on-reflection-digest Thursday, August 19 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1826 non gg: Jethro Tull Re: non gg: Jethro Tull gg: Tull in Guitar World gg: Fw: DGM NEWS Mailing #2 gg: Is 'Rock n' Roll' dead? Or is it just fading away? gg: tRe: vor Rabin (or Rabid Tremors?) gg: RE: Butcher cover Re: gg: re: GG:coming soon to a record shop near you? Re: nogg: Urges for Ursula Re: gg: Tull in Guitar World Re: gg: Is 'Rock n' Roll' dead? Or is it just fading away? gg: Amoeba; overdums; collector's items; Can't Buy a Thrill; Derek's parts gg: Re: Re: stuff&nonsense gg: Re: resubbing gg: Laugh! it was like a the Lemon Song. gg: Eeh thee's a right clutterbuck. gg: Other places. Re: gg: RE: New Tull Re: gg: stuff&nonsense Re: gg: Other places. gg: Ursula; Gone mp3s; b3 tour; Putumayo Re: gg: Amoeba; overdums; collector's items; Can't Buy a Thrill;Derek's parts Re: gg: Ursula; Gone mp3s; b3 tour; Putumayo gg: No GG: rest rooms RE: gg: HTM gg: Freedom of expression, slight return gg: Sky Re: non gg: Jethro Tull Re: gg: Is 'Rock n' Roll' dead? Or is it just fading away? Re: nogg: I speak well english two Re: gg: Other places. gg: FWD: Dale (Ladouceur) "Scores" Off Broadway (NYC) gg: Controversial Covers gg: Real men... gg: Geordie thread -- Jez Lowe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:33:56 -0400 From: "Kevin Mather" Subject: non gg: Jethro Tull On the subject of tull, who here likes A Passion Play? This album is their most progressive by far. Like Thick as a Brick, there is only one song on the album. The use of dissonance on this album is great. This album might have never been composed if a particular recording studio in France had been more to Ian Anderson's liking. Tull went into this studioin early 73 to record an album. Ian had a bunch of music written for it. When the studio proved to be more trouble then Tull was used to, they abandon it, along with the music they had compesed. Returning to their home base in England, they proceeded to write and record new material and abandoned most of what they had planned to use on this new album. In the end, A Passion Play was born. You can hear some of the material that was recorded in the French studio on Tull's 3 CD box set. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:21:54 EDT From: MogulHespa@aol.com Subject: Re: non gg: Jethro Tull kevmath@freewwweb.com writes: << On the subject of tull, who here likes A Passion Play? This album is their most progressive by far. Like Thick as a Brick, there is only one song on the album. The use of dissonance on this album is great. >> Uh oh, don't get me started!! A Passion Play is an epic masterpiece. For an album that was "hastily recorded" after giving up on the "Chateau D'Isaster" (Ian's name for the aforementioned French chateau/recording studio), the part writing is incredibly precise, and the texture of the instruments is very thoughtfully planned. The most amazing thing to me is that the lyrics seem to be delightfully inspired nonsense when one reads them a line or two at a time, yet taken overall they somehow tell a tale of death, rebirth, and visits to the afterlife . . . both Heaven and Hell. Incidentally, this tale was to be the subject of a movie the next year, for which John Cleese was hired as Humour Consultant, or some similar title . . . the director dragged his feet on the production, so the band moved on, and the movie was never made. Its title was to be "War Child," which became the next Jethro Tull album. Fans of Three Friends, the GG album released the same year as A Passion Play, will find many similarities in sound and texture between these two albums. Right from the start, the instrumental introductions are similar in many ways! RECOMMENDATION OF THE WEEK! Thanks for your time -- I didn't ramble on as much as I could have! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:26:39 EDT From: MogulHespa@aol.com Subject: gg: Tull in Guitar World Oh, and for those who are interested, this month's issue of Guitar World magazine features a big (supposedly) interview with Ian Anderson and Martin Barre, in which they discuss and rate ALL of their albums. I'm going to pick one up in about an hour, so if turns out not to be worth the purchase I'll let you know. