Words of the Living God given to Bob Neuman over a period of time.
Holy
Indignation versus the American Apostasy
HUMANISM
and THE MORAL IMPERATIVE:
the two headed dragon of the Balkans.
Bob Neumann
Dear Friends, this day began at just after 2am. I kept getting these strong images coming up deep from my spirit man. some clear and some vague. some down right weird. if it was not for HIS PRESENCE and HIS PEACE all could have been ignored and forgotten. but I could not. the first was..."you can get what you ask for.....you can't get what you want, girl..." yes that is part of an old "Rolling Stones'' song. like I said....weird.
the second was '' a broken heart will not be despised''.....at least that was scripture.
but the third was...."we're Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.....''.
for three hours I kept hearing songs from an album I had not listened to for ???25+ years???????
now I know Kingly humor when I hear it....but this was not it. so I kept asking what, how, and why about this ''flash back''. and had no answer...until a new tune rolled out from my past....even older than the STONES and THE BEATLES......
''keep a movin' Dan
he's a devil not a man
and he spreads the burning sand with water....
cool clear water....(echo)water....''
now please understand I was listening to the whole song over and over for an hour. Roy Rogers and the Sons of the Pioneers singing "cool water".... I was singing along with the base part in the shower when I realized this was getting strange. on the drive to church/work I switched to the old Dallas Holmes song "Only ONE LORD"....another
song from back in my memory....but at least it made sense. as if sense means anything right now.
while we were in prayer prior to service all these images came back and got added to. the SONG/MELODY as the week before was ''Take me in to the HOLY OF HOLIES..... Take me in by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.'' The lyrics flowed during worship.....
the WORD began....
ONLY ONE LORD, ONLY ONE GOD.
ONLY THE BROKEN HEARTED,
ONLY THE CRUSHED IN SPIRIT,
ONLY THOSE WHOSE HEARTS ARE TENDER
WILL I POUR INTO THIS DAY.
NO MORE DISTRACTIONS,
NO MORE AGENDAS,
NO MORE EXCUSES,
NO MORE LITTLE GODS
WILL I TOLERATE THIS DAY.
ARE YOU TIRED OF BEING BARREN?
ARE YOU TIRED OF BEING SHAMED?
ARE YOU TIRED OF BEING THIRST?
ARE YOU TIRED OF BEING MOCKED?
WILL YOU SING THE SONG OF HANNAH THIS DAY?
WILL YOU NOW SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE?
WILL YOU IGNORE THE COMMENTS OF MAN?
WILL YOU COME NOW TO MY TABERNACLE?
WILL YOU PUT ALL YOUR TRUST IN ME?
WILL YOU GIVE ALL TO ME THIS DAY?
COME TO ME LIKE POOR BROKEN HANNAH.
COME TO ME AND CALL UPON MY NAME.
POUR OUT YOUR FEAR AND YOUR PAIN.
HOLD BACK NOT THE TEARS AND THE SHAME.
FOR A NEW HEART I GIVE YOU THIS DAY.
HANNAH ASKED FOR WHAT I DESIRED TO GIVE.
HANNAH NEEDED WHAT ONLY I COULD GIVE.
FOR WHEN HANNAH VOWED TO GIVE BACK
HER HEARTS DESIRE IN SERVICE ONLY TO ME
HER MIRACLE WAS SEALED THAT DAY.
TO ALL WHO ARE DRY AND CALLED BARREN
TO ALL WHO FEEL ABANDONED AND CURSED
FORGET NOT THE TENDERNESS OF HANNAH
SEEK ME WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART AND STRENGTH
AND YOU WILL FIND ME THIS DAY.
1 Samuel 2:2-3
2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.
yes, it was 0223 when I was awakened by Mick Jagger....so I guess this is for all on MOTHER'S DAY. As Mick said...."you can't always get what you want, girl....'' but ABBA enjoys giving to the DAUGHTER of HIS PEOPLE what she asks for when her heart is broken and open. HE has this thing about ''broken vessels''. HE also has this
thing about filling you up so HE CAN POUR YOU OUT.
as for me and the Duke riding through the hot desert sands.....with Roy and the boys....singing Lennon and McCartney.....it makes a whole lot of sense.....if you can get radically weird and let GOD have HIS WAY.....
but I don't think I can handle all the ramifications, let alone share them today....
selah
old dog
Enter
In
by
Bob Neumann
Also
called dark sayings
Children,
Believe ME With All Your Hearts when I SAY; I WILL
BE EXALTED AMONG THE NATIONS. I WILL BE EXALTED AMONG THE PEOPLES. It is good if you believe it, better if you do it.
there
are so many believers yet so few 'doers' among you.
And
what, MY children, am I speaking of? MY WORD. NOT
PART....ALL.
You
like MY "BEHOLDS", but not MY "WOES''. Why? Little
children
have many likes and dislikes that originate in the
child's
judgement. Do you really trust that Eternity is
balanced
on your childish ways? Then you must seek MY WAYS
and
not your own. Put aside your pet interpretations of
reality.
Your philosophies, theologies and theories created
to
separate yourselves from your brothers and sisters. Put
them
aside and seek out MY WAYS and MY WISDOM. And within
the
totality of MY WORD is all WISDOM. Within the Fullness
of
MY SON , MY SPIRIT has breathed all into you. All has
been
given to you if you choose that which is TRUTH.
Are
you that much unlike Solomon? He built MY Temple out of
the
treasures his father David had stored. He followed the
plans
and stayed true to the blueprint he was given. But he
also
built his own palace and a palace for one of his wives,
Pharaoh's
daughter. He also burned incense on the HIGH
PLACES.
It was not because of his 'righteousness' that I
spoke
to him in the "NIGHT SEASON". It was because of MY
COVENANT
PROMISES to MY SERVANT, his father David. I called
out
to him and he answered ME. And when I offered to give
him
his hearts desire he chose service to ME by choosing MY
KINGDOM
and MY PEOPLE first. So by seeking MY KINGDOM first
I
gave him POWER, WEALTH, and WISDOM. But he did not repent
so
WISDOM served HIM little it seems. LEARN FROM THIS
LESSON.
Are
you any different? IS there not ONE in whom a much
GREATER
COVENANT is established? WAS THERE A MORE FAITHFUL
SERVANT
OR OBEDIENT SON THAN MY ONLY BEGOTTEN, MY LAMB WHO WAS WITHOUT SPOT OR STAIN.
You ask for Wealth, Power, and Wisdom all the time; but did you choose MY
KINGDOM over
everything
else. Did MY SON not show you MY WAY and example
MY
KINGDOM for you? DID HE NOT TEACH YOU; "SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD
AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS...". I know you have children, but haven't you
figured out that there is a profound difference between 'saying it' and
'seeking it'. But you still expect the 'desires of your heart'. That is what
you have been taught over and over, isn't it. SO what
is
wrong? Are you standing on the TRUTH, MY WORD? OR are
standing
on something else and do not know it yet. SOMETHING
LESS.....
If
I show you the TRUTH, would you receive it? If I spoke of
GREAT
and MIGHTY THINGS that are to come; would you believe
them?
I HAVE.
You
see MY DESIRE toward you has been always for good and
not
evil. MY DESIRE is that none should perish, but it has
always
been up to you to decide. I have given you ALL, and I
continue
to send MY Servants to remind you of what I HAVE
SAID.
For There Is Nothing New Under the SUN. Just
misplaced,
ignored, or buried.
To
your fathers I have spoken in "DARK SAYINGS", MY SON
taught
in parables, and MY SPIRIT in prophecies, dreams, and
visions.
YOU WERE GIVEN GREAT WEALTH AND A PROFOUND
BLUEPRINT
to build with. Nothing has been hidden from those
who
seek MY RIGHTEOUSNESS. You look for MY VOICE when you
should
be listening. Still you want to "see", to be
entertained
by "signs and wonders". So when they say they
got
"it" over there....you go out to the desert to see. Then
you
hear 'rumors' about the upper room you hurry there. You
are
blown about by every breeze of the supernatural. HOW
WOULD
YOU KNOW EVEN IF IT WAS ME, if you won't listen? SO
MANY
THINGS DECEIVE YOU.
I
AM A GOD THAT CAN SPEAK OUT OF THE WHIRLWIND. I AM A GOD
THAT
CAN SPEAK OUT OF THE FIRE. I CAN SPEAK TO YOU FROM THE
MOUNTAINTOP
OR FROM THE DEEPEST PIT THAT YOU HAVE FALLEN
INTO.
I AM YOUR GOD AND YOU MUST HAVE NO OTHER. HOW I CHOOSE
TO
SPEAK TO YOU IS MINE TO CHOOSE.
CHILDREN,
I CHOOSE TO SPEAK TO YOU IN THAT STILL...SWEET
...VOICE
THAT ELIJAH HEARD. THE VOICE THAT MY SERVANTS HAVE
ALWAYS
LISTENED TO. FOR YOU SEE THE SERVANTS THAT PLEASE ME
ARE
THOSE WHO SET THEIR HEARTS ON ME AND FOUND THEIR
RIGHTEOUSNESS.
