(00:46:54) Katherine MC: How are you?
(00:46:59) proctorg76: ok
(00:47:17) Katherine MC: Just okay?
(00:47:56) proctorg76: yeah, it's going to take a while to recover from seeing "Troy"
(00:48:19) Katherine MC: Feeling a bit inferior?
(00:48:20) proctorg76: I and 3 of my friends all agree, it's almost as bad as "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"
(00:48:31) Katherine MC: which one?
(00:48:50) proctorg76: the first one that would be best left unseen
(00:49:02) proctorg76: and coincidentally, the worst movie ever
(00:49:03) Katherine MC: that would be all of them.
(00:49:35) proctorg76: anyway
(00:50:03) proctorg76: I've never seen a book-to-movie conversion slaughtered that badly
(00:50:18) Katherine MC: ou read the book? I'm impressed.
(00:50:22) Katherine MC: you*
(00:51:32) proctorg76: while everything about the movie sucked, most of the criticism should be directed at the way one of it's central themes was the nonexistence of the entire Greek Pantheon, and the fact that at the end,
(00:51:33) proctorg76: sigh
(00:51:43) proctorg76: at the end, Paris and Helen lived happily ever after
(00:51:51) Katherine MC: OMG!
(00:52:03) Katherine MC: You're right, that is bad. That is very, very, bad!
(00:52:14) proctorg76: and the seige only lasted a couple weeks
(00:52:22) Katherine MC: ::sputters::
(00:52:37) Katherine MC: So the movie sort of reminded you of a book by the same title?
(00:52:54) proctorg76: and they made Achilles the star, with Oddeysus only appearing onscreen for maybe 10 minutes total
(00:53:09) proctorg76: more like a book called Teh Illiad
(00:53:20) Katherine MC: Oh yeah...
(00:53:49) proctorg76: as a history major, I'm sure you're even more offended than I am
(00:53:54) Katherine MC: Well at least they didn't title the movie "The Illiad"
Now THAT would have been a crime.
(00:54:04) Katherine MC: Nah, I don't get too uptight about that sort of thing, yet.
(00:54:15) proctorg76: because absolutely nobody would have gone to see it?
(00:55:04) Katherine MC: No. That would have been justice.
(00:55:34) Katherine MC: people would have gone to see it. I mean, Look at Titanic.
(00:55:52) proctorg76: or pearl harbor?
(00:56:06) proctorg76: suprise endings seem to be ever less popular in Hollywood these days
(00:57:05) Katherine MC: Keeping the facts straight is almost unheard of anymore.
(00:58:03) proctorg76: the Lord of the Rings movies seemed to do an OK job of sticking to the source material
(00:58:16) proctorg76: except for that bit at the end of Two Towers with Faromir
(00:58:20) proctorg76: but it wasn't that bad.
(00:59:29) Katherine MC: I never went to see those movies. Didn't like the books very much. *duck-*
(01:00:41) proctorg76: what? anybody that had the force of will to get through the awful Tom Bombadil parts is entitled to whatever opinion they want
(01:02:08) Katherine MC: Tom Bobadil?
(01:03:16) proctorg76: there was a really slow part near the beginning of the first book with a guy named tom bombadil dancing around in the woods and singing to trees
(01:03:21) proctorg76: for about 90 pages.
(01:03:23) proctorg76: it was awful
(01:03:37) Katherine MC: Oh yeah, I remember. God, that was awful!
(01:03:44) Katherine MC: But I read it. Every last damn word
(01:03:48) proctorg76: whee
(01:04:00) Katherine MC: And then a promptly forgot it.
At the beach one Christmas. I had nothing better to do.
(01:04:33) Katherine MC: Rest of my family were watching old movies.
(01:04:42) Katherine MC: I loath watching movies. Don't know why, but I do.
