The Feasts

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Jewish Feasts For The Church?

In the pre-trib dispensational view, is the Jewish dispensation regarding Mosaic feasts applicable to the church? Would "Jacob's trouble" then also be applicable to the church? And if, in the pre-trib view, the timing of the rapture will be tied to the timing of the Mosaic feasts, how does that fit in with their doctrine of imminence?

Are there any scriptures or ancient Jewish sources about the Feasts that would require a pre-trib rapture?

We must be careful not to be led astray by any "traditions" or teachings of men which aren't in the Bible (Colossians 2:8, 2 Timothy 4:3-4).

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Talmud

I have two specific questions concerning the Talmud because I found a site which states: "There can be no denying, and no rabbi would deny this, that the authors of the Talmud did not believe in Jesus' messiahship or his divinity" ( http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/jesusnarr.html -- see Conclusion at bottom of page). My first question is: In your view, if the authors of the Talmud didn't believe what God taught in his word regarding who Jesus is, did they know God? "Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also" (John 8:19). My second question is: If the authors of the Talmud didn't know God, could they know what God taught in his word regarding the Mosaic feasts?

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Trumpets

RAPTURE

In the pre-trib dispensational view, is the Jewish dispensation regarding Mosaic feasts applicable to the church? Would "Jacob's trouble" then also be applicable to the church? If, in the pre-trib view, the rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets, how does that fit in with their doctrine of imminence? Are there any scriptures or ancient Jewish sources which say that the rapture will fulfill the Feast of Trumpets, or that the rapture or the Feast of Trumpets will be fulfilled before the tribulation?

"The blowing of the trumpet and the assembling of the people also appear together in First Thessalonians 4:16-17 and First Corinthians 15:51-53." I have a specific question concerning this: What is the Hebraic sense of the blowing of the trumpet and the assembling of the people also appearing together in Matthew 24:31?

LAST TRUMP

In the pre-trib dispensational view, is the Jewish dispensation regarding Mosaic feasts applicable to the church? Would "Jacob's trouble" then also be applicable to the church? If, in the pre-trib view, the last trump will sound on the Feast of Trumpets, how does that fit in with their doctrine of imminence? Are there any scriptures or ancient Jewish sources which say that "the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound" (1 Corinthians 15:52) and "the trump of God" (1 Thessalonians 4:16) will sound on the Feast Of Trumpets or will sound before the tribulation?

RESURRECTION

Because "this is simply a discussion regarding Rosh Hashana and what it means in the Hebraic sense," and "if there are specific questions concerning what has been posted, then that is fine," I have three specific questions concerning what has been posted: "The resurrection of the dead will take place on Rosh HaShanah (Talmud, Rosh HaShanah l6b)."

My first specific question is: Does the reference indicated in this statement say that the resurrection of all the dead will take place on the Feast of Trumpets, or just the resurrection of Christians?

My second and third specific questions are: If the reference indicated in this statement says the resurrection will be on the Feast of Trumpets, does it say anything regarding what Jesus' taught about the resurrection of Christians: "that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day" (John 6:40)? What is the Hebraic sense of "the last day?"

UNKNOWN HOUR

Are there any scriptures or ancient Jewish sources which say the Feast of Trumpets is "that day or hour no man knows" and that the Feast of Trumpets and the rapture can only be before the tribulation?

"Believers never said when the day of Rosh HaShanah was; they simply said, "Of that day and hour no one knows, only the Father." I have a specific question concerning this: What is the ancient Hebraic source which says this?

BATTLE TRUMPET

Does the Mosaic law regarding the sounding of trumpets apply to the church or require that the rapture be before the tribulation? In the pre-trib view, will the church be entering into battle at the rapture?

EZEKIEL 46

Does Ezekiel 46:1 say that the Feast of Trumpets is "the open door of the rapture," or that the Feast of Trumpets or the rapture can only be before the tribulation?

CORONATION

Are there any scriptures or ancient Jewish sources which say the Feast of Trumpets is "the coronation of Messiah," and that the Feast of Trumpets and the rapture can only be before the tribulation? Note that Jesus was already King at his birth (Matthew 2:2), and had already received all power in heaven and earth by the time of his resurrection (Matthew 28:18).

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"Days Of Awe"

In the pre-trib view, is the Feast of Trumpets applicable to the church but not the days between it and the Day of Atonement?

Must the rapture occur 10 years before the 2nd coming because the Feast of Trumpets occurs on the 1st day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:24) but the Day of Atonement doesn't occur until the 10th day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:27)?

Will believers be fasting for an entire year at the Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:29)? Note that instead of fasting we will be feasting at the 2nd coming (Isaiah 25:5-9).

Does Nehemiah 7:73; 8:1-2,13 say the 1st and 2nd days are one day, or that the 10 days between the Feast of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:24, 27) are not 10 days?

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Atonement

GREAT TRUMPET

Are there any scriptures or ancient Jewish sources which say that "a great sound of a trumpet" (Matthew 24:31) can only be on the Day of Atonement?

2ND COMING

See "Days Of Awe" section above.

TRIBULATION

In the pre-trib view, is the Feast of Trumpets applicable to the church but not the Day of Atonement? And must the tribulation begin 10 years after the rapture and last for only one year because the Feast of Trumpets occurs on the 1st day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:24) but the single Day of Atonement doesn't occur until the 10th day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:27)?

Does Nehemiah 7:73; 8:1-2,13 say the 1st and 2nd days are one day, or that the 10 days between the Feast of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:24, 27) are not 10 days?

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Tabernacles

MARRIAGE SUPPER

In the pre-trib view, will the marriage supper not begin until 5 years after the 2nd coming because the Day of Atonement occurs on the 10th day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:27) but the Feast of Tabernacles doesn't begin until the 15th day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:34)?

MILLENNIUM

In the pre-trib view, will the millennium not begin until 5 years after the 2nd coming because the Day of Atonement occurs on the 10th day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:27) but the Feast of Tabernacles doesn't begin until the 15th day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:34)? Note that Christ's millennial rule will begin immediately after the 2nd coming (Zechariah 14:4-9).

Will the millennium last for only 7 years because the Feast of Tabernacles lasts for only 7 days (Leviticus 23:34)? Note that Christ's millennial rule will last for 1000 years (Revelation 20:6).

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