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:35:57 +0100 From: "Gifford" Subject: gg: Fw: DGM NEWS Mailing #2 Just incase anybody's missed this........... >DGM NEWS Mailing List >Mailing #2 >August 17th, 1999 > >BIG NEWS!! >KING CRIMSON LIVE IN MEXICO CITY DOWNLOAD!! > >All Disciplinarians(!) who have been awaiting the release of King Crimson >Live in Mexico City can now download it from the DGM website at >http://license.keyconnect.com/wm/dgm/. Go there today! It's free for a >limited time only and will not be available in any other format. > >DGM has entered into a strategic relationship with Microsoft to launch >BootlegTV.com, which starting November will offer concerts online on a pay >per view basis. All the new KC shows, plus archives, will be available for >download. Full news about BootlegTV.com can be found at the above URL, and >in the press release at >http://www.disciplineglobalmobile.com/dgmlive/press.html. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:21:40 PDT From: "Mark Wendt - MTO" Subject: gg: Is 'Rock n' Roll' dead? Or is it just fading away? Re: Mom's Apple Pie and such one member wrote "That's (what) Rock n' Roll" is all about!" That is like saying that popcorn is what movies are all about. Although a *lot* of moviegoers eat popcorn - so much so that there is always *someone* in the croud eating popcorn - popcorn itself is just a tangential element of the moviegoing experience. And although a "majority" of moviegoers tend to enjoy popcorn, the real *event* is something else - something else that can and is enjoyed even by people who loathe popcorn. My point is that the real *draw* of a film is something far more universal in appeal. Rock n' Roll is about many things. If I had to pick one description, I'd say it is "about" providing a soundtrack to the adventures, escapades, travails, and political interests of teenagers. Of course this definition is such that it will never "die" as long as there are teenagers who love music. I thought I might get "bonus points" for that! ;-) Now - before you complain that this definition is lacking in "musical" content - consider that the term 'Rock and Roll' weathered about 40 years of changes in popular music as somewhat of a musical chameleon. I remember thinking to myself, "Rock and roll will never die" because such a wide variety of mismatched styles of music - (as long as it has a strong beat) can be called "Rock and Roll". QUESTION OF THE DAY: In the current context of market segmentation, will Rock and Roll soon become a term used mainly to describe "oldies"? Are we already experiencing this? Ska, Rap, whatever the segmented terms are today - - have they succeeded in defining themselves to their target market so well as to relegate the generalist term "Rock and Roll" to a position of relative insignificance? As recent as the late 1980's I could walk into an American college classroom and ask them "How many of you like Rock and Roll music?" A majority of the students would reply that they did - even if they *were* actually expressing their affinity for a variety of competing styles that fell under the very general term "RnR". Would this happen today or would they reply something mroe like... "Not really. I'm into *alternative* rock" "That old stuff? No way! Hip-Hop! Ska!" "Rave is where its at..." or any other number of negative responses to the term "Rock n' Roll". In other words... Is 'Rock and Roll' about to die? Or is it just "fading away"? What's Your Opinion? MTO! :-) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:37:08 -0500 From: DE Johnson Subject: gg: tRe: vor Rabin (or Rabid Tremors?) JohnEric wrote: >I have to come to Rabin's defense here. I like the man's work within and >without Yes. Frankly, I have a tough time with Howe in nearly everything >he's done since Close to the Edge. While everyone else in this group >seems to be applying the word POP to Rabin's Yes work, I prefere to call >it a refreshing oil change long over due! Although I don't care for Rabin's structural/harmonic ideas very much, but his ears are pretty darned incredible. There aren't too many in the biz who have this kind of sense about sound, IMSNSHO. Doug "Putting the emphasis on bubble gum films is like strip mining: in the short run profitable, in the long run terribly wasteful and, ultimately, poor business." Gene Lees ("the lees side" May '70) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:02:48 -0600 From: Jeff Smith Subject: gg: RE: Butcher cover >>I believe that "BUTCHER BABIES"? Beatles cover is worth a lot >>of money. >> >At one time it was worth $200 in Portland, when I worked for a >short time at the used record store. I don't think it's that >valuable anymore. Guess again. There was one on ebay recently that went for $301 and this was one that had the new cover applied over