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In a message of 14-Feb-00, Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote to me: >> Depois de ver os meus posts nas news acabei de ver agora isto: >> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 36 03:19:00 >> X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) >> >> 1936,2036? Esta vers�o tem bug Y2K? > Peguei um Y2k da bios de um 486 interessante como esse a�. Quando chega a > 2000 pula para 2094. Como a bios � de 1994, se tentar colocar num ano > abaixo tamb�m pula para 2094. > O autor do Thor j� deve estar a parte do bug. Sim,pelo menos o update para a vers�o 2.6a tem alguma informa��o sobre este bug.Mas voltar a descargar mais de 1.5MB so' para corrigir este defeito nos meus "posts" acho que de momento n�o vale a pena. -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: "JE M�dia Visual" Data: 16/02/2000, 22:09 Assunto: Desculpas Pe�o desculpas pelo envio da mensagem "PASSEM RAPIDAMENTE", foi liberado para um funcion�rio enviar aquela mensagem para alguns amigos pessoais e ele acabou por incluir outros sem autoriza��o (provid�ncias j� foram tomadas). Mas pelo menos eu pude ver que meus e-mails chegam at� � lista, j� que pedi por duas vezes alguma informa��o sobre como recuperar um Amiga 2000 que possuo e at� hoje n�o recebi nenhum retorno por menor que seja. Um abra�o, J�LIO. [topo] De: Andre Luiz Ribeiro Simoes Data: 16/02/2000, 16:20 Assunto: RES: Passem rapidamente JE M�dia Visual, Desculpe polemizar, mas que mensagem sem p� nem cabe�a, isso l� � menssagem que se mande para uma lista! Ainda mais Lista de Amiga, que nem de longe tem haver com essas duas empresas. Andr� Simons 15/02/2000 [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 16/02/2000, 00:27 Assunto: Passem rapidamente On Tue, Feb 15, 2000, at 08:37 PM, Dorivalter D'Angelo Junior wrote: > Sem bronca, mas quando voc� receber me mande um e-mail com uma imagem > escaneada do que voc� recebeu cheque, saldo de conta, sei la, ai talvez eu > passe a acreditar e talvez pare at� de trabalhar e passe os dias mandando > e-mail. > > Nada pessoal em, s� falta de f� nesta mina de ouro dos tempos modernos. Conhe�o corrente h� muito tempo e at� funciona se ningu�m parar. Mas essa a� do tio Bill pagar tudo... A n�o ser que necessite fazer algumas doa��es para escapar do imposto de renda, h�! Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Dorivalter D'Angelo Junior Data: 15/02/2000, 20:37 Assunto: Passem rapidamente Sem bronca, mas quando voc� receber me mande um e-mail com uma imagem escaneada do que voc� recebeu cheque, saldo de conta, sei la, ai talvez eu passe a acreditar e talvez pare at� de trabalhar e passe os dias mandando e-mail. Nada pessoal em, s� falta de f� nesta mina de ouro dos tempos modernos. [topo] De: "JE M�dia Visual" Data: 15/02/2000, 13:24 Assunto: Passem rapidamente >Subject: Re: En: Passem rapidamente! >Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:44:51 -0300 > > > > > > > > >Eduardo Z Fontana >04/02/2000 14:09 > >cc: >Subject: Re: En: Passem rapidamente! (Document link: Marcelo B Agostini) > > > > > >Fausto E Lima >04/02/2000 07:42 > >cc: >Subject: Re: En: Passem rapidamente! (Document link: Eduardo Z Fontana) > > > > > >Gislaine Vanderwegen >03/02/2000 17:06 > >Joao B >Salete >W >Norival >Gilmar >cc: >Subject: En: Passem rapidamente! > >se for verdade, ser� otimo >---------------------- Forwarded by Gislaine Vanderwegen/Multibras on >03/02/2000 >16:55 --------------------------- > > >Edmundo Bini >03/02/2000 16:23 > >Margarete >Neide >Fabio >cc: >Subject: En: Passem rapidamente! > > >---------------------- Forwarded by Edmundo Bini/Multibras on 03/02/2000 >16:21 >--------------------------- > > > >Edmundo >cc: >Subject: En: Passem rapidamente! > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sandra Aparecida do Prado Pereira >Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 8:07 AM >Subject: Passem rapidamente! > > >Assunto: Passem rapidamente > > > > > > Prezados e queridos amigos, leiam esta carta e >ajam > > > rapidamente > > > > > > Estou enviando esta Carta para voc�s porque recebi a informa��o > > > por parte e um profissional e amigo. > > > > > > A MICROSOFT e AOL (Am�rica On Line), atualmente as duas > > > maiores empresas da Internet, para garantir ao Internet Explorer a > > > posi��o de programa de navega��o mais usado, est�o testando > > > uma vers�o beta do > > > programa. > > > > > > Ao enviar esta carta aos seus amigos, ela ser� conferida pela > > > MICROSOFT (� preciso que os seus amigos usem o Microsoft > > > Windows) ao longo de duas semanas. > > > > > > MICROSOFT pagar� U$ 245 para cada pessoa � qual voc�s > > > enviarem esta carta. MICROSOFT pagar� a voc�s U$243 para > > > cada carta forwardada e pagar� U$ 241 para cada terceira pessoa > > > � qual voc�senviarem > > > esta comunica��o. > > > > > > Daqui a duas semanas MICROSOFT entrar� em contato com > > > voc�s via e-mail e lhes despachar� o cheque. > > > No in�cio eu duvidei... at� que depois de duas semanas recebi > > > via e-mail a comunica��o e, poucos dias a > > > seguir, o cheque de U$24.800-. > > > > > > Voc�s devem enviar esta comunica��o imediatamente, antes que > > > termine o prazo do teste da vers�o beta do Internet Explorer. > > > Quem banca tudo isso � o senhor Bill Gates > > >********************************************************************** >This email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. >********************************************************************** ><< att1.htm >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 15/02/2000, 00:48 Assunto: Amiga e H&P Amiga e Haage&Partner firmam parceria de produ��o. http://www.amiga.de/diary/2000/02-14-e.html Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: JE Midiavisual Data: 14/02/2000, 19:23 Assunto: PRIVATE HELP !! Temos um Amiga 2000 com Toaster 2000 - Placa aceleradora Fusion Forty - Dois TBCs - e controladora para HD SCSI. Tivemos problema com o HD e perdemos tudo s� restou os discos para instala��o da Toaster e dos TBCs, preciso do workbench e do software da placa aceleradora. Ficariamos muito gratos por qualquer ajuda. MUUUUUUUITO OBRIGADO! [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 14/02/2000, 14:30 Assunto: Re: THOR tem bug Y2K? Carlos Serra wrote: > Depois de ver os meus posts nas news acabei de ver agora isto: Parece que alguns softs de QWK e Bluewave tamb�m t�m o erro. