phoenix left (9:10:33 PM): i waited till midnight for your call....but i never got it :'(
GeneStarwind779 (9:10:45 PM): sorry man, i had to go to sleep
GeneStarwind779 (9:10:49 PM): had to get up at 7
phoenix left (9:10:56 PM): lol
phoenix left (9:10:59 PM): i was just joking
GeneStarwind779 (9:12:13 PM): alright
phoenix left (9:12:43 PM): so how are thing going in George's life? any girl trouble, illnesses, problems?
GeneStarwind779 (9:13:14 PM): bam, you got to of them right
phoenix left (9:13:27 PM): which ones?
GeneStarwind779 (9:13:59 PM): first and last one
phoenix left (9:14:14 PM): feel like talking about them?
GeneStarwind779 (9:14:57 PM): mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
phoenix left (9:15:05 PM): lol
phoenix left (9:15:17 PM): my mom's hear dthat quite a few times
phoenix left (9:15:21 PM): *heard
GeneStarwind779 (9:15:44 PM): yeah
GeneStarwind779 (9:15:59 PM): alright, i can tell you what happened
phoenix left (9:15:59 PM): was that a yeah you wanna talk or to what i just said?
phoenix left (9:16:02 PM): k
GeneStarwind779 (9:17:50 PM): well, i hung out w/ marice before our class today. we were in my dorm and i was on the comp looking at myspace stuff and i saw that she changed her picture to one where she's holding a beer and all. the first thing i thought about was that she might care to know that my bro looks at my myspace all the time and he'd see that she drinks, and i didn't think that was something she wanted him to know. so, i said, "hey, my brother's going to know you drink" and then she gets all pissed off at me
GeneStarwind779 (9:18:19 PM): cuz she's gotten drunk everytime we've gone to a party since we came back from winter break (it's only 4 times)
GeneStarwind779 (9:18:57 PM): but she starts getting pissed at me cuz she thinks i was upset w/ her every single time she's had a drink, which is totally bullshit
phoenix left (9:19:48 PM): i can't tell if you're still typing, so just tell me when you're finished with the story...not that i'm trying to rush you......
GeneStarwind779 (9:19:56 PM): the last time she drank, i was pissed because i care about her, and it was the worst out of the other times. i didn't like yell at her or anything (i never do), so she starts telling me to stop being her mom
GeneStarwind779 (9:20:55 PM): and i was thinking to myself "you hipocrit (don't know how to spell)" because she's ALWAYS telling me what to do, like not to ride my skateboard anymore and to stop drinking and doing drugs (i don't do drugs anymore but you don't need to keep telling me)
GeneStarwind779 (9:21:14 PM): UGGAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
GeneStarwind779 (9:21:34 PM): and she calls me a hipocrit because i get upset ONE time she drinks
GeneStarwind779 (9:21:37 PM): i'm not done yet
GeneStarwind779 (9:21:40 PM): haha, sorry
phoenix left (9:21:43 PM): lol
phoenix left (9:21:44 PM): go ahead
GeneStarwind779 (9:23:26 PM): and she just keeps contrdicting herself because she got pissed at me for drinking, so i stopped until i thought i was better, which i am and so she doesn't think it's ok to be upset if you see your girlfriend stumbling around while you're trying to hold her to walk her back to her dorm and she's throwing up in every bush she sees
phoenix left (9:23:48 PM): :-\
GeneStarwind779 (9:23:54 PM): man fuck, and she gets pissed at me for just making that one fucking comment about how my bro's gonna see she has a beer in her hand
GeneStarwind779 (9:24:15 PM): so fuck it, i'm not going to try to apologize when there's nothing i fucking did wrong
GeneStarwind779 (9:25:12 PM): i'm done
phoenix left (9:25:47 PM): i can see how you did nothing wrong, but i kinda know where both of you are coming from (you cuz i express concern for all my good friends who i know drink and do drugs - and i know they get it from everyone too. and i know where marice is coming from cuz my mother always used to tell me that i needed to be just a bit more organized...and i was sick of hearing it, even if it came from someone else)
phoenix left (9:26:37 PM): but sometimes, especially in a relationship, all it takes is for one person not to realize how touchy a certain subject is and make a comment they think might not offend the other so much
phoenix left (9:27:55 PM): i don't know if you've tryied explaining to marice why you were concerned and you weren't trying to be her mom, but sometimes, even if you did nothing wrong - just to show how much you care about the other person, you sometimes may have to apologize for things you didn't do, or things you didn't think you did wrong (which i'm not saying you have to)
GeneStarwind779 (9:28:12 PM): yeah, you make a good point, but i still don't understand why she has to get pissed at me
phoenix left (9:28:18 PM): i know
GeneStarwind779 (9:28:50 PM): but this isn't the first time i've done nothing wrong
phoenix left (9:29:00 PM): really?
GeneStarwind779 (9:29:30 PM): yeah, i've apologized before for doing nothing wrong
GeneStarwind779 (9:29:34 PM): and i'm just sick of it
phoenix left (9:29:54 PM): i hear that
phoenix left (9:30:05 PM): and i know how sick of it you are
phoenix left (9:30:32 PM): but does she mean enough to you that all the good times you've had out-wiegh the bad?