(01:04:53) proctorg76: hmm
(01:05:21) proctorg76: I can only think of a handful of really old movies that are worth seeing
(01:05:34) proctorg76: Dr. Strangelove, for sure
(01:07:12) proctorg76: Advise and Consent was a fascinating look into the workings of the senate
(01:07:48) proctorg76: Spartacus managed to pull off the trick that Pearl Harbor attempted and failed miserably: being a kick-ass action film and chick-flick at the same time
(01:07:51) proctorg76: and that's about it
(01:10:12) Katherine MC: I just don't like movies. And I can't stand I Love Lucy, and that's like my family's favorite show.
(01:10:23) proctorg76: yeah, it does kinda suck
(01:10:26) proctorg76: my mom likes it
(01:10:37) Katherine MC: My worst nightmare is to be stuck at the beach in bad weather when there is an I Love Lucy Marathon on TV.
(01:11:44) proctorg76: y'know, this is kinda off on a tangent
(01:12:06) proctorg76: but my next door neighbor who's a senior in high school has the worst parents ever
(01:12:33) Katherine MC: They like I love Lucy?
(01:12:36) proctorg76: they were supposed to go on a family vacation to the beach this weekend, and when he woke up saturday they'd taken his car and left him a $20 on the countertop
(01:12:46) Katherine MC: Oh no!
(01:12:51) proctorg76: it's funny, in a sad, sad way
(01:12:59) Katherine MC: Yeah, in a very sad sick way.
(01:14:03) proctorg76: so we called a couple other people and went to hang out at the bookstore in florence
(01:14:34) proctorg76: and then the guy that was driving decided to go see troy, and it was one of those "we're going to go see this crappy movie because i"m driving and if you don't like it I'll just leave you all here" kinda things
(01:14:39) proctorg76: and that's how I got to see Troy
(01:14:53) proctorg76: hmm, that actually rounded off the conversation nicely
(01:14:59) Katherine MC: Yeah.
(01:15:09) Katherine MC: I'm impressed.
(01:15:10) proctorg76: tangent lines are fun
(01:15:26) Katherine MC: It takes me a lot longer to get back to the point.
(01:15:32) proctorg76: I used to have this biology teacher in high school who was really easy to distract
(01:15:47) proctorg76: sometimes we could keep him going on something horribly offtopic for more than an hour
(01:16:47) proctorg76: yeah, when will teacher-baiting become an olympic sport?
(01:17:02) Katherine MC: <G> My linguistics professor...
(01:17:15) Katherine MC: Now he got flustered easily.
(01:17:41) Katherine MC: He was about 27 years old, and was the prodigy of his graduate program. But what do you do with a PhD in Lingusitcs?
(01:17:54) proctorg76: that's a good question
(01:18:06) proctorg76: so what did he do?
(01:18:11) Katherine MC: So there he was stuck trying to teach a bunch of people who were just taking his class to fill a requirement. The class was cross referenced three different ways.
(01:18:20) proctorg76: awww
(01:18:32) Katherine MC: Don't feel sorry for him. He was a total ass.
(01:18:36) proctorg76: oh, ok
(01:18:45) Katherine MC: Practically refused to answer questions.
(01:19:06) Katherine MC: I once asked him for a definition of "grammaticality", and he couldn't give it to me.
(01:19:12) proctorg76: that's a word?
(01:19:17) Katherine MC: Apparently.
(01:19:19) proctorg76: hm
(01:19:28) proctorg76: y'know, just because the president says it...
(01:19:51) Katherine MC: Well in this case his word made it so. Or more to the point his word caused us to make it so.
(01:19:58) proctorg76: oh
(01:20:55) Katherine MC: He once told us to do a certain portion of the exam a certain way. Well I did, and he took off points.
(01:21:14) Katherine MC: Would not listen to reason. Would not listen to the dozen of students who had done as he had said, and had done it wrong.
(01:21:31) Katherine MC: Nope, that was ten points off the grade.
(01:21:50) proctorg76: my english teacher in 9'th grade would misspell words on true/false questions and then grade based on the typo
(01:22:32) Katherine MC: I rarely argue, but when I do, I usually win (because I'm generally right), but with this guy, I argued til I was blue in the face and he wouldn't budge.
