Combatting Treason
Dear Friends,
I am not at all surprised by the savage and contemptible reply from that ‘genial’ Dr. Jose Colaco, one of the most infamous Goan collaborationists and traitors.
Up till now, the man was putting up a mask of civility and politeness, and I was giving him the benefit of doubt. However, when I counter-attacked one of his close friends, he could no longer bear to continue with the pretense and dropped the mask to reveal his ugliness in all its glory.
I posted Jose Colaco because I wished to prod and probe him, force him to force his esteemable friend, who was attacking me using a pseudonym, to come out into the open. In doing that I expected either of two responses - that he would continue with the pretence and pretend that he did not know "Leah David" or that he would, as he has done, be forced to reveal his true face.
<<[PM: If I understand you correctly, you wish to insinuate something or the other about my name, because it is Indian, and thus about me.] Name? I think it is an excellent Indian name for an Indian man! Prakash = Light... not Lite >>
Secondly, he had made an insinutation about my name, which I wanted him to come out and state openly.
Dr. Colaco took my bait, and how. He descended to pure and incoherent malice and rage, calling me "Prakash saheb," and pretending that because my name is "Indian" I am therefore an Indian, not a Goan.
I would like to point out that Dr. Colaco hails from Poona, the very heart of Ganthiland. Therefore if anyone is a "Saheb" it is he, this Deshastha Goanese...
The people of "British India" fought for independence because, as Hindus who saw the rest of the world as inferior, they could not bear the idea of being ruled by foreigners. But the false ideology of Indianism that is actually Hinduism masquerading as patriotism was not confined only to the Hindus, but also came to infect unwary Christians, who by letting themselves to lose touch with their faith, came to be influenced by the Godless and anti-Christian ideas of the West (which is the antithesis of Christendom, which it has supplanted) and thus also with a liberal, sentimental and emotionalistic viewpoint of India and Hinduism.
It was the victims of this Indianitis among Goans, largely the second and third generations of Goans settled in British India, and out of touch with Goan society, that played the crucial role in betraying Goa to the invaders of 1954 and 1961.
This same ideology was reflected also in the mindset of those who followed the secession of former Catholic Church authorities to constitute the Antichurch. It became the fashion to 'Indianize' - an euphemism for Hinduisation. Part of that fashion was to impose Hindu and Indian names on hapless babies.
My parents never subscribed to Indianism and never considered the occupation legitimate. However, my mother’s brother had gone in to join the Jesuits, just at the same time when the Revolution in the Church happened, and the New Thought came in. He was overwhelmed by it, as so many others were, in his formation years, a boy just out of school, brainwashed by its allure: It is so easy to accept nostrums and not to think originally, especially when those ideas are endorsed by one’s elders and teachers.
And so, he wished to impose Hindu or Indian names, regardless of their meanings. I was 'relatively' unlucky in that this New Church zombie, who despite being a D.Litt, does no original thinking, and who believes that Goans are Maharashtrians and that Konkani is a dialect of Marathi, had his way with my mother in naming me Prakash.
Now, of course, a sensible, intelligent man would not hold that against me, for it should be obvious that babies do not choose their own names nor have any say in the matter. Therefore, I wish to ask, what is the exact point that Dr. Jose Colaso wishes to make about my name, because it is Indian?
All this is interesting, but there is something more interesting. Dr. Colaco thinks that he has scored a great point over me by pointing out that my name is not the typical Goan Christian name, but an Indian, and even Hindu name. However, the same man proudly lists one of his own relatives, another Jesuit, who being zombified at the same time as my Mamti, gave up his good, old-fashioned Goan Christian name and adopted a pagan, Hindu name. And yet, Dr. Colaco, objects to my name, in the keeping of which I had no personal part, even as he rejoices in his relative, who deliberately abandoned his Christian name to adopt a pagan, Hindu one!
Now what is this supposed to mean? I cannot see it as anything other than sheer and unapologetic hypocrisy.
<<I have asked you this in the past & I will ask this again: Looking at this ABUSIVE stuff I see YOU write about people, Are you incapable of making civil conversation with anyone without calling the names you have called them?....even if you disagree with them!
Why are you referring to other women's mastectomies & callin them names like "whore and prostitute"?
And you call yourself a Christian?
