rana, I appreciate him also for his active parting in discussion. We all have full freedom to express our view and also it is well come sign some body draw our attention if we are going in wrong direction. But our discussion so far on this platform is going in true spirit and direction and has been conveyed to him same thing to him also in my earlier message posted on this group. Regards and Jay Mataji. Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai Here with Please find my earlier mail for the reference. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 3:44 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! Dear Mahendra, Here we are not discussing only Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput only but ideology, values and cherecterstics of community. Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput matter has come in between has got only symbolic value and we have nothing to do personaly with them. What we want to discuss here is Rajput ideology and such things are quoted for reference matter. You must be aware History play an important role in devloping any futre Samaj. If samaj or group don't know their own history or ideology of his own community then it can not be molded or united for things to come. in present age people are scattered all over and it is only this ideology which bounds us togather. It has got importance to do some creative things. As told in your earliar mail we are not only thinking creative but discussing it positively to act some creative. To write negative mail ( this your second mail, i am not offending you, what i want to ephasis is concept of creative activities) is very easy but to create positive activities require lot brain storming. Also for your information many of our moderating team and group members ( Like Dr. Jayendrasinhji Jadeja, Dr. Jaivirsinh Rathod, Miss Arti Gohil, Rajendrasinh Gohil, etc., ) are involved behind creating Matrimonial site of http://www.rajputvivaaha.com/ . Also you can read out recent message by Shri Mahavirsingh Shekhavat and noble activties of Kshtriya Yuvak Sangh (KYS). sincerly, Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahendra" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat Naruka" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! Dear Mahendra Singh Ji, The point of our discussion was not Pretty Zinta or some Muslim Rajput. The point we were trying to make was that we need to cut down on our rigidity while sticking to our rich heritage and customs. I or anyone else have no doubt that Ushaba is persuing a worthwhile and I would be more than glad to help her in anyway. But opening up ourselves is also equally important so I don't have slightest doubt that if one understands the epitome of the discussion one would not find it useless in anyway. Regards, Bharat Singh Naruka 600, Asylum Avenue #705, Hartford,CT - 06105 USA --- Mahendra <[email protected]> wrote: DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra |
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Mahendra Rana <[email protected]> Date: Thu May 13, 2004 9:41 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Life is so short!!! | ||||||||||
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Dear Shri M.B.Chudasama and my other friends I appreciate your views and you writes very nice. but sometimes it happnes that we got misunderstood others.I haven't objected any kind of discussion here. Its true that my both emails were negative but i am a very very positive person and the concept of those both emails was that we should avoid discussion and attention towards points which are of lesser importance for our community or our samaj. You will agree with me that here some nice issues posted i.e. dowery in our commumnity, united rajput and the the role of youth in modern leadership these issues are really needs much attention and much response.unfourtunately the issue of muslim rajput and pritia zinta got more response and more attention thats why i have wrote here. I thinks that ideology,cultures,customs are relative terms and depends upon the time.each society,samaj or group has its own ideology,custom and behaviours which is mostly according to the need of time and the overall situaion prevailling in the whole society(i.e. Other societies too) and so these values never remains same. In this world only the time is the biggest ruller and those person,society groups who can't change them according to time , are always in a lossing position.so every society should change itself according the time and should try to adjust itself as far as possible . ofcourse not blindly. the culture will never remains same!!! can you or anybody here can please say me what was the custom or culture or ideology of our samaj in the 16th century or during 17 or during 10th ? or even during 20th and does all these were always the same ? definately not I am really not sure which kind of ideology or which time's rajputs' glory we wants back ? I thinks that i have a short life and in this short life i have to do lots of things for myself, for my family and also for the society. each day I open this mail box with a great hope that if i could find a new idea,new thinking which can improve Rajput's life stlye or can criticism about ourself so that atleast me can improve myself. but i got disappointed when i founds the other matter more importance!! Please dont' think criticism as a negative mails. criticisam are very important in our life. ok take care and bye to all Mahendra "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Shri Bharat Singh Naruka, I think you got misunderstood about my view and opinion. I did not posted any message opposing your view for Priti Zinta. I am one of Moderator of this group and always welcome such healthy discussion points. Members may have opinion difference does not mean to shut up some body of his opinions or view. In fact in one of my earlier posting I supported both you and Dr. Sumerendra Chauhan view with balancing in our Rajput identity and ideology in such contradictory situation. One who posted message opposing such topics is different than me. He is Mahendrasinh Rana, I appreciate him also for his active parting in discussion. We all have full freedom to express our view and also it is well come sign some body draw our attention if we are going in wrong direction. But our discussion so far on this platform is going in true spirit and direction and has been conveyed to him same thing to him also in my earlier message posted on this group. Regards and Jay Mataji. Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai Here with Please find my earlier mail for the reference. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 3:44 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! Dear Mahendra, Here we are not discussing only Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput only but ideology, values and cherecterstics of community. Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput matter has come in between has got only symbolic value and we have nothing to do personaly with them. What we want to discuss here is Rajput ideology and such things are quoted for reference matter. You must be aware History play an important role in devloping any futre Samaj. If samaj or group don't know their own history or ideology of his own community then it can not be molded or united for things to come. in present age people are scattered all over and it is only this ideology which bounds us togather. It has got importance to do some creative things. As told in your earliar mail we are not only thinking creative but discussing it positively to act some creative. To write negative mail ( this your second mail, i am not offending you, what i want to ephasis is concept of creative activities) is very easy but to create positive activities require lot brain storming. Also for your information many of our moderating team and group members ( Like Dr. Jayendrasinhji Jadeja, Dr. Jaivirsinh Rathod, Miss Arti Gohil, Rajendrasinh Gohil, etc., ) are involved behind creating Matrimonial site of http://www.rajputvivaaha.com/ . Also you can read out recent message by Shri Mahavirsingh Shekhavat and noble activties of Kshtriya Yuvak Sangh (KYS). sincerly, Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahendra" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat Naruka" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! Dear Mahendra Singh Ji, The point of our discussion was not Pretty Zinta or some Muslim Rajput. The point we were trying to make was that we need to cut down on our rigidity while sticking to our rich heritage and customs. I or anyone else have no doubt that Ushaba is persuing a worthwhile and I would be more than glad to help her in anyway. But opening up ourselves is also equally important so I don't have slightest doubt that if one understands the epitome of the discussion one would not find it useless in anyway. Regards, Bharat Singh Naruka 600, Asylum Avenue #705, Hartford,CT - 06105 USA --- Mahendra <[email protected]> wrote: DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. 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"D.K. Singh" <[email protected]> Date: Thu May 13, 2004 6:31 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] glory of rajputs |
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Very well written. Kudos to Rajinder. Graceful change to modernity is
the only answer for Rajput dilemma. Girls needed to be supported for
higher education and encouraged to take up jobs. Rajput boys should also
be encouraged to go for higher education. This will give us new insight
and a way to contribute for a better society in a dignified way. Jai Mahakaal. >>> [email protected] 5/13/2004 6:04:35 AM >>> jai shri mahadev i agree with some members that the morality consideration in our caste has decreased, but in the changing time we had to change. women have to work. may be it is not true in many parts of india, it is true in some parts where government has applied land reforms, the government has seized land from influential zamindars and now they have equal land as their other caste neighbours.with these changes we could not stick with our ideals. their is quite a refrain among other caste people about rajputs " rassi jal gayi par dum nahi gaya " that is despite losing all property we still are not keeping in pace with present soceity. this is not the case of all rajputs but most of them still do not want the girls to work or mens doing odd jobs. that is the reason that despite a glorious past their are very less rajputs in I.A.S. /I.P.S. post. it is for this reason that many political parties ignored us and treated us as and vote bank. why is it so that we have not produced great acadmecian as other caste especially pandits. why is it so that there is no rajput president or vice president ( mr. b.s.shekhvat is the first one ) in 55 years after independence. i may be wrong about caste status of other prez. it is time that now we try to propagate the message among our rajput brethren so that we donot lag behind other caste groups. it is the only way we can keep and preserve our glorious past in this modern changing era. about zinta clan, as sumerendra has said, yes their are mant clans which we do not know much about. their are many rajput caste which many of us do not know about. zinta, jitsu, ranta, panta,dhumal (remember ex cm of h.p. mr. p.k.dhumal) , bisht, khandoori etc are some of the popular rajput caste of himachal. himachali rajputs similar to rajhasthani rajputs in their entire history did'nt conceded to british or muslim and they were ruled indirectly by them. it is perhaps the reson for himachal having the highest % of hindus in india i.e. 98% about. ok for know. i hope i will get constructive response about resuming the glory of rajputs from my freinds. ok bye. Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> wrote: Jai Deva, Okay, I stand corrected. There are many smaller clans which I do not know of, so it is difficult at times to know every single name. However, I admit that I could be wrong. The Zinta thing was something that I was not absolute about and therefore I gave my opinion a couple of times, but as you will recall Mr. Thakur, I did not argue anymore, I don't see any reason in arguing when I am not sure of the facts. I knew that she was from shimla area, but I had no idea about Zintas, and have never come upon the name in my research, however, there a re alot of smaller clans whose names are not so common. Thank you for you passion for Zinta and the article. Its good to know that Preity Znta is a Rajput. Sincerely Dr. Sumerendra rajinder thakur <[email protected]> wrote: jai shri mahadev there is a lot of discussions going on in the group about preity zinta being a rajput or not. i want to set the records straight. preity zinta is a rajput and she feels as proud of her rajput origin as we all members of this group. she had even declared publicly that she is a rajput and will not be cowed down by the threats from dawood's dons.for reference, visit http://movies.indiainfo.com/newsbytes/preity-mail.html i thougt sumerendra will be knowing about her but i want to tell her that preity zinta belongs to rohru tehsil of shimla district of himachal pradesh. her zinta clan still lives in the mountain valleys of shimla district. i also belong to kotgarh in shimla district. that is why i am so much sure about preity zinta's rajput origin. preity zinta is a kanet rajput, as i had told earlier that they are the rajputs who are the local warrier tribe and get assimilated in the rajputs due to marrying with them. i want to set another thing right, you need not to see her with disgrace because she do not opted for film carrier on her own, she just drifted toward her. her father was in army, died in a tragic accident when she was 13, her mother could not bear the shock, and remained ill for quite some time. so preity has to take care of her brothers. she joined college in shimla. she was selected for add of cadbury ( i dont know exact name of the choclate company) . you know ther are lots of treasere hunt going on in colleges etc. many of us has seen her add also.from that se moved on to films. so ok for now. for further qurerries you can ask me. bye |
