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hello,
I was over at Jay and Marc's site and started checking links. I got to
"Pink Nun" and thought, well, here will be a couple guys with some issues
or maybe a prank site or...
Well, I don't know what is going on at your site?? I liked the movie and
book reviews. I kept looking for jokes and sarcasm but there just seems
to be a lot of kindless and caring. The photos are cool too.
thanks
-Bill ----February 26, 2006
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H'lo,
Saw a link to your site froim a page about a documentary about Christian rock of which I'm pitching a review to an editor of mine. So, you're in Why Shuld The Devil Have All The Good Music, eh? If so, good for you. I look forward to seeing you on video.
Anyway, per subject line, my idea is that you should record a bunch of your little poems to somew grindcore or hardcore and include a cover of Larry Norman's "Why Don't You Look Into Jesus," if only to hear you sing or recite its classic line that's germsae to your cause, "Gonorrhea on Valentine's Day/you're still looking for the perfect lay" Or maybe you could record your verse with kind of acoustic hardcore thing like that '80s band Artless Entanglement. In any case, once you do, you should send copies of your work to both Little Steven Van Zant for his Underground Garage radio show (the good money says he wouldn't play it, but he could stand exposure to your work;I love the music he plays and his grasp on popular culture history, but he espouses some rather crap philosophy) and Dr. Demento for his radio show (interviewed him a while back, and he will play things by Christian acts if the matreial's edgy enough).
Of course, you sghould send me a copy of whatever you record, too, sop I can review it in one of the places where I freelance.
Liked much else abot your site. Keep up the good work, and next I'm in Chicago, it'd be a hoot to meet you in person.
Agape,
Mr. Jamie Lee Rake
January 25, 2006
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Dear PinkNun,
I heard rumor you weren't coming to the fest in '06. Hope it isn't true....
Blessings,
Jon & Carol
----January 12, 2006
(It's TRUE. I'm Not going.)
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Hey Pink Nun, Thought you might like to check out www.nunsagainstporn.com
Thanks,
XXXchurch.com --December 22, 2005
(I did check it out and didn't like it. A little trite and overdone.)
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I so admire your courage and creativity to engage your generation with such a counter-cultural message as promoting chastity.
Sally, ---November 4, 2005
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I would like to see you sell/market your stuff on your web site at trade fairs and get it out to the public.. I thk it has the potential to make u a nice living, make people smile, and spread a little love.
thanks again .. u are perfect.. John
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Man, I knew I shouldn't click on that link from Fluevog's site. I agree
with your assertion that the media over-(hetero)sexualizes women, and that
this contributes to a lot of insecurity, pain, and even promotes violence.
However, I find your ideas about how to combat this state of affairs
seriously misguided.
Vandalism, cheeky t-shirts, and a bizarre
reinvigoration of medieval ideals of bodily purity and pollution? Ouch.
Sounds like you need to get laid, sister. Ahem, I mean, do some "hands-on
research." It's not the sex that's dirty: it's all the ideas, like yours,
that guilty & conflicted people heap onto it, that make it stink. Your
project (and entire web site) has an awful lot in common with the mores of
the mainstream media you purport to detest.
Marie -Sept. 12, 2005
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I looked at the Pink Nun shoe and loved it.
I wanted to buy it and then I clicked on the website. I have been involved with sex education and activism for years and while I know that I can agree with the Pink Nun on the idea that sexual activity is a choice and not something that someone should ever have to do, I find the emphasis on marriage as the only place for sexuality and censoring "offensive" material as highly problematic and upsetting. I don't feel that a shoe store is the place to be upholding these kinds of moral jugements and as cute as the Pink Nun shoe is, I can't wear it when I know the judgements that the inspiration makes on people and when it makes someone like me feel unwelcome in a Fluevog store.
She is an artist and can express her values as she likes; however, I also express my values through where I choose to spend my money. I had been planning to buy two new pairs of Fluevogs for my fall wardrobe, which would have been at least three hundred dollars and I will now spend that money elsewhere.
I am very sad about this and I thank you for the years of fun I had with my Fluevogs.