SHAME ON YOU!>>
I cannot see that being frank and forthright, and calling a spade a spade is anything shameful. I have merely followed the logic of the woman’s own words, and drawn the inescapable conclusion. I have even carefully provided the justification for drawing this conclusion. Yet Dr. Hypocrite protests!
But of course, by Dr. Hypocrite’s logic, Christ Jesus was also 'shameful' when He called the Pharisees and Sadducees "whitened sepulchures, full of dead men’s bones" "a brood of vipers" etc.
Certainly, I AM a Christian, a follower, however unworthy, of Christ Jesus, and not another hypocrite like our yellow-belly doctor. But here we have a hypocrite who says, let us not fight and disagree but let us all prostitute ourselves and coo sweet nothings in each other’s ears!
Again, no one can accuse me of arbitarily calling people names. As yet, the only really offensive names I have called anyone is one chap who wrote to me using homosexual language, and for which I call him a sodomite, and this woman friend of our good doctor, who offers her body to the public, and for which I have called her a prostitute.
Ah, but of course, there is another - Dr. Colaco's prototype, the good Dr. Jose Francisco Martines-Quisling. I wonder, Is there a connection, besides the spiritual relationship of Quislingism? Perhaps...
<<[PM: Though I now entertain strong doubts on the subject, at the time, I believed that you too would, like me, take umbrage at a procedure whereby someone attacks an article or writing, but on a different site or list altogether and without having the courtesy to bring that counter-argument to the attention of the author of the original work;]
Welcome to this world my dear Prakash Saheb!
I have ZERO problem with anybody saying anything about me anywhere! It is a free world. However, I will refuse to join the gutterous folk by using foul language. You see......I am after all - a cultured Goencar! >>
'Cultured' Goencar! a Deshasta Ganthi from Poona! Rather, 'Cultured' Hypocrite! Certainly, such would find Christ Jesus and His denunciations of his brethren of that time, 'uncultured'!
But I am pleased that my doubt has been confirmed to be a fact, that Dr. Colaco is nothing but a hypocrite. Of course, in this hypocrite’s world, being a libertine is all that is necessary to open doors. The greatest French hypocrite once said, "I disagree with you, but I will die to defend your right to state your views."
That freedom, of course, was never granted to the Catholic Church for its unabashed and unprostituted defence of morality and of the Gospel, and its rejection of freedom from morality and responsibility, for which it was punished again and again with bloody persecutions.
We all have our opinions. Dr. Colaco believes that my position is ‘gutterous’ (sic!) for not prostituting myself and rather being forthright and for calling a spade a spade. On the contrary, I have demonstrated beyond the least shadow of doubt that he is a traitor, a yellow-belly and a collaborationist - one who believe that the Goan people must bow before evil and not resist it, ostensibly for the fear that in so resisting, we could be exterminated…
As I have said before, with ‘friends’ like this, who discourage and demoralize Goans and work to make them amenable to accepting the evil and legitimizing it, Goa has no need for enemies. But I say more than just this. I say boldly and to the face, that such people are agents for the enemy!
<<NO need to waste time on CrackPot ideas like EIP. WOW! Estado India Portugues! Who are you going to get to establish this "Pie in the Sky" Loony Bin idea? Goans?>>
And so, our friend now exposes himself in all his naked glory, as an unabashed traitor! This much is good: That he has come out of the closet! If all I have achieved is this, that I have forced this traitor to come out, I have achieved a great thing.
All this time, I thought that all sensible Goans, especially those who claim to have a love for Goa, should extol the Estado da India Portuguesa. After all, when it comes down to the chips, it IS the official name of our country. We all say Goa! Goa! However, its legal name was and is EIP.
We have the UK which is colloquially called England. However, the UK is much more than merely England.
We have the Netherlands, which is colloquially called Holland. However, the Netherlands is much more than merely Holland, as it also includes Zeeland, South Frisia, North Brabant, etc.
We have the USA which is colloquially called America. However, America is not merely the USA, for factually it extends from Canada to Argentina and Chile. Yet it is understood that when we talk of America we mean not the continents but the country whose official title is the USA.
Likewise with Goa. The EIP is more than merely Goa, yet because Goa and its people are the largest part, the EIP is colloquially called Goa. Certainly, however, other citizens of the EIP, the Damanese, for example, who are not Goans in the usual sense, are still Goans in the sense that the EIP is Goa.