it. (http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=144382273) One with the original cover showing would go for more because people routinely pay more that an items worth on ebay. I was bidding on a 1978 Genesis concert CD until the bidding got over $40 - it eventually went for $73. The problem is, you're bidding against the world, and that's a pretty big audience to compete with. NP: Arthur's copy of Liquid Tension Experiment (s/t) Jeff Smith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:25:27 +0000 From: Diana Green Subject: Re: gg: re: GG:coming soon to a record shop near you? hail; re: "David J. Loftus" wrote: And somebody assured me Godley & Creme's _L_ was once issued on CD, but > I've never seen it. (I have CDs of "Ismism/Snack Attack" and "Freeze > Frame.") Bring that one back, please. I have seen but unwisely not purchased L as a used CD. Apparently all the G & C cataog is out on CD at one time or another. As a sidebar, OneWay is holding a sale on some overstock and discontinued stuff, including the Hotlegs Thinks School Stinks CD, which, as we all know, is really an early 10 CC effort! still, dg np: local news ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:35:39 +0000 From: Diana Green Subject: Re: nogg: Urges for Ursula hail; re: Toby Trott wrote: > Wacky Racontuers, > > I lost who orginally said it, but he/she said: > >>I think the video version of Ursula LeGuin's the Lathe of Heaven was > the best > >>adaptation I've ever seen. that would be moi. :-) > > > > >Never read it (and she's from Portland! Sorry Ursula!) but it was > *fascinating* > >TV. - S. > > That's right, folks. Go ahead and torture me. I have never gotten to see > this and > have wanted to for absolutely ages. So, is this available on video > somewhere? There's a guy who advertises in Comics Buyer's Guide who listed it in one of his ads about 3 issues back. I have yet to order it as I'm too broke right now, but the guy's been advertising for years and I'm saving the ad. As far as LEGITIMATE releases: none that I'm aware of. still, dg np: local news ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:55:38 +0000 From: Diana Green Subject: Re: gg: Tull in Guitar World hail; re: MogulHespa@aol.com wrote: > Oh, and for those who are interested, this month's issue of Guitar World > magazine features a big (supposedly) interview with Ian Anderson and Martin > Barre, in which they discuss and rate ALL of their albums. Along the same lines, the current issue of fingerstyle guitar has a short interview and two transcriptions of Steve Howe stuff. Pretty interesting. still, dg news plays on ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:03:54 +0000 From: Diana Green Subject: Re: gg: Is 'Rock n' Roll' dead? Or is it just fading away? hail; re: Mark Wendt - MTO wrote: > QUESTION OF THE DAY: In the current context of market segmentation, will > Rock and Roll soon become a term used mainly to describe "oldies"? Are we > already experiencing this? Ska, Rap, whatever the segmented terms are today > - have they succeeded in defining themselves to their target market so well > as to relegate the generalist term "Rock and Roll" to a position of relative > insignificance? Brings to mind the bit in futurama where Fry wants to sit and listen to rap, and Bender the Robot says, "You just want to sit around and listen to classical music?" I don't think it will die, any more than jazz has died. It will come and go and have resurgences and be naively regarded as "dinosaur music" much as many of my generation blithely dismissed big band for a time. I'm just looking forward to the time when rap is perceived this way! VINDICATION! We all get our turn, and this generation's musical "revolution" is next generation's "status quo". so it goes... still, dg np: nessa Glen: Weaving the Wind as Rings ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:45:35 -0700 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: gg: Amoeba; overdums; collector's items; Can't Buy a Thrill; Derek's parts >and then got my hands dusty poring through the Amoeba Music bargain bins (total take: 10 CD's for a total of less than $60. Sounds like a wonderful, wonderful day! That's where I got the complete WB Herbie Hancock for $10 - screamin' deal. >Yes, there are overdums. I know what those are - those are when the original track was better than the attempts at correcting it! David and I were talking about the butcher block album cover: >> At one time it was worth $200 in Portland, when I worked for a short time at the used record store. I don't