Bill >> But why can't men and
women will equal at the end of
the day, but we divide up the
chores?
Evolution is efficient.
Isn't it more efficient that men
are better at some things and
women are better at other
things? I'm not saying it's necessarily true, but couldn't it be true?
BIDEN
>> It could be true but the
governor knows better than i do,
50% of all math degrees in
college go to women.
52% of all of biology degrees go
to women.
Something happened by the time
they graduate and their career
paths. So there's something else going on.
Whether is there different
wiring, that's above my pay grade. [laughter].
But one of the thing that's real
clear is you have half the folks
in medical schl, they're
women.
So there are something going on
after that.
Robin >> Basically,
his nickname is mad dog, not care bear. First of all. And the second
part of the question is it's fun to shoot people that basically slap
women around. The other part about him is he also advocated rather than
exploring future war, he says let's get in and learn how to fight basic
wars the old way., which is what we've been fighting in Afghanistan and
Iraq, and teaching people, number one, to speak Afghani, and speak
Iraqi , speak Farsi and deal with prisoners in a respectful way. He was
one of the first people before Abu Ghraib, saying you have to treat
people in a certain way before making contact. And is it fun to shoot
people? Yeah, but I guess the fun kind of disappears when they shoot back. [laughter]
Then it becomes "Incoming!"
Party's over. [laughter] But he's a tough guy who's been through it.
Bill >> But that is what a warrior is.
There's an old saying, "don't pity the martyr, he likes his
job".
>> Hnt that you got to have people who will shoot vathe and kill people but it's a little bravado. I've been there lots of time. I've spent time in afghanistan and none of them like shooting people.
>> They say goddamn, i got one today.
>> When he basically bitch slapped the kid because he was battle shocked but there's people respond one way and people who respond other ways. There's people who go with the adrenaline of combat and others who see someone die, it affects you and you realize you're still going on and them shooting back is the other thing. Bill: Proves how much they like it.
>> All troops must have been to iraq and afghanistan and i would have to say that we have some of the finest young men and women in the military.
[Applause] supporting our country and our values and there's no question sometimes they're going to say something and in the heat of the battle but i would say that we have the best young men and women we ever had. Bill: And it doesn't make batted people.
>> What you do, it's like the p.C. Army. It's not really fun but it's interesting. Bill: The other story is --
>> swat exciting. -- Somewhat exciting. But then i logged on to a website and i took care of it. Bill: The other story is we've been torturing, if you want to use that word or interrogating arab prisoners with what looks to me like a lap dance. It's sexual humiliation. They're very sensitive about women in the arab world and they treat their women horribly. They're trying to get information out of these guys by t kid rock would love. And people are upset about this and i don't know if that's such an awful thing. I don't know if it's so awful to treat people in a way that uses that against them.
>> But it doesn't seem to be getting any results. They've said they do this and even in the descriptions, they say that they -- it infuriates them and it breaks down. I met a guy afghanistan who was an interrogator and he was getting information by talking to them and listening to them, by treating them on a certain level one-on-one and it seems to work that way.
[Applausd it offered them to a human
respect and responded by say --
more than saying hey, it's my
period.
They're designing a -- and you
couldn't do this in american
prison because -- bitch, that's
it!
Motherfucker, you're going down!
Could be a riot.
Hey, cell block five, we're
going to have a human dog pile.
We're going to have a human dog
pile.
We're going to take pictures.
Everybody cool with this?
Trying to get information out of
people you're dealing with, a
really bizarre mind set.
Bill: The military is really
friendly to you.
>> When your girl friend you get
caught with your first sexual
experience is with your cousin
or a goat, they bring a goat, i
know him.
Don't hurt billy.
Don't hurt the goat!
My first evening.
How was it for you?
Not baad.
In the deep mountains.
But not in big cities, because
you have other things to do like
log on to a gay american porn
site.
Bill: What do you think about
the election in iraq.
I know a lot of my friends on
the liberal left poopooed the
election.
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>> You can't -- bill: I've been saying, you can't hate bush first, you have to go by the facts. This was a big victory for everybody, bush, america, iraq. I think it's going to change things.
>> I think so too.
>> It was interesting the secret ballots and secret candidates, later on, we'll find out who's winning. Bill: It wasn't about who was running, it was about them coming out and doing something.
>> Busot of credit for that, he had the courage to stand up and say, we're going to hold that election, it was held, and over 60% of the people showed up after being threatened with their lives and property. I think it was a fantastic thing.
>> Now books the process of protecting the second part of the equation, they have to write a constitution. They could take ours, we're not using it.
