heartwarmer_: easy way out......but only for the time being heartwarmer_: easy way out......but only for the time being
--redeemed--:
the bible says,,,DIE ONCE,,,THEN THE JUDGEMENT,,!!heartwarmer_:
lol redeemed.........caps!!!!asazahn:
how can we die once if we are supposed to be born again?heartwarmer_:
the bible says a lot of things....warlokasazahn:
now what is it, are we to die only once to be born again and live forever or does not death come to even the "born again"?lady.josefina:
We make decisions based on what we "feel"--redeemed--:
there are 2 deaths,,,a spiritual death,,and a death of the flesh,,asazahn:
but it is appointed unto man once to dieeternumpace:
in a very real sense the physical body or daemon wave is a living death and resurrectionlady.josefina:
like or what it is we "don't care" foreternumpace:
"the son"--redeemed--:
flesh death ,,when the body dies,,,spiritual death,,,when you reject JESUS as SAVIOUR,,,asazahn:
your tight I have no faith in my existence I have knowledge of it, lolasazahn:
well that would be TWO deaths redeemedasazahn:
yesasazahn:
lol ???lady.josefina:
Sometimes we have a feeling of indifference or even one ofeternumpace:
it is interesting to note that we as a race have only begun questionion our immortality for a fraction of our entire species' lifeheartwarmer_:
oops!.....sorry bout that...paceasazahn:
well is that not an assumption Heart?eternumpace:
heart. there are people in vp who should learn that word. but i am certain you are not one of them :-)lady.josefina:
The point being we act from as much an emotional level as logicalheartwarmer_:
only saw the typing coming over my head.....so i guess i was sitting on someone..*s*--redeemed--:
one death in the flesh,,,means no reincarnation,,,asazahn:
just because we can not prove that early man was thinking does not mean that they were not just as capable of the same thoughts, wouldn't you agree?eternumpace:
redeemed, on what do you base that conclusion?lady.josefina:
People make decisionseternumpace:
asa, if you are referring to me, i was implicating ancient man in paragons of thiking, not the converse--redeemed--:
dddie once in the flesh,,,and then the judgement,,,(BIBLE)preciousk16:
ok tc everyonepreciousk16:
was nice chatting with u allheartwarmer_:
you too....precious.....take care....BBasazahn:
it is a proven fact that energy can not be destoyed, it can be transformed but never destoyedeternumpace:
yepasazahn:
c ya preciousasazahn:
well ,then I will not continue to state them as such, lol--redeemed--:
ASA,,,AND THAT ENERGY IS YOUR SOUL...and you are right,,,the soul will live forever,,,where is the big question,,lady.josefina:
Knowing or thinkingasazahn:
oh , here it comes the big Spiritual extortion playasazahn:
who created hell redeemed?lady.josefina:
oh jesusasazahn:
c ya bwasazahn:
like that twilightasazahn:
it's nicelady.josefina:
We all have moods and we all are effected by them, by our emotions. For many though--redeemed--:
asa,,,hell...was created for the devil and his angels,,,,follow the devil ...in this life,,,then he is your god,,,follow JESUS and HE will prepare a place for you in heaven,,lady.josefina:
a mind thinksheartwarmer_:
not necessarily....redeemedlady.josefina:
a soul knows right from wrongheartwarmer_:
only so many spaces up there......aint there...*s*asazahn:
so are you saying that the "devil" is in hell?heartwarmer_:
lol--redeemed--:
heart,,,always room for one more,,,always..heartwarmer_:
not according to the bible though huhheartwarmer_:
.......and the preacherseternumpace:
"IN the mysteries of Eleusis, the initiate, returning in contemplation to the goddess mother of the mysteries, became detahed reflectively from the fate of his mortal frame (symbolically, the son, who dies) and identified with the principle that is ever reborn, the Being of all beings (the serpent Father): whereupon, in the world where only sorrow and death had been seen, the rapture was recognized of an everlasting becoming - " Joseph Campbell, Occidental Myth--redeemed--:
heart,,,beware of what all preachers say,,,heartwarmer_:
lolheartwarmer_:
but you're a preacherheartwarmer_:
hahahhaha.....--redeemed--:
study the bible for yourself,,heartwarmer_:
i got rid of mine.....sorryheartwarmer_:
lol twilighteternumpace:
i like the book of John, redeemed--redeemed--:
heart,,,i try to lead people into the bible,,,then they make their own decision,,,heartwarmer_:
no.......i wouldn't agree....eternumpace:
and i follow the ancient philosophy that everything is a bit rightheartwarmer_:
i have constantly seen you bible thump....heartwarmer_:
and when peeps don't want to hear......you thump onheartwarmer_:
that's as bad as doing.......love magickheartwarmer_:
forcing yourself upon peeps--redeemed--:
