Zhong's Fairytale Gives A Huge Fishy Stink
© Prakash J. Mascarenhas, 8th Sept., 2002. Revised 14th April 2003.
I received mails forwarded to me by St. Gabriel, from a Wang Cheng, on behalf of a Robert Zhong, S.J., who, it is claimed, was elected pope in a Sedevacantist Council in Taiwan in 1999.
From: "HH Pope Pius XIV" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Approval for a Conclave of Sedavacantist Catholics
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:15:32 -0700
To Whom it May Concern:
Greetings. I am the secretary to His Holiness Pope Pius XIV, formerly known as Father Bob Zhong S.J. His Holiness was a priest under His Holiness Pope Pius XII until the infamous Vatican II council. He was literally kicked out of his order (The Jesuits) due to his "failure to submit to the Order of the New Mass." Father Zhong went on to establish his own church in central Taiwan. Due to insufficient funds, the church (Our Lady of China Parish) was closed.
In the year 1999, a meetings of sedavacantists bishops and priests (many of them were 2nd generation priests and bishops ordained by bishops and priests who served pre-Vatican II and who are no longer with us) assembled in Taipei, Taiwan to elect a pope to rule the One, Holy, Apostolic Roman Catholic faith. On the auspicious day of September 26, 1999, the conclave elected out of the 75 bishops and priests, Father Bob Zhong to serve as the ruling Pontiff. He took the name Pius XIV to be not confused with Father Lucian "Pius XIII."
His Holiness is informed of the desire to gather all sedavacantists Catholics to hold a general conclave. His Holiness has expressed his willingness to step down if someone else is elected to rule as Pope. Therefore, if you would, could you please include His Holiness in the mailing list. We are currently working on a website and will promptly submit the link to you.
His Holiness is trying to establish a contact in the United States. Once we know the address, we will also submit it to you as well. As of now, please keep in touch with Us at this email address: [email protected].
May Our Lord and Our Lady guide us through these perilous times.
In Christo et Maria,
+Cheng Cardinal Wen
Papal secretary
From: "His Holiness Pope Pius XIV" <[email protected]>
To: "D&H Mildenhall" <[email protected]>
Sent: 13 August 2002 15:17
Subject: Re: Approval for a Conclave of Sedavacantist Catholics
Dear D&H Mildenhall:
To answer your questions:
The clergy present in the 1999 election were for the most part, Taiwanese clergy. Some were clergy who managed to escape the Communist Persecution in China. These bishops and priests served during His Holiness Pope Pius XII in loving memory. Many of them are aged and very old. Not many Sedavacantist Catholics exist in Taiwan, partly due to the fact that religion in the Chinese culture is seen as a high and important factor in life, that no one dares question it. Also, not many Catholic publications have been translated into Chinese. Therefore, many Chinese Catholics cannot tell the difference between the old mass and the new mass. Tragic indeed.
His Holiness would like to remind you all of one fundamental fact: the One, Holy, Apostolic Roman Catholic Church is NOT in an apostasy. Despite the happenings of Vatican II, the Church may seem like She is going through an apostasy, but Our Lord promised that even the gates of hell shall not prevail against her. Many will fall FROM the Church. We are experiencing an apostasy FROM the Church rather than OF the Church.
We have a question: Is the supposed "Cardinal" Gordon Bateman still in communion with Pius XIII? What is the situation? We were seeking some dialogue between Pius XIII and Pius XIV and Bateman served as Our intermediate.
Please do keep in touch.
May Almighty God preserve Us so that we may do His will on Earth and restore Mother Holy Church.
+Wen Cardinal Cheng
Papal secretary
From: "D&H Mildenhall" <[email protected]>
To: "His Holiness Pope Pius XIV" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Approval for a Conclave of Sedavacantist Catholics
Dear +Wen,
We are very interested in what you have to say - we take your point that 'the Church' is and was not in Apostasy - and that Vatican II has fallen from the Church rather than causing the Church to fall. An exercise in semantics...
Re Cardinal Gordon Bateman. He left Fr Pulvermacher - a.k.a. Pius XIII - in October last year, taking many of the Pius XIII followers with him.