And yet, what part of Goa is really Goa? Goa factually speaking is only the former city of Goa, now a ruin. What we call Goa should actually be called, more properly, Portuguese Konkan, or even Portuguese South Konkan, as the Consuelho of Damao is the Portuguese North Konkan.
And, so where does Colaco’s EIP-phobia leave us?
<<the Mumbaicars? Here... listen to me ...once again! Goans... will talk big and FALL asleep after a Kop or Two! Mumbai? aka Bombay.....was given away as DOWRY to the British. Unlike Goa, the British gave Independence to Bombay as a part of India. END of STORY! If you do NOT like India and Indian rule... LEAVE Bombay / Mumbai and come back to your homeland...GOA!>>
The END OF THE STORY is only for the Poonawala Deshastha Ganthie, and that came when he got his Portuguese citizenship approved, from when he has been transported into heaven. After that, he is the least concerned with Goa, except to continue his old work of sabotaging Goan morale.
From my viewpoint, and not the cockeyed "Goa and Goa alone" viewpoint, all of the Konkan is my homeland. By ethnicity, I am a Konkani. There is NO Goan ethnicity, taken from the purely scientific, ethnological or anthropological viewpoint. On the contrary, from this viewpoint, Goans are part of the Konkani ethnicity.
And, pointedly, all of the Konkan, including Bombay (which is NOT 'Mumbai'), not merely Goa, is under threat to its continued existence.
Dr. Yellow-Belly pretends that he and his fellow-Goanese, such as "Leah David", are one with us Goans in resisting the Marathi colonists' campaign to rename Goa as Govapuri or Gomantak and of Vasco da Gama as Shambajinagar. And yet, in order to spite me, he supports the same people in the extension of their same campaing to rename another Konkani city, with a good old Portuguese name (Bombay is the Portuguese Bom Bahia = Good Bay or Harbour), with the forged name Mumbai. Another evidence of hypocrisy... These Goanese are really and not too covertly agents for the Marathi colonists, for the Maharasthrawadi Gomantak Party, the Shiv Sena, for Halfticket Parricar.
That the British ruled one part of the Konkan and the Portuguese ruled another is immaterial.
What is material is that I am Konkani, and so have a right over all of the Konkan.
If I were merely Indian and not a Goan, I would join those who agitate for a Konkani state. That is, I would be under the moral obligation to seek constitutional means within the Indian constitutional framework to secure the Konkan. However, I am not morally a citizen of India but of the EIP, and thus a victim of India. As such, I owe India no loyalties, whether as a Goan or as a Konkani.
India lost any right to my affections, if any, when it wronged me as a Goan.
But that is not all. Dr. Lunatic is so eager to score points that he tell me that if I do not like to live under Indian rule, I should leave Bombay and resettle in Goa. Actually, I am under the impression that Goa is still being occupied by India. Did somehow Goa secure evacuation by India and this fact escape me? Or is the ‘good doctor’ just being lunatic out of sheer desperation?
<<re: <the good GoaFreeman made a 5 year pronouncement(in 1998) re setting up an Independent Govt in Goa.
PM: [It would help to be specific about whom you are talking rather than making a false - and totally stupid allegation]
FALSE....your left sock! My Zip Drive will spill out WHEN the time is right! and don't think that there are only one or two folks with strange looney-bin ideas around the place!>>
I rather fear that Dr. Lunatic is really that. I strain my brains to remember any ‘pronouncement in 1998’ or whenever, of setting up an Independent Government in Goa within a specific time frame, five years or whatever, and I draw a blank. Now either I am suffering from amnesia, or Dr. Lunatic is actually a lunatic. You guess which.
I wonder what other wonders our resident lunatic harbours in his fabulous zip-drive!
Perhaps, an interview with the Abominable Snowman? Or a clip of his party with March Hare and Mad Hatter in Blunderland?
Is it that Dr. Lunatic is determined to delude himself that I am the same as some person whom he then knew, perhaps under the name, "GoaFreeman"? Your guess is as good as mine.
<<PM: [If you have a problem with Agnelo Gomes, please raise it with him: I am not his spokesman, nor he mine. Please, I beg you, stop this idiotic practice of taking potshots at Mr. Gomes when writing to me!]