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jai shri mahadev i agree with some members that the morality consideration in our caste has decreased, but in the changing time we had to change. women have to work. may be it is not true in many parts of india, it is true in some parts where government has applied land reforms, the government has seized land from influential zamindars and now they have equal land as their other caste neighbours. with these changes we could not stick with our ideals. their is quite a refrain among other caste people about rajputs " rassi jal gayi par dum nahi gaya " that is despite losing all property we still are not keeping in pace with present soceity. this is not the case of all rajputs but most of them still do not want the girls to work or mens doing odd jobs. that is the reason that despite a glorious past their are very less rajputs in I.A.S. /I.P.S. post. it is for this reason that many political parties ignored us and treated us as and vote bank. why is it so that we have not produced great acadmecian as other caste especially pandits. why is it so that there is no rajput president or vice president ( mr. b.s.shekhvat is the first one ) in 55 years after independence. i may be wrong about caste status of other prez. it is time that now we try to propagate the message among our rajput brethren so that we donot lag behind other caste groups. it is the only way we can keep and preserve our glorious past in this modern changing era. about zinta clan, as sumerendra has said, yes their are mant clans which we do not know much about. their are many rajput caste which many of us do not know about. zinta, jitsu, ranta, panta,dhumal (remember ex cm of h.p. mr. p.k.dhumal) , bisht, khandoori etc are some of the popular rajput caste of himachal. himachali rajputs similar to rajhasthani rajputs in their entire history did'nt conceded to british or muslim and they were ruled indirectly by them. it is perhaps the reson for himachal having the highest % of hindus in india i.e. 98% about. ok for know. i hope i will get constructive response about resuming the glory of rajputs from my freinds. ok bye. Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> wrote: Jai Deva, Okay, I stand corrected. There are many smaller clans which I do not know of, so it is difficult at times to know every single name. However, I admit that I could be wrong. The Zinta thing was something that I was not absolute about and therefore I gave my opinion a couple of times, but as you will recall Mr. Thakur, I did not argue anymore, I don't see any reason in arguing when I am not sure of the facts. I knew that she was from shimla area, but I had no idea about Zintas, and have never come upon the name in my research, however, there a re alot of smaller clans whose names are not so common. Thank you for you passion for Zinta and the article. Its good to know that Preity Znta is a Rajput. Sincerely Dr. Sumerendra rajinder thakur <[email protected]> wrote: jai shri mahadev there is a lot of discussions going on in the group about preity zinta being a rajput or not. i want to set the records straight. preity zinta is a rajput and she feels as proud of her rajput origin as we all members of this group. she had even declared publicly that she is a rajput and will not be cowed down by the threats from dawood's dons.for reference, visit http://movies.indiainfo.com/newsbytes/preity-mail.html i thougt sumerendra will be knowing about her but i want to tell her that preity zinta belongs to rohru tehsil of shimla district of himachal pradesh. her zinta clan still lives in the mountain valleys of shimla district. i also belong to kotgarh in shimla district. that is why i am so much sure about preity zinta's rajput origin. preity zinta is a kanet rajput, as i had told earlier that they are the rajputs who are the local warrier tribe and get assimilated in the rajputs due to marrying with them. i want to set another thing right, you need not to see her with disgrace because she do not opted for film carrier on her own, she just drifted toward her. her father was in army, died in a tragic accident when she was 13, her mother could not bear the shock, and remained ill for quite some time. so preity has to take care of her brothers. she joined college in shimla. she was selected for add of cadbury ( i dont know exact name of the choclate company) . you know ther are lots of treasere hunt going on in colleges etc. many of us has seen her add also.from that se moved on to films. so ok for now. for further qurerries you can ask me. bye | ||||||||||
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Hi Ranjita, First of all welcome to Rajput Family. This is Alakh Singh from bombay working in Reliance Energy. I am also a part of this Rajput Family but but not getting time to share my thing's. i wish ti become a active member. Any way all the best for ur future. bye bey Thanks & Regrds, Alakh Singh siya siya <[email protected]> wrote: hi all, this is ranjita rathore from rajasthan(udaipur),i hav completed my MCA frm on of the good insti of rajasthan........planning for phd..........well this is a v good plateform tht all rajputs boys and girls can share their ideas........don't make communication gap............be friendly........and share ur ideas....reg.career,culture etc. RANJITA RATHORE randhir <[email protected]> wrote: hi buddy this is Randhir Singh a rajput guy from varanasi currently working in delhi in software company. wish u all luck for ur future. randhir singh |
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hi dear its good to here from u well me dharmendra singh i have completed M pharm. i m tooo interested in joinging Ph. D hi all, this is ranjita rathore from rajasthan(udaipur),i hav completed my MCA frm on of the good insti of rajasthan........planning for phd..........well this is a v good plateform tht all rajputs boys and girls can share their ideas........don't make communication gap............be friendly........and share ur ideas....reg.career,culture etc. RANJITA RATHORE randhir <[email protected]> wrote: hi buddy this is Randhir Singh a rajput guy from varanasi currently working in delhi in software company. wish u all luck for ur future. randhir singh |
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From:
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Dear Shri M.B.Chudasama and other members I appreciate all of you and have read your views regarding my messege.unfourtunately I have been a little bit busy so i will reply here soon stating why i had written here to avoid discussion about priti zinta and muslim rajput . meanwhile take care wish you all the best of luck Mahendra "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Shri Bharat Singh Naruka, I think you got misunderstood about my view and opinion. I did not posted any message opposing your view for Priti Zinta. I am one of Moderator of this group and always welcome such healthy discussion points. Members may have opinion difference does not mean to shut up some body of his opinions or view. In fact in one of my earlier posting I supported both you and Dr. Sumerendra Chauhan view with balancing in our Rajput identity and ideology in such contradictory situation. One who posted message opposing such topics is different than me. He is Mahendrasinh Rana, I appreciate him also for his active parting in discussion. We all have full freedom to express our view and also it is well come sign some body draw our attention if we are going in wrong direction. But our discussion so far on this platform is going in true spirit and direction and has been conveyed to him same thing to him also in my earlier message posted on this group. Regards and Jay Mataji. Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai Here with Please find my earlier mail for the reference.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat Naruka" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!!
Dear
Mahendra Singh Ji, --- Mahendra <[email protected]> wrote:
DEAR
ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS,
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Hello Folks, Some of my thoughts. For one yeah the film industry does not really have the best of images and expectations, but then fact of the matter is u only find a Lotus in a swamp, u don’t find it growing in a pool of clear water. From what we just hear from Rajinder, i give her full credit as a Rajput to be able to stand up and support her Family. We as a society should be able to learn from these situations, how many other Rajput kids do we have to put through the grind in case of such a mishap.. why don’t we use the associations to support such families, i am sure we can do that and then we can help in up holding the value and moral system. Also we need to appreciate that fact that she was the only persons (including men) in Bollywood who stood out against the underworld.. that’s a true Rajput trait. and i think we should give her the benefit of doubt that she is there with an ability and talent with an orientation towards art and not as a vulgar show girl.. sure she would have had the option to be a Puja bedi or a Puja Bhatt.. it’s easy money .. that Rajput upbringing.. which we need to be respected. We have in the past also had a history of supporting art and artisans, lets continue that tradition by supporting our own. I don’t expect every one to subscribe to my view points but let’s give some credit to her achievements. And I am open to criticisms as well Btw the last few postings already has changed the whole scenario and we sure are giving her the Due's.. Thanks and Regards Ajay Kumar Singh P --- rajinder thakur <[email protected]> jai shri mahadev there is a lot of discussions going on in the group about preity zinta being a rajput or not. i want to set the records straight. preity zinta is a rajput and she feels as proud of her rajput origin as we all members of this group. she had even declared publicly that she is a rajput and will not be cowed down by the threats from dawood's dons.for reference, visit http://movies.indiainfo.com/newsbytes/preity-mail.html i thougt sumerendra will be knowing about her but i want to tell her that preity zinta belongs to rohru tehsil of shimla district of himachal pradesh. her zinta clan still lives in the mountain valleys of shimla district. i also belong to kotgarh in shimla district. that is why i am so much sure about preity zinta's rajput origin. preity zinta is a kanet rajput, as i had told earlier that they are the rajputs who are the local warrier tribe and get assimilated in the rajputs due to marrying with them. i want to set another thing right, you need not to see her with disgrace because she do not opted for film carrier on her own, she just drifted toward her. her father was in army, died in a tragic accident when she was 13, her mother could not bear the shock, and remained ill for quite some time. so preity has to take care of her brothers. she joined college in shimla. she was selected for add of cadbury ( i dont know exact name of the choclate company) . you know ther are lots of treasere hunt going on in colleges etc. many of us has seen her add also.from that se moved on to films. so ok for now. for further qurerries you can ask me. bye |
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randhir <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 11:27 am Subject: a rajput friend from Delhi... |
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Hi Ranjita this is Randhir Singh(MCA,currently working
in delhi itself) from Delhi (india) a rajput guy will
feel/happy good if you accept my friendship. jai matadi randhir singh 09891638852 |
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From:
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Jai Deva, Okay, I stand corrected. There are many smaller clans which I do not know of, so it is difficult at times to know every single name. However, I admit that I could be wrong. The Zinta thing was something that I was not absolute about and therefore I gave my opinion a couple of times, but as you will recall Mr. Thakur, I did not argue anymore, I don't see any reason in arguing when I am not sure of the facts. I knew that she was from shimla area, but I had no idea about Zintas, and have never come upon the name in my research, however, there a re alot of smaller clans whose names are not so common. Thank you for you passion for Zinta and the article. Its good to know that Preity Znta is a Rajput. Sincerely Dr. Sumerendra rajinder thakur <[email protected]> wrote: jai shri mahadev there is a lot of discussions going on in the group about preity zinta being a rajput or not. i want to set the records straight. preity zinta is a rajput and she feels as proud of her rajput origin as we all members of this group. she had even declared publicly that she is a rajput and will not be cowed down by the threats from dawood's dons.for reference, visit http://movies.indiainfo.com/newsbytes/preity-mail.html i thougt sumerendra will be knowing about her but i want to tell her that preity zinta belongs to rohru tehsil of shimla district of himachal pradesh. her zinta clan still lives in the mountain valleys of shimla district. i also belong to kotgarh in shimla district. that is why i am so much sure about preity zinta's rajput origin. preity zinta is a kanet rajput, as i had told earlier that they are the rajputs who are the local warrier tribe and get assimilated in the rajputs due to marrying with them. i want to set another thing right, you need not to see her with disgrace because she do not opted for film carrier on her own, she just drifted toward her. her father was in army, died in a tragic accident when she was 13, her mother could not bear the shock, and remained ill for quite some time. so preity has to take care of her brothers. she joined college in shimla. she was selected for add of cadbury ( i dont know exact name of the choclate company) . you know ther are lots of treasere hunt going on in colleges etc. many of us has seen her add also.from that se moved on to films. so ok for now. for further qurerries you can ask me. bye | ||||||||||||||||||
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Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 11:38 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] picture of UMAID BHAVAN PALACE of jodhpur |
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Great!!! The palace still looks as splendid as it used
to until 4 yrs back when I was in engineering college
there. Perhapes the picture is taken from Mehran Garh or Jaswant Thada. Regards, Bharat Singh Naruka --- pravin singh bhati <[email protected]> wrote: HI guys see the attached picture of jodhpur's UMAID BHAVAN PALACE, prince banna pravinsingh bhati, Jodhpur |
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From:
Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 11:32 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! | |
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Dear Chudasma Saheb, It seems there has been quite a bit of misunderstanding going on in here. I wasn't aware that you name is also Mahendra Singh. I remember you supporting the discussion wherer you mentioned about your Jain friend. When I addressed Mahendra Singh it was intended for Rana Saheb only. Regards, Bharat --- "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Shri Bharat Singh Naruka, I think you got misunderstood about my view and opinion. I did not posted any message opposing your view for Priti Zinta. I am one of Moderator of this group and always welcome such healthy discussion points. Members may have opinion difference does not mean to shut up some body of his opinions or view. In fact in one of my earlier posting I supported both you and Dr. Sumerendra Chauhan view with balancing in our Rajput identity and ideology in such contradictory situation. One who posted message opposing such topics is different than me. He is Mahendrasinh Rana, I appreciate him also for his active parting in discussion. We all have full freedom to express our view and also it is well come sign some body draw our attention if we are going in wrong direction. But our discussion so far on this platform is going in true spirit and direction and has been conveyed to him same thing to him also in my earlier message posted on this group. Regards and Jay Mataji. Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai Here with Please find my earlier mail for the reference.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bharat Naruka" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!!
