I sent the following email to [email protected]
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I connected to newnet on dragonxzkeep... Didn't even have time to identify for my nickname. As it accepted the nick's password... I got booted off with this message:
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You have been banned from this server: Get the fuck outa here with that shit
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Closing Link: pnkroses[255.255.255.255] by irc.dragonzkeep.com (K-lined)
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* Disconnected
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First I would like to know what "shit" I supposedly did............. since I had nothing open, no messages or private messages.. no channels. I hadn't been on this network for several days.........so it couldn't have been anything I did before.. since all I did the last time I was on newnet is identify my nick and leave.. didnt' join any channels or chat while I was there for the two minutes I was there.........and second I want to make it clear that I don't appreciate getting cussed out upon connecting to any irc server... when I hadn't done anything.. was not in a channel yet and hadn't even had the time to identify for my nick name!!!!!!!
pnkroses(email address edited)
-----And I received the following reply:
The alleged `shit` which you were klined for was this....[23:54.15] <@Bouncer> [NOTICE] <pnkroses> I'm using mIRC preschool editon
complete with full sized color pictures. LMAO This message was brought to
you by the letter M and the number 6 Bouncer LMAOwhich happens to be one of the lamest things I've ever encountered on irc...
additionally I'll quote directly from the /motd of irc.dragonzkeep.com
below:- The Opers/Admins reserve the right to refuse
- service to anyone at any time for any reason
- or no reason at all, IRC is a free service
- we provide not a RIGHT.Have a nice day and stay the fuck off my server
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Jesse Solway
DragonzKeep Internet Solutions
http://www.dragonzkeep.com
=========================Now I am irritated. Cussed at twice.. this is over my version reply? Is this operator joking? LOL.. geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.. Now I have seen it all! So.. I send another email.. by now I am feeling my temper rising... cussed at and told my response is lame LOL. Well.. it's only intended to be cute, funny.. not lame. ;-) Not all of Newnet's servers check versions.. this one seems to be the only one (but I don't use Newnet much.. so there might be others that do version checking.. but NONE of them have irc operators that do Klines for a version reply.. that's just a not happening any where kind of thing!
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I send:No other network needs an on join version check.. that in my opinion is lame. You see no humor in the message there? it's not intended to go to a server... because NO OTHER servers are so stupid that they have to have a version check!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If i had done something wrong.. kline me.. kuss me out
but ..
i didn't do anything wrong.. hadn't even identified for my nick... in no channels.. and if you didn't see the humor there.. i pity you actually.... but it surely didn't deserve a get the fuck outa here message... do you think?Kill the lame version check.. it's not like you're going to catch bots or what ever you're looking for with it to begin with.. if they are gonna spam you or what ever you're trying to stop... and apparently that's just any one that wants to connect to newnet... whether or not they do anything to deserve a kline... realllllllllllllllly good policy ya know... lmao........... they don't have to connect to new net and probably won't be connected there to do what ever they are going to do! DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!
=========and receive this reply:
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Solway
To: Peggy
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [email protected]
fuck you
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Jesse Solway
DragonzKeep Internet Solutions
http://www.dragonzkeep.com
=========================Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Now I am beyond mad.. all over a version reply LOL.. I've really seen it all! so I respond to this email:
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You wrote:
fuck you=========================
You wish... but ya see.. that's just not possible across a network or from a keyboard. Parts just DON'T connect right ...cables are too short.. ports fail to open/work etc. However, if there comes a time that it does work over a keyboard or across a network, I'll keep your offer in mind.
lol
When it stops being fun........... it's time to go off line. When the power goes to yer head.. it's no longer fun.
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It'd become apparent it was a power trip this person was on.. it's about having the power to do what you want, just because you can. I would have let it drop at this point. I had planned to.. and had decided after I read the status window I wouldn't connect to Newnet again since I just don't think a "get the fuck outa here" is an appropriate kline message for any kind of kline, no matter what they have done. Since I hadn't done anything ... this was well beyond un-called for!Following morning, (really it was only hours.. the original connection attempt was around 1 in the morning) chatting on another network with another IRC operator, decide to check my email.. I get this message from a different irc operator on newnet (I removed the web page addresses in this email.. they may have likely gone to infected pages.. I didn't check but also don't want anyone clicking something to cause themself a problem on irc..
