phoenix left (9:10:33 PM): i waited till midnight for your call....but i never got it GeneStarwind779 (9:10:45 PM): sorry man, i had to go to sleep GeneStarwind779 (9:10:49 PM): had to get up at 7 phoenix left (9:10:56 PM): lol phoenix left (9:10:59 PM): i was just joking GeneStarwind779 (9:12:13 PM): alright phoenix left (9:12:43 PM): so how are thing going in George's life? any girl trouble, illnesses, problems? GeneStarwind779 (9:13:14 PM): bam, you got to of them right phoenix left (9:13:27 PM): which ones? GeneStarwind779 (9:13:59 PM): first and last one phoenix left (9:14:14 PM): feel like talking about them? GeneStarwind779 (9:14:57 PM): mmmmmmmmmmmmmm phoenix left (9:15:05 PM): lol phoenix left (9:15:17 PM): my mom's hear dthat quite a few times phoenix left (9:15:21 PM): *heard GeneStarwind779 (9:15:44 PM): yeah GeneStarwind779 (9:15:59 PM): alright, i can tell you what happened phoenix left (9:15:59 PM): was that a yeah you wanna talk or to what i just said? phoenix left (9:16:02 PM): k GeneStarwind779 (9:17:50 PM): well, i hung out w/ marice before our class today. we were in my dorm and i was on the comp looking at myspace stuff and i saw that she changed her picture to one where she's holding a beer and all. the first thing i thought about was that she might care to know that my bro looks at my myspace all the time and he'd see that she drinks, and i didn't think that was something she wanted him to know. so, i said, "hey, my brother's going to know you drink" and then she gets all pissed off at me GeneStarwind779 (9:18:19 PM): cuz she's gotten drunk everytime we've gone to a party since we came back from winter break (it's only 4 times) GeneStarwind779 (9:18:57 PM): but she starts getting pissed at me cuz she thinks i was upset w/ her every single time she's had a drink, which is totally bullshit phoenix left (9:19:48 PM): i can't tell if you're still typing, so just tell me when you're finished with the story...not that i'm trying to rush you...... GeneStarwind779 (9:19:56 PM): the last time she drank, i was pissed because i care about her, and it was the worst out of the other times. i didn't like yell at her or anything (i never do), so she starts telling me to stop being her mom GeneStarwind779 (9:20:55 PM): and i was thinking to myself "you hipocrit (don't know how to spell)" because she's ALWAYS telling me what to do, like not to ride my skateboard anymore and to stop drinking and doing drugs (i don't do drugs anymore but you don't need to keep telling me) GeneStarwind779 (9:21:14 PM): UGGAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! GeneStarwind779 (9:21:34 PM): and she calls me a hipocrit because i get upset ONE time she drinks GeneStarwind779 (9:21:37 PM): i'm not done yet GeneStarwind779 (9:21:40 PM): haha, sorry phoenix left (9:21:43 PM): lol phoenix left (9:21:44 PM): go ahead GeneStarwind779 (9:23:26 PM): and she just keeps contrdicting herself because she got pissed at me for drinking, so i stopped until i thought i was better, which i am and so she doesn't think it's ok to be upset if you see your girlfriend stumbling around while you're trying to hold her to walk her back to her dorm and she's throwing up in every bush she sees phoenix left (9:23:48 PM): GeneStarwind779 (9:23:54 PM): man fuck, and she gets pissed at me for just making that one fucking comment about how my bro's gonna see she has a beer in her hand GeneStarwind779 (9:24:15 PM): so fuck it, i'm not going to try to apologize when there's nothing i fucking did wrong GeneStarwind779 (9:25:12 PM): i'm done phoenix left (9:25:47 PM): i can see how you did nothing wrong, but i kinda know where both of you are coming from (you cuz i express concern for all my good friends who i know drink and do drugs - and i know they get it from everyone too. and i know where marice is coming from cuz my mother always used to tell me that i needed to be just a bit more organized...and i was sick of hearing it, even if it came from someone else) phoenix left (9:26:37 PM): but sometimes, especially in a relationship, all it takes is for one person not to realize how touchy a certain subject is and make a comment they think might not offend the other so much phoenix left (9:27:55 PM): i don't know if you've tryied explaining to marice why you were concerned and you weren't trying to be her mom, but sometimes, even if you did nothing wrong - just to show how much you care about the other person, you sometimes may have to apologize for things you didn't do, or things you didn't think you did wrong (which i'm not saying you have to) GeneStarwind779 (9:28:12 PM): yeah, you make a good point, but i still don't understand why she has to get pissed at me phoenix left (9:28:18 PM): i know GeneStarwind779 (9:28:50 PM): but this isn't the first time i've done nothing wrong phoenix left (9:29:00 PM): really? GeneStarwind779 (9:29:30 PM): yeah, i've apologized before for doing nothing wrong GeneStarwind779 (9:29:34 PM): and i'm just sick of it phoenix left (9:29:54 PM): i hear that phoenix left (9:30:05 PM): and i know how sick of it you are phoenix left (9:30:32 PM): but does she mean enough to you that all the good times you've had out-wiegh the bad? GeneStarwind779 (9:31:34 PM): yes, there are more good times, but i'm just saying, i'm not going to apologize GeneStarwind779 (9:31:42 PM): if anything, it's going to be her this time, not me phoenix left (9:31:47 PM): i getcha phoenix