All best,
Jessica 8/29/05
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hey saw you at Cornerstone, i agree w/ all your ideas about purity, but some of the stuff is just freaky, like the posters and the underwear, i guess if it actually helps kids but....im not sure how effective it can be, just cus of the strangness, pls dont think im bashing you, im just kinda weirded out
Monday, July 11, 2005
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Dear Pink Nun,
I happened to be looking at Chicago�s website and came across a link to your own site. Thinking at first, I had stumbled upon a cross-dressing performance piece that was intent on mocking Christianity in general, and sexual purity in particular, I was greatly surprised to find that you are a crusader for virginity in earnest.
I think you would greatly appreciate a book I read recently, �A Return to Modesty� by Wendy Shalit. Shalit is a conservative jewish intellectual who has a lot of things to say in defense of feminine modesty � and purity.. Her argument is different from many other proponents of abstinence, in that she doesn�t root her argument in scripture or prudish clich�s. She cites sources as diverse as feminists, philosophers and Cosmo. The book is something that has really helped me out as a 19 year old art student. It is extremely challenging to attend a college where everyone around me is practicing sexual promiscuity or believing it to be desirable.
Making any kind of statement that one holds views of the contrary are met with looks of distrust. Am I a bigot? Am I a brainwashed and repressed bible nut that is judging everyone else?
The truth is - I�m still figuring things out. I�m not sure what I believe about ultimately about God, or anything else. But I know somehow that saving myself until, if ever, I meet the right person is right for me. I�d be interested to hear your account of how being a student yourself in the arts at Chicago influenced the creation of your alter ego.
Sincerely,
Kissmekate
P.S. I�m still vacillating about clicking the �Send� button � a small part of me can�t decide if this is an elaborate ruse of some guy who reads these e-mails and testimonials with his nihilist friends afterwards and laughs his butt off at the suffering of the poor, brainwashed and virginal. However, as I squint at your picture, it appears to be a woman�s face in that habit. Who knows???
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Subject : but what about spiritual gay crossdressers????
We can't even think of marrage, cause of jerks like BUSH! And i do want a LTR with a drug n diseaes free spiritual man. Im just tired of being alone. chris
April 25, 2005
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Greeting in the name of our Lord Christ Jesus!
Just wanted to drop a note to let you know that this coming weekend my
dear wife (Betty Jo) will be speaking to a group of young people at
FireUp (fireup.org) in Marquette, MI. Her presentation is on "modesty and
purity" She will have copies of your wonderful "Purity Promise" on the
table, if anyone should feel like taking one. Thanks to great ministries
like yours, this topic has been snatched from the hands of those many
lame ones that not only want people to stay pure but wear dresses and
head coverings too :-]
Lord willing we will get a chance to meet in person at C-Stone this year,
of course you are a little easier to find there then we are.
Jesus bless,
J:?D
March 28, 2005
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hey there pink,
was surfin' thru the net from the "vivalarevolution" site and was blown away by the whole thing here at the pink nun!!!�� frickin' awesome!
...new generations require new approaches.�� your style and consistency is an awesome�product.�� your ministry is killer!��� -Ron -3/05
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Subject : lol to you
hey there.
i saw your pink nun site and found it to be interesting and funny. it's hard to take the site seriously, but the topic is very serious and something that means a lot to me. i'm a real deal virgin at 26. i haven't even kissed a woman on the lips. it's good to see others out there who desire to keep themselves pure.
are you a real deal christian?
keep things rocking.
DAVID
February 21, 2005
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Subject : hello... i love you.
hello. i am so obsessed with nuns... and i was just searching "nuns" on google and i stumbled across your page. i was just wondering... can there be a lesbian nun? please reply with an answer i was just curious.
kelsey
February 12, 2005
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hey there.
i saw your pink nun site and found it to be interesting and funny. it's hard to take the site seriously, but the topic is very serious and something that means a lot to me. i'm a real deal virgin at 26. i haven't even kissed a woman on the lips. it's good to see others out there who desire to keep themselves pure.
are you a real deal christian?
keep things rocking.
-DAVID -2/05
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Pink Nun,
I think you are great and I greatly appreciate your message. More people out there need to realize and see the importance of purity. I also fully agree that purity has been preached for so long in so many boring, unattractive ways. You are throwing that stereotype out the window and I love it. Thanks for what you do!
Rob, Director of CrossFire Teen Ministries -9/04
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You are an inspiration! Very real! In your face. Never change!! God bless. �7-04
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SEX, SEX, SEX!