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from: [email protected]It has come to my attention that you feel that newnet servers are "LAME"
because some of us do version checks, and we are lame for doing so cause we
wont catch what we are looking for. It's quite obvious by your words how
ignorant you are about IRC. Let me just enclose a little bit of stuff here
just to prove that to you and then maybe you will shut the hell up mmmmmmk?TROJAN RESPONSE From [email protected]
(GLINED): Sexy College Girls Nude Pic And Movies »» Gee, looky there, that website is a mass trojan going around, by versioning
clients on connecting on servers, we catch them BEFORE the users get a
chance to click on that website....wow, amazing isnt it?FIREWALL 6984: Morgi *@pD9E4B87C.dip.t-dialin.net (Bottler)
Bottler clients, are useless clients that people use to tie up peoples file
sends etc, they do nothing but take up space on IRC servers that would be
better suited to REAL live users.FIREWALL 2422: Flock06 *@h44n2fls32o811.telia.com (IROffer)
Hmmm, IRoffer, these clients are hacked machines that are used to transfer
warez to others, while im not against warez I am against machines being
hacked for the purpose of warez.So, next time before you open your big fucking mouth, KNOW WHAT THE FUCK
your talking about...mmmmmmk :)====
Now I am beyond mad.. Temper at the high level.. Again the language in this email leaves alot to be desired. The only facts this irc operator has right is that I had said I thought it was lame to do an on join version check on a server. The rest is irrevalvent.. didn't apply to this situation or kline.. and I sat there wondering why he'd emailed me that crap LOL.. infected web pages and copy and pasted Glines.... LOL But temper flaring.. after being cussed at and klined .. and told I was ignorant.. which might be true, but I'm not so ignorant that I will put up with abuse like this.... or let some irc operator get by with talking to me like these two have.. this many times in the space of about six hours..I replied:
I have seen bottler bot.. you DON'T HAVE TO DO A VERSION CHECK on join on connect to detect that bot. I am not that stupid.. lmao. I also think its pretty lame to use your foul language.. just like the other what ever his name is seems to feel a need to do also. Get a life.. power has gone to your head!
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and received:
from [email protected]
Power has gone to my head? I just proved as to WHY we do version checks,
and you still think we dont need to do VERSION checking to detect that bot?
are you stupid? must be, cause thats the ONLY way to check for that bot,
also IROFFER and the website trojan I showed you....again you have no clue
wtf your talking about, stop being stupid and learn to admit your fucking
wrong and learn also that as stated before regardless of what we do with
version checks, we can kline you off our server for any or no reason see fit.Replied:
You didn't prove anything. you showed me garbage i won't click on lol.. why should I trust it? I have seen the bottler bots... if I was running a bot would I bother having a registered nickname? Do you even have a clue what was said and what the issue started as in any event? Is it your policy to use "get the fuck outa here" as a kline message? If it isn't.. maybe you need to talk to that other op.. since this did NOT involve you.. I don't take that garbage in real time and I surely will not take it online... from anyone. The power has gone to your head. I don't care about any kline.. it wasn't only the stupidity of the kline that was an issue... so as far as being "wrong" LOL.. I am not in the wrong. I didn't do anything wrong.. I don't have any bots.. My version reply sent.. not a hacked client not any bullshit running with in the client.. as in I am trojan free... but I won't let this drop because I don't let people tell me "fuck you" in an email.. because they are an irc op.. or to "get the fuck outa here" because they are an irc op. Not happening.. today tomorrow or any other day in this lifetime.
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Recieved: from [email protected]Actually it does involved me since I am the co-admin on the server you were
klined on.
Secondly, I hope u didnt click on that URL, it does contain a nasty trojan,
I am glad to see you have enough sense to NOT open it after I stated it was
a trojan in the email...duhand as I stated, we have to the right to kline anyone from our server for
ANY reason we want, or no reason at all, we can say what ever we want in
the kline msg, this is not a power trip, its our server, its not yours, irc
is NOT a right, you dont have RIGHTS to use our server, etc, we allow u too
to be nice.personally your pretty damn stupid from what I can tell, you keep coming up
with bullshit that has nothing to do with this, I was stating WHY we do
version request, and gave u 3 VERY valid reasons, wether you choose to
believe it or not is up to you, but remember we have been doing this for
MANY years, we know about trojans, xdcc's, bottlers, etc etc we actually do
have a clue to what we are doing, and having you telling us that we dont is
just funny and shows just how stupid u r.=======
replied:
You are pretty clueless... obviously you don't have any idea what was said.. what had originally happened etc. Doesn't matter to me a bit about a kline, like I previously said. I know I did nothing wrong. The other irc op is one complete with attitude (not a good one.. but that's beside the point) and is obviously hellbent on doing anything and everything that no other networks would do to users for a version reply lol. (that is what this is about... it is about a version reply.. but I don't think you were told that... ) In the first email, I was told it was .. quoting here "the lamest thing I have seen on irc" LOL.. okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk... hmmm.. That's why I said the onconnect version check is pretty lame in my opinion. No other networks.. and I have tried alot of them since 1994 when I first started using irc... do version checks on connect to a server. Only part of newnet servers do it.. which also makes no sense. If it is soooooo immensely important to do it.. then all of them would be doin it. (I'd think anyway)
However.. many people will like to see how you both behaved I am sure.. and I will be posting all this bullshit on a web page LOL... just for your advertising (or not) benefit.... and I'll submit to the search engines after it's posted.. with the topic of irc help or something like that.. so people can see how helpful or not your network is/has been.... and decide if it is really worth all this foul language and attitude to connect there. Aside from it not connecting very good.. many connection problems... this show of 'personality' (or not) of irc ops there might make people think twice before they want to go there. (which brings to mind.. if it connected to the selected server to start with... I wouldn't have been using a random server and likely wouldn't have had to connect to your server LOL.. not my fault it brought yours up at random to attempt to connect to. LOL)
You don't own the world just because you are an irc op lmao. What was said has everything to do with this. Obviously someone didn't want to show you the other two emails that he sent before you got into the middle of this for whatever reason.. and for what ever it's worth.. other irc ops that I know have seen the version reply which was the supposed problem.. and thought it was funny! Not offensive.. just humorous. And it's also been in my mirc remotes since 1994 or 1995 when I first started using mirc... and I have NO plans of removing it because it's nothing bad or offensive.. won't infect any one's computer..unless it's allergic to a giggle and if the person running the computer is too much a stuffed shirt to see the humor and smile... sends no spam address or anything that bothers anyone's system.. doesn't ask them to click some link to go get infected with what ever is there.. doesn't want to know if you want to see my web cam or think you need a bigger penis lol.... It does nothing except exist and it'll continue to be there... until someone triggers it. (which isn't that often.. but happens once in a while.. triggered by someone else.. lol.. ) Next I should take up server/mind reading so I can guess into the future when someone/some server might trigger one of my remotes (which are probably there for some purpose or another.. doh)
When it stops being fun and you have to treat people like dirt... because the power goes to your head.. and because you just can.. it's time to find another hobby...offline. That's my suggestion to you. Find another hobby or improve your people skills because they severely lack! I am not even sure if you have any after these emails LOL.. Klines are normally used (on every other network.. and every other server I have connected to since 1994... and that's way too many to count or keep track of LOL) when there's a reason.. not just because it strikes a fancy and because you can do it.