[Applause] same thing afghanistan. They came out, voted, had to change the dynamic of the war lords, but it starts. Can it change? That's what they said. Bill: But afghanistan is a much more primitive country.
>> What time is it in
afghanistan?
1824.
>>Hdad could be a european city.
>> It was.
Beirut.
You go back, beirut was the
paris of the middle east.
It was this idea after a series
of civil wars, they come back to
the point where they're trying
to rebuild and what happened a
week ago.
>> Care in baghdad and iraq in the 1960's was on par with the america. People from all over the middle east were going there for their surgeries. There are highly educated people.
>> It hasn't been rebuilt even now.
>> But they have the chance now.
>> We have obligation now, because these people did risk their lives, we can do this, there has been no discernable change in the fundamental way in our policy. We should be bringing into contact. We should say to the secretary general of nato, our ambassador, to middle eastern states, say, you're all in the deal. Once a month, we're meeting here. We're this group as a resource. We're going to help them write the constitution in the way we helped them put on the election. The guy from the united nations is why they had the election. It's not a prize.
>> Y the republicans picked the democrats' pocket on the issue of freedom. When i was a kid, it was john f. Kennedy, pay any price, bear any burden. It seems like the republicans --
>> the irony is, it is. They have. But the strange thing is, just go back four years. I'm the guy who was beating up the president named clinton to go into bosnia and kosovo. We tried to get a vote in the republican house and senate to use force. The irony is the president of the united states has moved here, many in his party aren't there in the congress. Aking about the house and senate. Yet on the other side of the equation, you have democrats who think freedom matters, who, because it's bush, are remaining silent. Bill: Right. Yeah. That's a problem.
>> You have to back up.
The whole equation is backing it
up now, because the real
struggle begins now every day.
What good is it if you have ta
government if there's no
electricity and water.
>> We sent $84 billion to rebuild. Bill: $9 billion.
>> Where is this money?
I don't know!
It might be in monoco-, it might
be -- i don't know.
Bill: How much was whitewaterers
$100,000?
Clinton got a haircut, it was a
big deal.
The republicans can make
something out of nothing, the
democrats can't make something
out of anything.
Plus plus
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>> he
[applause]
>> the election would not have been held without the sers appearance and leadership of george bush. George bush has to have a great deal of credit for standing up and being there. He's the one -- there's no question about that. He also, in his inauguration speech, talking about freedom for the world. Bill: But it also proves that freedom is so powerful it could even work when you screw up the campaign in such an incompetent wasteful life-taking way.
[Applause]
>> and the french are going, i like you very much, why don't you come stay for a while. Bill: You can't say it was a well-planned war.
>> The war wasn't hard, the peace was difficult to maintain. Mission accomplished, what's that? For me, i have one thing, when i was in iraq and afghanistan, you see a lot of national guard units, guys who have been there for two tours, three tours, that's the only thing. During the election, when they were busting kerryings, but i was sayingish george was in the same national guard unit with big foot. He did there was three lost weekends a month. Bill: That was a very different national guard.
>> These guys are not only
there, they extend their tours.
There was a guy who had his leg
blown off, and came back.
He doesn't want to leave his
guys behind.
The same thing with the
election.
They're there for them to make
this work, because they want
that to work.
There's still no weapons of mass
destruction.
If that works, that'll be the
legacy from this time period.
Bill: I'm glad you said that.
In the "L.A. Times" this week, president bush, i did not know this, is much many more of an art collector than i had thought.
>> Big clowns with eyes. Bill: Look at this painting. This is in part of the bush collection. It's by, i'm not kidding. Here's what i thought was interesting. It's by an artist named jimenez, the bushes are from texas and love the spanish people. They do.
>> And on velvet. Bill: It's called, the original title is called "rauveragey dancing" and they changed the titele to "texas waltz." I am not joking.
W>>e call it theap bstti two-epst. Bill: I was surprised to learn
--
i>>as w looking frothm e side going --ow w! Bi:Ll yh,ea i know.
>> T and down the
middle.
Way to go.
Bill: The arere a numberf o
other famous art works they've
renamed.
This is michelangelo's "creation
of adam requests, which is now
"don't ask, d'ton tell."
This is dali's "persistence of
memory," which isow n "global
rmwainneg sed more sdytu."
"Lady godiva" is now "whore on a
horse."
Oklo over there.
C>>an "whore on a horse agai? N" lli' gove orhe tre. Llbi: Stayer he. You canee s it rhtig trehe.
