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Religion One of the main things in society that doesn't make it's arguments through logic is religion religion doesn't do justice to reality as it seeks to oversimplify I.E. it's natural that men will make the decisions, natural that people are monogamous... When life is much more diverse.

Religion has Dogma instead of rational argument. They say, "IT is this way don't question it".
Unfortunately they often paint themselves into the corner like in the evolution debate.. When archaeologists can prove the Earth is much more than 6000 years old, Religion has no system to deal with new information.

Religion is Terrorism - "do this or something bad will happen !" Perpetually frightened.

Prof Richard Dawkins says religion is "the root of all evil", I'm inclined to agree with his statement. Notice I did put that in quotation marks cos he's not using the word "all" to mean 100% , as it's a pun on the popular saying "money is the root of all evil". He's saying religion is responsible for a lot if not most evil as religious people have often killed others "in the name of their God". If they hadn't had been religious they would have had no reason to kill people.

Dawkins Essay : extrapolates to - is organized religion the computer Virus of the mind ?

If there was a Devil.. he would be happy to see all the killing, corruption and exploitation that happens in the name of religion. Holy wars, temples full of gold with the poor outside, undemocratic - ruling by an all male elite

Not only does religion provide a reason for violence and killing, a lot of people use the special status it has to hide behind. When a priest steals money etc. You can't criticise him ..cos then you'd be criticising religion.
This is the basis of his arguments .. they seem logical to me ..for more detail he writes whole books about the matter.

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." - Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors. -Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of... Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."- Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.) Benjamin Franklin "Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758

"I cannot conceive otherwise than that He, the Infinite Father, expects or requires no worship or praise from us, but that He is even infinitely above it." -- Benjamin Franklin, _Articles_Of_Belief_and_Acts_of_Religion_, Nov.20, 1728

John Lennon said before in Imagine his song in favor of peace and against religion and nationalism

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only Sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isn¡¦t hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the world 
livinglife in peace...

Free Speech Issues

Cartoons - Shut Mouth - save lives

Sometimes you have to hold your tongue, even when you know you are right.

I care about ALL lives and I don't want to see anyone hurt or killed,policeman or demonstrator in a demonstration in Palestine. An embassy security guard doing his job. Or demonstrator accidentally blow himself up with a petrol bomb. People being held hostage in Iraq. BBC journalists, staff and security guards.

So I am glad that the UK press is not printing the cartoons even though they have a legal right to. And I'd like the radio and all the media to drop the whole debate. By not writing they can save lives.

The cartoon matter was very interesting once I gathered all the facts, and the argument became clear. I wrote a strong rational article, but then realized now is not the time for a rational debate; so I withdrew it. . You can't have a rational debate with paranoid gunmen.

The terrorist threats have won. We have to self censor and accept that gunmen from outside our own country have succeeded and taken away our absolute right to free speech.

We have to save lives today. And accept we still have freedom about 99% of things.

It's a pity, but if journalists are to be safe maybe we have to drop all public debate about Islam.

Muslims and non-muslims agree about so many things. We all have to avoid getting distracted in minor debates and use our time to make the world a better place. End......

Unfortunately paranoid men with guns have won. We have to drop the debate.

The images are all over the internet Like now with paranoid men with guns and bombs and others holding hostages. There'

OK I give up The cartoon matter was very interesting once I looked into all the facts and I wrote a long rational article about it. But then I realized sometimes it's best to hold your tongue; so I withdrew it.

I care about all lives and I don't want to see anyone killed, a policeman in a demonstration in Palestine nor demonstrator accidentally blow himself up with a petrol bomb. An embassy security guard doing his job. People being held hostage in Iraq. BBC journalists, staff and security guards.

So I am glad that the UK press is not printing the cartoons even though they have a legal right to. And I'd like the radio and all the media to drop the whole debate. By not writing they can save lives.

Now I give up my right to freedom of speech. When guys with guns and bombs say they will kill you if they don't like what they say, then the only realistic option to stop the violence is to close my mouth and keep my thoughts in my mind say before you could say what you want, in the last couple of months times have changed.

Terrorists are twisted people who appoint themselves with the right to kill, outside the ideal only to kill in order to save lives.

We are still free to talk about any democratic countries.

Do we self censor, cos of economic influence ? There are 2 big undemocratic countries we hold our tongue about.

Sometimes you have to hold your tongue, even when you know you are right.

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