I wonder where you were when common sense was being distributed! Please let me know WHERE it is in my posts that Agnelo Gomes' name appears. Please do not use Lite Logic now!
For the record, I believe that Agnelo Gomes is a good and kind hearted man who continues to do a lot for the needy & SPORTS in Goa.>>
Not only is Dr. Colaco a hypocrite, but he is also dishonest and a flagrant liar. The last time we exchanged letters, he was attacking Mr. Gomes’ messages and demanding to know why, if he is a patriot, as he claimed, that he still holds an Indian passport, despite so many years of living overseas, and has not applied for a Portuguese passport. He was so paranoid that when I mentioned my own brother Agnelo, he attacked my statement about him like a Parro sorop on the assumption that I was calling Mr. Gomes as my brother Agnelo, and it was only when I had pointed this error to him, that he apologized.
Today, of course, Dr. Hypocrite pretends that he has no problems with Mr. Gomes. Indeed.
And so, I am forced to understand that, unlike that round of letters, this time, he is taking ME to task for not applying for Portuguese citizenship when "I had the opportunity" and demands to be told when I had applied for the same.
To answer this unwarranted presumption and insinuation: I have NEVER actually applied for Portuguese citizenship. I had, it is true made inquiries but was put off by the procedures, to which I object. I made a attempt by asking a Portuguese embassy out of India but got the same response. I emailed the Portuguese government demanding that these procedures be changed, and that they recognize my right to Portuguese citizenship on the basis purely of Portuguese documents, but was stonewalled.
In the light of this, I have never actually applied or had the opportunity to apply for Portuguese citizenship. As the procedure currently stands, it is remote that I will demean myself by going according to these procedures.
This is because, for me, I do not consider myself as actually Portuguese. I merely consider that Portugal ruled us constitutionally and that they have some obligations towards us, which they have signally failed to uphold, instead of which they have compromised and betrayed us to the invaders.
I merely seek a Portuguese passport in order to travel within Europe and other parts of the world. One of my aims is to facilitate Goa’s liberation. The other intention is purely religious - I wish to meet with others of the Catholic Resistance and the Pope.
<<[PM:This why I personally refuse to apply for a Portuguese passport, atleast as long as the present system continues. My principles are more important than expediency. I would prefer to travel with my Indian passport.]
what is wrong with having a system which is trying to prevent any more Sardars or Gujratis from claiming that they are entitled to Portuguese nationality?>>
Actually, only an idiot will deny the fact that the way things are done presently, means that it is precisely the Indians who find it the easiest to get throught the process by forging papers. We Goans are strained out.
This is common knowledge in Goa. We can make as many excuses as we want for the Portuguese except admit the bitter fact that the Portuguese officials manning the ministries in Lisbon and the missions worldwide care a hoot for us, and merely misuse the sentimentalist and demeaning Portuguese legislations ‘favouring’ us Goans to make a fast buck by cooperating with Indians wanting to hustle into Europe.
<<PM: [Eventually, I intend to be holding an EIP passport.] Good luck! May be... you could Print it too! >>
God willing, I too hope so! Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to be accorded the privilege of printing the official state stationeries of Free Goa! Of course for the traitor, such an idea is preposterous and an occasion to mock the patriots. For me, however, it will be a veritable privilege, if this was awarded to me…
Prakash John Mascarenhas
Jose Colaco <[email protected]> wrote:
--- Prax Maskaren wroote:
PM: [It is my understanding that "Leah David" is a friend and acquaintance of yours - a Selma Cardoso.]
Dear Prakash saheb,
To be quite honest, I do NOT know if "Leah David" is or is NOT Selma Cardoso. This is the first time I have heard this association. Hence... I will bcc my reply to her.
PM:[You object to me counter-attacking your friend, and turning her own words against her. I see that as mere hypocrisy. Extraordinary indeed how you hurry to the 'innocent' defence of your just as 'innocent' friend.]
I have asked you this in the past & I will ask this again: Looking at this ABUSIVE stuff I see YOU write about people, Are you incapable of making civil conversation with anyone without calling the names you have called them?... even if you disagree with them!
Why are you referring to other women's mastectomies & callin them names like "whore and prostitute"?
And you call yourself a Christian?
SHAME ON YOU!
PM:[And that you do not care to reproach her for her extraordinary attitude, acts of omission and commission.]