>>Ha tt's prie ncarchles' wife. Bi:Ll whister wilsl' motr,he now entitled "epkeg insocial secutyriol svent." Ro d'sin "the tnkhier" is now "the fliflp-peopr." Rehe's "rmmed,ai" now "orwhe thwi fs.In"
>> that'seb wsite. Bill: Van gogsh' "arstryig nht" isow nho "w thisng lkeoo tdo me before i spptoed drinkin"G. Nafilly, "vidad," retitled "jeff nngaon."
>> Oh, i'mup sposed tooo lk
eaahd.
M I' tonv watching tav.
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oklogin at michelangelo'das d,vi
going, that's king othf eew j,
he has a forkiesn.
Atwh hpeapned?
Bill t:Kialng autbo presintde
bu,she w doo dgive him credit,
he is tlyru a man of gbi ideas.
Nobody washo tifginia gnt tax
tscu before hero bughtt i up,
bonodyas whi tnkingf o invinadg
iraq before bheugrohtt i up.
Al tki mnguch autbo
soalci securyit and rauehling
atth.
My qstuenio about siaocl
secutyris ihi ts,f i he's the
big thiernk peoplsae y he is,f i
he wants to be a revolutionry,
whdoy estn'e h srtta with eth
re palblroem, medicare,
dimecaid, partf o yrou old beef.
I wanto t rdea yrou quote, which
is when you were leaving office,
you said "for the life of me, i
cannot undsterdan why the
rrteorists have not attacked our
food supply, because it's so
syea to do."
My question is, how could the
rrteisortsak me our fdoo supypl
moreox tic than it alrdyea is?
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little fat kids, run our cars
offhe tm.
I thk init serves fuelco emyno,
way befeor hydgeron.
>>Ou y and fully in agreement rinegdsar to osibety and proo nuttirion in amecari. Weav htoe do sothmeing about it. I think that you have bnee a pre imexplam oef that. Bi: Ll dion't think we're in tatol agrmeeent. I don'tht ink wh yatouon csider hethaly is wtha i csionrde alhethy. What the gerovennmt advesis peop tle eoat is basedn othe ntcoributis onatth ctaerin riagbunesiesss make. I don'tht kin dryai igos od for yo iu, d'ton thinkea mt is good for y,ou i don't think high-fructose corn syrup is good for you. Thi ink m american diet, even what peoepl thinks i okor f tm,hes i actually what's cainusg so muchic skness in our cotrun That's wt'has going toos cust mo mreoneyha tson cial securyit by far.
>> Theep dartment put outhe t
odfo pyramid and the guilidenes,
the toughest that has ever come
out.
We put them out a monthef bore i
ftle office.
Billth: Eye 'rnot based
science.
>> Yes bill: U yointhk atme st ho up with hmoornes, steros,id and antibiotics is gd ooforou y? Yothu in ikt's nuratal to eat --
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which makes usic sk and the
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>> the combineia vgrait wh exax-l, u yocan comend a go. Yoreu' in f aield with a laadbror,ha wtoe ds thatru dg ?Do I have no idea. You s teewo old people ian ub t, yo guo, dad's getting se.Om th tenyhe get upset wnhe jetan jasockn's titls o.Ut vei' seen0 1 mutines of vgriaa as. Kemi ditka, i get the p.Un geneticng einrieeng, getenalicly gienneer csor tn,hey kildle off butteriefls. The d sane iwss, the wreas no one to pollinate,or cjun going, who loves y?Ou 'sit a lot of -- bill:Hy w doe wgrow smuo ch couse the cnor iusndtry makes mpcaaign contrutibio.Ns we grow aot l of cn?Or we he avto do somhiet, ngwead me it intohi ts corn syr tuphat made everybody fat. Anind order to feedhe t cows a certnai nbeumr of ptero,in you feedhe tm bedas onro gund up lamb parts and you get cows that
-go-ad m cow -- no, jtusis psed
off.
Bill: Allig r.Ht
cai n'get t too far boneydhi ts.
I ntwa to bring onur ope scial
guest, the oarsc-nominated
guest, he'lle b seenn icr "ash."
Please welco mmer. D conheadle!
[Applause]wno theoys. I'm glad to haveou y he.Er
>> tha ynkou . Glad to be here. Bill c:Ongratatulio onsn your oscar nominatn.Io
[applause]
>> tnkha you. Bill: I saw your movie. I idsa finlyal, tyhe gavehi ts part a part commencive to his teal. I think a lot of people get the wrgon irempssiobo aut this vimoe, "hoterwl anda." It's a real good mieov and it's noat downer. Don'est have a -- ist' not the ending. It's not unhappy but it's a real first-rate wlel made movie and i thinto ask you about is you've been over there to africa. I think a lot of people think it was a savage thing in rwanda, but they're africans. And you watch the movie and y realize no, that city look like any other city. There were pretty girls drinking at the bar. The hotel looked like any other bar with cheesey uniforms that people had. They had nice lawns. This was something that could have happened in any other city in the world that we would recognize.