AND THEIR SPIRITS CALLED OUT TO ME STEADFAST
IN
OBEDIENCE IN THE FACE OF DEATH. IT IS WRITTEN..."AS DEEP
CALLS
TO DEEP''. The RIVER grows continually deeper as it
grows
wider. TO SEEK ME is to go out into the DEEPEST WATERS
and
cast yourselves into ME. The DEEPER you ENTER ME the
DARKER
AND COLDER the WATER gets.
But
you say "DARKER", "COLDER"...that can't be GOD ! That is
because
you have limited ME in your eyes and cut yourself
off
from ME. That is why I call out to you now. If you will
not
learn of ME then learn from your mistakes. Accept the
fact
that there are things wrong in your life. That I offer
much
more than what you have settled for. Trust not your
emotions
and lean not on your own wisdom and understanding.
BE
STILL, AND LISTEN.
So
much of what you have received is not MY WHOLE COUNCIL.
Too
many of you miss the obvious. Yet too many of you who
have
raised questions to those who have taken charge over
you
have been "beaten down''. They have told you "never
question
GOD". And defend themselves with the words "Touch
not
the LORD'S anointed". Really? Were not all MY SERVANTS
TOUCHED?
Beaten, chained, mocked, spat upon, and murdered?
Where
is their truth? their anointing? DID NOT MY SON SAY TO
LET
THE CHILDREN COME UNTO ME
AGAIN
I SAY... LET MY CHILDREN COME TO ME. BRING ME YOUR
QUESTIONS,
YOUR PAINS, YOUR BURDENS, YOUR FEARS AND I WILL
BE
YOUR FATHER. I WILL NOT TURN AWAY ANY WHO SET THEIR
HEARTS
ON ME. LOOK FOR ME IN THE WORD. LOOK FOR ME IN YOUR
CLOSETS.
CALL OUT TO ME AND I WILL HEAR YOU AND I WILL
ANSWER
YOU.
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Son,
tell MY Children that MY SWORD has two edges. It cuts
on
both sides. It is MY WORD and it is a tool meant to cut
and
to kill. And what do you do armed with MY SWORD and
wearing
MY ARMOR? You pray. You withstand the attack of the
enemy,
and pray for one another. You shield yourself in
FAITH
from the fiery darts, and intercede for your brethren.
With
the helmet of SALVATION and the belt of TRUTH the
enemy's
lies cannot hold you in the bondage of deception.
And
it is MY RIGHTEOUSNESS that protects your heart. That is
why
you can be concerned for others ahead of your self....
And
that is MY MARK on your forehead.
I
gave you a sword that has two edges. MY WORD is LOGOS and
RHEMA.
Ignore one over the other and the blade is broken.
Limit
MY WORD in any way and it shatters.
Oh
MY CHILDREN, you sing so many songs about "MY ARMY"
marching
in joy and victory, defeating and binding the
enemy.
You sing with such energy and passion about storming
camps,
running at cities, jumping over walls and taking back
all
what was stolen. So bold and so strong are you that you
never
seem to notice those in your ranks and the condition
they
are in. MY WORD said to stand because you battle
not....against
flesh and blood. MY ARMOR is for you to
withstand
the attacks meant to destroy MY WORD in you. And
those
attacks come to all who are in covenant with ME. The
battle
is by MY WORD over you, in MY WORD planted in you. AS
THE
BATTLE IS MINE, SO IS THE VICTORY. The battles you
presently
"fight" are as nothing when compared to what your
brethren
in the nations where the enemy's deep darkness
rules.
So
many songs you label 'christian' never mention ME in any
way.
And many of these songs do not stand well against MY
WORD.
Have any of you noticed the lack of MY MOST HOLY
SPIRIT
in much of what you hear and see on so called
"christian"
radio, music, and television? And in much of
what
you call worship? Worship is not based on numbers. Nor
can
you discern it in the decibels of sound. It can not be
measured
by levels of emotion or degrees of perspiration.
THE
DAY has come when the TRUE BELIEVER will not worship ME
on
any Mountain, but in the earthen vessel that I have
chosen
to TABERNACLE with and in. Those of mine who have
built
as I have directed them with the PUREST GOLD, SILVER,
and
PRECIOUS STONES that I offered you have prepared for ME
palaces
for MY HABITATION. For you must worship ME in MY
SPIRIT
and in MY TRUTH. You must worship ME without the
fanfare
of the flesh, without the gimmicks of your world.
You
must worship ME FROM A HEART MADE PURE AND HOLY AS I AM
HOLY.
To accomplish all this, like your brethren in SMYRNA,
you
will soon be tested and proven in the FIRE of
AFFLICTION.
Once
again I call out to stand up in the POWER of MY WORD
and
depart from all your Egypts and Babylons. You who are
lukewarm,
once you were hot. You knew the intensity and
emotion
of the Flames of FIRST LOVE. But you have allowed
yourselves
to cool down in your self assurance trusting in
what
you have perceived as wealth, power, and righteousness.
But
so little WISDOM....
MY
WORD says that MY wish is that you were hot or cold. Your
comfortable
luke warmness gives ME no pleasure. I am
sickened
by your rebellious complacency. It offends ME and I
can
no longer tolerate you in MY PRESENCE.
You
sing songs of thanksgiving rarely because you take not
what
you need from ME. MY SPIRIT BREATHS inspiration into
the
hearts and minds of MY WORSHIPPERS. But you take what
pleases
you and forget the greater blessings. You sing "GIVE
THANKS''
with a grateful heart for what I have done in your
lives.
WHEN BREATHED into you it had two verses. With great
joy
you sing of how the poor are made rich and the weak made
strong.
But why will you not sing of the sick made whole or
the
bound set free. Are these your true priorities? To heal
and
restore are but part of MY NAME and MY DESIRE for you,
but
you prefer wealth and power over fullness in ME. SO YOU
WALK
DISEASED IN SPIRIT, BOUND IN SIN PREFERRING the riches
and
the kingdoms of this world. Children, how foolish!
ENTER
MY BAPTISM OF FIRE , AND DO NOT LEAVE IT. Once you
burn
with passion for ME you indeed will be hot and
appealing
to ME. Dive into the Depths of MY SPIRIT; into the
DARKNESS
that surrounds ME. Into the CLOUDS and SMOKE that
obscure
MY GLORY from the eyes of this world. In the Depths
of
MY PRESENCE you will be as cold to the world as you are
as
passionate for ME. Like steel from the furnace is plunged
into
water, so will MY STRENGTH be in you. MY FIRE SHAPES
AND
PURIFIES. MY LIVING WATER HARDENS AND REFRESHES. Those
who
enter ME I will receive and i will shape according to MY
PLEASURE
and according to MY PURPOSE.
HOLY INDIGNATION verses THE AMERICAN RELIGIOUS BANDWAGON.
(((SUBTITLE))) (separating ABBA'S HEART from the pseudo-spiritual garbage of AMERICAN APOSTASY)
In the last seventy-two hours I have been barraged by well meaning ''calls-to-arms" by many well meaning people. I suppose they all meant to raise the masses of American
Churchianity in Holy Indignation against the ''strongholds''. Presently there are three hot beds of aggravated religiosity being raised for my/our actions.
First is a flippant response to a complaint by an ABC employee. On ABC there is a program called THE PRACTICE, and they supposedly had a program where ''homosexuality'' was either promoted/defended. Someone wrote an email to
complain, and was treated ''poorly''. That is what I can figure out from the whole dust cloud so far.... What exactly they expect me to do, I am unsure....
Second is a commercial by Anheiser Busch where a gay couple are drinking. The Company has set up 1-800 #'s to weigh American sentiments.... So I am to call and vote....
Third is the TIME magazine pole on the person of the century.....Adolph Hitler and Elvis are presently in the thick of it.... Again I am to call and vote.....
To think that any or all three are of such earth shaking importance that so many have reached out to me. To instill some level of indignation and to bring forth an emotional
outburst for the GLORY of GOD?
GIVE THE DOG A BREAK!!!!
the world is at the brink of war on seven different fronts.... our Christian brothers and sisters are being murdered on a scale unseen for 1600 years in places the average American does not know exists. judgment is upon America and all I see is trivial pursuit in the ranks of the ''remnant''.
sorry SAINTS, but ABBA has spoken correction and the kids are priding themselves at ''bein' bad''....being a force to recognize in the ''real'' world. flexing Christian clout'
and make the world take notice........
Do you really think MELEK Y'SHUA is concerned about a TIME Magazine ''popularity pole''? obviously a lot of Americans do!!!! it's a hell of a lot easier than picking up a cross
and following.....
I've been busy here in south Florida.....the attacks against my pastor and our congregation have been devastating. I still get 10-15 posts a day from people in need of ''ministry'' .....everyday a new one or two.
plus I hear and obey.....