think it's that valuable anymore. >I remember seeing it for sale in that neighborhood -- one of those places just off 11th and Burnside, I think -- a few years back. Why do you think the value has fallen, Scott? I think the market has fallen a bit - people who want those kinds of things already have them. I could be wrong - anybody look at the ads in Goldmine lately? >I still think the best one was "Can't Buy a Thrill". That's a great one. I bought it for the sitar solo on Do It Again and wound up loving all the songs on there. >How about Ronnie Jame Dio for Derek's parts? Right on! How about Tom Waits? ;) >Well, in my mind's player, I envisioned Derek's vocals an octave lower on "Close to the Edge". Envision it. Real balls singing "Now that you find, Now that you're whole"... Well then, let's go back in time and get Gordon McRae to sing it. ;) - S. np: Firesign, Electrician (Hello, my name is Mello Jello. I am the head of the athletic department.) scottst@ohsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:24:17 +0100 From: "Ant" Subject: gg: Re: Re: stuff&nonsense - -----Original Message----- From: Gifford >Being Lincolnshire-born, I'm prepared to stand corrected on that one (or, >indeed, sit lotus-like), but I'm sure I've heard the phrase used on >"Emmerdale (Farm)". Don't get me started on Luvvie actors and their generic northern accents. Ant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:48:02 +0100 From: "Ant" Subject: gg: Re: resubbing - -----Original Message----- From: SHudson653@aol.com >Hudman here... I uns*ubbed for 1 week during my vacation >and are having problems getting back on the list. Something >about a "closed list".. Anyone know what;s up ????? Yeah we have to remotely interrogate your CD player online to see if you have been playing GG recently before you can join back up. Ant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:28:58 +0100 From: "Ant" Subject: gg: Laugh! it was like a the Lemon Song. - -----Original Message----- From: William Tindall > Or to put it another way, I may not know the difference between the Battle of Borodino and a tiger's bum, but I know what I like. Besides, you Alaskans talk funny. > >Bill "Yes, that's a lump of coal, all right" T OK while we're on national stereotypes, is it true all Americans have analysts? I should either increase the visits Bill, or stop going altogether. He's probably nuttier than you. Ant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:59:48 +0100 From: "Ant" Subject: gg: Eeh thee's a right clutterbuck. - -----Original Message----- From: Rik Beck > BTW, Ant, I reserve my original accent to entertain the likes of >you on nights out. Funny when my relatives come down, they reckon I slowly slip back into it after each pint of beer. >My posh science accent is used very sparingly. Talk with a test tube in your mouth do you? >Tangentially, for the first time ever I drove down to Italy this summer >and didn't come back with a truck-load of CDs. I suspect it could be old >age. Maybe you forgot to take the truck or you already have the entire Italian prog output in your collection. >Also, one big black cloud wrecked my view of the eclipse in Le >Havre. Sacre Bleu Monsieur! My chum Steve went to Romania to see it and got a lovely view. He also got mugged, ripped off and had to suffer water and electricity curfews. The things we do for astronomy. Trust you had a few glasses of Breton cider and heard a few bagpipes there. Ant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:27:30 +0100 From: "Ant" Subject: gg: Other places. - -----Original Message----- From: William Tindall ><> > > Wow. That's some tangential drive. You plainly live in the east. Way east Yorkshire, or North Cumberumberland. I'd heard of a road that led to Italy, but I didn't give the story much creedence. Ah well there's your problem. Creedence! yes that's it! You have to step into your wardrobe and sing 'Born on the Bayou' three times and it opens up the route to Italy via lower Cucumberland, past Banarnia and through where the Yorkshire puddings grow. Ant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:16:11 +0100 From: "Ant" Subject: Re: gg: RE: New Tull - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Klocek >If I remember correctly, Mom's Apple Pie had a picture of an apple pie (you >were expecting maybe rhubarb?) with a slice cut out. The apex of >the triangle created by the slice resembled labia. Labia? Is she one of the LaBeque sisters? Ant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:53:46 +0100 From: "Ant" Subject: Re: gg: stuff&nonsense - -----Original Message----- From: David J. Loftus RE: Yes >[I think their version of "America" sucks; right down there with Vanilla >Fudge's Beatles covers] Gadzooks! I love that. I love both versions but Steve's guitar parts on that are classic. A kind of electric country/bluegrass tinged twanging over a very British sounding backing track. BTW I read in the Guardian newspaper about the character comedian who plays John Shuttleworth and who was responsible for Gilted John and the soft boys singles, has a new character who is supposed to be a part time sociology lecturer and songwriter who's latest paper is on the relationship between prog music and the orgasm. Entitled 'yes,Yes, YES" Ant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:11:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "David J. Loftus" Subject: Re: gg: Other places. On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Ant wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: William Tindall > > > Wow. That's some tangential drive. You plainly live in the east. Way > > east Yorkshire, or North Cumberumberland. I'd heard of a road that > > led to Italy, but I didn't give the story much creedence. > > > Ah well there's your problem. Creedence! yes that's it! You have to step > into your wardrobe and sing 'Born on the Bayou' three times and it > opens up the route to Italy via lower Cucumberland, past Banarnia and > through where the Yorkshire puddings grow. I thought "Keep On Chooglin' " was the key...? Or you could sing "oh lord, stuck inna Lodi agin' " over and over and eventually someone will take you wherever you want to go just to get rid of you. David Loftus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:00:24 -0700 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: gg: Ursula; Gone mp3s; b3 tour; Putumayo >Subject: re: nogg: Urges for Ursula What about Ursula Dudziak? One could experience surges of urges for her. >Use http downloading or streaming with your usual browser. http://home.sol.no/~vijn/squeele/TRACK_5.MP3 or http://home.sol.no/~vijn/squeele/ depending on your equipment and preferences. Thanks for hosting us Mr. Veeb. Maybe we can put Tracks 6-9 on Bill Tindall's site now, if everyone is finished downloading Tracks 1-4 from there. >If Satriani, Vai & Johnson was the G3 tour, would Emo & Wakemo be the B3 tour? I like it! >Raleigh Billy n.p. Putumayo's "Cairo to Casablanca" Which of the Putumayo series do I need to purchase? - S. np: Happy the Man, Live scottst@ohsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:15:53 +0000 From: Diana Green Subject: Re: gg: Amoeba; overdums; collector's items; Can't Buy a Thrill;Derek's parts hail; re: Scott Steele wrote: Subject: Re: gg: Ursula; Gone mp3s; b3 tour; Putumayo hail; re: Scott Steele wrote: > Which of the Putumayo series do I need to purchase? - S. From the little I've heard, I'd go with the Celtic Women one. > np: Happy the Man, Live sure, rub it in... ;-) still, dg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:18:21 -0500 From: Jim Klocek Subject: gg: No GG: rest rooms <> And they usually have a nice, cushy couch for "those difficult times" :) Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:40:11 -0700 From: Aldo Ballestrasse Subject: RE: gg: HTM Hail Diana You wrote: > np: Happy the Man, Live sure, rub it in... ;-) still, dg If I understand you correctly: can get this very easily at CDNOW.com just got my copy a couple of days ago. If I understand you incorrectly please ignore me ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:47:21 +0200 From: "Jerry Bartlett" Subject: gg: Freedom of expression, slight return For those in any doubt: I made "Yanked" to be "Amercanised". Here, at least, and especially in Sweden, we spot that the American media is often quick to censor nudity, (but not violence). Jeez, am I sorry I forgot to put the irony smiley in! The reasonbly English... /Jerry Formerly in Sweden np That Joke isn't funny anymore, Smiths ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:58:20 +0200 From: "Jerry Bartlett" Subject: gg: Sky Talk of Sky and John Williams recently. Just to prove my Englishness: I share a car to work, and we play CDs on the way, cos we're guys and don't talk. Anyway, having got fed up with the Britney Spears /Spice Girls compliation, the third guy, decided to bring his "old TV film themes of the sixties and seventies", I can't remember the real title. The Britney fan got the point, and responded with his "Best of Sky", most of which I quite