GeneStarwind779 (9:31:34 PM): yes, there are more good times, but i'm just saying, i'm not going to apologize
GeneStarwind779 (9:31:42 PM): if anything, it's going to be her this time, not me
phoenix left (9:31:47 PM): i getcha
phoenix left (9:32:28 PM): but sometimes it takes more of one person than it does of another - sure you may think it's going to be her this time, but it may turn out to be you again, just because you care for her that much
GeneStarwind779 (9:32:56 PM): then what's that saying about her
GeneStarwind779 (9:33:07 PM): it makes it sound like she doesn't care as much
phoenix left (9:33:10 PM): that she doesn't care enough about you
phoenix left (9:33:11 PM): lol
phoenix left (9:33:12 PM): yes
GeneStarwind779 (9:33:15 PM): if she really does, then she will
phoenix left (9:33:33 PM): so you should point that out to her (just not so blaitantly)
phoenix left (9:34:36 PM): i've told a friend before that they've done things i haven't been so proud of them for, and that they've shown no guilt over, and that if they wanted to keep me as a friend, it was time that they started showing it so it wasn't all one-sided
phoenix left (9:35:08 PM): if you express to her how deeply you care for her and how much you're concerned, she'll either see it your way, or you'll know exactly how much she cares about you
GeneStarwind779 (9:35:21 PM): i guess so
phoenix left (9:35:34 PM): lol - i'm not trying to persuade you to do anything you don't want to
phoenix left (9:35:41 PM): i'm just telling you what i think
phoenix left (9:35:48 PM): even though i've had less relatinships than you
GeneStarwind779 (9:35:49 PM): no, that's a good way in dealing with it
phoenix left (9:36:27 PM): well i'm glad i could help :-)
GeneStarwind779 (9:36:48 PM): thanks
phoenix left (9:37:14 PM): i should be thanking you - most people say they know i'm here if they have a problem, but few rarely ever tell me if they do
GeneStarwind779 (9:38:16 PM): well, don't worry, i'll use you up, hehe, and you can always tell me anything that's buggin' you
phoenix left (9:38:29 PM): cool
phoenix left (9:39:14 PM): just to let you know, marisa seems really concerned about you - she thinks you're slightly depressed (she said the last time she called, you sounded high or sad or something)
GeneStarwind779 (9:39:41 PM): that was a while ago, i don't do drugs anyway, i was just sad
phoenix left (9:40:15 PM): i wasn't saying you did, she just told me that she felt bad cuz you sounded...not yourself - that something might be wrong but you wouldn't tell her
GeneStarwind779 (9:41:28 PM): it was kinda hard since the problem was right next to me
GeneStarwind779 (9:41:35 PM): and i mean that in the nicest way
phoenix left (9:41:38 PM): lol
phoenix left (9:42:25 PM): well, girl trouble aside, is everything else pretty much okay?
GeneStarwind779 (9:42:45 PM): yeah, everything else is fine
phoenix left (9:42:54 PM): good
phoenix left (9:43:15 PM): if my husband was having a rough patch in his life...i'd have to do something about it
GeneStarwind779 (9:43:45 PM): hehe, thanks man
phoenix left (9:43:54 PM): sure - anytime
phoenix left (9:46:07 PM): do you think you're ever gonna come up and visit me man?
phoenix left (9:46:13 PM): like the summer or something
GeneStarwind779 (9:46:25 PM): i hope
GeneStarwind779 (9:46:36 PM): i just need to borrow a car for a few days or something
GeneStarwind779 (9:46:42 PM): i'm gonna check it out though man
GeneStarwind779 (9:46:43 PM): i have to
GeneStarwind779 signed off at 9:46:49 PM.
phoenix left (9:46:50 PM): omg - do you know long of a drive it is?!
GeneStarwind779 (9:46:59 PM): hey, am i still on
phoenix left (9:47:02 PM): lol
phoenix left (9:47:10 PM): finally learned how to be invisible huh?
GeneStarwind779 (9:47:18 PM): yeah
phoenix left (9:47:44 PM): but yeah - if it's your first time making a drive from SD to me, it can take north of 11 hours
GeneStarwind779 (9:47:55 PM): alright
phoenix left (9:47:59 PM): lol
GeneStarwind779 (9:48:17 PM): i'm gonna try, if not this summer, than definitely the next
phoenix left (9:48:23 PM): yeah
GeneStarwind779 (9:48:24 PM): you're still going to come back to sd right/
GeneStarwind779 (9:48:29 PM): yeah? what do you mean yeah?
phoenix left (9:48:40 PM): lol
phoenix left (9:48:42 PM): yeah
phoenix left (9:48:45 PM): as in....
phoenix left (9:48:58 PM): you're determined to come up here no matter how long it takes
GeneStarwind779 (9:49:05 PM): mos def
phoenix left (9:49:08 PM): lol
phoenix left (9:49:16 PM): but this summer...maybe for a week or two
GeneStarwind779 (9:49:35 PM): k, cool
GeneStarwind779 (9:49:42 PM): give me call about it and all
phoenix left (9:49:48 PM): mos def
GeneStarwind779 (9:49:54 PM): hehe alright
phoenix left (9:50:43 PM): but my mom is coming at the end of the month to visit before she moves and she said she was going to help me buy a car - so come summer - if things go right - i'll be able to pop down there anytime i can get some time off, even if it's three days or something
phoenix left (9:50:53 PM): and i can speed too since my grandma wont be with me....:-D
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:03 PM): kool
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:03 PM): hehe
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:05 PM): alright man
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:08 PM): well, better go
phoenix left (9:51:12 PM): alright man
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:19 PM): and thanks again man
phoenix left (9:51:23 PM): sure thing
phoenix left (9:51:27 PM): anytime man - i mean it
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:33 PM): same goes for you
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:34 PM): peace
phoenix left (9:51:40 PM): and chicken grease homie
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:43 PM): hehe
GeneStarwind779 (9:51:45 PM): later player
phoenix left (9:51:46 PM): later dater 1
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