Dear
Mahendra Singh Ji, --- Mahendra <[email protected]> wrote:
DEAR
ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS,
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jai shri mahadev there is a lot of discussions going on in the group about preity zinta being a rajput or not. i want to set the records straight. preity zinta is a rajput and she feels as proud of her rajput origin as we all members of this group. she had even declared publicly that she is a rajput and will not be cowed down by the threats from dawood's dons.for reference, visit http://movies.indiainfo.com/newsbytes/preity-mail.html i thougt sumerendra will be knowing about her but i want to tell her that preity zinta belongs to rohru tehsil of shimla district of himachal pradesh. her zinta clan still lives in the mountain valleys of shimla district. i also belong to kotgarh in shimla district. that is why i am so much sure about preity zinta's rajput origin. preity zinta is a kanet rajput, as i had told earlier that they are the rajputs who are the local warrier tribe and get assimilated in the rajputs due to marrying with them. i want to set another thing right, you need not to see her with disgrace because she do not opted for film carrier on her own, she just drifted toward her. her father was in army, died in a tragic accident when she was 13, her mother could not bear the shock, and remained ill for quite some time. so preity has to take care of her brothers. she joined college in shimla. she was selected for add of cadbury ( i dont know exact name of the choclate company) . you know ther are lots of treasere hunt going on in colleges etc. many of us has seen her add also.from that se moved on to films. so ok for now. for further qurerries you can ask me. bye | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I think you got misunderstood about my view and opinion. I did not posted any message opposing your view for Priti Zinta. I am one of Moderator of this group and always welcome such healthy discussion points. Members may have opinion difference does not mean to shut up some body of his opinions or view. In fact in one of my earlier posting I supported both you and Dr. Sumerendra Chauhan view with balancing in our Rajput identity and ideology in such contradictory situation. One who posted message opposing such topics is different than me. He is Mahendrasinh Rana, I appreciate him also for his active parting in discussion. We all have full freedom to express our view and also it is well come sign some body draw our attention if we are going in wrong direction. But our discussion so far on this platform is going in true spirit and direction and has been conveyed to him same thing to him also in my earlier message posted on this group.
Regards and Jay Mataji.
Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai
Here with Please find my earlier mail for the reference.
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----- Original Message -----
From:
"M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>"
<[email protected]>
Dear
Mahendra,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bharat Naruka" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!!
Dear
Mahendra Singh Ji,
The point of
our discussion was not Pretty Zinta or some Muslim
Rajput. The point we were trying to make was that
we need to cut down on our rigidity while sticking to our rich heritage and
customs.
I or anyone
else have no doubt that Ushaba is
persuing a worthwhile and I would be more than
glad to help her in anyway. But opening up ourselves
is also equally important so I don't have slightest doubt that if one
understands the epitome of the discussion one would not find it useless in
anyway.
Regards,
Bharat
Singh Naruka
600,
Asylum Avenue
#705,
Hartford,CT
- 06105
USA
--- Mahendra <[email protected]> wrote:
DEAR
ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS,
I thinks
sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our
discussion goes to a different ways !!!
why is that ? first it
was occured about muslim
rajput and now we are discussing about
priti zinta ?
well i thinks
muslims are happy with thier
own life and priti zinta
is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we
may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !!
there is lots of things for
discussion.we should more care about our present and future.
only few person here are
workign in a right direction. for e.g.
Ushaba Jadeja and the
team of this world group and those who creates the
matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find
such instituion organisain
and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more
important for us rather then priti
zina or a muslim
rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such
kind of wortheness discussion
wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our
society.
Regards
Mahendra
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pravin singh bhati <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 8:43 am Subject: picture of UMAID BHAVAN PALACE of jodhpur |
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From:
Rupa Hirani <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 7:30 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Re: I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! |
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Three cheers to Alok Pratap Singhji for your last paragraph..i couldn't agree more that we Rajput's can be very good at preaching but, when it comes to practicing what we preach......well....we all know what we do... don't we?!!
I am equally interested to know the views of my Rajput brothers, sisters and elders on the topics of Rajput Love Marriages and Divorces?! As we all know that this is increasing day by day.
Jay Mataji to all...
Rupaba Jadeja
Dear Rana Mahendra and Ketan Rathod jee,
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From:
Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 6:56 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! |
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Dear Mahendra Singh Ji, The point of our discussion was not Pretty Zinta or some Muslim Rajput. The point we were trying to make was that we need to cut down on our rigidity while sticking to our rich heritage and customs. I or anyone else have no doubt that Ushaba is persuing a worthwhile and I would be more than glad to help her in anyway. But opening up ourselves is also equally important so I don't have slightest doubt that if one understands the epitome of the discussion one would not find it useless in anyway. Regards, Bharat Singh Naruka 600, Asylum Avenue #705, Hartford,CT - 06105 USA --- Mahendra <[email protected]> wrote: DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra |
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From:
Bhagwan Singh <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 6:30 am Subject: Maharanaprap jayanti on 22nd May |
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Dear all
Jai Mata Jee Ki
We celebrates Maharana Pratap's Jayanti on Jayeshtha Sudi Tritiya
This year the day falls on 22nd of May as per Christian Calender. Like all other past years let us celebrate the Day with Pride.
I am posted in a very remote area near China Boarder in Arunachal Pradesh & celebrate the day right here (although there is no Rajput here with me) but always in contact with the world thru u all.
yours
B S Shekhawat
dharamendra raghuvanshi <[email protected]> wrote:
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Dear Rana Mahendra and Ketan Rathod jee, These postings happen once in a while. And Truth has to come out. Furthermore we are having discussions and postings on various other topics too. It's not necessary that you like all the postings. It's YOUR PERSONAL decision to go through them. Everyone is free to post his/her views on any topic pertaining to Rajputs on this group. (I don't like cricket on my personal basis that doesn't mean I start bashing those who appreciate it a lot.) You too are welcome to come out with a nice suggestion or do something about/for the Rajput community. There was nice initiation by one community member on the question of DOWRY. There were only few suggestions about how bad it is etc etc. No one in the Rajput community wants to be actively involved in eradicating it except they only make statements and comments. When the question comes of marrying their son/brother/themselves they are too eager to accept the easy money and that's also responsible for the slow attrition in our Rajput Community as well as other social problems. My 2 cents (or paise) worth. Regards, Alok Pratap Singh Chauhan New York --- In [email protected], "Mahendra" <rana_mahendra@y...> DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra
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Dear Mahendra, Here we are not discussing only Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput only but ideology, values and cherecterstics of community. Priti Zinta or Muslim Rajput matter has come in between has got only symbolic value and we have nothing to do personaly with them. What we want to discuss here is Rajput ideology and such things are quoted for reference matter. You must be aware History play an important role in devloping any futre Samaj. If samaj or group don't know their own history or ideology of his own community then it can not be molded or united for things to come. in present age people are scattered all over and it is only this ideology which bounds us togather. It has got importance to do some creative things. As told in your earliar mail we are not only thinking creative but discussing it positively to act some creative. To write negative mail ( this your second mail, i am not offending you, what i want to ephasis is concept of creative activities) is very easy but to create positive activities require lot brain storming. Also for your information many of our moderating team and group members ( Like Dr. Jayendrasinhji Jadeja, Dr. Jaivirsinh Rathod, Miss Arti Gohil, Rajendrasinh Gohil, etc., ) are involved behind creating Matrimonial site of http://www.rajputvivaaha.com/ . Also you can read out recent message by Shri Mahavirsingh Shekhavat and noble activties of Kshtriya Yuvak Sangh (KYS). sincerly, Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahendra" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: [RajputWorld ] I WILL BE VERY HAPPY AS A MEMBER OF RAJPUT WORLD!!! DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra |
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hi all,
this is ranjita rathore from rajasthan(udaipur),i hav completed my MCA frm on of the good insti of rajasthan........planning for phd..........well this is a v good plateform tht all rajputs boys and girls can share their ideas........don't make communication gap............be friendly........and share ur ideas....reg.career,culture etc.
RANJITA RATHORE
randhir <[email protected]> wrote:
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"M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 2:36 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Special camps for rajput youths- boys & girls |
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Dear Shri Mahavirshinghji Shekhavat,
I know noble activties of Kshtriya Yuvak Sangh (KYS) and for the same reason you were included on members list of this group. In fact i was to write you mail (i am one of moderator of this Yahoo Group) about why you are silent so far in posting any message related to KYS activities to this group.
Regards and Jay Mataji.
Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mahavirsingh Shekhawat" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Special camps for rajput youths- boys & girls
Jai mataji to all Rajput brothers & sisters, I may introduce myself first. I am a govt. officer in Govt. of Gujarat and working as Section Officer( Household) with Governor of Gujarat.I am also working for Rajput Samaj through Kshtriya Yuvak Sangh (KYS). KYS is a disciplined rajput organisation working in Rajsthan, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Uttar pradesh,, Madhya Pradesh & Haryana etc..It teaches the lesson of discipline, bravery, patriotism, honesty, etc. and teaches to live atrue rajput life. For above purpose different types of camps are organised in different area and once in a year a major camp of about 12 days is organised at any one place for all area together. such a camp is organised this year in Jaipur, Rajasthan for boys and girls separately but in near by complexes.the dates and place are as follows. Date : From 17-5-2004 to 30-5-2004. Place: Bhavani niketan High School for boys and Bhavani niketan girls school for girls. For above camps there is no fees. Boarding and lodging facility are free but according to rules of KYS.Any Elder persons can also take part in camps, but boys and girls of school & college should have attended atleast two camps of KYS earlier. For more details please contact me. Yours rajput Bandhu, Mahavirsingh Shekhawat |
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DEAR ALL MY RAJPUT FRIENDS, I thinks sometimes somebody posts here a messege and our discussion goes to a different ways !!! why is that ? first it was occured about muslim rajput and now we are discussing about priti zinta ? well i thinks muslims are happy with thier own life and priti zinta is too happy with her own and it will not affect her health or wealth but we may miss our goals if we will talk about such small things !! there is lots of things for discussion.we should more care about our present and future. only few person here are workign in a right direction. for e.g. Ushaba Jadeja and the team of this world group and those who creates the matrimoney site for rajputs. we should find such instituion organisain and persons and to help them or to know their views which may be more important for us rather then priti zina or a muslim rajput I hope that in future we will ignore such kind of wortheness discussion wihtount notice and only have to care for our goals and interest of our society. Regards Mahendra | ||||||||||||
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"M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 12, 2004 1:52 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Preity Zinta is a Rajput??? |
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Dear
All, I
agree fully with all Dr. Sumerendra Chauhan ,
Mr. Bharat and Mr. D.K. Singh. We Rajput
in present age cannot be too reserve or rigid in certain field at the same time
we must retain our identity and ideology to be called Rajput
with certain values of our ancestors. It is up to the people to decide what
carrier or means of lively hood to choose and the same time to retain their
community or Jati values. But things must be balance
out between contradictory situation. One of my Jain
friend who is veterinary scientist working in poultry company here in Dubai
where thousands of chicken slaughtering is taking place in front him. Still he
is 100% Jain and pure vegetarian. Regards and Jay Mataji. Mahendrasinh Chudasama,
----- Original Message ----- From:
"D.K. Singh" <[email protected]> To: < Sent:
Subject:
Re: [RajputWorld ] Preity Zinta
is a Rajput??? Dear
all, I was
reading mails between Dear Bharat and Sumerendra with utmost interest. I thought to keep myself aloof from this
interesting discussion but obviously I couldn't. In my opinion both are right
with divergent point of views. We Rajputs have
suffered since ages primarily due to our stubborn beliefs, rigid family and social
values and very high standard of morality. But these are the same values that makes a Rajput a Rajput. So the dilemma is what to do. To stick to those
high social and family morals, superb values and sense of pride in Kshatriya dharma will be fantastic
achievement any body will be proud off. But this will require tremendous mental
and spiritual strength. Let us face it. Most of us will not be able to sustain
the efforts required to achieve such a high moral. History is witness that some
of us will fail. In
past a Rajput was outcasted
if he failed without giving him another chance. This had inflicted heartburn
and inferiority complex in some of our brothers leading to a slide in family
well-being, social prestige and financial status. People became praja from raja. Other social groups in Another
scenario could be that people are praised for achieving high morals and ideals
of a perfect family and social values but none will be condemn for failing to
achieve that high standards. Because Rajput
high standards are tough to maintain in every sense. In my opinion,
people should be encouraged for their efforts in all the field of life. Be it
cinema or science. Rajputs have been glorious rulers
of major part of Jai Bhole, Dines Bharat Naruka
<[email protected]> wrote: Dear Sumerendra, Please
don't take it personally on yourself. It was just a discussion. It seems I was
not able to make my point clear. I shall put forth my point again. I
never said that we should compromise with our morals and ethics... no... we shouldn't. Infact I also said
that I agree with you as the industry is a currept As
you said that Priet Zinta cann't be Rajput since Rajput parents would never allow their daughters to join
this field. To this I wanted to add that if some Rajput
decides to go off way, we should not deny his/her being a part of us but we
should be bold enough to accept that he is one among us, though may not be like
us, because s/he may not be braught up the way we
were, becaues the values s/he was given, were We cann't expect all those who are born in a specific
community to be alike.. in in our case.. great.. since our community is great. But we had Jaichands
if we had If we
try to analyse why people tend to chose different
ways.. not compatible with
our values, we will find ourselves responsible. Our rigidity accounts for it. Regards, Bharat --- Sumerendra
Chauhan <
Dear Bharat, I
agree that we should be open. However, comprimising
one's morals and ethics is not being open. If we
begin to compromise this then there is no difference between us and them. Then
there is no reason to praise Rajputs. There
is a huge difference between loosing one's morals and being open minded. Reagrds Dr. Chauhan, M.D. Bharat Naruka
<[email protected]>
wrote: The
problem is we still think in the old ways. By this I don't mean that we should
promote out ladies joining film industry. I know it is currept
and I would never defend it. But the point I am trying to make here is that we
must be open to accept what is truth. If she is a Rajput
and dancing with different people, we cann't turn our
back to it and say that we don't know who she is. Their
is a possibility that she is not rajput
at all. But let us not jump to this conclusion because she is into showbiz. Chandrachud Singh sure is Rajput and its also not fair for
males to dance with different girls. But we still digest this. Now what we call
this? I
know by this I might have made lot of people angry. But I strongly feel that we
need to open up our thinking and free our mind. Bharat --- Sumerendra
Chauhan < Jai Deva, I
think we should be a little more critical about our claims before we start
tagging film actors as Rajputs. Preity
Zinta to my knowledge is not a Rajput.