enjoyed, with tracks culled from their imaginatively entitled Sky 1, Sky 2, etc. The juxtaposition reminded me of the time I saw a gig at the (jazz pub) Bull's Head in Barnes, with Herbie Flowers, and Ron Asprey, among others. Well, they did a really sparkling rendition of the theme to "Sportsnight with Coleman". I had this idea that JW and co could reform and, instead of doing classical rehashes, they could do the aforementioned number, "Match of the Day", "Pot Black", "Horse of the Year Show", etc. Following in their tradition of naming the albums, they'd have to call it Sky Sports. /Jerry Formerly in Sweden ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:12:54 -0400 From: "drj_saro" Subject: Re: non gg: Jethro Tull >this new album. In the end, A Passion Play was born. You >can hear some of the material that was recorded in the French >studio on Tull's 3 CD box set. > > or you can hear _all_ of it on disc one of "Nightcap"! thank you for your time and attention. Julius J. SAROKA drj_saro@neo.rr.com Cuyahoga Falls OHIO ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:01:05 EDT From: Claudio666@aol.com Subject: Re: gg: Is 'Rock n' Roll' dead? Or is it just fading away? In a message dated 8/18/99 9:27:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time, markwendt@hotmail.com writes: << In other words... Is 'Rock and Roll' about to die? Or is it just "fading away"? >> Not until I do. And I'm not planning to fade away or die any time soon... I agree that the whole industry has become segmented, but that's the industry's own fault. It's called "niche marketing". Rock and Roll, for me, is everything that's NOT any of the following: Rap R&B (after the 60s anyway) HipHop Country Disco (only because I get nauseous) Jazz (not including fusion) Classical/20th century orchestral anything involving prepared pianos EZ listening (not to be confused w/New Age) New Age (not to be confused with Space Music) but I WOULD include Reggae, Ska, Blues (as R&R's parent), punk, new wave, metal, thrash, alternative, space music and prog. As I have intentionally left some genres out, please feel free to join in. Claudio Acapulco (In case you were trying to find me in the phone book) n.d. Heineken n.p. Joy Division "Permanent" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:18:22 EDT From: Claudio666@aol.com Subject: Re: nogg: I speak well english two In a message dated 8/17/99 11:55:10 PM Mountain Daylight Time, xf103rep@svn.net writes: << Many of us seem to overlook the fact that not everyone in this group is a native American. >> In the spirit of political correctness, Native Americans were the ones who lived here when us whiteys got off the boats and decided that they needed to be relocated to the parts we didn't want. Do you speak Navajo? Hopi? Erie? Iriquois? Arapahoe? Anasazi? Pueblo?...No, you speak English, which originated in England and related Anglo-Saxon areas. There. I feel better now. Personally, I feel the term "yanked" is appropriate because us "Yanks" are the only ones who do it. If you know what I mean. And I applaud our O-R friends from all over the globe who endeavor to speak the most difficult language in the world. I could never begin to speak yours, and it is my loss! Claudio (working on the newly announced Nobel prize for internet use) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:19:49 EDT From: MogulHespa@aol.com Subject: Re: gg: Other places. David Loftus writes: << Or you could sing "oh lord, stuck inna Lodi agin' " over and over and eventually someone will take you wherever you want to go just to get rid of you. >> Thank you for the guffaw of the day! I needed it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:40:55 -0500 From: DE Johnson Subject: gg: FWD: Dale (Ladouceur) "Scores" Off Broadway (NYC) FYI... >From: "Stick Enterprises, Inc." >Subject: Dale "Scores" Off Broadway >To: STICKWIRE-L@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM > >Those of you in and around NYC might be interested to hear Canadian Stick >artist Dale Ladouceur perform this month in a trio as part of stage play, >"The Black Rider". Dale plays Stick during most of the performance as part >of the Devil's Robato Band. > >With her permission I'm posting her message to us with details of the event. > >All the Best, Emmett. > >------------------------ > >>Hello Emmett and Yuta, >> >>I'm going to be gigging at the NYC fringe from August 16th - 31st. The >>show is The Black Rider - Tom Waits & William S Burroughs wrote music >>for this amazing tale and when we performed it last