(01:22:45) proctorg76: and some people are just morons
(01:22:52) Katherine MC: yep
(01:23:11) proctorg76: I've never met anyone who like their physics instructor
(01:23:32) proctorg76: spanning people I know at 4 different schools
(01:23:41) proctorg76: Physics professors are universally incompetent bastards
(01:24:24) Katherine MC: Nahhh, I was once riding the bus, and at one stop two girls came on with just awe-stricken faces. When they sat down, one said, "That was the best class I have ever sat in"
(01:24:31) Katherine MC: Turns out they were talking about physics.
(01:24:33) proctorg76: wow
(01:24:49) Katherine MC: I've never seen the like. Made me want to take that course.
(01:27:26) proctorg76: hmm
(01:28:43) Katherine MC: I need to sign off...AOL is giving me error messages.
(01:28:48) Katherine MC: I'll be back asap
(01:28:51) proctorg76: ok
(01:29:36) Katherine MC logged out.
(01:35:54) Katherine MC logged in.
(01:36:41) Katherine MC: back
(01:36:49) proctorg76: yay
(01:36:50) proctorg76: hmm
(01:37:06) proctorg76: looks like everyone does love my government teacher
(01:38:33) Katherine MC: who was your govt teacher?
(01:38:37) proctorg76: Jack Lechelt
(01:39:28) proctorg76: I don't think I missed his class once the whole semester
(01:39:29) Katherine MC: rMP?
(01:39:32) proctorg76: ?
(01:40:00) Katherine MC: you're looking @ ratemyprofessors?
(01:40:03) proctorg76: yeah
(01:43:22) Katherine MC: kewl.
(01:46:53) proctorg76: and what's the deal with english teachers?
(01:47:14) proctorg76: I'm thinking of the 4 I had in high school, and they were all a bit off in their own ways
(01:47:42) proctorg76: especially Mrs. Johnson, or "Crazy J" as everyone called her
(01:47:45) proctorg76: including the principal
(01:47:55) Katherine MC: Oh that's funny.
(01:50:11) proctorg76: who was a hyperactive lady who looked not unlike who looked something like supreme court justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburgsupreme court justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg and would sometimes get so worked up that students near the door would walk right out of the room and she wouldn't notice
(01:50:26) proctorg76: wow, something went terribly wrong with that link
(01:51:19) Katherine MC: did you read this on the ratemyprofessors page?
(01:51:33) proctorg76: ha-hah
(01:51:40) proctorg76: my link was just garbled and ugly
(01:51:43) proctorg76: yours doesn't work at all
(01:51:54) Katherine MC: I wasn't making a link.
(01:51:59) Katherine MC: I was asking a question.
(01:52:21) proctorg76: read what?
(01:53:08) Katherine MC: Oh I see.
(01:53:12) Katherine MC: duh, brain cramp
(01:53:50) Katherine MC: I thought you were quoting something, and I was afraid it was coming from my page on RMP (which I am currently making some repairs on).
(01:53:59) Katherine MC: if so, I was going to have to find and remove that rating.
(01:54:13) proctorg76: oh, no, I was making up a description of my 10'th grade english teacher on the fly
(01:54:24) proctorg76: and borked my link to a picture of justice ginsburg
(01:55:11) Katherine MC: I remember one time, when we had a sub in chemistry class, a large number of the students jumped out the window and the sub didn't notice.
(01:56:15) proctorg76: I remember this one time I had a sub in calculus and thought about jumping out the window but didn't because it was only on the first floor and there's no way I could've died
(01:56:26) proctorg76: she tried to tell our class that the divine right of kings applied to George Bush
(01:58:48) Katherine MC: I had a sub who told me that Clinton would be re-elected.
(01:58:57) proctorg76: in 2000?
(01:59:30) Katherine MC: 1998 or 1999.
When I pointed out that under one of the amendments of the constitution, this couldn't happen
(01:59:41) proctorg76: 20'th, isn't it?