She seems to be Punjabi, or even West Punjabi, but Rajput?
Being Rajput is not a joke, and I don't think Rajput parents would like their daughters dancing infront of everyone and being in the arms of different men
on the screen. It doesn't fit into how Rajputs think.
As far as I know, most families would not want their daughters in the film
industry, its very corrupt and not diginified at all.
So I reall don't think Priety
Zinta is a Rajput. Sure I
like her as an actress, and I think she's cute, but she doesn't seem to be a Rajput, and Zinta, is not a Rajput name, it sounds
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Hello to all of you This is Ketan Rathod from Rajkot.... aap sab log ko koi kam nahi hai jo naah dho kar pritty zinta ke piche padgaye ho.... pritty zinta koi bhi ho humlog ko us se kya lena dena he Rajput ho ya Punjabi ho aur agar Rajput ho to bhi aap sablog uska kya karsakte ho...... so forget this all senceless talking and do something needful.... contect me on this id or my mo. 91-9825374175 who have free sms service pls. send me nice sms and joke Thank You Ketan R. --- Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Bharat,
Dear Sumerendra,
Dear Bharat,
Hi,
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I seek a suitable alliance for my Nephew Deepak Bhati(Asstt Commdt, CRPF). This is a right plateform for Rajputs for catering and enhancing the interactions for all kind of help. The profile of Deepak is on www.rajputvivaaha.com as DEEPAK. Some one interested may also contact me at 09891476418 and 0129-2227776, House No. 149, Sector-11D, Faridabad, Haryana. --- Mahavirsingh Shekhawat <[email protected]> Jai mataji to all Rajput brothers & sisters, I may introduce myself first. I am a govt. officer in Govt. of Gujarat and working as Section Officer( Household) with Governor of Gujarat.I am also working for Rajput Samaj through Kshtriya Yuvak Sangh (KYS). KYS is a disciplined rajput organisation working in Rajsthan, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Uttar pradesh,, Madhya Pradesh & Haryana etc..It teaches the lesson of discipline, bravery, patriotism, honesty, etc. and teaches to live atrue rajput life. For above purpose different types of camps are organised in different area and once in a year a major camp of about 12 days is organised at any one place for all area together. such a camp is organised this year in Jaipur, Rajasthan for boys and girls separately but in near by complexes.the dates and place are as follows. Date : From 17-5-2004 to 30-5-2004. Place: Bhavani niketan High School for boys and Bhavani niketan girls school for girls. For above camps there is no fees. Boarding and lodging facility are free but according to rules of KYS.Any Elder persons can also take part in camps, but boys and girls of school & college should have attended atleast two camps of KYS earlier. For more details please contact me. Yours rajput Bandhu, Mahavirsingh Shekhawat |
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Jai mataji to all Rajput brothers & sisters, I may introduce myself first. I am a govt. officer in Govt. of Gujarat and working as Section Officer( Household) with Governor of Gujarat.I am also working for Rajput Samaj through Kshtriya Yuvak Sangh (KYS). KYS is a disciplined rajput organisation working in Rajsthan, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Uttar pradesh,, Madhya Pradesh & Haryana etc..It teaches the lesson of discipline, bravery, patriotism, honesty, etc. and teaches to live atrue rajput life. For above purpose different types of camps are organised in different area and once in a year a major camp of about 12 days is organised at any one place for all area together. such a camp is organised this year in Jaipur, Rajasthan for boys and girls separately but in near by complexes.the dates and place are as follows. Date : From 17-5-2004 to 30-5-2004. Place: Bhavani niketan High School for boys and Bhavani niketan girls school for girls. For above camps there is no fees. Boarding and lodging facility are free but according to rules of KYS.Any Elder persons can also take part in camps, but boys and girls of school & college should have attended atleast two camps of KYS earlier. For more details please contact me. Yours rajput Bandhu, Mahavirsingh Shekhawat | ||||||||||||
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Dear D.K. Singh, I studied a lot about Rajput history, there are still many names that creep up that I don't know anything about but if there is something I am absolutely sure of I will definitely offer the information to aid in the discussion. Glad to be of help. I gave up my Masters/Ph.D. position in Rajput Studies/Indian History to pursue Medicine. If you have any questions about Punjab, Himachal or Nepal, feel free to ask. Of course all of us, thanks to our Purohits, trace our ancestry to Rajasthan, except there Rajput branches who are descended from Kashmir and Ghandar as well. Regards Dr. Sumerendra "D.K. Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: Vow ! That was very enlightening. I was so impressed and was thinking (while reading your mail) maan this guy knows a lot about Katoch's till I read the last line. Now I think you aught to know all these as you are one of the illustrious Katoch descendant. Thanks a lot Dr. Chauhan. I was interested to know about Katoch's because one of college mate in Bareilly, UP was a Katoch from HP. He used to tell us that he is also a rajput. Thanks a lot once again. Dinesh K. Singh Naruka >>> [email protected] 5/11/2004 12:14:21 PM >>> Dear all Jai deva! This in reference to D.K. Singh's question "What Are Katoch?" Katoch, Rajputs descended from Kashmir, Pehalgam area. Ruled the Kingdom of Kangra, Kangra is the central point for all Katoch. Maharaja Sansar Chand of Kangra was the father-in-law of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Emperor of Punjab. The Empress of Punjab was thus called Maharani Katoch. Maharaja Sansar Chand's Younger Brother was Wazeer Ishwari Singh Katoch. Ishwari's daughter was married to Maharaja Devinder Singh of Nabha, so she was called Maharani Nabha. Ishwari's Son was Balak Singh Katoch, Balak Singh's son was Colonel Shiv Raj Singh Katoch. Colonel Shiv Raj Singh Katoch was married to Princess Durga Kumari Rana of the Nepal Rana Dynasty of Maharana Jung Bahadur (descendants of Maharana Pratap). Col Shiv Raj Singh Katoch and Princess Durga Kumari Rana had a daughter, Princess Tribhuvan Kumari Katoch, who is my mother. Sincerely Dr. Kunwar Sumerendra Vir Singh Chauhan, M.D. "D.K. Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: Nice to know about all this. What are Katochs ? Thanks. Research Assistant Professor Department of Microbiology, Immunology and Molecular genetics University of Kansas Medical Center >>> [email protected] 5/11/2004 6:18:22 AM >>> hi, to all of you. i am rajinder singh thakur, a engineering student of punjab engineering college, chandigarh. i am a himachali rajputs, i think most of rajputs in this yahoogroups are from rajasthan and other lower parts of india. i want to tell the members of rajputworld about himachalis rajputs. we himachali rajputs, unlike the rajputs of rajasthan, we are not much famous, but himachal pradesh is the only state in india, which has majority of rajput caste people.rajputs consists of about 60 to 70% of the total population of himachal . this percentage range with about 80% to 85% rajputs in shimla, kullu, mandi and others district of upper himachal to 25 to 50 % in kangra, and other lower himachal belts. rajputs are divided among two subcaste. 80% of rajputs are kanet rajputs, who are decsndents of khasas, the original aryan inhabitants of himachal. the remaining 20 % rajputs are ( also knowns as upper caste rajputs or miyen rajputs or thakurs) are those rajputs which migrated to himachal during 1000 AD from rajasthan, and other parts of north india, after attact of muslim invaders led my ghori.even my ancestors were from somwhere around mewar area.large concentration of rajputs in himachal, uttranchal and jammu is reason for very less concentration of rajputs in punjab, haryana and western UP. infact rajputs are the largest caste groupi in jammu region.but a distance had remained between kanets and thakurs. the powers in himachal has remained with rajputs, and in the 55 years , rajputs had ruled himachal for 52 years. the present CM and leader of opposition both are rajputs. so you see, we himachalis rajputs are lesser known but we control lot of power in himachal.you know preity zinta, the bollywood heroine, is a rajput. so ok for now bye and have a nice day. |
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Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 10:18 pm Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Preity Zinta is a Rajput??? |
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Dear Bharat, No offence was taken, this forum is created to allow us Rajputs to discuss such matters so that we may bring our community together. Discussion is healthy, so don't worry, I was not offended. With Regards Dr. Sumerendra Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Sumerendra,
Dear Bharat,
Hi,
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From:
randhir <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 6:56 pm Subject: hi rajput bhai. |
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hi buddy this is Randhir Singh a rajput guy from
varanasi currently working in delhi in software
company. wish u all luck for ur future. randhir singh |
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Dear all,
I was reading mails between Dear Bharat and Sumerendra with utmost interest. I
thought to keep myself aloof from this interesting discussion but obviously I
couldn't. In my opinion both are right with divergent point of views. We Rajputs
have suffered since ages primarily due to our stubborn beliefs, rigid family and
social values and very high standard of morality. But these are the same values
that makes a Rajput a Rajput. So the dilemma is what to do. To stick to those
high social and family morals, superb values and sense of pride in Kshatriya
dharma will be fantastic achievement any body will be proud off. But this will
require tremendous mental and spiritual strength. Let us face it. Most of us
will not be able to sustain the efforts required to achieve such a high moral.
History is witness that some of us will fail.
In past a Rajput was outcasted if he failed without giving him another chance.
This had inflicted heartburn and inferiority complex in some of our brothers
leading to a slide in family well-being, social prestige and financial status.