How on earth are we suppose to talk to teenagers about sex?
I am, for the first time in my youth ministry life, totally at a loss.
When I was at Cornerstone (actually in the middle of my conversation with Corrie about the suburbs) I was "interviewed" by this amazingly bizarre performance artist/ moral crusader called the Pink Nun. The Pink Nun�s whole gig is about radical abstinence and she is a button pusher let me tell you. (check out her page at www.pinknun.com).
Anyway, the Nun, tape recorder and microphone in hand, asked me about my own opinions on sex before marriage and then, when she found out I was a youth minister, she asked what I would say to teenagers about staying abstinent before marriage. Upon considering her questions I realized that I was totally at a loss. Every response that came to me seemed so canned, so utterly unconvincing, so completely inauthentic.
Now the Nun was happy to fill in the expected Evangelical Christian take on the issue (it leaves you empty, it�s not safe, sex is best in marriage etc. etc.) and I totally agree with this take but there�s something about it that is troublingly unsatisfying.
So, I need help friends�
What do we say to folks? How do we have the "premarital sex conversation" without sounding patronizing, self-righteous or like we�re reading the classic evangelical script on the topic (this last one is the one that I�m most concerned about).
Here are a few ideas and struggles I�ve got but I desperately need to talk about this�
1.) How do I tell some one that having sex before marriage is damaging for them and expect them to choose abstinence, when I constantly make decisions that are damaging and not life giving to me, even though I know better. It�s like knowledge that it�s "bad" just isn�t enough�at least not for me. I still struggle. But we seem to think that if kids know better then they�ll stop screwing around and I just don�t think it works. But if it does I�m open to hear about it,
2.) My opinions about sex are very theological, so how do I have any conversation with a non-Christian about it and not sound all weird? If you�re not following Jesus why should I think that you�ll give a crap about what God designed sex for? How do we have this conversation with non-Christian folks whom I believe would have more life and joy in a abstinent lifestyle without sounding, well, weird.
3.) It seems to me the way through this morass lies somewhere in addressing the underlying consumerism that drives our cultures sexual ethic. If we are all just sexual commodities to be consumed then there�s no reason to "wait for marriage" but if there�s a way that waiting until marriage actually honors another person and doesn�t treat them as a product�well, that seems to have legs. But is that just a theologized opinion again and there fore unhelpful to some folks?
So�.
What are helpful ways to have this conversation with followers of Jesus and those not yet following Him?
How do you "teach this to kids" in a Youth Ministry setting?
A penny for your thoughts my friends.
-Dixon Tuesday, July 27, 2004
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> >>> 6/18/2004 >>>
> Just a note to say I logged onto the Pink Nun
> website and I was both
> entertained and impressed! You have a fun,
> innovative approach to a
> serious topic. This is definitely not my mother's
> sex talk (nor yours,
> either, I suspect). I passed it along to my teenage
> daughter and told
> her to tell her friends. I especially like the fact
> that you are not
> judgmental about what people may already have done,
> and I like the
> delicate way you handle the question about
> homosexuality.
> I am hardly a prudish parent, but I remember when we
> stopped watching
> prime time TV as a family - almost ten years ago, I
> got tired of either
> explaining rude jokes or hoping they would go over
> the kids' heads.
> They still watch a lot of stuff that contains sexual
> innuendo, but it's
> still less prevalent on kids' cable channels than on
> the major networks.
> And I watch with them whenever possible, to
> intervene or explain when
> necessary!
Thanks and, like I said, I'm passing the word along. �L.R.
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Look, I am a Catholic priest -- and quite chaste. I left active ministry ages ago to marry-- have a physician son, daughter across the street married to a Jewish man-- I have bapytized their 3 sons. And my prize-- wild, radical Catholic daughter-- thinks she can convert the whole African continent to Christian love. Works for Catholic Relief African programs and did much good. Hey, I never say no to good things.
I support anyone else who supports chastity.
Another thing-- don't suppose that man and woman living together are unchaste-- I left active ministry years ago to marry and had three children. Then my wife left me. I am 66 years old living with a close friend-- chick of 55. We sleep separately unless in a motel where $$$ are an issue. And then, tho we love each other more than anyone else in the world, we believe in chastity and that's what we do-- even if sleeping together, as we hate doing-- but yes, on vacation she is really a tightwad.. Generally I prefer my own bed and she hers, and yes, there are a few hugs-- we do love each other very much-- but do not desire sex with each other. And yes, I suspect we love each other more than many married people on the block. And do not disbelieve-- CHASTITY is a real value for us.