year (to sold out >>shows and hold-overs) it was the north american debut. Now we have the >>biggest venue in NYC Fringe and we are one of only 5 plays (out of 167) >>to be written up in the Village Voice. Here are the details - just for >>your info and anyone elses you care to pass it along to. >> >>Lots of love >> >>Dale Ladouceur >> >>The Fringe gig is at the Harry Dejur Theatre in the Henry Street >>Settlement - Louis Abrons Arts Center 466 Grand at Pitt St. >> >>19th @ 4:15 pm >>22nd @ 8 pm >>25th @ 930 pm >>26th @ 4:15 pm >>27th @ 9 pm >>28th @ 12:45 pm >>29th @ 2:45 pm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:57:49 -0400 From: Casey Subject: gg: Controversial Covers > was renamed "When An Old Cricketer Leaves the Crease" with a different cover entirely (Roy with a > Cricket Bat and the rules on the back). When the CD came out it had reproductions of both covers so > it could be sold in the UK with the HQ cover and in the US with the Cricketer cover. > > ROXY MUSIC -- Country Life This cover with two semi-nude models against a backdrop of ferns was > originally sold in the US with opaque shrink wrap, it was also released with a censored cover (no > ladies just the ferns). > > PINK FLOYD -- Wish You Were Here Was originally sold in the US with opaque shrink wrap but I'm not > sure if this was censorship or some obtuse marketing gimick. > > PINK FLOYD -- A Nice Pair (first two albums as a twofer) was modified slightly to eliminate some > breasts. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but Jethro Tull's soon to be released CD Dot Com, has a (naked)Satye emblazoned with member apparent. - -- - -Casey Please visit my website at: Http://www.angelfire.com/mi/nitecap/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:07:47 -0400 (EDT) From: mammienun@webtv.net Subject: gg: Real men... eat meat. The redder the better. I was hoping for a place that serves raw kibbi or steak tartar. Maybe we should go Italian. The Wascley Wabbits can have pasta primavira while the rest have the spicy meatballs. Bert...I thought you wanted a piece of my famous sausage roll! q;^()> Will there be discussions about this obscure band, Gentle Giant, during dinner...maybe I should buy their cd...are they as good as the Stones or Spocks Beard? Later, Ez ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:39:12 EDT From: "Virginia Landgraf" Subject: gg: Geordie thread -- Jez Lowe There's a delightful song on the 1998 album by Jez Lowe and the Bad Pennies, _The Parish Notices_. He describes it as "a homesick blues, written after a solo tour of Australia in 1995: 'Had away, gan on' is a County Durham dialect expression, meaning 'get away, go on.'" Lowe's UK contact address is in Peterlee, County Durham. "Had Away, Gan On" The sky was scarred with rainbows And bruised black with April showers It was warm at Sydney Harbour Bridge But as wet as Blackpool Tower And the man with the mandolin last night Was weeping deep for Dublin As I practised basic native tongue On the French girl I was cuddling Chorus: I said Had away, gan on Why man what ya deein' Well, I wish that I was back with them That know just what I mean When I say had away, gan on The Yankee on the aeroplane said Man you're white with terror I said I much prefer the terra firma down there marra He said are you a Scotsman I said only when I'm angry He smiled and said your humour tells me you must be a Cockney (chorus) That customs man in shorts and cream Was as hairy as a carpet He said mate what's your football team I said Hartlepool United He said me father saw them play once back in '67 When he had to fake a gamy leg When they couldn't make eleven (chorus) Last night a woman said I had the style of Frank Sinatra A professor up from Wollongong Said I'd the pen of Jean-Paul Sartre And a Scotsman said me songs were shite And me accent was a scandal And the only true-born Geordies left were Sting and Johnny Handle (chorus) And if I'd have learned the songs I should I'd sing you Blaydon Races But all I know are Dylan songs And that single by Oasis I dreamed I saw old Bob last night He was drunker than a scuttle He was trying to play some slide guitar with a Newcastle Brown Ale bottle (chorus) [apologies for all the omitted internal punctuation -- it's faster to type that way, as someone undoubtedly figured out while preparing the CD booklet] Now my questions: What's a gamy leg? Who's Johnny Handle? Ginny _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ End of on-reflection-digest V1 #1826 ************************************