People became praja from raja. Other social groups in India flourished when
Rajputs were going through downward spiral because those social groups or casts
were not required to follow those high standards a Rajput was expected to. That
resulted in a Rajput cast that were either brilliant in every sphere of life or
a group of dumb people going into social oblivion. One has to see the financial
situation and educational status of some of our cast members to believe that we
once ruled India.
Another scenario could be that people are praised for achieving high morals and
ideals of a perfect family and social values but none will be condemn for
failing to achieve that high standards. Because Rajput high standards are tough
to maintain in every sense. In my opinion, people should be encouraged for their
efforts in all the field of life. Be it cinema or science. Rajputs have been
glorious rulers of major part of India in past because they possessed
administrative and leadership quality required during that period. Rajputs
should now show the same
leadership quality in education and science and in liberal arts too. Dance and
music and other performing art is good art and we should not shy away from this.
At least let those people who want to express themselves if they are good at
that. However, if film industry in Bombay is corrupt let us fight against that
corruption to make it a better place for such an artistic talent. And remember,
to clean a sever one has to enter into it. So if Chandrachud, Raja Bundela
and Preity Zinta has opted to go into film industry and make acting their
careers so be it. Let us acknowledge their acting talents without condemning
them. If one do not want to allow his wife and daughter to go into films it is
alright. But if some body wants to go in films it also OK. So guys give other
people a chance to choose their careers based on the talent they posses without
condemning anyone. Rajputs should be leader in every field be it science or
cinema or sports or medicine or engineering. Let us strive for that while
supporting each other and accomplishing at the same time, those moral values our
fore fathers had achieved once.
Jai Bhole,
Dines
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Dear Sumerendra, Please don't take it personally on yourself. It was just a discussion. It seems I was not able to make my point clear. I shall put forth my point again. I never said that we should compromise with our morals and ethics... no... we shouldn't. Infact I also said that I agree with you as the industry is a currept place and I would never defend it. I will never want any woman from my family or even from my community to join it. But... if someones decides to do so, I have no right to force him/her to stop. All I can do is to advice.. rest all depends on his/her upbringing. As you said that Priet Zinta cann't be Rajput since Rajput parents would never allow their daughters to join this field. To this I wanted to add that if some Rajput decides to go off way, we should not deny his/her being a part of us but we should be bold enough to accept that he is one among us, though may not be like us, because s/he may not be braught up the way we were, becaues the values s/he was given, were different than our. We cann't expect all those who are born in a specific community to be alike.. in in our case.. great.. since our community is great. But we had Jaichands if we had Prithvi Rajs. We should not shy away to accept that Jaichand was one of us, because if we do, that would mean that we only want to show others that all of us are alike and all of us are great and that can never be. If we try to analyse why people tend to chose different ways.. not compatible with our values, we will find ourselves responsible. Our rigidity accounts for it. This may sound a little strange but those who have opened themselves and accepted others have always progressed. I don't know how many people I have offended and how many of them I have convinced, but this is the way I feel. I apologize if I offended someone and I am happy if I convinced anyone. Regards, Bharat --- Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Bharat,
Hi,
Jai Deva,
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Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 11:43 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Preity Zinta is a Rajput??? |
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Dear Bharat, I agree that we should be open. However, comprimising one's morals and ethics is not being open. I was born and raised in Canada. I more westernised than any Bollywood actor, because I was born in the West. However, although my thinking is more open than other Rajputs in India, there are certain moral issues that I cannot compromise on. Being open does not mean we follow the degradation of society. Rajputs were admired for their ethics, morals and willingness to die for their beilefs. If we begin to compromise this then there is no difference between us and them. Then there is no reason to praise Rajputs. It is because of our morals and ethics and our unwillingness to compromise on ethical behaviour in society that has won us praise. There is a huge difference between loosing one's morals and being open minded. Reagrds Dr. Chauhan, M.D. Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> wrote:
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Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 12:29 pm Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Preity Zinta is a Rajput??? |
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Dear Sumerendra, Please don't take it personally on yourself. It was just a discussion. It seems I was not able to make my point clear. I shall put forth my point again. I never said that we should compromise with our morals and ethics... no... we shouldn't. Infact I also said that I agree with you as the industry is a currept place and I would never defend it. I will never want any woman from my family or even from my community to join it. But... if someones decides to do so, I have no right to force him/her to stop. All I can do is to advice.. rest all depends on his/her upbringing. As you said that Priet Zinta cann't be Rajput since Rajput parents would never allow their daughters to join this field. To this I wanted to add that if some Rajput decides to go off way, we should not deny his/her being a part of us but we should be bold enough to accept that he is one among us, though may not be like us, because s/he may not be braught up the way we were, becaues the values s/he was given, were different than our. We cann't expect all those who are born in a specific community to be alike.. in in our case.. great.. since our community is great. But we had Jaichands if we had Prithvi Rajs. We should not shy away to accept that Jaichand was one of us, because if we do, that would mean that we only want to show others that all of us are alike and all of us are great and that can never be. If we try to analyse why people tend to chose different ways.. not compatible with our values, we will find ourselves responsible. Our rigidity accounts for it. This may sound a little strange but those who have opened themselves and accepted others have always progressed. I don't know how many people I have offended and how many of them I have convinced, but this is the way I feel. I apologize if I offended someone and I am happy if I convinced anyone. Regards, Bharat --- Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Bharat,
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Jai Deva,
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Dear Bharat, I agree that we should be open. However, comprimising one's morals and ethics is not being open. I was born and raised in Canada. I more westernised than any Bollywood actor, because I was born in the West. However, although my thinking is more open than other Rajputs in India, there are certain moral issues that I cannot compromise on. Being open does not mean we follow the degradation of society. Rajputs were admired for their ethics, morals and willingness to die for their beilefs. If we begin to compromise this then there is no difference between us and them. Then there is no reason to praise Rajputs. It is because of our morals and ethics and our unwillingness to compromise on ethical behaviour in society that has won us praise. There is a huge difference between loosing one's morals and being open minded. Reagrds Dr. Chauhan, M.D. Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> wrote:
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Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 10:56 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Preity Zinta is a Rajput??? | ||||||||||||||||||
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Hi, Deciding infront of whom to dance and infront of whom to not to is entirely individuals decision and is independent of his/her social background. The problem is we still think in the old ways. By this I don't mean that we should promote out ladies joining film industry. I know it is currept and I would never defend it. But the point I am trying to make here is that we must be open to accept what is truth. If she is a Rajput and dancing with different people, we cann't turn our back to it and say that we don't know who she is. Their is a possibility that she is not rajput at all. But let us not jump to this conclusion because she is into showbiz. Chandrachud Singh sure is Rajput and its also not fair for males to dance with different girls. But we still digest this. Now what we call this? Let's not cut people off our society becuase they have librelaized their thoughts. If we do that, then whoever opens up his thinking and try his individualistic ideas, will be thrown out and finally we will be a group of isolated people who would be living in the past, beating drums of our glorious past, our good and bad rituals and no one would be around, listening to us. I know by this I might have made lot of people angry. But I strongly feel that we need to open up our thinking and free our mind. Regards, Bharat --- Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> wrote:
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"D.K. Singh" <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 10:45 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Who are the Katoch....Answer |
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Vow ! That was very enlightening. I was so impressed and was thinking (while reading your mail) maan this guy knows a lot about Katoch's till I read the last line. Now I think you aught to know all these as you are one of the illustrious Katoch descendant. Thanks a lot Dr. Chauhan. I was interested to know about Katoch's because one of college mate in Bareilly, UP was a Katoch from HP. He used to tell us that he is also a rajput. Thanks a lot once again. Dinesh K. Singh Naruka >>> [email protected] 5/11/2004 12:14:21 PM >>> Dear all Jai deva! This in reference to D.K. Singh's question "What Are Katoch?" Katoch, Rajputs descended from Kashmir, Pehalgam area. Ruled the Kingdom of Kangra, Kangra is the central point for all Katoch. Maharaja Sansar Chand of Kangra was the father-in-law of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Emperor of Punjab. The Empress of Punjab was thus called Maharani Katoch. Maharaja Sansar Chand's Younger Brother was Wazeer Ishwari Singh Katoch. Ishwari's daughter was married to Maharaja Devinder Singh of Nabha, so she was called Maharani Nabha. Ishwari's Son was Balak Singh Katoch, Balak Singh's son was Colonel Shiv Raj Singh Katoch. Colonel Shiv Raj Singh Katoch was married to Princess Durga Kumari Rana of the Nepal Rana Dynasty of Maharana Jung Bahadur (descendants of Maharana Pratap). Col Shiv Raj Singh Katoch and Princess Durga Kumari Rana had a daughter, Princess Tribhuvan Kumari Katoch, who is my mother. Sincerely Dr. Kunwar Sumerendra Vir Singh Chauhan, M.D. "D.K. Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: Nice to know about all this. What are Katochs ? Thanks. Research Assistant Professor Department of Microbiology, Immunology and Molecular genetics University of Kansas Medical Center >>> [email protected] 5/11/2004 6:18:22 AM >>> hi, to all of you. i am rajinder singh thakur, a engineering student of punjab engineering college, chandigarh. i am a himachali rajputs, i think most of rajputs in this yahoogroups are from rajasthan and other lower parts of india. i want to tell the members of rajputworld about himachalis rajputs. we himachali rajputs, unlike the rajputs of rajasthan, we are not much famous, but himachal pradesh is the only state in india, which has majority of rajput caste people.rajputs consists of about 60 to 70% of the total population of himachal . this percentage range with about 80% to 85% rajputs in shimla, kullu, mandi and others district of upper himachal to 25 to 50 % in kangra, and other lower himachal belts. rajputs are divided among two subcaste. 80% of rajputs are kanet rajputs, who are decsndents of khasas, the original aryan inhabitants of himachal. the remaining 20 % rajputs are ( also knowns as upper caste rajputs or miyen rajputs or thakurs) are those rajputs which migrated to himachal during 1000 AD from rajasthan, and other parts of north india, after attact of muslim invaders led my ghori.even my ancestors were from somwhere around mewar area.large concentration of rajputs in himachal, uttranchal and jammu is reason for very less concentration of rajputs in punjab, haryana and western UP. infact rajputs are the largest caste groupi in jammu region.but a distance had remained between kanets and thakurs. the powers in himachal has remained with rajputs, and in the 55 years , rajputs had ruled himachal for 52 years. the present CM and leader of opposition both are rajputs. so you see, we himachalis rajputs are lesser known but we control lot of power in himachal.you know preity zinta, the bollywood heroine, is a rajput. so ok for now bye and have a nice day. |
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gyan prakash <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 9:25 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] introduction |