Perhaps it will dawn on you that, this "other" person with whom you are having a battle, has chosen NOT TO SPAM ME with nonsense - a choice which YOU too could have exercised!
*****APOLOGIES TO ALL WHO GET COPIES OF THIS - I am merely hitting REPLY ALL****
PM: [Let me recap: Your friend wrote attacking me, by name, on a list of which I am not a member, and where I have not posted my writings. This is extraordinary etiquette. But this is not the end of it.]
Please read above re: YOUR own extraordinary SPAMMING etiquette
PM: [You are well aware that I have had occasion to disagree and disagree sharply, with many of your articles, and even feature articles by others on your site. However, I have religiously informed you when I wrote an article of my own attacking any of these articles of yours.]
And I thank Almighty that you are that "religious" !
PM: [Though I now entertain strong doubts on the subject, at the time, I believed that you too would, like me, take umbrage at a procedure whereby someone attacks an article or writing, but on a different site or list altogether and without having the courtesy to bring that counter-argument to the attention of the author of the original work;]
Welcome to this world my dear Prakash Saheb!
I have ZERO problem with anybody saying anything about me anywhere!
It is a free world.
However, I will refuse to join the gutterous folk by using foul language.
You see......I am after all - a cultured Goencar !
PM: [Lastly, it is your friend who initiated this exchange by attacking me without good cause and in a base manner.]
I BEG TO DISAGREE.....as far as I can see ON MY COMPUTER, it is YOU who SPAMMED me with this JUNK!
PM: [However, let us leave this thing well alone. Already too much time has been wasted]
Good Idea....NO need to waste time on CrackPot ideas like EIP.
WOW !
Estado India Portugues!
Who are you going to get to establish this "Pie in the Sky" Loony Bin idea? Goans?
or is the Mumbaicars?
Here....listen to me ...once again!
Goans.....will talk big and FALL asleep after a Kop or Two!
Mumbai? aka Bombay.....was given away as DOWRY to the British.
Unlike Goa, the British gave Independence to Bombay as a part of India. END of STORY!
If you do NOT like India and Indian rule.....LEAVE Bombay / Mumbai and come back to your homeland... GOA!
PM: [If I understand you correctly, you wish to insinuate something or the other about my name, because it is Indian, and thus about me.]
Name? I think it is an excellent Indian name for an Indian man!
Prakash = Light ....not Lite (:-)
re: <re: pronouncement(in 1998) re setting up an Independent Govt in Goa.
PM: [It would help to be specific about whom you are talking rather than making a false - and totally stupid allegation]
FALSE....your left sock!
My Zip Drive will spill out WHEN the time is right! and don't think that there are only one or two folks with strange looney-bin ideas around the place!
re: Indian-citizen-Goans who oppose India's presence in Goa,
PM: [ If you own or plan to purchase property in Goa, which I assume most Goans do, what do your property papers say? That you are a citizen of Portugal or of India?]
As far as I know....I have ONLY ONE nationality. If I cannot purchase property in Goa as a foreign national, I will NOT!
In any event, I'd be stupid to NOW buy or RETAIN any property in Goa, even though foreign nationals are allowed to own property in Goa.
What use would that property serve? For the "Travellers" from the various Hills, to squat on it or for someone else to encroach upon it?
PM: [If you have a problem with Agnelo Gomes, please raise it with him: I am not his spokesman, nor he mine. Please, I beg you, stop this idiotic practice of taking potshots at Mr. Gomes when writing to me!]
I wonder where you were when common sense was being distributed!
Please let me know WHERE it is in my posts that Agnelo Gomes' name appears.
Please do not use Lite Logic now!
For the record, I believe that Agnelo Gomes is a good and kind hearted man who continues to do a lot for the needy & SPORTS in Goa.
[This why I personally refuse to apply for a Portuguese passport, atleast as long as the present system continues. My principles are more important than expediency. I would prefer to travel with my Indian passport.]
what is wrong with having a system which is trying to prevent any more Sardars or Gujratis from claiming that they are entitled to Portuguese nationality?
PM: [Eventually, I intend to be holding an EIP passport.]
Good luck!