+Bateman declares Fr P to be a heretic and that due to that heresy was never elected Pope legally - due to the operation of Canon law - we can send a copy of the official document condemening and deposing Fr P if you wish.
This letter is being copied to others on our list once again.
God bless
D and H Mildenhall
From: "His Holiness Pope Pius XIV" <[email protected]>
To: "D&H Mildenhall" <[email protected]>
Sent: 14 August 2002 16:07
Subject: Re: Approval for a Conclave of Sedavacantist Catholics
Dear D and H Mildenhall:
We would very much appreciate it if you send Us a copy of the official document disposing Father Lucian. We were rather amazed by his consecration as bishop and the "Pope."
His Holiness and his theologians have been studying the situation of the Novus Ordo Church for close to 20 years. 20 years of study, we can only say we are still in the grey. Do not think just by citing a few Catholic doctrine sources we can prove that John Paul II isn't a true Pope.
Even though God has revealed through His few true followers that he has indeed fallen into heresy and lost the Pontificate, the current written dogmas and doctrines do not point to anything. Sedavacantists often like to quote St. Robert Bellarmine and Cardinal Billot as the sources that prove he has Lost the papacy. But you all must know that what a saint says is not necessary the official teachings of Mother Holy Church. Up till now, We have not been able to find any official Church teaching regarding the disposal of a heretical Pope. Mother Holy Church has never declared with her full infallibility any so doctrine. So, as I said, this is a tough one.
Continue to study the teachings of Mother Church, hopefully something will come out.
Do not be too hasty as to declare a sedavacantist council. Prepare well and with thought.
Our blessings+
In Christo et Maria
+Wen Cardinal Cheng
From: "D&H Mildenhall" <[email protected]>
To: "His Holiness Pope Pius XIV" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Approval for a Conclave of Sedavacantist Catholics
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:41:53 +0800
Dear +Wen
We appreciate your thoughts - and attach the declaration
God bless
D and H Mildenhall
Pope Zhong: Joke Pope
In response to the above messages, I wrote out an objection to Zhong's claim. However, since no one agreed with me, I left off the matter, and even deleted my copy of my post...
I still believe, that merely on the basis of the above information and disregarding the new information, it is obvious that Zhong's claim is a fraud, a joke...
My objections: The Zhong claim party, by its own admission, was not absolutely clear in their own minds, that Charlieboy is not any more pope than the Rev. Moon is Jesus Christ... That, in itself, is basis for not even considering conducting a papal election...
Then again, the adoption of the name Pius 14th, implies a recognition of the legitimacy of Pius 13th; who is very much alive; therefore there could be no basis for proceeding with an election... If Pulvermacher is merely a fraud, then there can be no acknowledgement of his name as Pius 13th; a future Pope may well choose to take that name. In the past, when there was confusion, legitimate popes avoided taking a used name, and took a fresh number. Thus for example, there is still dispute about whether Felix II, who attempted to displace Pope Liberius, was a legitimate pope or not. There are good theologians who, without impugning Liberius, nevertheless believe Felix a legitimate pope...
However, in the more modern times, when researchers were able to determine the line of popes with reasonable certainity, Popes have disregarded the obvious fakes and have not refrained from taking the names that these had used. Thus for example, the antipope Baldassare di Cossa took the name John XXIII, which Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli also took. (It is a different matter that Roncalli proved a worse case than Cossa, who for all his sins, never departed from the faith.) Again, Giacomo della Chiesa, the successor of Pope St. Pius X (Joseph Sarto) took the name Benedict XV, which had been taken previously by the Avignonese Antipope, Peter of Luna...
Finally, I would contrast the attitudes of three different claim parties, each of which, in disregard of the other two, have attributed the title Pope Gregory XVII to their claimants: Joseph Cardinal Siri, Clement Dominguez y Gomez of Seville and the Franco-Quebecois clown in St. Jovite... The same goes for the psuedo-mysticalist claimants, Pope Peter II, of whom, it seems, there are about half a dozen or more!