heart,,,there are many bibles,,,i pray you will give it another try,,eternumpace:
heart, is there a point to this?heartwarmer_:
yepeternumpace:
please, enlighten me--redeemed--:
ty twi,,,i appreciate thateternumpace:
this is , afterall, a World Religion room and redeemed is quite welcomeasazahn:
Jesus Christ, having noted the faith and rightousness of a Roman centurian, a Pagan, proclaimed "Assuredly I say to you, I have not found such faith, not even in all Isreal! And I say to you that many will come from east ans west, and sit-down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. (Matthew 8:10-12)heartwarmer_:
pleeeeeeeeeeeease don't bible thump......we're all from different times and places and backgrounds.......i don't shove my views down people's throats.....cause i know everyone is different.....and i don't tell people that they'll go to hell or somewhere just because they don't believe what i do....!!!........that do for ya?asazahn:
Jesus is Coll , it's Christians that give him a bad name.asazahn:
Cool even loleternumpace:
you can choose whether to be offended or not, that is your noble rightasazahn:
lol--redeemed--:
asa,,,i need to agree with you,,,many christians give JESUS a bad name,,,because they don't know the truth of the scriptures,,lady.josefina:
woweternumpace:
it is also interesting to point out, at least it is my feeling, that this "christianity", many of whome use the term quite too freely, is largely , it seems being use pejoratively to mean all authoritarian philospophyasazahn:
well friends I have to be going.. thank you all for the chat, Blessed Be , You In Me. :)lady.josefina:
nice seeing ya asazahneternumpace:
alohaheartwarmer_:
i think that christianity is wholly based on doing good for people.......but the problem is that it is filled with hypocricy the same as everywhere else......eternumpace:
that's just cynical. the truth of the matter is people being people are political animalseternumpace:
so lets get down to the business of facing our selves as god does in the book of john and be done with itlady.josefina:
been through quite a bit m'self seen alot, and nursed amany and lost afew,and still i believe in what i feel, in heart comes from m'soul and is goodeternumpace:
people that seem obsessed with the relative worth of one faith or another one creed or another are wholly consumed by a lack of faith in reality; let's talk about that.that discussion would interest me very muchlady.josefina:
alot of saddness in this worldeternumpace:
a lot of joy in the world as welllady.josefina:
one person changing the world would take a mericallady.josefina:
aye but i trylady.josefina:
grinseternumpace:
life is everday a infinite miraclelady.josefina:
no kiddingeternumpace:
we are surrounded my the miraculouslady.josefina:
also full of deatheternumpace:
all of nature sings in gratitude for every breath. and so do we when we listen to our selveseternumpace:
yes. that is true, too, lady, and life in deathlady.josefina:
some say thats a miracleeternumpace:
no. not always the answers we want. but answers are around alwayslady.josefina:
but keep the faithlady.josefina:
well loose your husband to deathlady.josefina:
or your daughterlady.josefina:
a mother and so oneternumpace:
my personal opinion that we humans are much too demanding and judgmental of our selveslady.josefina:
it is hard to live withlady.josefina:
but to have a good heart whether it is weak or stronglady.josefina:
takes time...never loose hopelady.josefina:
faithlady.josefina:
always believeeternumpace:
the human soul is a living sepulchre in which hope itself needs be murdered--redeemed--:
JESUS said,,,I will never leave you nor forsake you,,,that's good enough for me,,,through all my troubles in 70 years,,,HE has always been there for me,,,and HE will do the same for you ,,,if you believe,,,i promise,,,eternumpace:
I believe you, redeemed. i really do, sirlady.josefina:
yeah i have known that all m'life too m'friendlady.josefina:
moneylady.josefina:
money route of all evil toolady.josefina:
wheweternumpace:
yes. i suppose it can be a factor but one must always keep in mind that adverse events contain the seeds of our future, so nothing is purely "evil"lady.josefina:
that threw everyone of the topic--redeemed--:
bible says,,,the love of money is the root of all evil,,,nothing wrong with money,,,only the love of moneylady.josefina:
appoligieseternumpace:
good point, redlady.josefina:
agreedlady.josefina:
no wonders i never win the big lotterylady.josefina:
lolheartwarmer_:
got to go.......take care all......*s*......eternumpace:
aloha, heartwarmerlady.josefina:
anon heart have a nice dayheartwarmer_:
and you....*s*.......have a peaceful one....lady.josefina:
aye ty