SOOOOOO....I do not spend a lot of time watching beer commercials..... nor do I spend any money for Anheiser Busch products. So there is no need for me to threaten boycotting Bud and Bud Light as a positive political action. Give Mr. Busch credit for creating a Christian 1-800#'' to register public sentiment. Frankly I can see why they are uncertain where the chips may fall here. Many Christian denominations are accepting alternative lifestyles. Many Christians buy their product regularly..... How do they
know where the ''LIGHT'' shines?
but is counting anonymous calls the way to witness for our LORD?
NOW, I do not watch too much TV....there is little there that is uplifting or gratifying. So I missed the whole point of contention with ABC........
NOW, I wonder if all these "Christians have anything better to do than watch commercial TV? NOW, if you really have to watch that ''stuff'' and then feel ''self-righteous enough to both complain and be upset at the response, you need to get right before GOD and read HIS WORD.
HIS WORD says anyone who is one with JESUS will be hated by the world. I think HE used words like ''reviled'', ''persecuted'', ''suffer'' to describe what it would be like.
How come we got so many ''uppity'' brethren out there?
The CHURCH is portraying itself as a bunch of thin skinned 'cry babies' who want to contend for the faith by dialing telephone #'s..... The Media paints us as a bunch of over
emotional fanatics chained to agendas that make little sense to the world at large. They see us as eager to force our ideas/ideals on them. After several years of listening to
"Christian Activists" I have to acknowledge the Media is correct in much of their assessment. Which makes me wonder where we left THE WORD and created something else. THE WORD CALLS IT ABOMINATION..... doing what is right in our own
eyes.
Now if someone can tell me how a TIMES Magazine Pole, a TV Program protest, and the removal of a beer commercial will be ''salt and light'' to the world, and make ''disciples''; I
really would love to know.
selah old dog
Today according to President Clinton marks the twentieth day of the NATO Attempt to stop violence by using violence.
Yesterday a ''passenger train'' was hit during a bombing raid. NATO acknowledges a mistake was made. Serbia cries foul and produces alligator tears as satellite images in Kosovo may have found the first of many ''mass graves'' of people executed by Serbians. More than once I have heard the terms ''MORAL IMPERATIVE''....and ''MORAL HIGHGROUND'' by advocates of NATO actions. The short history of Serbian Statehood
in the 20th century has been kind enough to put all these terms into our vocabulary....Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, 'ethnic cleansing'.... The last ten years proves that the present Serbian Government has no compunction at either killing opposition, silencing internal critics, or exterminating people that are not the 'right kind'. Regrettably
many see this war between Serbia and NATO as a dispute based on human morality, the protection of an ''ethnic people''. In this case Albanian Moslems. The problem is not humanitarian as most would believe. It is a two faceted issue. First it is economic, and this then takes it into the realm of political power. Kosovo is an economic issue, first and foremost. The European Union Members have for years struggled to absorb the earlier waves of ex-citizens of the old Yugoslavia. Germany alone had to deport many Bosnians over a year ago because they placed a drain on the German Economy.
Likewise the Bosnians competed with other foreigners for jobs that many Germans felt belong to Germans. Foreign nationals have increased the unemployment roles throughout the EU. Now 1.6 million ''ethnic Albanians'' have been brutally torn from their homes, systematically robbed and looted, and dumped on the European doorstep. In reality SERBIA declared unconditional war on the budding economy of the EU.Few commentators would put it so bluntly, but that is what has happened.
In retaliation, the EU....in the form of NATO....has bombed Serbia. Serbian atrocities justify some form of action so say our leaders. Yet whenever the on going atrocities
in the Sudan, Ethiopia and Etraria, Rwanda, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Kashmir and Chechnya are mentioned the discussion is shelved, or the subject is changed. The simple
reason is money. None of these situations 'fit' the "MORAL IMPERATIVE'' quite right.
What we are seeing is the bankruptcy of MODERN HUMANISM. The abuse of people and their personal rights is a wonderful area of discussion. To point out the lack of
''rights'' or the curtailing of them by government edict has been the duty of the United Nations, and groups like AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL. Repeatedly they listed nations that abused their citizenry. Yet this last year many countries were not sighted for "HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS''. China and Cuba who are perennial members of this listing were not mentioned. Obviously Humanism and Morality took a back seat to
Economic pressure in the case of China. As for Cuba, it's anyone's guess. Maybe baseball has redeeming social value after all. If "MORAL HIGHGROUND'' is sufficient justification to bomb Serbian targets, to 'limit' targets for "humanitarian'' reasons seems equally justifiable. The much used term "collateral damage'' is a favorite of the basic
humanitarian politician''. To create an ethically ''clean'' war is an impulse that can not be denied. It was used in Iraq, and now in the Balkans by military and civilian spokesmen alike. The concept of keeping the ''evils of war'' away from the innocent civilians is Humanism at it's finest. It is man's ultimate goal achieved in this era. Making ''war'' clean, efficient, and acceptable to all age groups. Only it does not work, will not work. It only puts pain and terror out of sight, and ignores suffering
for the few as the many sit back and watch it on CNN. Presently a secondary war has begun in the media. It is the beast called ''sympathy''. The Serbian's play it in
order to soften the ''heart'' of the creature called ''public opinion''. At the same time media highlights the plight of the Kosovars. Simple arithmatic will show 1000 broken windows in Belgrade because of the concussion of NATO ordinance does not equal 300,000 displaced people in the Albanian and Macedonian countryside. But it is the only hand Serbia can play so expect each card to be played one at a time. After all this is said and done the real issue of this war is power. The European Union is a player in the game
of WORLD DOMINATION. At least it is using Kosovo as the spring board to the upper levels of the game. If you remember the first few days of the arial attack the Serbian
allegations were America and Clinton causing this war. It took three days for the American General who presently commands all NATO forces to vanish. Since that time it has been EU in front of the cameras. The EU has to defend itself on all fronts. Political, military, and economic are portrayed in the battle over Kosovo. If the EU wishes to face on even footing the present world powers; Russia, China, the Islamic Union; it can not allow Serbian incursion and aggression to dictate European Policy. That is why Serbia is being bombed. Yet because the EU wishes to appear civilized and truly humanitarian
it is limiting it's attacks hoping the Serbian leadership will awaken and realize it can not win. Like the 'victory' in Iraq; this strategy is self-defeating. For years American scholars have debated the issue of a ''just war''. Our universities have approached the issue soundly from the airy heights of HUMANISM, and have come up with nothing that can rationalize what to do with a Hitler or an Idi Amen or even a Sadam Hussein. True
pacifists say that the right thing is peace at all costs. Nevil Chamberlain was broken hearted that Hitler lied to him. In order to appease the BEAST he fed nations to the Nazi monster. It did not work for two reasons. First, force only respects and backs down when a stronger threat is perceived. Second is that there is an underlying dimension that motivates all others. This dimension is not a physical reality, but a spiritual one. For this
reason the modern media has little regard for the possibility.Yet the Balkans has been a hot bed of human insanity and spiritual conflict for centuries. Macedonia was the power base for the Prophet Daniel's ''he goat'', the Prince of Grecia. It was the battle ground between Christendom and Islam. It was part of the bartering between Stalin and Churchill at the end of WWII. But now it is the fulcrum that the Revised Roman Empire will pivot itself into THE END TIMES. Right now Serbia has negotiated a pact creating a Slavic Union with Russia and Belarus. It threatens NATO's grab for domination of Europe. Russia with it's ties to the Islamic States of the old USSR, and treaties to all the
nations around Israel still is a player. Russia is an interesting conundrum. It is utterly bankrupt and starving, it's economy and political beaurocracy completely corrupt. That is
if you listen to the ''stories'' that come from Russia to Western Media. In reality no major Soviet factory has yet to close down. The Soviet munitions factories produce more
than they did five years ago. Each month Russian youth are conscripted and sent to mandatory military service. Needless to say the Russian Armed Forces have not shrunk in size since Peristroyka and Glasnost were ''reintroduced''. In the next few weeks anything is possible. Yet in the end one force will walk away with all the marbles. Will
it be NATO/EU as the Revived Roman Empire....or a Slavic Union with Islamic Allies as GOG/MAGOG. At this point no Islamic Nation anywhere has even paid lip service to the Kosovars in need. That is an erie silence in itself. This week Israel began sending food and medical assistance to Macedonia. Yet not one petro dollar has been offered by the wealthy Islamic Gulf States to help fellow Moslems. Strange spirits behind all this. Very strange in deed.
To whomever may read this and those that went before and to the two or three yet to follow.
Visions and dreams have been the means by which the GOD of ABRAHAM, ISAAC, and JACOB has spoken to mankind. In them HE uses images and speaks through
them in specific patterns. Parables gave us specific metaphors and similes by which we could find comprehension and understanding of what has been revealed.
Many so called Christians would easily dismiss a good 50% of what fits as prophetic because it does not ''uplift them". The GOD of the Bible was never focused on slick and cute. The fluff and stuff that tickled ears. But the American Church is. It wants to be
entertained and is looking for an ''experience''. What i am about to ''share'' is of ''experiences'' none would wish to encounter.
