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What the Holly Bible says

The Bible has been subjected to many more criticisms. Some people criticize it as a fake statement whilst another groups the opposite. As I see the holly Bible is an invaluable collection of books in two aspects; in literature aspect & religiously. Literature in Bible says how much talented were they even in BC in narrating to show the deep insights & knowledge about the world. It gives much information about the changes of generation to generation & their cultures. In the first book the writer has strived to give a better beginning for the religion.
In this article, my attempt is to describe what I get from the bible in nutshell.
First of all the writer describes the origin of the world. Everything is in a story format so that uneducated people also could understand & he has best tried to stress the almighty power of God. If we moderately examine what has happened according to the writer, it seems that writer admitted there had been a step-by-step changes in the world or he has tried to show so. God has done this within 7 days. What does this say ? as I see this should be 7 eras or any other time scale. What, if I use it happened or occurred so, instead of God has done so. I can see a little relation between the above step-by-step changes & the new philosophies of the origin of the world ( but not completely ). The obstacle to see this may be the words & phrases like " God invented/ said' etc. the writer wanted to emphasize the almighty power of God that's why it has been written in this way.
However, if we left the adulations of God, we would see the almighty power of the nature. Due to this power or God the origin of the world occurred. (here, I've restricted only to world because it may confuse if we talk about the whole universe. It is very complicative. )

The writer says, the man, Adam, was invented by dust. What does this imply ? here, dust means nothing but elements or atoms. Those days nobody knew atoms or elements. Sometimes even those words were not there. By their experience they admitted that man was made up of smaller particles like dust. The writer use this knowledge in the narration. Not only man but also everything was the same however, the writer described only about the man.
There is another point that is it says God invented man as same as God is. What does this say ?. I think this writer had a remarkable consciousness which is called the power of Holly Spirit in Christianity, to think in this way. The meaning is that man & God (the power of nature ) are alike not physically but mentally or consciously. The writer had seen the almighty power within man, but rarely anybody tries to make use of it. This is emphasized by another phrase saying God handed over the world to the man's authority. Man can manage the nature as he wishes not by physical attempts but mental power.
(I feel that a same thing is repeating as this universe itself doing. The nature made man & man was allowed to control the nature as well as man is making a man ( robot ) & will allow him (it) to control man. As man is destroying the nature, the man made man will destroy the man.)
however several persons has tried to make use of this inherited power in several aspects. For example the prince Siduhat tried to understand everything. Buddhists believe that Enlightment of Siduhat (becoming to the Buddathwaya) is the noblest achievement that a man can. It may be true because although the Buddha could do many things, He didn't do & say. Once He had said that there were many things to say but the paucity of words was the barrier & that those who needed come and see in this way.
Not only Buddha but several of His fellows could achieve that natural power to certain extent. If we leave the religious thinking for a while, Jesus is also a man who could do this to some extent. Some philosophers & scientists are also winners but in limited directions.
What this writer says is that everybody has the natural power if we at least think of it.
Sometimes you may be confused with this almighty power of nature. I may try to describe as my better possibility. However I must say this is beyond our knowledge. This power is constituted of several forces. These forces (as we can think )are of two kinds; physical & mental . Physical forces are taught in physics ( heat, sound, waves; electromagnetic or other Vander Val ,h bonds adhesive, cohesive forces etc. ) & mental forces are being studied in parapsychology & available in Buddhism. There might be another set of forces that may not be relevant to the above two & something that is not understood/ recognized/ discovered yet. the almighty power of nature is able to perform both physical and mental. I think it's enough to describe what like I think of the almighty power of the nature, in religious way, God.

the Bible says, early men, Adam & Ewe were naked & later they prepared some clothing. the writer says there had been a stone era & later they the civilization was in the scene. this indicates the change of the ordinary wild people into a moralistic society. then the story of the Kayne & Abel has been narrated to show to eras which we call ...shepherd & farmers. (In some cases I admit that indicates the interaction of good & bad & the existence of bad in the world.) to say in this way, I've found several points in the Bible. if only there had been only four people in the world why did kayne cultivate something, harvest & offered God for more harvest and why did Abel had a nice herd of sheep ?

It's crystal clear that the writer needed to present the idea of the origin of the universe & about the almighty power of the nature in nutshell & narratively so that normal people were able to grab the meanings. the ability of the writer in thinking & literature here is very appreciatable as it somewhat agrees to the modern theories of the origin. It is not totally agreed. there might have many reasons for that: may be the writer needed only to adulate God, may be translations are not quite ordered.