May be.....you could Print it too!
jose
From: Prax Maskaren
Date: Sun Jun 8, 2003
Subject: Re: The Brave & The Effeminate
Dotore-Bab, <<BTW: re: Leah David (I do not know the individual), WHY do you persist in calling her names and commenting on personal matters re:her?
Is it the policy of these BRAVE Goa-Free folks to call people names IF they disagree with your view point?
What happened? Are you not able to debate a point and articulate your point of view without being abusive?
If that is HOW you folks will "govern" Goa after it becomes "Indepedent" from India, please note that I will be happy that I migrated from Goa many years ago & later regained my Portuguese nationality.>>
It is my understanding that "Leah David" is a friend and acquaintance of yours - a Selma Cardoso.
You object to me counter-attacking your friend, and turning her own words against her. I see that as mere hypocrisy.
Extraordinary indeed how you hurry to the 'innocent' defence of your just as 'innocent' friend.
And that you do not care to reproach her for her extraordinary attitude, acts of omission and commission.
Let me recap: Your friend wrote attacking me, by name, on a list of which I am not a member, and where I have not posted my writings.
This is extraordinary etiquette. But this is not the end of it.
Your friend makes loose talk, immodest talk, offering the public, on a public forum, a peek at her panties. And then objects that I naturally enough call her a whore.
If she is not a whore, what is she? A paragon of virtue? Do virtuous women offer the public a peek at their panties?
Of course, there are prostitutes and there are prostitutes.
In Bombay, I am familiar with the fact that girls and women from disadvantaged or conquered peoples, like from the slave nations of Nepal, ruled by the Gorkhali imperialists, are kidnapped and sold into brothels and forced to become prostitutes. By my books, these are not really prostitutes but victims of crime.
On the contrary, when someone voluntarily sells her body, then, according to my book, the Bible, she is a prostitute. And exposing one's body, one's genitals and underclothes, to the public, for the purpose of titiliation, meets my definition of prostitution.
But this is not the end of it.
Your friend demands that if I must take issue with her, I must come to the forum of her choice. Now that takes the cake. She deludes herself over her own self-importance and that I will servilely obey her commands like another of her 'chevaliers'!
Since she responded to my posts on Senhor Agnelo Gomes' GoanCauses list, she should respond there also, to give me an opportunity to learn of her protest against my post, etc. This is common courtesy, among civilized people.
Apparently enough, she did not join GoanCauses at my invitation. Apparently enough, she is a member of GoanCauses (a fact which I have verified), and has been so from who knows when, long before my recent post there to which she objected, while I am NOT a member of Goacom, nor have any reason to prostitute myself before anti-Goans to join that list.
But your friend believes that she is dispensed from such humdrum responsibilities, that she can depend upon her 'chevaliers' to be at her beck and call! (I should hate it very much if you too were one of her chevaliers. Low though my esteem for you has reached, I would hate to see it extinguished entirely).
But of course, none of these extraordinary things by your friend scandalizes you. What does scandalize you is that I should retaliate against her smear campaign in kind.
You are well aware that I have had occasion to disagree and disagree sharply, with many of your articles, and even feature articles by others on your site.
However, I have religiously informed you when I wrote an article of my own attacking any of these articles of yours. I do not know about you, for I have not as yet thought it fit to ask, assuming that you were a gentleman, but I believe that this is the correct procedure: When someone has an issue with some feature article on a site, he should bring his own counter-article to the attentin of the host of that site; If objecting to a post, he should answer to or notify the author of that post, giving opportunity to him/her.
Though I now entertain strong doubts on the subject, at the time, I believed that you too would, like me, take umbrage at a procedure whereby someone attacks an article or writing, but on a different site or list altogether and without having the courtesy to bring that counter-argument to the attention of the author of the original work; that you should learn of this counter-argument either by pure accident at some much later date, or due to some friend who happens to alert you.
However, it seems that your 'lady' friend is so spoiled by her pantyworshippers who court her slavishly, that she expect the same service from even me! That delusion is her problem, not mine. Let the worshippers of her panties worship her panties; I have no intention whatsoever to do a Smutwati Deviji ki aarati...
I have no intention whatsoever of doing any commerce with any whore, nor of paying a visit to her court. If she desires to exchange words with me, let her come to where she first found my posts which she found objectionable, and debate with me there. (I do not ask her to debate with me in a forum that I have created or moderate.) That is the proper way, and I will not compromise on it.