left (9:32:28 PM): but sometimes it takes more of one person than it does of another - sure you may think it's going to be her this time, but it may turn out to be you again, just because you care for her that much GeneStarwind779 (9:32:56 PM): then what's that saying about her GeneStarwind779 (9:33:07 PM): it makes it sound like she doesn't care as much phoenix left (9:33:10 PM): that she doesn't care enough about you phoenix left (9:33:11 PM): lol phoenix left (9:33:12 PM): yes GeneStarwind779 (9:33:15 PM): if she really does, then she will phoenix left (9:33:33 PM): so you should point that out to her (just not so blaitantly) phoenix left (9:34:36 PM): i've told a friend before that they've done things i haven't been so proud of them for, and that they've shown no guilt over, and that if they wanted to keep me as a friend, it was time that they started showing it so it wasn't all one-sided phoenix left (9:35:08 PM): if you express to her how deeply you care for her and how much you're concerned, she'll either see it your way, or you'll know exactly how much she cares about you GeneStarwind779 (9:35:21 PM): i guess so phoenix left (9:35:34 PM): lol - i'm not trying to persuade you to do anything you don't want to phoenix left (9:35:41 PM): i'm just telling you what i think phoenix left (9:35:48 PM): even though i've had less relatinships than you GeneStarwind779 (9:35:49 PM): no, that's a good way in dealing with it phoenix left (9:36:27 PM): well i'm glad i could help GeneStarwind779 (9:36:48 PM): thanks phoenix left (9:37:14 PM): i should be thanking you - most people say they know i'm here if they have a problem, but few rarely ever tell me if they do GeneStarwind779 (9:38:16 PM): well, don't worry, i'll use you up, hehe, and you can always tell me anything that's buggin' you phoenix left (9:38:29 PM): cool phoenix left (9:39:14 PM): just to let you know, marisa seems really concerned about you - she thinks you're slightly depressed (she said the last time she called, you sounded high or sad or something) GeneStarwind779 (9:39:41 PM): that was a while ago, i don't do drugs anyway, i was just sad phoenix left (9:40:15 PM): i wasn't saying you did, she just told me that she felt bad cuz you sounded...not yourself - that something might be wrong but you wouldn't tell her GeneStarwind779 (9:41:28 PM): it was kinda hard since the problem was right next to me GeneStarwind779 (9:41:35 PM): and i mean that in the nicest way phoenix left (9:41:38 PM): lol phoenix left (9:42:25 PM): well, girl trouble aside, is everything else pretty much okay? GeneStarwind779 (9:42:45 PM): yeah, everything else is fine phoenix left (9:42:54 PM): good phoenix left (9:43:15 PM): if my husband was having a rough patch in his life...i'd have to do something about it GeneStarwind779 (9:43:45 PM): hehe, thanks man phoenix left (9:43:54 PM): sure - anytime phoenix left (9:46:07 PM): do you think you're ever gonna come up and visit me man? phoenix left (9:46:13 PM): like the summer or something GeneStarwind779 (9:46:25 PM): i hope GeneStarwind779 (9:46:36 PM): i just need to borrow a car for a few days or something GeneStarwind779 (9:46:42 PM): i'm gonna check it out though man GeneStarwind779 (9:46:43 PM): i have to GeneStarwind779 signed off at 9:46:49 PM. phoenix left (9:46:50 PM): omg - do you know long of a drive it is?! GeneStarwind779 (9:46:59 PM): hey, am i still on phoenix left (9:47:02 PM): lol phoenix left (9:47:10 PM): finally learned how to be invisible huh? GeneStarwind779 (9:47:18 PM): yeah phoenix left (9:47:44 PM): but yeah - if it's your first time making a drive from SD to me, it can take north of 11 hours GeneStarwind779 (9:47:55 PM): alright phoenix left (9:47:59 PM): lol GeneStarwind779 (9:48:17 PM): i'm gonna try, if not this summer, than definitely the next phoenix left (9:48:23 PM): yeah GeneStarwind779 (9:48:24 PM): you're still going to come back to sd right/ GeneStarwind779 (9:48:29 PM): yeah? what do you mean yeah? phoenix left (9:48:40 PM): lol phoenix left (9:48:42 PM): yeah phoenix left (9:48:45 PM): as in.... phoenix left (9:48:58 PM): you're determined to come up here no matter how long it takes GeneStarwind779 (9:49:05 PM): mos def phoenix left (9:49:08 PM): lol phoenix left (9:49:16 PM): but this summer...maybe for a week or two GeneStarwind779 (9:49:35 PM): k, cool GeneStarwind779 (9:49:42 PM): give me call about it and all phoenix left (9:49:48 PM): mos def GeneStarwind779 (9:49:54 PM): hehe alright phoenix left (9:50:43 PM): but my mom is coming at the end of the month to visit before she moves and she said she was going to help me buy a car - so come summer - if things go right - i'll be able to pop down there anytime i can get some time off, even if it's three days or something phoenix left (9:50:53 PM): and i can speed too since my grandma wont be with me.... GeneStarwind779 (9:51:03 PM): kool GeneStarwind779 (9:51:03 PM): hehe GeneStarwind779 (9:51:05 PM): alright man GeneStarwind779 (9:51:08 PM): well, better go phoenix left (9:51:12 PM): alright man GeneStarwind779 (9:51:19 PM): and thanks again man phoenix left (9:51:23 PM): sure thing phoenix left (9:51:27 PM): anytime man - i mean it GeneStarwind779 (9:51:33 PM): same goes for you GeneStarwind779 (9:51:34 PM): peace phoenix left (9:51:40 PM): and chicken grease homie GeneStarwind779 (9:51:43 PM): hehe GeneStarwind779 (9:51:45 PM): later player phoenix left (9:51:46 PM): later dater