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i think the origin of the religion may be after the Abraham. Beyond that may be only narrations to express some insights, customs, & cultures. Up to the Abraham's period, the most prevalent beliefs were a sort of polytheism. there had been so many gods & goddesses. it was somewhat wild because there had been some child sacrifications also. However Abraham made a change that was instead of the polytheism, he introduced monotheism & also instead of child sacrifications, animal sacrifications were introduced. however I can't give a defined period for this change. the periods may overlapped.( in the writer's period sacrification of animal or crop harvests were there that's why he used them in Kayne Abel story)

Re: Jesus was a socialist ? a beginning to discuss

AAyubowan apikauda and Sahan and all It's really good to have Apikauda for this sort of discussion Usually you are advising :-$us (sometimes blaming us):( Yes as Apikauda says some of ideas on my religion (which came from my generation ) were studied as much as possible by me. then I realised some of theories of Jesus I really happy that I can say my religion is ok to be followed. However it is not the way that other people follow it. I'm not adhered to some of misconceptions. I just want to follow Jesus who wanted to serve the down trodden people. Who had recognised the tragedies faced by the poor people. And most importantly he had the courage to enlighten people of getting rid of that sufferings he was a real leader I still reiterate that I'm neither christian nor Buddhist by practice. But i'm trying to follow both. To the fact......... Yes as Apikauda says I have my own way of declaring my beliefs. For Confession/Paw samawa There are few steps to be completed to be forgiven by God (or in your view to be safe from the result of the deed-- Karmaya i might say) This idea was developed by me after studying the five precepts of Buddhist Philosophy and presented to a priest he agreed First You must realize You have Perpetrated Then you must be sorry (true to your Conscience) Then you must determine not to do it again (true to your Conscience) (this is enough for non Christians) then You may Promise God about this and really behave as determined. If this happens appropriately your heart will realize that you have been forgiven by God Dear Sahan I have enjoyed once this felicity of forgiving So I believe this And I have determined not to do such a (simple even) mistake. But unfortunately it is rare that Our so called Christians get real forgiving. This idea was valued by a priest but I don't know whether they are using in their discourses. Still I have written some critiques on Bible http://www.geocities.com/pdkfernando/Articles.htm We have to disscuss other things too Wind up here Jesu Pihitai Budu Saranai