Lastly, it is your friend who initiated this exchange by attacking me without good cause and in a base manner. It is never the privilege of the wrongdoer to end the exchange that results, but that of the victim. I will cease this only when I receive a sincere apology. At the moment, that prospect is improbable, for your friend seems to entertain the notion that she is righteous and justified.
However, let us leave this thing well alone. Already too much time has been wasted on a common street whore.
But I await your clarification to the insinuation that you raised about my name.
If I understand you correctly, you wish to insinuate something or the other about my name, because it is Indian, and thus about me. I have asked you to clarify, but with the usual charming rodentlike behaviour when faced with a flashlight, you choose to make for the underground.
Do not worry, I have no intention whatsoever of devouring you.
So, can I expect a reply? Or is it too much to expect?
Or are you also just as 'honourable' as your esteemable friend?
[Since you have no intention of being a citizen of a free Goa, being content with Portuguese citizenship, it should not concern you how we will or will not govern.
I will be brutally frank - those who collaborate with the occupation, justify it, defend it, and are in general traitors will certainly know a strict reckoning when Goa regains her freedom, if I have any part in it... I am neither a pacifist nor a milquetoast. I believe in justice and order and that subversive elements must be reformed or exterminated in order to protect society.]
<<It was about 4 years ago that the good GoaFreeman made a 5 year pronouncement re setting up an Independent Govt in Goa. So D-Day must be in 2004!>>
It would help to be specific about whom you are talking rather than making a false - and totally stupid allegation - that it was me that made a statement to that effect. I have never set a date for my work to commence or fructify, and I challenge you to prove your words that I ever did, whether now or ever in the past five years.
<<I'd say to those Indian-citizen-Goans who oppose India's presence in Goa, look at your Indian passport again & see what it says.
Remember too... you applied for your passport... NOT Me!>>
I may be dense, but the last time you had raised this same nonsensical issue about passports and I had answered it. Yet you persist on raising it. If you had a difficulty with my counter-arguments then, you should have continued with the issue then, pointing out the falacities in them at the time.
But, let me ask you: If you own or plan to purchase property in Goa, which I assume most Goans do, what do your property papers say? That you are a citizen of Portugal or of India?
I am dying to know.
<<Better still, give it up - especially those who are in a position to obtain alter-nationality.
Even better is.....do tell us WHEN you registered your protest to India's presence in Goa by renouncing your Indian nationality and applying for.. say Portuguese.>>
Dotore-bab, you have the bad habit of answering another man when I write you, instead of answering me and my points. That is bad, and a sign that a man is losing the argument, that he is forced to pull in extraneous matters. If you have a problem with Agnelo Gomes, please raise it with him: I am not his spokesman, nor he mine. Please, I beg you, stop this idiotic practice of taking potshots at Mr. Gomes when writing to me!
A Goan applying for and gaining a Portuguese passport is not proof of his love or patriotism for Goa. Many Goans are merely doing that to benefit economically. And no self respecting patriot will assent to the procedure imposed by Portugal today - that we furnish Indian "Goan" papers, thus forcing us to tacitly legitimize the Occupation!
This why I personally refuse to apply for a Portuguese passport, atleast as long as the present system continues. My principles are more important than expediency. I would prefer to travel with my Indian passport.
Holding an Indian passport is not an admission of India's claim. It is merely taking advantage of India's false claim to own Goa - therefore, Goan citizens are, by Indian law, Indian citizens.
As a Goan, I am therefore entitled to take all the privileges, such as I can have, of an Indian passport, without tendering my loyalties to India, to which I have no moral or legal obligations.
<<Then, you can decide for yourselves WHO it is WHO ARE the yellow-bellies who say "Enslave us if you want, but give us a PIECE OF PAPER aka passport. PIECE OF PAPER at any cost!">>
Honestly, I do not have an exact idea of what you are insinuating here. However, I have an idea. I have no desire to gain a Portuguese passport merely for the sake of gaining it. For me, any foreign passport will do fine, it it will enable me to travel to Europe and other places in order to network with other likeminded persons, like the Moluccans in the Netherlands, the IRA and RIRA, the ETA, the Corsicans, etc. I am being honest, for I have nothing to hide.
Eventually, I intend to be holding an EIP passport.
Prakash John Mascarenhas