The users make your network.. with out them you have no network.
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Received: from [email protected]User like you are not wanted on our server, live with it and fuck off.
At 12:47 AM 5/5/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>You are pretty clueless... obviously you don't have any idea what was=====
replied:
irc op like you not wanted any where LOL.. but ya ain't heard the last of this yet... I know you answer to someone else.. and those you answer to will also be aware of the other ops and your abuse of power... Do I also need to quote to you newnet's policy about abusive ops? LOL..======
Received: from [email protected]There is nothing abusive about remoing you from our server, get lost lamer
At 07:29 AM 5/5/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>irc op like you not wanted any where LOL.. but ya ain't heard the last of
>this yet... I know you answer to someone else..
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received: from [email protected]yawn, your boring me, I dont care WHAT the reason was you were klined it,
it was on our server, we dont have to give a REASON to even kline you, its
not your RIGHT to use our irc server, and if I find anywhere that this has
been posted to a website I will go straight to your ISP for harrassment
becauses its against their policy. Other than that, get over it already im
sick of your stupidity.I explained WHY we version clients on connect, not my problem if you don't
like it, its real simple, dont use our server and u wont get
versioned....DUH.....remember it is OUR server, not yours.
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replied:LMAO @ harrassment!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can AND WILL post what ever I want to, to any web site that I have that access to.. whether or not you like it. It's called freedom of speech and is my constitutional RIGHT!
So report me to any one you want.. You wrote what I will be posting.. it's nothing I have made up or invented.. so legally I don't see that you have any footing.... quite simply you don't! (ever heard... you made your bed now you lay in it? Well ya did that.. so you deal with it!)
I needed a good laugh first thing in the early morning LOL.. makes me glad I checked my email.. cause I got a good laugh right away LOL
your address will be filtered straight into the trashed mail from here on though.. I'm not wasting any more time reading/responding to any more of your crap LOL.. however it's been pretty funny reading the last two days. LOL..
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received: from [email protected]Thats quite nice, but lemmie fine anything about me on a website posted by
you, and I will goto your isp, its against their policies, so I would think
twice before doing that :) have a nice day.
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if it is not offensive ... it is not against any policy. They won't close my account or force me to take down any pages.. LOL.. that I know for sure.. Granted your language did suck in every one of the emails.. I'll edit out one letter of those words with a ! and it's still gonna be more than apparent what you typed.
They don't limit what can and cannot be posted on web space they provide.. and lucky you I have six web page spaces... it can and will be all over the place lmao... on each page so it'll be easy to find. I'll even send you the addresses after they are up and running.. lol.. ya see how scared I am about it? NOT! Haven't figured out yet that you don't scare me and I am not pushed around easily by idiots online? You should have minded yer own business... and ya also shoulda looked at ALL the facts. But.. ya didn't. Would have been much different if you had ALL of the facts not just the ones you chose to see.. before you jumped into something that was not your business.
Since I forgot to set the filter to auto delete your garbage.. I am doin that now.. as this goes out. Don't bother replying... it'll just go into the trash.. auto delete LOL.. and unseen. which is what I should have done with everything you sent but it'll make more interesting reading.. on a web page.. not to mention it's also is pretty funny.=====
received one final email (which I won't bother to respond to LOL.. even though this has been so much fun this week LOL (or not!) This one was in my online email, which didn't have a filter set, and was recieved because I hadn't set a filter on the Comcast home page to block this email address.
received:
Three words for you: FUCK OFF CUNT.
At 10:53 AM 5/6/2003 -0600, you wrote:
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>if it is not offensive ... it is not against any policy. They won't
>close my account or force me to take down any pages.. LOL.. that