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Hi..... It was really nice to read such an informative letter from rajinder.I was having a bit of knowledge about the himachal peaople but was not aware that we(The Rajputs) are dominating the scene so well.It was really nice to get such valuable info about our society and we should encourage these type of mails as it will go a long way in making us aware about our caste position in this country nothing much to write at this stage.. bye for now... take care ...u all... gyan singh rajinder thakur <[email protected]> wrote: hi, to all of you. i am rajinder singh thakur, a engineering student of punjab engineering college, chandigarh. i am a himachali rajputs, i think most of rajputs in this yahoogroups are from rajasthan and other lower parts of india. i want to tell the members of rajputworld about himachalis rajputs. we himachali rajputs, unlike the rajputs of rajasthan, we are not much famous, but himachal pradesh is the only state in india, which has majority of rajput caste people.rajputs consists of about 60 to 70% of the total population of himachal . this percentage range with about 80% to 85% rajputs in shimla, kullu, mandi and others district of upper himachal to 25 to 50 % in kangra, and other lower himachal belts. rajputs are divided among two subcaste. 80% of rajputs are kanet rajputs, who are decsndents of khasas, the original aryan inhabitants of himachal. the remaining 20 % rajputs are ( also knowns as upper caste rajputs or miyen rajputs or thakurs) are those rajputs which migrated to himachal during 1000 AD from rajasthan, and other parts of north india, after attact of muslim invaders led my ghori.even my ancestors were from somwhere around mewar area.large concentration of rajputs in himachal, uttranchal and jammu is reason for very less concentration of rajputs in punjab, haryana and western UP. infact rajputs are the largest caste groupi in jammu region.but a distance had remained between kanets and thakurs. the powers in himachal has remained with rajputs, and in the 55 years , rajputs had ruled himachal for 52 years. the present CM and leader of opposition both are rajputs. so you see, we himachalis rajputs are lesser known but we control lot of power in himachal.you know preity zinta, the bollywood heroine, is a rajput. so ok for now bye and have a nice day. |
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Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 10:21 am Subject: Preity Zinta is a Rajput??? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Jai Deva, I think we should be a little more critical about our claims before we start tagging film actors as Rajputs. Preity Zinta to my knowledge is not a Rajput. She seems to be Punjabi, or even West Punjabi, but Rajput? Being Rajput is not a joke, and I don't think Rajput parents would like their daughters dancing infront of everyone and being in the arms of different men on the screen. It doesn't fit into how Rajputs think. As far as I know, most families would not want their daughters in the film industry, its very corrupt and not diginified at all. So I reall don't think Priety Zinta is a Rajput. Sure I like her as an actress, and I think she's cute, but she doesn't seem to be a Rajput, and Zinta, is not a Rajput name, it sounds more Multani or West Punjabi. Sincerely Dr. Kunwar Sumerendra Vir Singh Chauhan | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Sumerendra Chauhan <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 10:14 am Subject: Who are the Katoch....Answer | ||||||||||||
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Dear all Jai deva! This in reference to D.K. Singh's question "What Are Katoch?" Katoch, Rajputs descended from Kashmir, Pehalgam area. Ruled the Kingdom of Kangra, Kangra is the central point for all Katoch. Maharaja Sansar Chand of Kangra was the father-in-law of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Emperor of Punjab. The Empress of Punjab was thus called Maharani Katoch. Maharaja Sansar Chand's Younger Brother was Wazeer Ishwari Singh Katoch. Ishwari's daughter was married to Maharaja Devinder Singh of Nabha, so she was called Maharani Nabha. Ishwari's Son was Balak Singh Katoch, Balak Singh's son was Colonel Shiv Raj Singh Katoch. Colonel Shiv Raj Singh Katoch was married to Princess Durga Kumari Rana of the Nepal Rana Dynasty of Maharana Jung Bahadur (descendants of Maharana Pratap). Col Shiv Raj Singh Katoch and Princess Durga Kumari Rana had a daughter, Princess Tribhuvan Kumari Katoch, who is my mother. Sincerely Dr. Kunwar Sumerendra Vir Singh Chauhan, M.D. "D.K. Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: Nice to know about all this. What are Katochs ? Thanks. Research Assistant Professor Department of Microbiology, Immunology and Molecular genetics University of Kansas Medical Center >>> [email protected] 5/11/2004 6:18:22 AM >>> hi, to all of you. i am rajinder singh thakur, a engineering student of punjab engineering college, chandigarh. i am a himachali rajputs, i think most of rajputs in this yahoogroups are from rajasthan and other lower parts of india. i want to tell the members of rajputworld about himachalis rajputs. we himachali rajputs, unlike the rajputs of rajasthan, we are not much famous, but himachal pradesh is the only state in india, which has majority of rajput caste people.rajputs consists of about 60 to 70% of the total population of himachal . this percentage range with about 80% to 85% rajputs in shimla, kullu, mandi and others district of upper himachal to 25 to 50 % in kangra, and other lower himachal belts. rajputs are divided among two subcaste. 80% of rajputs are kanet rajputs, who are decsndents of khasas, the original aryan inhabitants of himachal. the remaining 20 % rajputs are ( also knowns as upper caste rajputs or miyen rajputs or thakurs) are those rajputs which migrated to himachal during 1000 AD from rajasthan, and other parts of north india, after attact of muslim invaders led my ghori.even my ancestors were from somwhere around mewar area.large concentration of rajputs in himachal, uttranchal and jammu is reason for very less concentration of rajputs in punjab, haryana and western UP. infact rajputs are the largest caste groupi in jammu region.but a distance had remained between kanets and thakurs. the powers in himachal has remained with rajputs, and in the 55 years , rajputs had ruled himachal for 52 years. the present CM and leader of opposition both are rajputs. so you see, we himachalis rajputs are lesser known but we control lot of power in himachal.you know preity zinta, the bollywood heroine, is a rajput. so ok for now bye and have a nice day. | ||||||||||||
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"sanjay suryavanshi" <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 7:17 am Subject: ANY BODY HAVING PIC OF MAHARAPRATAP PLZ SEND ME |
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Nice to know about all this. What are Katochs ? Thanks.
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Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 8:15 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] introduction |
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Hello Rajinder That was pretty enlightening. I am sure everyone here knows about himachali Rajputs, but not so much in detail. thank you for letting us know. And who doesn't know about Pretty Zinta, who was termed as 'The only man in the film Industry' by then JCP, Mumbai, when she didn't buckle to threats from Dawood and allies, while Sharukh and Salman changed their statements. Anayway, Welcome to the Group. Regards, Bharat Naruka 600, Asylum Avenue #705, Hartford, CT - 06105 USA --- rajinder thakur <[email protected]> wrote: hi, to all of you. i am rajinder singh thakur, a engineering student of punjab engineering college, chandigarh. i am a himachali rajputs, i think most of rajputs in this yahoogroups are from rajasthan and other lower parts of india. i want to tell the members of rajputworld about himachalis rajputs. we himachali rajputs, unlike the rajputs of rajasthan, we are not much famous, but himachal pradesh is the only state in india, which has majority of rajput caste people.rajputs consists of about 60 to 70% of the total population of himachal . this percentage range with about 80% to 85% rajputs in shimla, kullu, mandi and others district of upper himachal to 25 to 50 % in kangra, and other lower himachal belts. rajputs are divided among two subcaste. 80% of rajputs are kanet rajputs, who are decsndents of khasas, the original aryan inhabitants of himachal. the remaining 20 % rajputs are ( also knowns as upper caste rajputs or miyen rajputs or thakurs) are those rajputs which migrated to himachal during 1000 AD from rajasthan, and other parts of north india, after attact of muslim invaders led my ghori.even my ancestors were from somwhere around mewar area.large concentration of rajputs in himachal, uttranchal and jammu is reason for very less concentration of rajputs in punjab, haryana and western UP. infact rajputs are the largest caste groupi in jammu region.but a distance had remained between kanets and thakurs. the powers in himachal has remained with rajputs, and in the 55 years , rajputs had ruled himachal for 52 years. the present CM and leader of opposition both are rajputs. so you see, we himachalis rajputs are lesser known but we control lot of power in himachal.you know preity zinta, the bollywood heroine, is a rajput. so ok for now bye and have a nice day. |
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ushaba jadeja <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 7:53 am Subject: A word from Rajkot |
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Dear Rajput Friends, I am writing to you once again to tell you about a magazine that we (Rajshakti Trust - I wrote to you about us before) are bringing out for women in rural areas, here in Gujarat. It is a bi-monthly and we have brought out three issues till now and the fourth one is in print. It is called 'Bhamini Bhushan' and I am sending a picture of the title page as an attachment. I would also like to mention that every year we distribute wheat to women who are in need in the urban slums that we are working in. Many of these women are widows who have very little means of earning a livelihood. We also have programmes wherein we teach skills like sewing, etc. so that they can learn to be on their own feet. At the moment we are also looking after the educational needs of a girl who is studying sanskrit for her BA. We hope to be doing more work of this kind. I would like to thank those of you who have sent in contributions. Every little bit helps us do better.I hope you will continue to support us in the same manner. Jai Mataji, Usha |
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abhay singh <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 7:42 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Jai Mataji, |
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Jai Shree Hanuman, I feel so content when i find myself among people like you all. Abhay --- ushaba jadeja <[email protected]> wrote: It is indeed a pleasure to find such community spirit. Wish you the same. Jai Mataji, Usha indy652003 <[email protected]> wrote: Jai Mataji, Its nice to know that such group exists, Let me introduce myself I am Indira from UK, I have enjoyed reading yr emails and interesting to know that lots of people feel strong about our community as I do. Being in touch with our community all over the world gives me lots of pleasure. I hope Mataji keeps you all in the palm of her hands and shower you with all the wealth, health and happiness. kind regards Indira. |
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rajinder thakur <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 4:18 am Subject: introduction | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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hi, to all of you. i am rajinder singh thakur, a engineering student of punjab engineering college, chandigarh. i am a himachali rajputs, i think most of rajputs in this yahoogroups are from rajasthan and other lower parts of india. i want to tell the members of rajputworld about himachalis rajputs. we himachali rajputs, unlike the rajputs of rajasthan, we are not much famous, but himachal pradesh is the only state in india, which has majority of rajput caste people.rajputs consists of about 60 to 70% of the total population of himachal . this percentage range with about 80% to 85% rajputs in shimla, kullu, mandi and others district of upper himachal to 25 to 50 % in kangra, and other lower himachal belts. rajputs are divided among two subcaste. 80% of rajputs are kanet rajputs, who are decsndents of khasas, the original aryan inhabitants of himachal. the remaining 20 % rajputs are ( also knowns as upper caste rajputs or miyen rajputs or thakurs) are those rajputs which migrated to himachal during 1000 AD from rajasthan, and other parts of north india, after attact of muslim invaders led my ghori.even my ancestors were from somwhere around mewar area.large concentration of rajputs in himachal, uttranchal and jammu is reason for very less concentration of rajputs in punjab, haryana and western UP. infact rajputs are the largest caste groupi in jammu region.but a distance had remained between kanets and thakurs. the powers in himachal has remained with rajputs, and in the 55 years , rajputs had ruled himachal for 52 years. the present CM and leader of opposition both are rajputs. so you see, we himachalis rajputs are lesser known but we control lot of power in himachal.you know preity zinta, the bollywood heroine, is a rajput. so ok for now bye and have a nice day. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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ushaba jadeja <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 7:33 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Jai Mataji, |
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It is indeed a pleasure to find such community spirit. Wish you the same.