SELAH.
this begins exactly where highways and byways ended. all i can say is i was one of three picked out of a group of 25. as ordered we shucked off our back packs and left our weapons behind. and began to follow THE KING out of ''Goshen".
only this time we were not on a road but moving cross-country. it took a few minutes to realize we were like Dorothy and TOTO....no longer in Kansas.
it was like in one of the thunders we jumped from place to place, from time to time. i lost count how often we stopped to ''witness'' what was to take place. THE KING has a reason for all this. Few will accept it and that concerns me. But I'll get over it. What i am afraid i will not get over is what i saw........
as i try to put this out i do not know how graphic i can get. many of my brothers and sisters offend easily and while that is not my intent, it often is the outcome. so i will try not to add my emotional spin to what was seen. i can not give them in the exact order
and describe each and every event. i wished i did not have to do any of this.
the first scene was like walking into a sauna. the air was thick and stank. it was incredibly hot. slowly we made our way to a small clearing. there was a large ''hut'' with a corrugated roof and wood sides. in it were a group of people in obvious ''worship''. i
watched as from out of the jungle men came out and surrounded the building. maybe a hundred or more. They raised a shout and i heard the words ''Allah Akbar"
and forced the doors to this small church closed and wedged them shut. from every side torches were lit and curses were thrown. then on all sides men came with buckets and flung them against the building. This happened over and over. each time screams of terror of women and children were heard. after awhile the torches were thrown. and the screams came and died away all too slowly.
(it's taking to long to type this so I'll cut out as much as i can, we just don't have the time so forgive misspellings and typos)
next we were in a colder bleaker place. it was a street with what looked like adobe huts. a young man came out of one hut and stood at it's door. he began shouting and quickly drew a crowd. in a few minutes he went into the hut and pulled out a young woman dressed in a dress that went down to her feet. he threw her into the street and resumed shouting. after awhile others in the crowd began shouting and throwing things at the girl. finally the young man pulled a curved knife and brandished it before the crowd as it
cheered. after several more shouts he stopped and i watched the girl(?) struggle and scream. then he began to slash at her face and arms. after awhile it all ended and the crowd walked away.
next we were in a small room where a couple were sleeping suddenly the door burst open and men in some kind of uniform broke in and subdued the couple. through the door walked a man of senior rank with what looked like a newspaper in his hand. he shouted at the man and flung the newspaper in his face. by this time the intruders had gathered the children into the room. the senior officer pulled an automatic pistol and waved it in front of the man being held down. at this point the oldest child, a boy maybe 7 or 8 made a run
at the officer and was shot at.. point blank...the mother broke loose from her restrainer and got pistol whipped across the face. the officer turned back to the boy and fired 4-5 more times into the body. At this point they dragged the man away leaving the women
weeping on the floor with her three smaller children and her eldest son. i could hear her shout in Spanish JESUS....MOTHER OF GOD.....and just plain GOD over and over.
next we were in a clear green area....behind us was a rice paddy. several trucks without lights stormed into the common area and troops spilled out and ran to the "houses". again there was an officer in charge and he waited quietly as the people of the village were
gathered. finally the officer began to speak and it seemed as if he was looking for someone/something. But was getting nowhere. he stopped and turned to the troops that now pointed their weapons at the crowd. again the officer spoke, and again no response. finally he signaled and three soldiers entered the crowd and pulled out three girls/young women. We watched as the officer paced back and forth gesturing at the girls. when nothing happened in the crowd he reached out to the smallest girl of the three and tore the front of her shirt off. now the girls were weeping and so were the villagers. finally one small man stepped forward. a few words were passed and then the man went quiet. they tied him in a kneeling position facing the girls and the villagers. here the officer again spoke to the villagers and several people separated from the crowd. then they began to torture the man but he kept silent. next they began to torture and rape the three girls and the females of this man's family. the children they hacked to death with machetes. as the villagers watched and wept the man stayed silent. at the end the officer signaled to his solders who shot the raped women and girls then the man.
once we came to another village in some other land with hills all around. again soldiers came in trucks and questions were asked and again no answer came. It did not seem anyone specific was being looked for. several young women were pulled from the crowd and thrown into a truck. and without warning the whole village was machine gunned and they riddled the bodies till their ammo ran out. as the trucks pulled out i heard the laughter of the soldiers and the screams from the girls. in one place it looked like a major city. Again uniformed men had a prisoner tied and beaten. People lined the street as they beat and mocked the man. I watched as they put a car tire over his head, dowsed
it with gasoline and set it afire. it was a slow way to die.....................
there were many more.......too many...........and through it we were silent. i was sick in body, and in spirit.
eventually all four of us stood in that place beyond time called the second heaven. here THE KING stood in that brown traveling robe and addressed us.
"WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN HAS ALREADY BEEN, WHAT YOU WILL NOW SEE WILL SHORTLY BEGIN TO TAKE PLACE. YOUR PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED BY THESE THREE...." with that three figures stood before us....Mr cheap suit, the lady
from the committee, and an old 'codger' that was from the ''church'' that had been in ruin. "BECAUSE OF THESE, MANY ARE DECEIVED OF WHAT CAN AND SHALL HAPPEN. IN SPITE OF MANY WARNINGS FEW STUDY TO UNDERSTAND. THEY LEAN ON MAN AND DO NOT STAND ON MY WORD. DID I NOT
SAY, PRECIOUS IN MY SIGHT IS THE DEATH OF MY SAINTS?'' "MANY SAINTS HAVE PAID THE PRICE OF FOLLOWING AND BELIEVING. AMERICA WAS NEVER GIVEN AN EXEMPTION." "TRULY I WILL BE WITH THEM WHO ARE MINE. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER I KNOW THEM AND THEY KNOW ME. IT IS A TWO EDGED SWORD. THE COIN HAS TWO SIDES.''
with that we began to WALK THE NIGHT that now begins in North America. i do not have the courage right now to give any details. nor any names. nor places. but i
saw many rapes, murders, and brutalities........too many. i watched homes invaded, churches surrounded and either machine gunned or rounded up for ''cattle cars''. i watched as restaurants and high schools were surrounded and women were separated and taken away. I saw a day care center burned to the ground. i saw tanks on street corners and soldiers with many different uniforms and many languages.
in my spirit i have known for a long time time had run out.
now the waiting is almost over
selah
dog
Bob Neumann
Bill, in the last few weeks I have gotten a number of posts from brothers and sisters that read your site and have been praying for me. They have been a great blessing. I just got off the phone with a dear brother from half way across the world. He blessed me
greatly and while talking THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT kept hitting me with short vivid images. Let me be honest, I had grown despondent as THE MOST HIGH spoke dire warnings and I saw nothing happen within the 'church'. Each time I dared to be
obedient and write and post the THUNDERS as they came my family paid the price one way or another. Frankly I got tired of being the target all the time.
I also was tired of hearing the so called 'prophets' continue to repeat the words of PEACE, PROSPERITY, and PERPETUAL BLESSING when I hear the MOST HOLY SPIRIT weeping. On one hand I have the LAMB saying HE'S HAD ENOUGH....and the prophets of Jericho say ''ain't we blessed!''. Funny how they thought a ''waterless'' and ''barren'' land was pleasant. Each time I wanted to shout at one of these cutsie ''words'' I got the chain jerked and the simple command whispered "BE STILL''.
So I got stilled.....choke chains will do that to you. ABBA had been telling me and anyone with ears to listen to ''BE STILL". If HE has something to say HE will tell us what to say, how to say it, and when to say it. So I spoke when ordered, wrote when
ordered. But for the most part took care of business. Got my house in order. Basically finished the foundation that will be Goshen in South Florida. I know others are doing the same scattered across the world, but few are interacting here. SELAH.
Funny word, SELAH. Like most Hebrew words it has two meanings. First it means to stop, ponder, meditate. The Second is in reference to a mountain fortress. That's why ABBA has been shushing those who hear HIM. HE wants us to be TOWERS.
FORTIFIED INSTILLATIONS in a foreign land...a hostile environment. The why is simple. So we would not get caught up in the distractions and the deceptions. The church is still plowing along going over the same ground over and over. TOO BAD THEY PLANT LITTLE SEED. The ''church'' is still planning events and staging efforts based upon their agendas. Too many people running around and wearing themselves completely out with minimal harvest. But you will always have someone defend their endeavors by saying "if but one soul is saved!''. Or better yet, "you can't put a price tag on a soul". True, but THE WORD says all servants will be accountable for their use of THE MASTER'S TALENT(S). Poor stewardship is a bad excuse for being tossed out into utter darkness.
Yesterday I received a WORD from Sr. Marsha Burns that ABBA used to tell me "I TOLD YOU SO"....