Prakash Mascarenhas
From: "D&H Mildenhall" <[email protected]>
To: "prakash" <[email protected]>
Subject: Fw: Pope Zhong: Joke Pope?
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 16:03:59 +0800
Forwarded Message
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Sent: 16 August 2002 13:21
Subject: Re: Pope Zhong: Joke Pope?
Dear Mildenhalls,
On the face of it, this Taiwan pope could have one of the better claims if all the info that needs to be gathered checks out. This however may be difficult since we're dealing with countries where record keeping was sometimes impossible, records were destroyed, or records cannot now be obtained.
The sense in which I took the message they sent is that they did not at all intend to recognize Pius XIII, but rather were trying to avoid any confusion or identification with him such as occured with the anti-pope John XXIII and Roncalli.
As to the reference to Bellarmine and the heretical VII popes, I sensed that they were saying that they WERE heretical, they just didn't know how, exactly, refering not to their actually being heretical but to the process itself of becoming so. We in the United States and other free nations so take our freedom of information for granted that we cannot conceive of anyone not having full access to all the books, historic documents, records etc..., to which we have access. Keeping the faith without all the bells and whistles is entirely possible, however, as the history of those Catholics who survived the persecutions in Japan for 200 years proved. You don't have to understand a thing entirely to believe it, or be able to explain it even, although it is much preferred that especially those in the teaching Church be able to do so.
I don't know how many of those out there can speak and/or write another language, but I am not bilingual. I cannot imagine the difficulties involved in trying to express something accurately to others in a language not my own. I have enough difficulty getting my point across in English.
Let's give these newcomerrs the benefit of the doubt until it can be reliably proven that they are not what they claim to be. It sounds like these people already have been persecuted plenty enough.
Blessings,
Teresa L. Benns
I live in India, a country that is not exactly in the middle of the modern civilization. Public libraries are few are far apart, and do not offer internet facilities.
My faith was formed by the books that were preserved and passed on from the the thirties, forties and fifties, principally, the Radio Replies, copies of which I had found in the parish library. The books had been dumped there because no one wanted them, and were unattended until I took up the maintenance of the library. Later, after I walked out of the parish, the library was again left to rot for many years.
There are small informal groups of dissidents in Bombay, which also helped me to understand the situation. Also, the Lefebvrists, who have a large and active community in India and in Bombay, many of whom at heart Sedevacantists, but who, unfortunately, are not courageous enought to follow their conviction and reject Lefebvrism. The internet came in much later, some five and half years later, to be precise.
On the other hand, Taiwan, the Republic of China or Nationalist China, ROC, is very much part of the American World Empire. Taiwan lives with America, and if America were to withdraw support, even covertly, Communist China, the People's Republic of China, PRC, will just walk in and enslave it. Again, Taiwan is very much an important part of the Internet revolution, in fact, a crucial cog that manufactures and supplies crucial hardware. As such, except for the Formosan aborigines in the mountains, for some one from Taiwan to claim to be unacquainted with the Internet, is very fantastic. By name, Zhong, if he is Taiwanese, is a descendant of the Chinese who colonised Formosa in the last five hundred years, and is not a Formosan aborigine.
The first papal claim I learnt about, excepting the Palmarian, was Pope Linus II's, by word of mouth, from Lefebvrist circles. It was for many years the only one I knew of. But when I searched the internet, the first claim I found was that of Pope Michael. It was more than a year later that I found Pulvermacher's claim. Pope Linus II still does not, as far as I know, have a web presence.
Then again, one is forced to wonder as to how the fantastic seventy-five sedevacantist priests and bishops of Taiwan missed being noticed by the rest of the world, especially when nearly about everyone in the Resistance has been looking for bishops to emerge from beneath the Iron and Bamboo Curtain. If even one such bishop should emerge, there would have been a huge hullaboo, and he would have found himself being wooed by most factions to join them and pass on the Apostolic Succession, wouldn't he? Why is it that nobody sought more information from Zhong & Chang about these fantastic seventy-five? Is seventy-five a small number?
It is a very dangerous thing to put one's brain on hold.
Prakash John Mascarenhas