>> I think that
was there for the grace of god
and the thing that just struck
me is you think yes, this is
some remote place where you
know, and this could never
happen to us but you really
think -- yeah, it could.
You could be on either end of
that situation.
Putting in the proper
circumstances and again, we're
seeing what's going on right now
in the sudan and, you know,
close to 300,000 killed at
10,000 a month, two million
displaced and we're still
sitting here quibbling over is
it a genocide?
Where do we try the criminal?
>> Happen before in sarejevo and the difference is we acted.
[Applause] it doesn't take 1,000,000 troops.
>> We can start with strengthening the african-american union man democrat there's 3,000 to 5,000 soldiers to monitor an area roughly the size of texas when you can't get 3,000 soldiers to monitor l.A. We have to strengthen their mandate. All they're allowed to do is to observe and take repor atsnd send them back in the u.N. They can't defend the unions.
>> Three months to put them into the planes to get them in the region.
>> It's a lot of red tape and bureaucracy.
Robin >>�This is also supported by the Chinese blocking that because they sell them arms. Plus there's also something at stake for them in terms of oil. And they blocked the U.N. from acting upon it, because at a certain point it's who's supporting who? It's like the old days, same thing in Congo like things -- basically conflict diamonds. There's always something underneath that fuels, that prevents people from going,: "we have to interrupt", "no, you can't".
Bill >> A lot of people are familiar to people who follow the news.�For example, a lot of the trouble started because the colonial powers put the Tutsis, the minority, in power. Why does that sound familiar? Because the colonial powers put the Sunnis in power in Iraq. It's the exact same scenario.
Robin >>�Clinton spoke last night about the idea � he said, these genocides are
usually perpetuated by � yes, there is a hatred there � but the people who
start them and provoke them are people using this hatred for power.
CHEADLE >> Absolutely.
Robin >> He said Milosevic was the man who had the coldest eyes he's
ever seen, who used the hatred, the Muslim hatred, to basically promote himself
and further his power base. And if you go back to Hitler, big surprise.
>> It' pow.Er
>> and claiming ttha idea.
Llbi: Howid dhe t -- the movie
shows the story wel L.
How dithd at spread message of
hate ?
Teha radio which we have in this
uncotry.
I'nom t going toay s we're going
to feac anythgin nrea like that.
Pp[alause]
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radio, y noueedav heom shietng
seel.
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rao dito say it, t justify the
border lineas ce who is going to
gout ond a do it.
I knoweo pepl whoay s the
matthew shepherd killing, hom
sexuals ar- it's aabn nom --
homosexus,al it's an
omabination.
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[Appuslae] it's notus jt thehi csene.
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>>Hy w a lotf o
orgazaniontis are saying youe 'v
given mliilonofs people to t o
the tnasu.Mi
th seyayf i you allow tmhe to
free up seom of that fund to go
to salomia,ud san, evewhryere
cabeuslie ykeou say, ist' not
ju ost pnelace.
It's notik le people in south
eramica and all orve saying
exsecue, m we're sllti here.
We still have the same proembl.
>> Iro pbl, em'sit leadersh. Ip to this aieudnce, i'm going to send,0 200ar mines into darrfo to crdooatine isth opetiraon, eth amerinca public would ppsuort it llbian: D whoet brte wou llday e thgrndou?
Wweten into iraqec bause it was
inletorable bseause a guy had
rape rmsoo and gas chambers.
I n'dot owkn why it's morally
intolerable there.
>> Did anything dinurg rwan.Da bill: Soow h autbo make a movie ouabtud san?
>> Someby'odsoi gng toin w an osca pr,robably not a good as an actor of you wtiring the seam thing about darfor. Bi:Llha tnkou y. N dochdleae, evebory.Dy stayig rht the.Re you can joeny our new rules. It is timeor f new rules. The'ers no explaining love. If charles and camilla prove one thg,in it's atthhe s mt usbe the eagrstte lay ihin sty.Or shmue st do things to m hithat making angelina jolie look like your hand. Love is inplexabicleso, let's no
oinur conitstutn.Io neruw le. You n'caput t any remo tesyp of atme on a coban cheebuserger.
>> It's aar bnyard unreion!
Bill: On yceoue 'vdema it a
coban
cheebuserger, u'yo dreone.
Ifou y're adngdi me orthan tt,ha
you ha tveopo t t ou
medicare.
>> I mad fdooha cin!
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