SMALL STRAWS IN A SOFT WIND
Words from the Lord to Marsha Burns:
July 3, 1999: Be very still. I want You to hear My voice very clearly, and you cannot if you aren't still. I am bringing a course correction to those of you who have gotten off track. I am bringing you back to the center of My will. Your recent distractions have taken you out of the flow of My Spirit, and it is time for you to awaken, hear My voice, and come back to a place of greater anointing. Don't get into despair over your failure, for I will cause even this to be a place of victory. Weeping may endure for a night, but joy comes in the morning.
solid word in itself.... but ABBA SAID: BEING STILL WHEN I CALL YOU TO IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN MY ASKING WHETHER YOU WILL OBEY, CHILDREN. I DO NOT ASK SERVANTS TO OBEY, CHILDREN. I COMMAND AND MY WORD IS DONE. IF NOT OUT OF LOVE, IT IS DONE OUT OF FEAR. MY CHILDREN HAVE CHOSEN WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD OBEY IN SUCH A LITTLE THING. MOST CHOSE WRONG THEY WERE GIVEN A TIME TO BE STILL AND TO REST. I HAD A PURPOSE FOR IT. THOSE THAT HAVE
OBEYED ARE READY TO PROCEED. THOSE THAT DID NOT WILL BE GIVEN CORRECTION AND I WILL WATCH WHO WILL PICK UP THEIR CROSSES AGAIN, AND WHO WILL NOT. IN THIS TIME I HAVE SEPARATED MY SERVANTS FROM MY SHEEP. I HAVE ALSO SEPARATED MY CHILDREN FROM MY SERVANTS. I WILL HAVE A DISCIPLINED HOUSEHOLD. ALL THINGS IN ORDER AND IN PLACE. BUT IT WILL BE MY ORDER AND MY PURPOSE.
so Bill....in obedience I break my silence. imagine a Clydesdale in harness..... I get to move again. I am sending this as ordered to you and Bill and Marsha Burns.
be blessed.
old dog
May 3, 1999
For long many have cried "PEACE, PEACE'' and have spoken of a harvest yet to come. Only they served with eloquent speech as season came and season passed. As the trumpet of Judgment sounds no longer will idle words be spoken, no longer will
distraction and diversion rule in the camp of the Nicolaitans. For all servants and those held inside the camp as bondservants shall the SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD be poured
out upon. Upon the lowest to the highest WILL THE WORD OF GOD BE MANIFEST. For young and old, male and female, shall see dreams upon their beds. They shall walk through the Valley of Vision. The will proclaim the ORACLES OF GOD with stammering lips, with faltering language, and an utter lack of guile.
FOR I HAVE CALLED THEM TO TAKE THEIR INSTRUMENTS OF PLANTING AND THEIR TOOLS OF HARVEST TO THE FORGE OF GOD. IN MY PURE FIRE WILL THE WEAPONS OF THE FINAL WAR BE SHAPED AND TEMPERED.
FOR WHEN THE FINAL HARVEST COMES IN THE VALLEY OF DECISION AN UNKNOWN ARMY SHALL ARISE IN MY NAME AND CLAIM A HARVEST UNIMAGINABLE AS I GATHER THE MULTITUDES OF NATIONS, THE MULTITUDES OF PEOPLES TOGETHER FOR MY DAY.
MY DAY CHILDREN IS CLOSE AT HAND. IT IS NOT FAR OFF. FOR I HAVE PROMISED MYSELF THIS AND SPOKEN OF IT LONG AND OFTEN AS MY DAY ONCE AGAIN ESTABLISHED UPON THIS EARTH. A DAY OF DARKNESS, A DAY UNLIKE ANY SEEN SINCE THE CREATION OF THE COSMOS. FOR IT IS TRULY A GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY AS I EXALT MYSELF UPON THE HEATHEN AND GLORIFY MYSELF UPON THE PEOPLES.
FOR THERE IS A REMNANT AMONG YOU IGNORED AND DESPISED. YET WHO STILL STANDS UPON MY WALLS, WHO GIVES ME NO REST TILL ONCE AGAIN THE WORDS HEPHZIBAH AND BEULAH COME FROM MY LIPS. THEY ARE THE CROWN IN MY HAND FOR THEY HOLD THE ENEMY PRESENTLY AT THE GATE.
THEY DO NOT DEFILE THEMSELVES AT THE TABLES OF THE UNGODLY. THEY DO NOT RUN AFTER EVERY LIE AND DECEPTION. THEY HOLD FAST UPON MY WORD AND STAND IN MY NAME.
THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP AT MY FOOTSTOOL, WHOSE LIPS ARE CLEANSED BY THE COALS FROM MY HOLY FIRE. LISTEN TO THEIR WORDS AND BELIEVE MY SERVANTS EVEN NOW AS I BLOW MY TRUMPETS.
selah....hine hu ba...
by Bob Neumann
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:It is said that all things occur for a reason. Add to :that the concept of Divine Timing and we have Two :pillars on which the Kingdom is built. We call them :Purpose and Season. Usually we hear Time and Season :preached and taught because the direct image of
:''Immediacy'' is placed upon us. We in our finite :reality when touched by Eternity can only respond in :the form of immediacy. That is why all prophetic :scripture had the sense of ''now''. Jeremiah breathed :it, Isaiah walked in it and named his children
:according to it. So when looking at that which God now :speaks the sense of ''immediacy'' is not hard to see. :Nor should it be hard to accept or comprehend. What
:sometimes is not forthcoming is an awareness of :Purpose.
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:Ecclesiastes was written by a self-proclaimed :''madman''. Ecclesiastes 1:16-18 16 I communed with :mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, :and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have :been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great :experience of wisdom and knowledge. 17 And I gave my :heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I :perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. 18 For
:in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth :knowledge increaseth sorrow. (KJV)
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:Solomon declared he gave his heart to know wisdom. Yet :we know that GOD gave him the wisdom to rule in :rightiousness. That he had but also did he seek out :madness and folly. We need to assume that was :Solomon's idea and not GOD. Interestingly verse 18
:tells us that wisdom brings grief and knowledge is :aligned with sorrow. Seeing that wisdom and knowledge :come through THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT, and that our first
:contact with GOD is to bring us to conviction which :leads to repentance, grief and sorrow are required. :For without true grief and sorrow we are never :repettant and forgiveness and salvation can not be :given. Grace and Mercy are free, but the price is
:exacted.
:Recently i have witnessed a discussion of those who :have heard ''Trumpets'' being blown. Sometimes only in :the Spirit, but sometimes it was discernable to the
:ear. Of course it lead to ''lively'' discussion and :''intense'' fellowship. Of course scriptues flew back :and forth and i was reminded of a ''walk'' i had taken :a few years ago. So i asked the question of the Group, :"What is the purpose of GOD in all these
:manifestations?'' The replies did not answer the :question. And i grieved and sought the LORD. HIS :ANSWER was a classic one liner....''WHICH ARMY IN JOEL:2 ARE YOU IN?''.
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:Interesting question that still has no answer from :amoung the people it was asked. This morning i was :awakened with the same question in my heart. As i :pondered it i had a ''grocery list'' for our Memorial :Day BBQ. And i wept. We forgot, i forgot that the time
:and season has no meaning without the purpose. :Memorials are established so we would not forget. :Scripturally GOD placed ''Memorials'' into the lives :of HIS PEOPLE in order to confront them with HIM, :''lest we forget''.
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:In my home town in rural Illinois we have a memorial :to our ''HONORED DEAD''. All it is is a concrete wall :with a series of plaques. My grandfather and dad were
:part of the American Legion color guard every :Memorial/Armassist Day and Veteran's Day when they :fired their rifles and blew Taps. As a child i knew it :was solemn and not ''fun'' like Fourth of July. I do :not remember how old i was when my Grandpa showed me :the names of men he knew and the ''uncle'' i would :never meet. I do not remember if it was the year :before or after my dad did the same. They never had a :name for what they were trying to do. They did not :have fancy words or explanations. Nor did they tell
:any ''war'' stories. What they imparted was an :awareness of something it has taken most of my life to :define and comprehend. The concepts of Honor and Duty :that they accepted and lived with for a few years :early in their lives stayed with them and they felt
:necessary to pass on. Concepts that were valid then, :and now.
:
:In the late 1980's a plaque was placed that has an :additional seven names. Three i knew. One sat in my :high school home room for 2 years. And all i remember :was a voice that said he was going to be a Marine, :''just like my dad.'' He was.
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:In all our lives we need memorials or we will forget. :I know both my Grandfather's never forgot. While both :were Legion members, only one was active. Seldom did
:the two ever meet to my memory. I was 13 when my Mom's :Dad ''passed'' as they say. I never knew that the two :had known each other long before my parents were :married. It was Grandpa Neumann that told me more :about Grandpa Carroll that day then i ever heard from :my parents. On the coffin where the decorations won so :long ago, and never spoken of. Bits of metal and cloth :that meant nothing to a child, but a great deal to
:those who had walked a similar road. Only when i asked :him right then and there did i learn he too would have :decorations on his casket. And he did.
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:When i was lead to share this i did not expect ABBA to :make me look back into my own life before i can look :ahead. But that is the whole purpose of REMEMBRANCE.
:To look back so we may understand what is to come. In :Ecclesiastes 3 Solomon tells us something about how :our ABBA does things. HE declares times and seasons
:and purposes under heaven for HIS GLORY....and then :declares....
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:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for :ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken :from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before :him.