--- In [email protected], "apikauda" wrote: > > Dilip Nohoth Magodis > It is up to you to explain what Sahan is saying > we have heard what you are saying about the Paw Samawa Deema > That 5 steps to be completed to gain a real forgiving > Actually we cant remember all. however we must emphasise that to sahan > we could get a better understanding on the Christianity by this guy. > Earlier we thought this guy was spreading his religion but later we > had a better understanding thus we love his religion and his > phylosopies Actually some of them were developed by him > So be careful > > > > --- In [email protected], Sahan kanuwana@ wrote: > > > > Yes dilip, > > > > Really nice to talk with you. Because some arguers are critisizing > other religions without knowing anything. But u are not put in to > that group by me. I will answer your question as follows. > > > > Confession/ Paw Samawa laba Deema > > > > This is a LIE. A man or woman can never escape from the result > coming back to him/her due to his/her evil sins he/she has done except > only one way. > > > > What is the ONE WAY (I will speak very simply - So that any body > can understand) > > > > We CAN avoid SOME OF the evil results coming back to us due to > evil things we have done, DOING Good Things which can cut-off that > evil things and NOT DOING that evil things again. The "NOT DOING" it > is very important. > > > > Apart from that, I dont think that we will be able to avoid bad > result by murmering some verses or what ever do worshiping and just > with our mouth (This is begging, not religion) > > > > Any Religion has no any BEGGING. There are only sequence of > activities to be performed which are not harmfull for other AND self. > Then any body with any religion will acheive the best place. He/She > would be a Christian/Bhuddhist/Hindu.... NO ANY CATEGORIZATION !!! > > > > (Some times jesus may have talked about this for sure as i think. > but not been written. Im sorry if im wrong. You will re-correct me. > But i havent seen or heard that this is said by Jesus from any > christian. I have heard that Juses has told to go for "PAW SAMAWA > DEEMA". BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING SAID BY JESUS. > Becuase jesus's theories are very much familliar to Bhuddha's > Theories. This is a thing that brings a bad image for jesus as i > think. agree dilip ?? ) > > > > Your second question,, > > > > No. Buddha has said how the poppulation increase and decreas in a > religion, how the world has begun, how the world would be ending in > one day.... > > > > Lord Buddha has told that there is a maximum population era for > any religion. Then that population would be decrease gradually. Then > that would be zero. This is how it happens. > > > > This era is called "Kaliyugaya". In next years the no of Bhuddhist > would be increased but this is not a fixed state. Again if would be > Decreasing. > > > > Dilip, another thing, > > > > I like Christians who are really research like persons like you. > Because any religion needs People like us. > > > > Good Credit for you, > > Nice to see you one day. > > > > sahan > > > > > > > > > > prasanga dilip kumar pdkfernando@ wrote: > > > Dear Sahan > > You are dead correct > > I totally agree with it. > > Once, Jesus was preaching to a crowd over 5000 men, widely known as > > Kanda Uda Deshanawa from the dawn to evening. The writers needed to > > write only that Jesus performed a miracal to feed all but they have > > missed what he was preaching so much interestingly that people did not > > leave him. Only few stanzas of his preachings is avilable in the > > Gospel /the Scripts. > > Jesus might have saying many things regarding How to live in peace > > developing the humanity to all. > > However for a person to be a good/better human being, that small > > verses are enough (If only he/she follow true to > themselves/Conscience) > > Sahan What do you think of Confession/ Paw Samawa laba Deema ? > > Sometimes you may badly criticise this. But I must say that most of > > them are not forgiven by God. > > Sahan do you prefer saying that Buddhist are increasing in Number ? > > I'm actually sorry if it is so. > > Regards > > AAyubowan > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Sahan wrote: > > > > > > Exactly. Jesus was also a person with better understanding of the > > reality/life/ society etc > > > > > > But the theories and/or concepts and/or ideas of Jesus were not > > perfectly written down by the authors of the BIBLE. this is my idea. > > > > > > I personally respect and accept any religious leader > > Buddhism/Christianity/Hinduism or any religion > > > > > > JESUS was perfectly true and respectable. BUT Authors of Bible did > > the wrong thing. > > > > > > Agree???? > > > > > > prasanga dilip kumar wrote: > > Well > > > There are some written documents on this fact > > > But I dont believe those as they have been written by the biased > > > people. I have read some of them. But according to the Christianity > > > there are certain major differences between both > > > And also most of the teachings go with each. > > > That doesnt mean for me to say that Jesus was a Buddhist > > > > > > If you re talking about real Buddhists in the world Jesus was > also a > > > person with better understanding of the reality/life/ society etc > > > > > > im also trying to > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Sahan wrote: > > > > > > > > Jesus was a BUDDHIST > > > > > > > > open for args...! > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanga Dilip Kumar Fernando wrote: > > > > Dear Readers > > > > > > > > I have been a Christian from the generation > > > > I wish these facts on Christianity would be informative for those > > > who are > > > > in general discussions before people > > > > > > > > you may consider use these quotes when necessary > > > > > > > > Being a Christian I have noted that there are very few REAL > > > CHRISTIANS IN THE WORLD > > > > SO CALLED CHRISTIAN NATIONS BEHAVE ANTI CHRISTIANITICALLY > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus said love your neighbor - So America loves Cuba > > > ................... ??? > > > > Jesus Was a Leftist A Few Interesting Passage in the Bible.. > > > > What Would Jesus Do? WWJD? A trendy motto often used by > > > born-again teenage christians shopping Wal-Mart; an unsuprisingly > > > simple strategy for creating Jesus freaks out of susceptible > kids. The > > > phrase has been over-marketed and recieved blatant product > placement > > > by companies that support America's corporate religion, > Christianity. > > > > This page was inspired by my own observations of Dr. J (Jesus > > > Christ). I have always felt that the stories were of a social > activist > > > who was killed by the ruling government because of his leftist > radical > > > views (not because they were morally conservative). The Jesus > > > character in the gospel was a humble, radical, egalitarian, > > > vegitarian, feminist-socialist. Try reading the damned book. > > > > So lets see what Jesus H. said and see if he: > > > > > > > > Promoted Religion in Private > > > > Was an Anti-Capitalist > > > > Was a Hippy > > > > Was a Surfer > > > > Was a Communist/Socialist (perhaps the first) > > > > Was an Anarchist > > > > Was Antiwar > > > > Against the Death Penalty > > > > Wouldn't Own a Gun > > > > Was Pro-Choice > > > > Would support gay rights > > > > Other Things Jesus Would Do Today (No references, but you > know he > > > would) > > > > Related Sites > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Promoted Religion in Private Matthew 6:5-8 5 And when you > > > pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray > standing in > > > the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I > tell you > > > the truth, they have received their reward in full. > > > > 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and > pray to > > > your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is > done in > > > secret, will reward you. > > > > 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for > they > > > think they will be heard because of their many words. > > > > 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before > > > you ask him. > > > > See for yourself > > > > Was an Anti-Capitalist Matthew 19:23-26 23 Then Jesus said to > > > his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to > > > enter the kingdom of heaven. > > > > 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through > the eye > > > of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." > > > > 25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly > astonished and > > > asked, "Who then can be saved?" > > > > > > > > my view is that this rich does not indicate money-- it is > the full > > > of greedy ego hatred etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See for yourself > > > > Luke 12:15 15 Then he said to them, "Watch out! Be on your > guard > > > against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the > > > abundance of his possessions." > > > > See for yourself > > > > Was a Hippy > > > > Wore sandals > > > > Had a beard > > > > Had long hair > > > > Spent extended amounts of time in the dessert by himself > > > > Matthew 13:27 27 "The owner's servants came to him and said, > > > `Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did > the weeds > > > come from?' > > > > See for yourself > > > > Also see Genesis 1:11-12 > > > > Was a Surfer > > > > Jesus "walked" on water (Dude!). > > > > Matthew 14:22-25 22 Immediately Jesus made the disciples > get into > > > the boat and go on ahead of him to the other side, while he > dismissed > > > the crowd. > > > > 23 After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by > > > himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone, > > > > 24 but the boat was already a considerable distance from land, > > > buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it. > > > > 25 During the fourth watch of the night Jesus went out to them, > > > walking on the lake. > > > > 26 When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were > > > terrified. "It's a ghost," they said, and cried out in fear. > > > > See for yourself > > > > Was a Communist/Socialist (perhaps the first) Note: > > > > > > > > Both Jesus and Karl Marx were Jewish > > > > Matthew 19:21 21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be > perfect, go, > > > sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have > treasure > > > in heaven. > > > > See for yourself > > > > Acts 4:32-35 32 All the believers were one in heart and > mind. No > > > one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they > shared > > > everything they had. > > > > 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the > > > resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. > > > > 34 There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time > > > those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money > from the > > > sales > > > > 35 and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to > > > anyone as he had need. > > > > See for yourself > > > > Was an Anarchist Mark 10:42-45 42 Jesus called them > together and > > > said, "You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the > Gentiles > > > lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over > > them. > > > > 43 Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great > among you > > > must be your servant, > > > > 44 and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. > > > > 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to > serve, > > > and to give his life as a ransom for many." > > > > > > > > See for yourself > > > > Was Antiwar > > > > Matthew 5:21 21 "You have heard that it was said to the people > > > long ago, `Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to > > > judgment.' > > > > See for yourself > > > > Matthew 5:44 44 "Love your enemies" > > > > See for yourself > > > > Matthew 5:9 9 "Blessed are the peacemakers" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MY VIEW > > > > > > > > but not the peace makers in our country they are RUNNING A > > > LUCRATIVE PEACE AND WAR INDUSTRY > > > > > > > > See for yourself > > > > I Peter 3:8-9 8 Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one > > > another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and > humble. > > > > 9 Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with > > > blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a > > > blessing. > > > > See for yourself > > > > Romans 12:17 17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be > careful to > > > do what is right in the eyes of everybody. > > > > See for yourself > > > > Romams 12:21 21 "Be not overcome with evil, but overcome evil > > > with good." > > > > See for yourself > > > > Matthew 5:9 9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be > > > called sons of God. > > > > See for yourself > > > > James 4:1 1 What causes fights and quarrels among you? > Don't they > > > come from your desires that battle within you? > > > > See for yourself > > > > Was Against the Death Penalty Matthew 5:38-39 38 "You > have heard > > > that it was said, `Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' > > > > 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone > strikes > > > you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. > > > > See for yourself > > > > Was Pro-Choice (proven by what Moses wrote) Exodus 21:22-23 > > > > (Word of God from Moses) 22 "If men who are fighting hit a > pregnant > > > woman and she gives birth prematurely [1] but there is no serious > > > injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband > > > demands and the court allows. > > > > 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, > > > > See for yourself > > > > John 5:46 46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, > for he > > > wrote about me. > > > > See for youself > > > > Wouldn't Own a Gun Matthew 26:52 52 "Put up again thy > sword into > > > his place; for all they that take the sword shall perish with the > > sword." > > > > See for yourself > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Other Things Jesus Would Do Today (No references, but you > know > > > he would) Jesus would picket in solidarity with workers > > > > Jesus would do something about the politicians cutting > welfare and > > > using his name for their own political advancement > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Related Links > > > > Open Directory Project : Jesus Parodies > > > > Return to the Catacombs: Reintroducing the Nonviolent > Jesus - by > > > Archbishop Robert M. Bowman. > > > > What Would Jesus Do? by Ernest Partridge - from The Online > > > Journal October 3, 2002 > > > > Atheists for Jesus - Ken Schei debunking the zealotry of > Christ > > > ever since the apacalypse was supposed to happen and didn't. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Back to Evolve Your Mind > > > > By Aaron Hawley, inspired from other similar works found on the > > net. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dilip Fernando > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit > > > > www.defence.lk > > > > http://pdkfernando.googlepages.com/ > > > > www.geocities.com/pdk_fernando > > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/pdkfernando > > > > > > > > > > > > Sahan Kanuwana > > > > > > BSc in Information Technology > > > Faculty of Information Technology > > > University of Moratuwa > > > Sri Lanka > > > > > > Residence : 0094 33 2293897 > > > Mobile: 0094 77 9264442 > > > > > > > > > Email : kanuwana@, sahan@ > > > Web : http://kp.sahan.googlepages.com/ > > >

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