Prophetic Inconsistencies

Bob Neumann

Dear People, In the last few days some people have noted certain "PROPHETIC INCONSISTENCIES" that have floated over and through the INTERNET. Now exactly how many "prophetic sites" are out there on the WWW I have no clue. More important is that I could care less. The reason at this time THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT has me involved with two "sites".....THE WATCHMEN-PROPHETS ASSEMBLY and END TIME PROPHETIC VISION. Why these two you may ask? Because somewhere on this "road" THE MOST HIGH GOD "tied" me with Bill Somers and Stephen Bening. Why either of these two men continue to put up with me is simply that ABBA has shown me a measure of grace and favor with both of these my brothers. Logic does not fit here.

So if you expect something short and simple you can delete and move on because what is churning in my spirit is neither. Today we are in a world where most people have no clue how GOD WORKS because they have listened and learned from MAN. So how a "PROPHET" is defined and how "PROPHETIC" is seen today in the AMERICAN/ENGLISH SPEAKING church is important. Today "prophetic" can be anything that "exhorts", "edifies", "encourages", "comforts", "confirms" the church-going individual. Few mention "correct" and "chasten" because it does not help people "feel good". Many "prophetic leaders" income requires making people "feel good".....and that is dangerous.

Scripturally we have a template of what is a "prophet" as GOD intended. The "IMAGE" of WATCHMAN goes steadily along with it. And we can blame Isaiah and Ezekiel for it all.....

6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
8 The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:
9 But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the LORD; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.
In Isaiah 62 GOD HIMSELF claims placing and appointing watchmen. Their job is to annoy THE MOST HIGH with prayer and intercession. WHY? Good question. Read all of Isaiah 62. GOD MADE PROMISES....and will fulfill them. PERIOD. But in HIS TIME. So we have to ask about DIVINE TIMETABLES....11 The burden of Dumah. He calleth to me out of Seir, Watchman, what of the night? Watchman, what of the night?
12 The watchman said, The morning cometh, and also the night: if ye will enquire, enquire ye: return, come.
Now Isaiah 21:11-12 shows GOD addressing the WATCHMAN...but the whole chapter really pivots around JUDGMENT and the FALL OF BABYLON. The Prophet Habakkuk mentions his role as "watchman"...

1 I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved.
2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.
"WATCHMEN" and "PROPHETS" according to these few verses answer to GOD. Not man. Some as Habakkuk and Isaiah are given dreams and visions of THE END TIMES that will surely come. So if they all "COME FROM GOD" it makes sense if they are "consistent". Now this takes me to EZEKIEL...and the CALL....

4 And he said unto me, Son of man, go, get thee unto the house of Israel, and speak with my words unto them.
5 For thou art not sent to a people of a strange speech and of an hard language, but to the house of Israel;
6 Not to many people of a strange speech and of an hard language, whose words thou canst not understand. Surely, had I sent thee to them, they would have hearkened unto thee.
7 But the house of Israel will not hearken unto thee; for they will not hearken unto me: for all the house of Israel are impudent and hardhearted.
8 Behold, I have made thy face strong against their faces, and thy forehead strong against their foreheads.
9 As an adamant harder than flint have I made thy forehead: fear them not, neither be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.
10 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, all my words that I shall speak unto thee receive in thine heart, and hear with thine ears.
11 And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear.
12 Then the spirit took me up, and I heard behind me a voice of a great rushing, saying, Blessed be the glory of the LORD from his place.
13 I heard also the noise of the wings of the living creatures that touched one another, and the noise of the wheels over against them, and a noise of a great rushing.
17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.

What is interesting is that GOD sends Ezekiel as a WATCHMAN and PROPHET unto THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL...and tells EZEKIEL that they won't listen. Ezekiel was not meant to have a thriving, growing ministry. And he knew it. Thirty chapters later we are "told" why....

1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

Please understand that THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL had not listened to Ezekiel...or any other of GOD'S PROPHETS. Here GOD does something different. HE tells "the people" to pick their own watchman from among themselves. And when the JUDGMENT COMES...THE TRUMPET BLOWS...that "people's watchman" will be judged just as GOD JUDGES HIS OWN ANOINTED WATCHMEN. EZEKIEL hears right from THE THRONE ROOM but the "people's watchman" uses his/her natural eyes. Now Ezekiel 33 ends with a bang and 34 begins with one...

27 Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.
28 For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through.
29 Then shall they know that I am the LORD, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.
30 Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the LORD.
31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.
32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.
33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.

1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.

Now that is just the beginning of Chapter 34....it deserves being studied daily.

So why are there "PROPHETIC INCONSISTENCIES"? Because we have two sets of WATCHMEN and PROPHETS. Those sent by and who "hear" THE MOST HIGH GOD...and those who were not.

In a nutshell, that is the whole problem....nice and simple. How to distinguish between the two is a problem. Now many people like to turn to Paul to explain the lack of consistency...

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

As far as I am concerned Paul did not write 1 Corinthians 13 as a "prophetic litmus test". Because "we" are all "immature" we are limited on what we see. This excuses all inconsistencies for most people. Explains the weird and bizarre that sometimes comes out of no where on the WWW. What Paul was saying that with faith, hope, and charity/love we can "grow up" and see "FACE TO FACE"...and to KNOW. Now who exactly are we to see "FACE TO FACE"?

Back to Paul...12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Like verse 15? Compare it to Matthew 6...1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Here JESUS has HIS WAY of GIVING...PRAYING....and FASTING. Those who do it there own way get their own rewards. As Paul said...according to their own works. Sure they "look" and "sound" religious....spiritual even. Only that is the problem, if you give, pray, fast as JESUS WANTS....no one would see or hear. No one would notice...except ABBA.

Who is exactly THE ONE we meet FACE TO FACE if we DO AS THE SON COMMANDS. NOT JUST ""WHAT""....but ""HOW"".

So how do we explain INCONSISTENCIES....simple....people saying and sharing things they either do not understand....or ......worse yet....make up as they go.

In the long run we all are to judge and weigh everything we "see" or "hear" by THE LOGOS and THE RHEMA. So we have to study the SCRIPTURE and listen to THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. Then we can pick up our own cross and follow THE GOOD SHEPHERD.

SELAH bob

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