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:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is :to be hath already been; and God requireth that which :is past.
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:16 And moreover I saw under the sun the place :of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place :of righteousness, that iniquity was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.
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:17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and :the wicked: for there is a time there for every :purpose and for every work.
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:So to look at Joel we must see that it has happened :and will happen again. By knowing what actually :happened we can see what will ''shortly'' take place. :If Joel was written like a modern novel, it would :barely take ten pages and ten minutes to read. Only
:Joel is not a modern novel, but an ancient prophecy. :It is written in layers with much that is missed :today. We find it divided into 3 chapters, but it :itself is divided into stages according to the images :and purposes that THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT is using to
:instruct us.
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:The First chapter begins with GOD declaring to HIS :PEOPLE to take notice and remember. It speaks to the :people of GOD to make a MEMORIAL of what is happening. :GOD explains that the curses the land is under is due :because of the ''servants'' in the land. Verse 14 :brings the first call to the people to repent.
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:Chapter 2 begins with the ''blowing of the trumpet'' :as the Great and Terrible DAY OF THE LORD is at hand. :Obviously the call to repent was not heeded, so we :have a predicament. In the next 11 verses we have a :confrontation. In it we have groups in adversarial :positions. The question GOD asked was ''Which army are :you in?'' must be addressed. So we need to see which :armies are involved.
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:Because we are sounding the SHOFAR in ZION, we know we :are in Jerusalem. We man the walls. We are the :covenant people who built the TEMPLE and are called by
:HIS NAME. We are the chosen. Our heritage is of :Hezekiah, Joash, Solomon, and David. Of Joshua, :Gideon, Samuel and the mighty men of valor.
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:We are the army of GOD, worshipping on ZION, the :anointed and the chosen of GOD.
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:This is the first army.
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:Only Joel 1 says : 5 Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; :and howl, all ye drinkers of wine, because of the new :wine; for it is cut off from your mouth. 6 For a :nation is come up upon my land, strong, and without :number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he
:hath the cheek teeth of a great lion. 7 He hath laid :my vine waste, and barked my fig tree: he hath made it :clean bare, and cast it away; the branches thereof are :made white.
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:Drunkard is a term synonymous with idolatry. THE LORD :says the ''new wine'' is cut off. That a nation will :be raised up to lay waste to the land. Joel 2 carries :out this image.
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:The Second Army has come forth to bring down :unrepentant Zion. Many today see the hypocrisy and :hidden sin within the first army. They know judgement :has been proclaimed. Eagerly many join ranks to :assault "Babylon'' because of the arrogance and
:unrepentance they perceive. They see GOD raise up an :army to bring judgement upon ZION and quickly stand in :their numbers. For this is GOD'S ARMY....
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:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of :horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run. 5 Like the :noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they :leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth :the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array. 6
:Before their face the people shall be much pained: all :faces shall gather blackness. 7 They shall run like :mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they :shall not break their ranks: 8 Neither shall one
:thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be :wounded.
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:The key here is appearance. The First Army is of GOD. :Now a second army is of GOD. BOTH ARE RIGHT. But both :are only to a degree. The first still caries HIS NAME,
:but do not serve HIM or Fear HIS NAME. In spite of the :warnings, they would not repent. The Second Army is of :GOD. GOD SPECIFICALLY is calling it to make war with :the unrepentant. They are HIS TOOL of judgement upon :the land. But is that the army to join? It appears to :be timely....and unstoppable. Isn't that how we want :GOD'S ARMY TO BE?
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:But are we discerning HIS SPIRIT today? Two armies appear to be of GOD. Both claim HIM, and are warring :with each other today.
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:The problem with the first are openly stated by ABBA :in the entire Old Testament. The problem with the :second is it's ''appearance''. It is described ''like :a...'' at every simile. Scripture has two other :similes that parallel it. First is ''like a :flood....''.
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:Isaiah 59:19 19 So shall they fear the name of the :LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of :the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, :the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard :against him. (KJV)
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:Jeremiah 46:8 8 Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his :waters are moved like the rivers; and he saith, I will :go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy the :city and the inhabitants thereof. (KJV) :
:Amos 9:5 5 And the Lord GOD of hosts is he that :toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that :dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly :like a flood; and shall be drowned, as by the flood of :Egypt. (KJV)
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:Behold 3 witnesses, GOD will destroy....using :''Egypt''. Makes even more sense when you understand :how GOD works....
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:Jeremiah 27:6 6 And now have I given all these lands :into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, :my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given :him also to serve him. (KJV)
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:So we have a second Army sent by GOD. The question is :do you want to be in that army? The second simile may :help....1 Peter 5:8
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:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the :devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom :he may devour: (KJV)
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:So this is a time to be sober and discerning. It is :also a time to remember....what is yet to
:come.....maybe a third army, yet unseen... 11 And the :LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his :camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth :his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very :terrible; and who can abide it?
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:Now if it happened before, and GOD says it will happen :again.....the third army also appeared. That is if you :are looking for it. Joel 2:11 says nothing about the :ARMY....but one heck of a lot about who commands it. :So we look to how Babylon fell and the PROPHETIC IMAGE :laid out before us and see it as what is yet to come.
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:So if you want to see THE ARMY COMMANDER YET TO :COME...read Isaiah....
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:28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall :perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, :Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation :shall be laid.
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:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose :right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before :him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open :before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall :not be shut; 2 I will go before thee, and make the
:crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the :gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron: 3
:And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and :hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know :that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the :God of Israel. 4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and :Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy
:name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known :me.
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:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no :God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not :known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the
:sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. :I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7 I form the :light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create :evil: I the LORD do all these things. 8 Drop down, ye :heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down
:righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring :forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up :together; I the LORD have created it. 9 Woe unto him
:that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive :with the potsherds of the earth.
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:Historically we know Cyrus defeated Babylon and ended :the "captivity''. In chaldean "CYRUS'' means :"KING".....Isaiah 44:18 is of a KING YET TO :COME.....it is nice to know who that KING :IS....Revelation 17:14
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:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb :shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King :of kings: and they that are with him are called, and :chosen, and faithful. (KJV)
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THE KING OF KINGS IS THE LAMB OF GOD WHO OVERCOMES.....
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:and we overcome by....THE BLOOD OF THE :LAMB.......which gives us the strength to STAND :against the enemy and speak.....THE WORDS OF OUR :TESTAMONY..... and this removes our fear and allows :us to LOVE NOT OUR LIFE....even unto death. we are the :''called'', the ''chosen'', the ''faithfull'' who :serve the LAMB our KING.
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:So the third army in Joel is.... Revelation 19:11-16
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:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; :and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, :and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12
:His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were :many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man :knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a:vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The :Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven :followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, :white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp :sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and
:he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth :the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty :God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a :name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. (KJV)
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:just one of many who will follow HIM that day.
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:So we have three armies. All can claim that they are :''of GOD''. Yet GOD seems not as happy about how we :are doing today than many say that HE IS. In Matthew :24 JESUS the LAMB says we should not be deceived, over :and over. Today many are deceived and battle :constantly among the brethren over doctrines, :interpretations, and priorities. They believe they are :right and battle accordingly to defend their ''city''. :Likewise there are many who got mauled in the :skirmishes and now oppose the ''city''. So sides were
:picked and the ''war'' began. It started long ago and :still is there today.
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:Us and them with both claiming ""GOD IS ON MY SIDE"". :
:no one wants to ask who is on GOD'S SIDE. seems sort :of trite today, don't it.....
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:NATO bombing in the Balkans.....Israel has a new :government and ISLAM still wants Israel :destroyed....the election changed that in no :way......India and Pakistan getting ready to throw :nukes around.....the Chinese building nukes and :neutron bombs and loading them on delivery systems :''given'' to them.....actually it seems a fair and
:even playground.....everyone hates everyone else and :is preparing for the finale.
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:SO this weekend we are to remember....but what is :worth remembering? If i look back to what was and see :what now is in my own homeland i get sick. "I :REMEMBER...'' is a painful experience when you look :back at what was.....
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:We sent our young men to foreign lands to stop an :aggressor. Both my Grandpa's said it was ''THE WAR TO :END ALL WARS''. They tried. They came back with family
:and friends to rebuild and go on. Only they failed. :Once again did we send our young men and some young :women to meet an attack upon our nation. They called :it ''THE BIG ONE''....and hoped it would be the last. :But they too, failed. No matter how many lives are :lost, battles fought....PEACE only comes when THE LAMB :takes HIS THRONE.
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:As a nation we were once a people that feared GOD and :chose to do right. But that seems long ago. Like :Israel we were blessed and protected by our GOD. And
:like Israel we forgot our GOD and HIS WAYS. HE calls :out and few listen. HE has sent trouble to our land, :but we have not turned as a nation or a people from :our ways. We chose plenty and abundance rather than :faith and provision. So we forgot GOD.....and learned :to enjoy sin. Now we pursue sin and not righteousness.
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:Once someone said of AMERICA that AMERICA was strong :because it is GOOD. Our strength was not economic or :military. It was in our GOD, and HIS MIGHT.
