Leibnitz, Leibnüzius, Leibnütz, Leubnutz, Lubeniecz
No doubt (by several sources) G.W. Leibnitz was also known as Lubeniecz ; the 'cz' spelling Polish ; it seems the consecution of letters does not occur in any other language (except perhaps in Hungarian, where it might be not at all connected with the Polish phonetics or graphics).
This is equivalent of 'ch' in Croatian, often so rendered in the Latinised (Englished?) spelling of the Russian names and sometimes other Slav names ; cf. also a German version 'tch' ; the Czech has a 'c' with a hacek on the top of it. Any of these represent a ch as in 'church' in the English.
One web page gives that one of the grandfathers of G.W. Leibnitz came from Poland, by the name of Lubieniecki — who had left Poland due to the religious persecutions there at the time.
This looks entirely plausible ; for there have been a notable family in Poland at the time by the name of Lubieniecki ; some of its members were among the Socinian (Unitarian) group, which denomination were eventually expelled from Poland in 1658-60. The religious controversy was going on much earlier than that, it had only intensified round the given dates.
In 1632, by my memory (and where are any of those damn historicans to see what can be relevant ?), a Krzysztof Nicki had left Poland due to just such reasons. One of his descendants was the famous philosopher F. Nietzsche — who was, on credible reports, usually proud of his Polish ancestry and would on occasion make a point of it. He would sometimes sign himself as Graf von Nietzky : this being a pretty good equivalent of the phonetic spelling in the German of the Polish name Nicki.
WHERE HAS ALL THE (expletive suppressed) ACADEMIA BEEN ALL THIS TIME ?
To tell me something more certain about these matters ?
Some sites give that Leibnitz' "name was Slavonic but he came from a German family" etc. That is very good ; but why did the German family in question bear a Slavonic name ?
No German family could have a Slavic name without there having been some anterior Slavic connection present, Professor !
Unless there had been either a Miricle or a Mistake. So far as I know, the German families had not usually had Slavonic family names ; unless they lived in Poland and might have adjusted the spelling of the name ; or came from Poland and had adjusted the spelling to fit with the German graphics.
But there could have been no Slav name in either case without some Slav connection. Were it to be so : then where is any damn Professor of anything at all to explain this (to me etc) ?
In the meanwhile I found some Lubieniecki data in the Iternet (correct or incorret.
Andrzej Lubieniecki d. 1623 pisarz ariański
Andrzej młodszy Lubieniecki (ur. 1590) twórca sylwy zawierającej materiały do dziejów arianizmu
Jan Damascen Lubieniecki d. 1714 prowincjał dominikanów; biskup bakowski
Jan Paweł Lubieniecki d. "przed 1711" generał-adiutant; chorąży nowogrodzki
Jan Henryk Lubieniecki 1877 - 1947 profesor chorób wewnętrznych
Julian Lubieniecki 1802 - 1862 pszczelarz
Krzysztof Lubieniecki 1561 - 1624 pisarz ariański
Krzysztof Lubieniecki 1598 - 1648 minister ariański
Krzysztof Lubieniecki 1659 - 1729 malarz; rytownik
Stanisław Lubieniecki d. 1633 teolog ariański; polemista; wierszopis
Stanisław młodszy Lubieniecki 1623 - 1675 pisarz i działacz ariański;
historyk; astronom
Stefan Lubieniecki 1713 - 1777 biskup unicki i ostrogski
Teodor Bogdan Lubieniecki d. "ok. 1718" malarz; grafik
Teodozy Lubieniecki d. 1751 biskup unicki łucki i ostrogski
Walerian Lubieniecki d. "1617?" biskup bakowski; bernardyn; uczestnik wojen przeciw TurkomKrzysztof Lubieniecki 1561 - 1624 pisarz ariański would seem to fit with an idea of a grandfather of G.W. Leibnitz (Lubeniecz). Or maybe
Krzysztof Lubieniecki 1598 - 1648 minister ariańskWHERE is all this scholarship ? I see thousands of pages upon thousands in the Internet, on the Polish, the German, the Polish/German etc., etc., matters : for the most part something I could not in any way use to anything I for one would ever care about. (So long as they make any sense at all and are not some unmeaning idiocy or plain fraud : which the learned Doctors seem utterly unable to notice, most of the time — by my present day knowledge, some of it quite hard won).
May there be some notice taken of the Lubeniecz (Leibnitz) somewhere ?
"Stanisław Lubieniecki (German: Stanislaus de Lubienietz, also Lubiniezky or Lubyenyetsky [?] ) (b. August 23, 1623 in Raków - May 18, 1675 in Hamburg) was a Polish astronomer, historian and writer as well as a Socinian theologist." Was there connection, Professor ? Or was there not ?
WPT, Oct 07