Jai Mataji, Usha indy652003 <[email protected]> wrote: Jai Mataji, Its nice to know that such group exists, Let me introduce myself I am Indira from UK, I have enjoyed reading yr emails and interesting to know that lots of people feel strong about our community as I do. Being in touch with our community all over the world gives me lots of pleasure. I hope Mataji keeps you all in the palm of her hands and shower you with all the wealth, health and happiness. kind regards Indira. |
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"Krishna Gohil" <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 7:15 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] MUM'S LOVE |
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Dear Mahendrasinh bapu Thank you very much ke tame mane yaad kario. I reached bahrain on today 11/5/04 6.30am so i could not remain active in this group as earlier. Jay mataji Krishna Gohil On Sun, 09 May 2004 M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]> wrote : Dear All, This message of Krishnasinh Gohil is reposted on today's mother's day. Bye the way where is new stuff from Krishnasinh which is liked and admired by many of us. Regards, Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krishna Gohil" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:29 PM >Subject: Re: Re: [RajputWorld ] Subject: FW: Rs. 500 - Must read... > > >MUM'S LOVE > >When you were 1 year old, she fed you and bathed you >You thanked her by crying all night long > >When you were 2 years old, she taught you to walk >You thanked her by running away when she called > >When you were 3 years old, she made all your meals with love >You thanked her by tossing your plate on the floor > >When you were 4 years old, she gave you some crayons >You thanked her by coloring the dining room table > >When you were 5 years old, she dressed you for the holidays >You thanked her by plopping into the nearest pool > >When you were 6 years old, she walked you to school >You thanked her by screaming "I'm NOT GOING!" > >When you were 7 years old, she bought you a baseball >You thanked her by throwing it through the neighbour's window > >When you were 8 years old, she handed you an icecream >You thanked her by dripping it all over your lap > >When you were 9 years old, she paid for piano lessons >You thanked her by never even bothering to practice > >When you were 10 years old, she drove you all day, > from soccer to gymnastics, to one birthday party after another >You thanked her by jumping out of the car and never looking back > >When you were 11 years old, she took you and your friends to the movies >You thanked her by asking her to sit in a different row > >When you were 12 years old, she warned you not to watch certain TV shows >You thanked her by waiting until she left the house > >When you were 13, she suggested a haircut >You thanked her by telling her, she had no taste > >When you were 14, she paid for a month away at Summer Camp >You thanked her by forgetting to write a single letter > >When you were 15, she came home from work, looking for a hug >You thanked her by having your bedroom door locked > >When you were 16, she taught you how to drive her car >You thanked her by taking it every chance you could > >When you were 17, she was expecting an important call >You thanked her by being on the phone all night > >When you were 18, she cried at your high school graduation >You thanked her by staying out partying until dawn > >When you were 19, she paid for your college tuition, >drove you to campus, carried your bags >You thanked her by saying good-bye outside the dorm, >so you would'nt be embarrassed in front of your friends > >When you were 20, she asked whether you were seeing anyone >You thanked her by saying, It's none of your business > >When you were 21, she suggested certain careers for your future >You thanked her by saying, I don't want to be like you. > >When you were 22, she hugged you at your college graduation >You thanked her by asking whether she could pay for a trip to Europe > >When you were 23, she gave you furniture for your first apartment >You thanked her by telling your friends it was ugly > >When you were 24, she met your fiance and asked about >your plans for the future >You thanked her by glaring and growling, "Muuhh-ther please!" > >When you were 25, she helped you pay for your wedding >and she cried and told you how deeply she loved you >You thanked her by moving halfway across the country > >When you were 30, she called with some advice on the baby >You thanked her by telling her, "Things are different now" > >When you were 40, she called to remind you of a relative's birthday >You thanked her by saying you were "really busy right now" > >When you were 50, she fell ill and needed you to take care of her >You thanked her by reading about >the burden parents become to their children > >And then, one day, she quietly died, >And everything you never did came crashing down >like thunder on YOUR HEART > >IF SHE'S STILL AROUND, NEVER FORGET TO LOVE HER MORE THAN EVER >AND IF SHE'S NOT, REMEMBER HER UNCONDITIONAL LOVE >AND PASS IT ON > >ALWAYS REMEMBER TO LOVE THY MOTHER >BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE >ONE MOTHER IN YOUR LIFETIME > >JAY MATAJI > >Krishnasinh Gohil |
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"M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 11, 2004 3:47 am Subject: Message archive updated. |
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Dear
All, Message
archives of Yahoo group of Rajput World with
inclusion old yahoo group of allrajput has been
updated. All the messages since January 2002 has been archived
in single web pages for easy and faster surfing with compact printable format. All the messages are available at site http://www.geocities.com/rajput_world . Regards, Mahendrasinh Chudasama,
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We also wish you the same Indira.
Dinesh Naruka
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"Rajnish Singh" <[email protected]> Date: Sun May 9, 2004 9:46 pm Subject: from Sydney |
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Jai Mata di, it is rajnish ,I am a new member and also new in Sydney.I just joined UNSW ,as post graduate student.I hope we will established a strong ,dynamic presence of Rajput Familly. Mob No#0 43139 7744 urs Rajnish K Singh |
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Message 238 |
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From:
"indy652003" <[email protected]> Date: Sun May 9, 2004 12:41 pm Subject: Jai Mataji, |
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Jai Mataji, Its nice to know that such group exists, Let me introduce myself I am Indira from UK, I have enjoyed reading yr emails and interesting to know that lots of people feel strong about our community as I do. Being in touch with our community all over the world gives me lots of pleasure. I hope Mataji keeps you all in the palm of her hands and shower you with all the wealth, health and happiness. kind regards Indira. |
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Message 237 |
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From:
"sanjay suryavanshi" <[email protected]> Date: Sun May 9, 2004 3:29 am Subject: Maharanaprap jayanti ki subhkamnayain |
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Message 236 |
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From:
"M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Sun May 9, 2004 12:25 am Subject: MUM'S LOVE |
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Dear All, This message of Krishnasinh Gohil is reposted on today's mother's day. Bye the way where is new stuff from Krishnasinh which is liked and admired by many of us. Regards, Mahendrasinh Chudasama, Dubai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krishna Gohil" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Re: [RajputWorld ] Subject: FW: Rs. 500 - Must read... MUM'S LOVE When you were 1 year old, she fed you and bathed you You thanked her by crying all night long When you were 2 years old, she taught you to walk You thanked her by running away when she called When you were 3 years old, she made all your meals with love You thanked her by tossing your plate on the floor When you were 4 years old, she gave you some crayons You thanked her by coloring the dining room table When you were 5 years old, she dressed you for the holidays You thanked her by plopping into the nearest pool When you were 6 years old, she walked you to school You thanked her by screaming "I'm NOT GOING!" When you were 7 years old, she bought you a baseball You thanked her by throwing it through the neighbour's window When you were 8 years old, she handed you an icecream You thanked her by dripping it all over your lap When you were 9 years old, she paid for piano lessons You thanked her by never even bothering to practice When you were 10 years old, she drove you all day, from soccer to gymnastics, to one birthday party after another You thanked her by jumping out of the car and never looking back When you were 11 years old, she took you and your friends to the movies You thanked her by asking her to sit in a different row When you were 12 years old, she warned you not to watch certain TV shows You thanked her by waiting until she left the house When you were 13, she suggested a haircut You thanked her by telling her, she had no taste When you were 14, she paid for a month away at Summer Camp You thanked her by forgetting to write a single letter When you were 15, she came home from work, looking for a hug You thanked her by having your bedroom door locked When you were 16, she taught you how to drive her car You thanked her by taking it every chance you could When you were 17, she was expecting an important call You thanked her by being on the phone all night When you were 18, she cried at your high school graduation You thanked her by staying out partying until dawn When you were 19, she paid for your college tuition, drove you to campus, carried your bags You thanked her by saying good-bye outside the dorm, so you would'nt be embarrassed in front of your friends When you were 20, she asked whether you were seeing anyone You thanked her by saying, It's none of your business When you were 21, she suggested certain careers for your future You thanked her by saying, I don't want to be like you. When you were 22, she hugged you at your college graduation You thanked her by asking whether she could pay for a trip to Europe When you were 23, she gave you furniture for your first apartment You thanked her by telling your friends it was ugly When you were 24, she met your fiance and asked about your plans for the future You thanked her by glaring and growling, "Muuhh-ther please!" When you were 25, she helped you pay for your wedding and she cried and told you how deeply she loved you You thanked her by moving halfway across the country When you were 30, she called with some advice on the baby You thanked her by telling her, "Things are different now" When you were 40, she called to remind you of a relative's birthday You thanked her by saying you were "really busy right now" When you were 50, she fell ill and needed you to take care of her You thanked her by reading about the burden parents become to their children And then, one day, she quietly died, And everything you never did came crashing down like thunder on YOUR HEART IF SHE'S STILL AROUND, NEVER FORGET TO LOVE HER MORE THAN EVER AND IF SHE'S NOT, REMEMBER HER UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND PASS IT ON ALWAYS REMEMBER TO LOVE THY MOTHER BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MOTHER IN YOUR LIFETIME JAY MATAJI Krishnasinh Gohil |
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Message 235 |
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From:
"sayvari" <[email protected]> Date: Sat May 8, 2004 7:43 am Subject: Re: dowry in our caste |
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Namaste Tripti, I share similar feelings about dowry in the Rajputworld. Four of my cousins got married in other communities because of the reasons mentioned by you. One of my sister is still unmarried. First of all our upbringing makes us look suitable match within our community making us inward looking and not outward. And we hesitate to make a decision in choosing someone from another community, But soon people are shedding this ideology. This will a great loss for our community but then its the administrators of our community to blame who do not have a foresight. Wishing you all the best, Sanjay Varma |
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Message 234 |
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From:
"sayvari" <[email protected]> Date: Sat May 8, 2004 7:27 am Subject: New Member |
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Namaste, It was indeed a surprise to come across this Group and did not spare a moment in joining it. If I could be of any help please contact. I had the oppotunity to read the past messages "to unite the Rajput Community". Under the Rajput Group itself in Yahoo there are more than 10 other Groups. I am from Mumbai even there the Rajput Association was nothing but a get together of the rich and elite of Mumbai. Associations are there to provide a level field for all sections of the Commmunity and not a privy to a few. We also have a Rana Pratap Co-op Bank which has no social (or moral) objective other than enriching the the rich and influential. Of course the Rajput History has been glorious in the past, it would be a great achievement, if it could be continued in the future collectively, rather than individually. I wish if the database of Rajputs in this websites would have a respectful number. I cam across an interesting website on India which needs a look at http://esamskriti.com/html/essays.asp It discusses some of the issues discussed and much more in the posts over here. Rest later, Hari OM, Sanjay |
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Message 233 |
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From:
Ajay Singh <[email protected]> Date: Sat May 8, 2004 6:13 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] A rajput brother in sydney Ajit bapu |
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Hello Yajy, One of the key members who was instrumental in this group is in Australia....Ajit Rathod, You guys should touch base, and have a local community setup there... i am sure there a lot of other Rajputs in Australia who can benefit from the Initiative. I see a lot of such needs in other places also... Lets go out with the mantra "Think global Act local"... and strengthen our interactions and associations. Great going folks.. would love to hear of all the associations across the world and what their learning’s have been and the activities that they are undertaking for the samaj. Thanks and Regards, Ajay Kumar Singh P --- jimmy <[email protected]> wrote: Jai Mataji, Jai Mataji, I am very glad to read all the mails from our community .I was looking for our rajput samaj in sydney but couldn't find any so i was little bit nervous that we havent got a big community but reading all this mails i am very happy that all our rajput samaj spread all over the world. I would like to meet you if you have time . I am also very busy during the weekdays due to my job but if we can arrange the time we can meet here. I am leaving my address and contact details so that you can contact me. CityView Appartment 310/65 shaftedbury road Burwood-2134 NSW Mobile : 0431 081 325. Take care Yaju |
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Message 232 |
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From:
"jimmy" <[email protected]> Date: Sat May 8, 2004 1:19 am Subject: A rajput brother in sydney Ajit bapu |
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Jai Mataji, I am very glad to read all the mails from our community .I was looking for our rajput samaj in sydney but couldn't find any so i was little bit nervous that we havent got a big community but reading all this mails i am very happy that all our rajput samaj spread all over the world. I would like to meet you if you have time . I am also very busy during the weekdays due to my job but if we can arrange the time we can meet here. I am leaving my address and contact details so that you can contact me. CityView Appartment 310/65 shaftedbury road Burwood-2134 NSW Mobile : 0431 081 325. Take care Yaju |
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Message 230 |
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From:
"sanjay suryavanshi" <[email protected]> Date: Thu May 6, 2004 8:56 pm Subject: Role Of Rajput Youth In Global Devlopment |
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Dear all I am having a question in my my mind- What is the role of youth rajput in global devlopment Role of youth in Rajput socity devlopment, anti dovery system founding For this i devlop an web page named www.sanjaysuryavanshi.itgo.com Why not we people stable an Kshattriya Sena for unite our community Thanks And regards sanjay suryavanshi www.sanjaysuryavanshi.itgo.com |
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Message 229 |
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From:
"Rajnish Singh" <[email protected]> Date: Thu May 6, 2004 7:34 pm Subject: new member |
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Message 228 |
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From:
tripti shatru <[email protected]> Date: Thu May 6, 2004 5:37 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] united rajput |
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Thanks mr. M. B. Chudasama, that’s what I mean I am not interested in particular member. I am interested in general topics in which we can discuss. I don’t know why people want me to contact them. I that’s why publisized there mail but they still continue. If I would be interested in knowing there address there phone or cell no or their caste etc etc then I would have contact them personally. I just wanted to use net as productive way not for bakwas…. I am happy that I come across some people whom I really appreciate… they really contribute a lot for our society. People like u and Alok…. Thanks a lot for creating this group and giving us a platform to discuss general topic which I always like to do with my family members. Regards Tripti "M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> wrote:
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Message 227 |
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From:
"M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Thu May 6, 2004 1:22 am Subject: Fw: [RajputWorld ] united rajput |
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This is for general mail and is not aimed at any particular member. Still
some people don't know the basic concept of group mail. This is web based
auto program that any mail you post or reply at group mail address will
reach to all group member. If any member want to one to one mailing can do
so making sure email is addressed at particular mail id and is not addressed
at group mail address i.e.