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:so today i cry for what was lost....i pray for mercy :for a people who see not the danger approach. but most :of all i remember the old paths i now walk with my :ABBA.....the path my Dad and my Grandpa's pointed me :to and walked with me on those first steps. for ABBA :to show me a heritage i never appreciated yet in HIS :WAYS explains to me HIS INHERITANCE in 'my' :generations....is humbling. It is nice to be :''called''....better to be ''chosen''.....but unless :HE calls me ''faithful'' nothing mattered...
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:HE IS FAITHFULL....THROUGH ALL GENERATIONS....IN ALL :SITUATIONS.
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:BLESSED BE THE NAME OF OUR LORD.
:
:bob...son of Robert.... son of Joseph.... son of
:Leo....
May 29, 1999
Dear Brothers,
Yesterday I got one of those posts where a simple question was asked. I sent a ''K.I.S.S." post, ''Keep it Short and Simple''. Now after the thoughts of this morning I went
back to reflect on my answer and got a question from ABBA. HE has this ability to make you reassess your position without guilt. There would have been a time where I would
have ''reacted'' with ''what did I do wrong this time?'' ,but I've grown out of that to a degree. It helps when you start walking in multiple levels of HIS SPIRIT and you
find that TRUTH often has depths not easily perceived.
This is one of those ''ouch'' times. The original question is how do you/can you tell if someone is a ''real'' ''brother'' in the LORD. My response was based on the''red letters''....JESUS said ''WHO IS MY BROTHER?....HE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER." I added the ideas of ''judging a tree by it's fruit''. All scriptural and was
firmly on solid foundation. Yet I had been questioning the same myself the last few weeks and been struggling with the issue of being unequally bound. Honestly I ran myself in circles and got myself tromped when I should have kept my mouth shut.
ABBA was trying to make a point and as long as I tried to get it I messed up big time. So I shut everything down and turned everything off. Only to find my wife and son caught
in a set of crosshairs I could not counter. No chance to ''be still'' and ''wait on THE LORD'' when the secular authority threatens action and you have five minutes to
respond. So I fell and took the blows. Now I needed to understand the point ABBA was trying to make. I think I got it, but I will know in time.
I was given this mini-vision of a large antique mirror. It gave a clear full size view as you looked into it. As I stood before "THE MIRROR OF GOD", THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT
explained "THE LAW OF THE KINGDOM SAYS THAT WHICH IS OF GOD IS OF LIGHT, AND NEVER CHANGES. THAT WHICH IS NOT OF GOD IS DARKNESS. DARKNESS, HAVING NO LIGHT HAS NO REFLECTION.''
Immediately I thought of the old Bela Legosi movies and the idea of the ''undead'' casting no reflection. I remembered the line of the Count describing the howling of the wolves as the sound of ''The Children of THE NIGHT", and was cut short. THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT corrected me and said. "DO NOT CONFUSE THE NIGHT AND THE DARKNESS. IT IS A MISTAKE TO CONFUSE THE SEPARATION OF THE TIMES OF THE DAY WITH THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT''.
I had to ponder this. Confusion leads to deception. When we do not perceive things from the position of THE KINGDOM we confuse things in our own minds. If we take as TRUTH that which is not, we are deceived. So the only way to judge whether my thinking is of GOD is to see if it reflects in GOD'S MIRROR. As I came to this thought I once again stood before the mirror. This time it was a distorted image and I stared at myself. "LIGHT WHEN
REFRACTED IS BENT. WHEN THE VESSEL IS LESS THAN PURE IT
REFLECTS THROUGH IT'S IMPURITIES.'' and I grieved and repented....
Now I looked and the mirror showed a ''blurred image''.
Again instruction came.
''THE MIRROR OF GOD REFLECTS THE HEART AND THE SPIRIT, NOT
THE FLESH. WHEN THE HEART IS TROUBLED AND THE SPIRIT IS IN
CONSTERNATION YOU HAVE LOST YOUR FOCUS. MANY OF MINE OWN
HAVE TROUBLE BEING SHARPLY FOCUSED AT ALL TIMES. AS THE
DAY CHANGES AND AS SITUATIONS CHANGE FOCUS MUST CHANGE
ACCORDINGLY''.
So I pondered all this as my reflection skewed and darkened, then focused and brightened. And suddenly I felt a familiar hand on my shoulder and the Mirror turned
incandescent. "WHY ARE YOU TROUBLED, OLD DOG.'' THE MASTER
ASKED.
"Who LORD is my brother, LORD? And why am I alone?''
"WHEN ARE YOU ALONE, DOG?'' I had no real answer for HIS WORD says HE would never leave me or forsake me.
''MY WORD ALSO ASKS....'WHY SO DOWNCAST OH MY SOUL'....IT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND, YET YOU QUESTION. IN SPITE OF WHAT PEOPLE MAY SAY LACK OF FAITH IS NOT SIN. THOSE WHO I HAVE CALLED TO SERVICE ALWAYS STRUGGLE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE STRUGGLE THAT FAITH GROWS AND BEARS MUCH FRUIT. EVEN THE BEST HAVE FALTERED AT TIMES. FALLEN BADLY EVEN. SOME HAVE BEEN AT THE BRINK OF
DESPAIR. BUT MY GRACE IS ALWAYS THERE TO THOSE WHO CRY OUT
IN THEIR PAIN, THEIR FEAR, AND THEIR DOUBT. I'M STILL FAITHFUL AND I KNOW THE HEART. WORDS WILL NOT IMPRESS ME UNLESS THEY MIRROR THE HEART EXACTLY.
''AND I'LL TELL YA DOG, THAT HAPPENS SELDOM. ESPECIALLY IN THOSE 'MEN OF GOD' AND 'WOMEN OF GOD' THAT SEEM TO BE ALL OVER THE PLACE. ABBA HAS THIS TENDER SPOT IN HIS HEART FOR BABIES AND CHILDREN, WHO PRAY IT AS IT IS. NO GAMES....JUST REAL.''
''BEING 'BORN AGAIN' MEANS A WHOLE LOT FROM MY POINT OF
VIEW. TO BE REBORN MEANS THAT THINGS ARE MADE RIGHT. THE
SINNER UNDER CONVICTION IS LAID BARE BEFORE ME. THERE IS
NOTHING TO HIDE AND NO WAY TO EVADE THE REALITY OF SIN. SO
THEIR PRAYER IS PURE FOR THEIR HEART IS MADE NEW''.
''I AM THE MIRROR, AND ALL THAT IS OF ME REFLECTS BACK TO
YOU. WHAT IS NOT OF ME IS A COUNTERFEIT AND WILL NOT STAND
BEFORE ME. THAT IS HOW YOU TELL THE TRUE FROM THE FALSE,
THROUGH THE CLARITY OF WHAT REFLECTS IN ME.''
"THIS CAN BE SIMPLE DOG, OR VERY COMPLEX. DEAL WITH THE SIMPLE NOW. KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHEEP AND GOATS. KNOW ALSO BETWEEN SHEPHERDS AND HIRELINGS. AS FOR TELLING SHEEPDOGS FROM WOLVES....IT DON'T CHANGE....I STILL KNOW MINE AND MINE KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THE ENEMY.''
''MY SHEEP AND MY GOATS ARE MINE. I ALONE JUDGE THEM, SEPARATE THEM. THAT IS NO MAN'S JOB. WARN BOTH MY SHEPHERDS AND THE HIRELINGS. THEIR JOB IS TO STAND WATCH AND TO GUARD MINE AS THEY FEED AND DRINK OF ME. TELL THEM DOG, THEIR ACCOUNTS WILL BE WEIGHED AND THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF MY FLOCK I ALONE JUDGE.''
With that I watched a goat and a sheep, each full grown, stand before THE MIRROR. In THE MIRROR I only saw the sheep.
"IT IS ONLY WHEN THEY ARE GROWN AND COME TO THEIR FULLNESS
WILL I SEPARATE BETWEEN THE TWO. ALL BORN IN MY FLOCK ARE
MINE. SOME CHOOSE TO BE SHEEP, SOME CHOOSE TO BE GOATS.
AND THEN THERE ARE THE GOATS WHO WANT TO BE SHEEP AND THEY
ARE BORN AGAIN.
YOU LIKE THAT ONE DOG! I CREATED THE LION AND THE LAMB. TO
CHANGE AN OLD GOAT INTO A PRECIOUS LAMB IS WHAT I ENJOY
THE MOST BECAUSE ABBA IS PLEASED.''
For a brief moment I thought He would put a shepherd and a hireling before THE MIRROR. HE didn't. I wondered about the ''brother'' and THE MIRROR. Still trying to grasp between the counterfeit and the real. How deception is to be exposed. Then I got this last shot....
