Exchanges With An Indian Apologist...
In Continuation

©Prakash John Mascarenhas, Bombay. 8th November 2003. This page is copyright! See also Previous Exchange.

Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:06:51 +0000 (GMT)
From: P.J.M.
Subject: Re: Your letter to kynhun
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

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Sir,

Please find my response to your latest missive, as above.


Date: 8 Nov 2003 09:41:28 -0000
From: Prof. R.K. Gupta
To: P.J.M.
Subject: Re: Re: your letter to kynhun

Hi

I am impressed by your ken analysis of things,atleast the way yopu
like.Gorund realities cannot me changed.You willhave to take
atleast a century to make changes you wish.
Both of us wont be existing then.
In anycase as president of a civil,liberties organisation
operating internationally, i would sure invite any grievances of
goan citizens and wqe would do our best to support in fighting
with authjorities so doiung ton the extent these are not
seccessionist demand

As far as my english is concerned, well being a senior excutive i
a,m not used to typing that too on computer keyborad.So kindly
ignore mistakes.
with best wishes

Dear Sir,

I thank you for your reply of 8th November 2003. I also thank you for reiterating your unsolicited offer once again, to "support in fighting with the authorities" — presumably for social justice.

In response, and even more specifically to your reiterated, unsolicited offer of aid, I wish to make three specific queries:
  1. I assume that you subscribe to the Indian position that POK is in the illegal possession of Pakistan (a position that I do not necessarily disagree with, but that is another matter).

    Given that position, I ask you: Would you consider, from your perspective, that a native of that territory, who seeks to vacate the Pakistani aggression against POK and restore the lawful Status Quo Ante is a Secessionist?


  2. I am a human being, with all the attendant rights that every human being has, and which is, evidently, since man is global, neither accorded as such either by the Indian constitution or by any other man-made law, but by divine law.

    Further, in your consideration, I am an Indian citizen, and therefore entitled to my rights, such as they are.

    You say that you are a fighter for justice. You say that you and your organization fights for the rights of the downtrodden.

    It is Divine Law that any man, seeing that any other man is unjustly victimized, come to his aid, to relieve the victim.

    At the Nuremberg Trials of Nazi officers, this principle was reiterated with the specific context that Germans, even Germans, had the moral and legal obligations not only to refuse consent, assent and acquiescence to the evils being perpetrated by the German Government under the Fuehrer, but to actively resist them and to aid and relieve its victims.

    I argue in law: India is not my country. India has no moral or legal claim upon my country. India has invaded my country by main force and has seized it.

    In law, this, if it is true, is malfeasance and wrongdoing. Therefore, I, as a constituent of Goa, have been wronged and victimized by India.

    You say that you are a fighter for justice. You say that you and your organization fights for the rights of the downtrodden.

    I therefore make you this invitation and challenge: You have the moral obligation to prove to me and to every Goan citizen the moral and legal basis of India's claim on us, or failing that admit that there is indeed none, and that India is in the illegal and criminal occupation of my Goa.

    If you are a moral man, you will take up this challenge. If you are a moral man, and you find that you cannot get your country, India, to acknowledge and reverse its wrongdoing, then you must resist it to its face.

    I await your response.


  3. I take it, from your website, that you are a follower of some kind of morality, whatever kind that may be.

    Given that, I ask you: Do you believe that evil prevails or that Good prevails?

    I also ask you: Is it your belief that the victims of injustice and of evil should acquiesce and connive in it and with it, or that they should resist it?

    Wherein, according to you, lies perseverance of the dignity and rights, not merely of the victims, but of all men: In surrendering to evil or resisting evil?

    I presume you believe in Mr. Gandhi's "Satya Meva Jayate" - "Truth always prevails". Is it in that light that you mock me and all my compatriots, victims of the evil that your country has perpetrated on mine, when you say and challenge me that "Ground realities cannot be changed" and that "You will have to wait a century at least to make the changes you wish"?

    When some victim of some wrongdoing approaches you as one who purports to be a fighter for justice, a defender of the downtrodden, do you tell them, "Ground realities cannot be changed"?

    I understand from your site that you are a follower of Mr. Gandhi. Would you have advised him that there was no use taking on the British, that his cause was futile and that it would take a century or more to achieve his ends?

    If not, why do you throw that at us?

    I ask you, If you see a people victimized, is it morality that you should discourage them and mock them, or is it morality that you should encourage them and commend them?
I keenly await your responses.

For all my problems with India, I believe, at least in theory, that not all Indians are evil and bad. I live with Indians, work with them. I find evil Indians and good Indians, and indifferent Indians also.

But since you have taken up this issue on your own initiative, you owe, not me, but all mankind the answers to my queries above.

I keenly await your response. I am certain that all men of goodwill will also do so. On your honest and truthful answers will depend a lot.

Lastly, I take this opportunity to thank you for your commendation of my analysis, even though it is a "southpaw swipe" compliment. ("I am impressed by your keen analysis of things, at least the way you like.") I am, of course, willing at anytime to prove my points, and am willing to have you proffer some real objections rather than your offerings of your superior and supercilious sniffling away off my contentions.

I am,

Yours sincerely,

P. John Mascarenhas
(I have taken the liberty of anglicizing your letter, as below.)
Hi

I am impressed by your keen analysis of things, at least the way you like. Ground realities cannot be changed. You will have to take at least a century to make the changes you wish. Both of us won't be existing till then.

In any case as the president of a civil liberties organization operating internationally, I would sure invite any grievances of Goan citizens and we would do our best to support in fighting with the authorities to the extent these are not secessionist demands.

As far as my English is concerned, well being a senior executive I am not used to typing, that too on the computer keyboards. So kindly ignore my mistakes.

With best wishes
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