(01:59:44) proctorg76: I'mma go check
(01:59:46) Katherine MC: she said, "well they could change the constitution again."
(01:59:58) Katherine MC: This was in the middle of the Monica Lewinsky scandle.
(02:00:12) proctorg76: ah, 22'nd
(02:00:31) proctorg76: hmm
(02:01:01) proctorg76: in 2003, two bills were introduced into the house of representatives to begin the long process of striking that amendment down
(02:01:23) proctorg76: but, I think if I were Bill, I'd try to take advantage of the loophole
(02:02:11) proctorg76: I love silly arguments
(02:02:22) Katherine MC: what loophole.
(02:02:29) Katherine MC: Its two terms or 10 years.
(02:03:13) proctorg76: ah, but
(02:03:58) proctorg76: the exact text of the amendment reads "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once"
(02:04:14) Katherine MC: he is NOT going to be appointed.
(02:04:17) proctorg76: there's no reason he couldn't be elected vice-president
(02:04:20) Katherine MC: And I doubt anybody will make him VP
(02:04:23) proctorg76: and then kill someone
(02:04:31) proctorg76: actually, I"ve kinda wondered why that hasn't happened yet
(02:04:34) Katherine MC: The killing part, I can see.
(02:05:32) proctorg76: one of the parties could get a hack that'll stick to the party line exactly, and have him run behind an enormously popular candidate, and then pay the popular one off to retire
(02:05:43) proctorg76: and then, party hack gives pardons to everyone
(02:05:49) proctorg76: there's nothing anybody can do about it
(02:06:07) proctorg76: except an impeachment, but that probably wouldn't work
(02:06:38) Katherine MC: and where does Clinton come into all thsi?
(02:06:41) proctorg76: iunno
(02:06:49) proctorg76: but the republicans should have tried it in '96
(02:07:01) proctorg76: everyone wanted colin powell to be president except colin powell
(02:07:25) proctorg76: he could've run with dole
(02:07:26) proctorg76: retired
(02:07:31) proctorg76: it works out for everyone
(02:07:39) Katherine MC: I know!
(02:07:53) Katherine MC: I think I respect Powell more for turning the chance down.
(02:09:59) Katherine MC: RateMyProfessors.com - Ratings for Professor Andrew Kustin
Look at this mess I have to fix.
(02:10:08) Katherine MC: Half the ratings are for Andrew, half are for his wife.
(02:10:57) proctorg76: oh my
(02:11:25) Katherine MC: I haven't a clue how I'm going to straighten this out.
(02:11:55) Katherine MC: The webmaster runs a program every week that searches for and deletes all ratings for the same prof with the same IP address.
(02:12:13) Katherine MC: So I can't just manually transfer the ratings.
(02:12:25) Katherine MC: copy and paste them to a new heading.
(02:13:44) proctorg76: contact the webmaster and he can monkey around in the database
(02:14:02) proctorg76: or should be able to
(02:14:19) Katherine MC: Yeah, that's what I did.
(02:14:47) Katherine MC: Then I'm going to ask him to teach me how to do that monkeying around....it will be a handy trick to know.
(02:15:54) proctorg76: you probably won't be able to, if their security is good it'll require physical access to the server
(02:16:30) Katherine MC: point. I have limited access to the database, but I don't think I have enough for that sort of tinkering.
(02:19:16) proctorg76: hmm
(02:25:58) proctorg76: I see the forums only work in Internet Explorer
(02:26:51) Katherine MC: The RMP message boards? I didn't know that.
Don't say that I told you that I had limited Database access.
(02:27:04) Katherine MC: That's not common knowledge, or a common thing among admins
(02:27:08) proctorg76: oh, it's a problem with their tables
(02:27:23) proctorg76: and it's probably not common knowledge because 95% of everyone uses IE
(02:27:53) proctorg76: and for that reason, it's probably not worth the trouble of fixing
(02:28:35) Katherine MC: probably not.