''TELL THEM TO JUDGE AS MY WORD REQUIRES. WEIGH EVERYTHING
FIRST BY MY WORD AND THEN BY MY SPIRIT. BY LOGOS YOU WILL
TRIP UP THE FALSE TEACHERS. BY DISCERNMENT OF MY SPIRIT
WILL YOU SNARE THE FALSE ANOINTINGS. BY MY SPIRIT WILL YOU
BATTLE AGAINST THE DARKNESS AS IT ATTEMPTS TO OVERCOVER
YOU.''
So I share this as ordered. And I sure don't have all the answers. Right now I'm going to work on the ''overcover'' thing.
Selah old dog
Dear Meri,
this day i have been flooded with posts about Kosovo. pro/con/and everything in between....
On Tuesday i had a ''mini-vision''.... i saw a simple 3 minute egg timer with more than half the sand already run out. on the base of the timer was the name "KOSOVO''....
and that is it....no WORD from on high.... no great insight in world events....
just the most horrible cold pain in the center of my body and my spirit. there is physical and spiritual aspects to this. as far as i know CNN has not asked THE ANCIENT OF DAYS HIS analysis....so i doubt the media is concerned of the spirits behind this abomination.
but it seem that there is an end in sight.... but what will be cooked up by then i do not know.
old dog
Bob Neumann
Dearest Children of the Father, In the last three days I have been sent numerous posts from numerous individuals ''caught up'' in this spreading web in the Balkans. There
have been first hand accounts of the horrors of war from those still inside, and from those who recently have taken sanctuary in Hungary, Macedonia, or elsewhere. From among
these posts have come requests for prayer. Some ask for prayer for the displaced Kosovars. Others ask for prayer for the innocent Serbs. There are a few that are calling for Christians to pray that NATO "repents'' of their crimes and stop the bombing. The one who asked/demanded this is a "Serbian Pastor"....protestant/evangelical/Pentecostal I
believe.
I always wondered how ''political'' GOD really is.
Years ago as an impressionable lad I watched a satirical commentary. It occurred on a program called "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In". In this skit the members of the comedy
troop each made one short statement. Artie Johnson in his German Soldier Persona began the presentation by declaring: ''GOD is on our side.'' One by one an American GI, a
Japanese Soldier, a Scots Guardsman, an Israeli Tanker, and a Palestinian Terrorist each declared "GOD is on our side....". At the completion Dan Rowen stepped before the
camera and asked "Whose side is GOD really on?
Now this program was part of America in the Sixties. Vietnam was a place where a very ''unsanitary'' war was being waged. The country was divided and torn apart. Today commentators ask if Kosovo/Yugoslavia can become another "Vietnam". Concerning the possibility, many in Congress are asking for ''serious'' debate prior to the committing of ''ground troops" to active incursion into Yugoslavia.
If you go by most of the commentaries coming from the Serbian members in our "Christian camp, the majority place NATO and America as the aggressors and the cause of this conflict. Most non-Serb members of our thing called ''the church'' who witnessed NATO ordinance from ground level side with the native Serbs. I can not blame them. Hearing the roar of incoming Tomahawk missiles and the rattle of AAA batteries will prejudice any opinion. Too bad these pleas for prayers from this direction seldom mention the Kosovars except in passing. For you see there will be few ''missionaries'' that were among the Kosovars asking for prayer because what few were there may never get out. But there were very few indeed among the MOSLEM ALBANIAN KOSOVARS.
So how do I pray? As an American for the safety of American Airman, Sailors, Marines, and Soldiers? For their families who are worried that any day personal tragedy can and does
occur? Do a pray as an emotional Christian for every prayer request that comes my way?
Or do I do the unexpected and ask THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT how to pray?
For you see, the majority of the prayer requests that I have seen are at best conflicting, at worst manipulative. Regrettably most prayer by and in the ''church'' is in ''conflict'' with the will of GOD. To manipulate GOD to serve man through man's prayer and fasting all to often is the purpose of our prayers.
Yes, I include myself for I too believed that if I prayed long enough, often enough, good enough I would get "it". That "it' was whatever I decided to "name it and claim it"
to be. My ''heart's desire'' God had to cough up. Many books say it right out front. Many preach it openly. But no matter how it is presented or who presents it, it is still a
lie. The LIE simply is ignoring what GOD might want, and 'PUSH' what ''I'' want.
Anyone remember "PUSH"....Pray Until Something Happens. I heard this over and over. But it was a long time before anyone told me GOD can say "NO!". Then there were those who said don't take 'no' for an answer. I was messed up by man real bad. Then one day I met GOD. YHVH. and He scared me silly.
THE FEAR OF THE LORD....happens the first time usually when we do not expect it. So many talk about it and preach it, yet sneer when I say ''scared silly". They just don't have it. It is not something easily forgotten and ignored. In fact, the closer you ''press in'', to use a much used and popular phrase, the more real HE IS....ALL HE IS becomes
more apparent. When David commands us to "CLAP YOUR HANDS ALL YOU PEOPLE AND SHOUT UNTO GOD WITH A VOICE OF TRIUMPH'' it is because of first hand experience listening to the ARMY OF GOD at the top of the mulberry trees. When David says GOD is a GREAT AND TERRIBLE KING OVER ALL THE ARTH, it was not to write a cute worship song with easily remembered chorus.
The WORD SAYS : Ephesians 6:12 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places. (KJV) 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18 Praying always with all prayer
and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; ''
The situation in the Balkans is not of this world. It manifests deadly and ugly no matter how humane we attempt to make it. Little of the problems, troubles, and general sin
of and in this world can be found as originating with man. We've been helped along this way by many unwanted ''players''. As Paul really tried to teach us, this is a cosmic battle of/for which mankind are both the victims and the perpetrators of ''violence'', ''iniquity'', and ''perversion''.
Isaiah instructed us of a coming time, and a specific action.... 20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a
little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. Has anyone remembered that the KING COMES to judge the earth?
As a ''watchman'' I called out warnings. So did many others. Kosovo is as good a place as any for the ''rulers of the darkness of this world'' to begin their final assault for the THRONE OF GOD. These rulers may not yet believe they have lost. All evidence would seem to show that they have not changed any of their strategies, just escalate them as
time gets closer. We are to ''enter our chambers'' and wait upon the LORD''. Our only weapon given to us is HIS SWORD....THE WORD OF GOD. In Ephesians that term "word'' is RHEMA. Which means we must listen to the direction of THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT, who will direct our warfare in the heavenlies as we raise supplication as we are
''watching''....persevering on behalf of the saints. We are not to be praying for one side or another. We are to pray for all our brothers and sisters as we all pray as THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT directs. Some of us may be called to pray in ways we have never prayed before. But we have to trust ABBA, people. It is not going to be easy if you prefer to
follow your old patterns and all your favorite cliches. Do not rely on past experiences, or your own ''understanding'' of how things should be. What is required is being willing
to listen irregardless of all the noise around us, and choosing to walk in complete obedience in spite of the consequences.
Of those of you who already hear the call to ''go over the wall'', to engage the enemy, you are not alone. Do not try to induce others to join you unless THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT directs you to. Few are called to this line of battle. Few are called to any of them for that matter. Each of us who have chosen to serve GOD, has a place and a purpose. Do what you are called to do and pray for each other unknowing of anything except for what THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT imparts.
Do not be deceived by ''the smoke and mirrors'' that the world will throw up from time to time. The Enemy still comes to steal, kill, and destroy. His patterns do not change. Deception, Distraction, Division, Discouragement, Depression, Delusion, Defilement are the major weapons in his arsenal....and we have all felt their blows the last few weeks. It is time to get over our personal pains, problems, and plans to do the work of THE KING.
THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE, ON THE EARTH RIGHT NOW !!
is our Battle Cry. Try it out loud...it feels real good....
selah
old dog
DEAR FRIENDS,
i went to Gainesville Florida this weekend, had an 'interesting time' your thoughts are needed....
Driving North just after the Florida Turnpike merged with I-75 i had an open eyed vision at 70 mph. There were two roadblocks covering both sides of I-75. And it was a massive display of force. hundreds of dark brown busses in rows. The forces involved numbered in the thousands as each vehicle was 'scanned' by their
license plate in some way. Most cars were waved through. in some cases the driver was told to pull over in
the closed lanes. There one of three things happened. The car was told to turn around and join a long line of
cars that were being rerouted toward the turnpike south which takes you to Orlando.
The Second option was one or more of the occupants were removed and the car was sent either on it's way ...or joined the convoy towards Orlando.
The THIRD option was what got my attention...those people removed from their cars joined this third group where everyone in the 'car' was removed. men went to one group of busses....children and teens into another....women with small children and babies a third....the elderly and those in wheel chairs a fourth.
When a car was emptied a 'driver' jumped in and headed north. the busses with children and the informed (the term came to my spirit) went north....the busses with males went toward Tampa/West....women to Orlando/South....
it was a precision military operation. on the ground were Tanks and APC's....helicopter gun ships in the air.
T-52 's and bulldozers were pushing off the burning cars of those who either attempted to resist or flee.... and there was a very large pile of bodies lying to the side. no body bags....but teams scanning,
fingerprinting, and looting the dead of valuables... two other little things, in this nature occurred during this trip. They can wait.
Bob in Miami