Were either of us to marry, I suspect we would still trust and love each other more than the spouse.Anything unusual about that for ol'farts? But not to worry-- ain't no one here thinking of deserting the ship.
-B.F. 12-7-03
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I am a teacher and a mother and an advocate of sexual purity. When I say what you do, I feel like I sound like a prude. When I read it from you, it sounds much more dynamic. Thanks for giving me more tools to use in the quest for changing people's attitudes about casual sex.
-N.P. 11-16-03
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Curious Site of the Moment: "Irregularly updated; always curious." -z
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Thanks so much, Pink Nun!
I read about you at beliefnet.com. I very much enjoy your website. Unfortunately, I'm more of a "technical virgin" than what you would call a virgin. In spite of that, I would like to keep any future relationships free of additional sexual baggage and I'm committed to staying entirely out of the sexual arena until I am married.
I have 3 friends around my age (26) who are virgins. I was excited to find merchandise on your website because I knew that they would love receiving it for Christmas. Although we are nice church going girls, we all have an irreverent sense of humor, so I know they will love your items! Additionally, I can't say how important it is to know people who share my values and will support me in my desire to stay away from sexually compromising situations. I think we all appreciate any gesture that shows unity in that commitment.
I work with jr. high girls at my church. I see how some of the girls become vulnerable and isolated from their families at this age. It's a critical time to educate them about the importance of embracing true love (from God, family, and friends) instead of falling for all of the crap the media feeds to us.
Thanks so much for what you are doing. Maybe you'll be back in LA sometime and I'll get to see you! I am having lots of fun sharing your website with my friends.
-H.G. 11-6-03
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I had seen your interview in the Chicago Reader and a to write to you ever since. I have to admit that I can't total adhere to your philosophy being gay and all BUT i love your message. I was a virgin until I was 21 (long past the expectancy of the adolescents in my age group) and admittedly lost it to someone I was greatly in love with.
I have to say I'm glad that there is someone out there spreading the message that its OK to wait. Even if its not necessarily for "my people" LOL ..AND I LOVE your comic take on it as well!
So I just gotta say "YOU GO ON WITH YOUR BAD PINK SELF GIRL!"
Thanks again and good luck with all your endeavors!
-J. 8-26-03
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Thank you so much, I really loved the web site. I first heard about you from seeing your article on the cover of the reader. I really love how you outlook on sex. It's refreshing. I am catholic, and it's pretty blah how it's dealt with. Wish there were more people on this earth like you! It's hard being a virgin. I get looked down on all the time. Hopefully you'll inspire people to think it over before they have sex again. There's way too many shows on showcasing girls how don't know there own babies dads. Usually I laugh when I see those shows, but it's seriosuly really sad. Well thank you for being fabulous!
~M W �8-20-03
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Dear Pink Nun,
First of all, I can't say that I follow your beliefs in my personal life,
but I truly appreciate the way you express them. I love your site and all
of your products! Too many people with strong views on sexuality one way
or the other are strident and humorless. Thank you for being sincere, and
open minded, and cute.
r.h. �8-14-03
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-Dear Pink Nun,
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the importance of what you're doing. You see, I am very disheartened by "sex-positive" feminism because it casts aside the many very good reasons for a woman/girl to abstain from sex, such as pregnancy, cervical cancer, the fact that it usually doesn't even feel very good the first time. I personally don't have a religious stance on all this, I just think abstinence needs to be seen as a valid choice, especially since young girls usually have sex for the first time not because they think it will feel good physically (and hence, emotionally), but out of a sense of obligation (to their boyfriends, the media, and to a sense that they can only be "sexy" if they engage in sexual acts regardless of how ready they feel for them). while I don't agree with you that everyone needs to wait until marriage (although that's totally a valid choice for some) I think most people would do well to wait at least until they have a driver's license! So, i salute you! i also salute you for being both a feminist and a christian... most people (including most feminists and christians) see that as a contradiction when it really isn't. and oh, I went to the art institute... some of my friends knew you... artsy hipsters can be so narrow-minded about this stuff!
E.C. �8-10-03
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