[email protected] This will remove confusion our member. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ketan R" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] united rajput Dear Tripti I'm Ketan Rathod ok not Sanjay ji bye --- tripti shatru <[email protected]> wrote: hello sanjay thaks for asking. nothing much... trying to do something. anyway sanjay ji may i know more about u? jai mata ji to all of u, i have a question i my mind.... . like What is the consequence of dowry in our caste, in educated and uneducated, rich and poor, employed and unemployed Rajput???? waitng for reply tripti sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> wrote: hi tripti wht r u doing now days sanjay |
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Message 226 |
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From:
"ajatripti" <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 5, 2004 10:56 pm Subject: dowry in our caste |
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Jai mata ki to all of u! I like your views Bharat, and thanks for the discussion on this topic. As u said "Dowry plays same role whatsoever be the community". I would like to say I don't care for other society.. I care for my society, which is the Rajput society. Rajput r known for there dignity and morels but still we have such kind of system. Bharat I am very selfish here I want everything good and discipline in my caste. Well as a gal I find this system very very humiliating, I never like to marry such a man who cant earn on his own, he who want to stile down his home with the money which he will get from dowry. And in laws r concern why do they think the need of respect from their beloved Bahu when they measure her with money and so called qualifications. Qualification like she should be fair tall educated homely working and what not…. Pata nahi bhagwan bhi itni pratibha kisi ko deta hai….. kya unkey beton ko diya hai? I know some reason why they ask for dowry…. There r some! 1. B'cas we spend money on boys education… to get job etc. 2. we have to show the society how much we got and where we stand…. 3. to arrange everything in a marriage like the reception and party gatherings. 4. jo aap degey who beti ko hi degey… 5. and so many countless reason. I don't know where r those bechare bete who disappear like gadhey key upper sey sing while there parents r putting demands. And where r those parents who cash there betes' qualifications and eligibility to get marry. Sorry I never like to be so rude….. this is the bitterness I have faced so many … and endless times. I was kind of fed of with these demands of this society. And exactly at that very moment I got a true person in my life, who hold my hand with proud and I married to him. I really feel proud of him. It was kind of dream which come true. I am very happy. Don't know how many gals in Rajput society r lucky like me. But I know they r frustrated like me, I still have that bitterness in me. All of u in Rajput world I pray to all of u…. please fight with this evil. It spreading like transmittable decease, before harm that much which cant be repaired…. do something. I am not saying to change the whole society in one-stake…. but just to change your own views. And cure your self and start from your own home. I know there may be good reason why we cant why we r not able to do it… but it think we have sufficient reason why we should implement it! I am sorry if I hurt anyone… I wrote what I felt. Take care tripti |
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Message 225 |
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From:
Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 5, 2004 3:26 pm Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] united rajput |
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Hi All, Dowry plays same role whatsoever be the community, educational background or the financial status. It plays role of inducing suffering, losing faith, increasing hatred and gradually morphing us into greedy beasts, who would not hesitate even charring our daughter-in-laws to death, who were braught up by some caring hands with great pains and sacrifices, probably, as much as we bring up our children. Thouh, most suffered ones are those who are more backward financially, as they cann't afford colossal demands. If they borrow money, they keep carrying the burden for all thier life and die paying back. But those who are well off, are also not spared, because their is not limit to greed, there is no end to desires. Even if payed once as per demand, a greedy man cann't be believed to not to ask for more. And if he asks, and we deny, thinking about the consequences can shake us to our roots. Dowry also brings in corruption, because we tend to earn money by hook and by crook so that we can find a bright match for our kids, who infact is going to cost us hell. How can we be so shameless? Why the parents of girl, who have nurtured her with love and care, should pay to part from thier kid? We need to change these rules. Regards, Bharat --- tripti shatru <[email protected]> wrote: hello sanjay thaks for asking. nothing much... trying to do something. anyway sanjay ji may i know more about u? jai mata ji to all of u, i have a question i my mind.... . like What is the consequence of dowry in our caste, in educated and uneducated, rich and poor, employed and unemployed Rajput???? waitng for reply tripti sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> wrote: hi tripti wht r u doing now days sanjay |
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Message 224 |
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From:
Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 5, 2004 2:59 pm Subject: Suggestion |
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Guys, I would appriciate if we avoid personal mail to this group ID. This would help creating interest in group and group mails as our mailboxes will not be stuffed with unwanted mails. No hard feelings.. just a suggestion. Regards, Bharat Singh Naruka --- sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> wrote: hi tripti thnx fr ur rply i m sanjay suryavanshi, an MBA doing job with advertising company in noida near by delhi, very soon plan to start my own company. u can know more abt me at www.sanjaysuryavanshi.itgo.com waiting fr ur rply rgds sanjay 9-810-810-349 tripti shatru <[email protected]> wrote: hello sanjay thaks for asking. nothing much... trying to do something. anyway sanjay ji may i know more about u? jai mata ji to all of u, i have a question i my mind.... . like What is the consequence of dowry in our caste, in educated and uneducated, rich and poor, employed and unemployed Rajput???? waitng for reply tripti sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> wrote: hi tripti wht r u doing now days sanjay |
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Message 223 |
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From:
sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 5, 2004 6:03 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] united rajput |
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hi tripti
thnx fr ur rply
i m sanjay suryavanshi, an MBA doing job with advertising company in noida near by delhi, very soon plan to start my own company.
u can know more abt me at
www.sanjaysuryavanshi.itgo.com
waiting fr ur rply
rgds
sanjay
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Message 222 |
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From:
Ketan R <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 4, 2004 12:07 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] united rajput |
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hi sanjay
tripti is doing asusual ok take care bye sweetheart --- sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> wrote: hi tripti wht r u doing now days sanjay _ |
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Message 220 |
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From:
"ajatripti" <[email protected]> Date: Wed May 5, 2004 5:13 am Subject: dowry in our caste |
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hello sanjay thaks for asking. nothing much... trying to do something. anyway sanjay ji may i know more about u? jai mata ji to all of u, i have a question for discussion. What is the consequence of dowry in our caste, in educated and uneducated, rich and poor, employed and unemployed Rajput???? waitng for reply tripti sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> wrote: hi tripti wht r u doing now days sanjay |
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Message 219 |
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From:
"myajayksp" <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 4, 2004 11:54 am Subject: London Confrence |
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Hello Folks, It time for us to make some plans on how we want to enable the global communities progress ahead. Lets start inking out our visions and use the London conference to give it direction. Pls come up with ideas and suggestions which we can work towards building a stronger community. Btw the idea of a Global Rajput's Database was a great one and is being worked upon. We should have a platform to facilitate the same very soon. Will keep you posted of the same. Thanks and Regards Ajay Kumar Singh P |
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Message 218 |
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From:
"myajayksp" <[email protected]> Date: Tue May 4, 2004 11:46 am Subject: Two postdoctoral positions are available immediately |
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Dear Folks, One of our members Mr. D. K Singh, wanted to share this opeaning for fellow Rajputs. Any one in the field pls look up the details below. Thanks D K, really appreciate it. We would welcome such inputs from other member Rajputs too... Thanks and Regards, Ajay Kumar Singh Two postdoctoral positions are available immediately in Dr. Bala Chandran's laboratory (http://www.kumc.edu/instruction/medicine/microbio/bc.html ) for two NIH-funded researches to study the entry, infection, host gene modulation and signal transduction by Kaposi's sarcoma associated herpesvirus (KSHV/HHV-8). Experience in cutting edge molecular biology/virology, signal pathways, gene regulation, transcription factors, cell biology techniques and communication skills are essential. Applicants may review positions J0010827 and J0083263 and must complete an Internet application at http://jobs.kumc.edu Attach CV and letter of interests with three references.
The
University of Kansas Medical Center is an Affirmative Action/Equal
Opportunity Employer. |
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Message 217 |
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From:
sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> Date: Mon May 3, 2004 8:58 pm Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] united rajput |
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hi tripti wht r u doing now days sanjay |
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Message 216 |
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From:
sanjay suryavanshi <[email protected]> Date: Mon May 3, 2004 8:56 pm Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Just Say to.... |
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Message 215 |
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From:
Bharat Naruka <[email protected]> Date: Mon May 3, 2004 2:28 pm Subject: Jai mataji ki |
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Hi All, So good to know that such group exists. I am more than happy to join the group and be in touch with community people from all over the world. Regards, Bharat |
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Message 214 |
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From:
"M. B. Chudasama<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Date: Mon May 3, 2004 9:52 am Subject: Re: [RajputWorld ] Re: Rajput world wide directory or data base. |
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Dear
All, We missed
out important creative things of uniting Rajput from
world by making some data base and spent too much after some less important topics
of Muslim Rajput ( nonsense
). !! Any
way Aditya and his team at Ranayouth
has started working in this direction. Bye the time I request
all member at this group to fill out data base created at this site. (Members
has to be careful while giving any tel. nos. or any details publicly) Visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rajputworld/database
and update database.
Regards, Mahendrasinh Chudasama, From:
"Ajit Rathod"
<[email protected]> To:
<[email protected]> Sent:
Subject:
[RajputWorld ] Re: Rajput world wide directory
or data base.
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Original Message ----- From:
"Krishna Gohil" <[email protected]> To:
<[email protected]> Sent:
Subject:
Re: [RajputWorld ] Rajput world wide directory or
data base. This
is really very good suggestion and this is now the requirement of time. In
following way we can make the database
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Message 213 |
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From:
parikshitsinh gohil <[email protected]> Date: Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:45 am Subject: jay mataji ! |
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jay mataji, khamma ghani
i think i should'nt give my intro. to all rajput brothers & elders.. miss u all in this group,
but i want 2 know that what's muslim-rajput.??? isn't sounds funny or may b real !!!!!!!!!!!!!
any buddy help me 2 understand this....
chalo tyare,
jay mataji & khamma ghani.
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Message 212 |
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From:
"ketan_r209" <[email protected]> Date: Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:05 am Subject: Just Say to.... |
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All my Rajput brothers and Vadils I'm really happy to see this page of RAJPUTWORLD who have done this page thank you verymuch always continue making like this and if you need any help Pls. contect me at my ID I'm always online with my MOBILE Thank you Ketan R |
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Message 211 |
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From:
"Krishna Gohil" <[email protected]> Date: Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:36 pm Subject: Important Lesson - Cleaning Lady |
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Important Lesson - Cleaning Lady. |