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Seu cr�nio � t�o bonito que d� at� vontade de arrancar sua cabe�a! [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 14/02/2000, 14:30 Assunto: THOR tem bug Y2K? On Sun, Feb 13, 2000, at 08:59 PM, Carlos Serra wrote: > > Depois de ver os meus posts nas news acabei de ver agora isto: > > Subject: Re: Video sur moniteur RVB (CGA) > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 36 03:19:00 > Newsgroups: fr.sci.electronique > X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) > > 1936,2036? Esta vers�o tem bug Y2K? Peguei um Y2k da bios de um 486 interessante como esse a�. Quando chega a 2000 pula para 2094. Como a bios � de 1994, se tentar colocar num ano abaixo tamb�m pula para 2094. O autor do Thor j� deve estar a parte do bug. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 13/02/2000, 20:59 Assunto: THOR tem bug Y2K? Depois de ver os meus posts nas news acabei de ver agora isto: Subject: Re: Video sur moniteur RVB (CGA) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 36 03:19:00 Newsgroups: fr.sci.electronique X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) 1936,2036? Esta vers�o tem bug Y2K? -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 10/02/2000, 22:16 Assunto: Novidades sobre a Boxer M� not�cia por um lado, boa not�cia por outro. A placa continua em desenvolvimento: http://www.blittersoft.com/cgi-bin/2/webc.cgi/~bsoft/BoXeR.html --- BoXeR based Systems The BoXeR motherboard has been substantially updated over the last few months. The developer, Mick Tinker, has read many emails and has been active in conferences and there have been many comments and suggestions. Not being deaf or blind to the changes in technology and component pricing since the BoXeR was originally conceived it was decided that the original BoXeR design was out of date before it was ready to ship, hence the BoXeR has been redesigned from scratch. Current status of development There is a new prototype board currently in production, it will be back for development to continue in a few days. There haven't been many major changes to the specification since it was last updated. Even when the board is back there is the laborious task of powering it up in stages, developing additional logic to support features and making sure everything works as intended. We are expecting 2-3 months of development time from when the board is back in before it is at the stage where it can be released for production. There is a dual USB interface, this is currently designed to evaluate the implementation and weare making no commitment to ship in the final build, however we would like to think that we are not wasting design time on something that's not going to stick around! USB does require a fairly complex set of drivers to support the basic operation as well as the wide range of devices that could be connected. We have not initiated any software to cover this at this time, it is more than likely that the specification of the interface will be made freely available so that a keen developer can pick up the task. No enquiries about the implementation and operation please until we have at least had the chance to make sure the hardware is working and a development board is available. How does it work? Memory bus The SDRAM is 64-bits wide and has a direct connection to the PowerPC, this feeds the ravenous demands of a high speed RISC processor. The PowerPC is able to burst to and from the SDRAM, giving a substantial memory bandwidth. The MC68040/060 has a relatively slow 32-bit data bus so a bridge is required. When reading, the SDRAM supplies 64-bits of data, this is latched and held in the bridge so that the SDRAM can be released or can start its next cycle. On any given cycle the 680x0 will be reading the upper or lower half of the bus, therefore that proportion is passed straight to the processor. If this is a simple one cycle access the other half of the bus is held just in case the next access is from the location that is already held - removing the need for a further memory access. For a multi-cycle burst (a 16 byte cache line fill) as soon as the first access to SDRAM is complete and latched in the bridge another one is started, by the time the 2 halves of the bus have been read out of the bridge the next 64-bits will have arrived from and are latch to start completing the second half of the burst. Notice that in this operation the 680x0 is carrying out a full or near full speed burst, while the SDRAM is carrying out 2 separate memory cycles. During a write the operation is similar, but in reverse. The current logic is only connected to the 32-bit bus (a limitation on the number of pins on the devices used for prototyping), however it is able to carry out high speed data transfers so that true bust cycles can be used with the SDRAM, effectively providing a double data rate 32-bit bus. BoXeR current feature set Technical Information List (May change without notice): 100% Amiga compatible. ATX motherboard based on Amiga technology - fits in ANY standard PC Desktop/Tower case. Motorola 68040 or 68060 at 25-75MHz supported in a single processor socket. Integrated single chip chip-set, AGA feature compatible but with performance enhancements. Most peripherals support high speed DMA transfers, increasing throughput while reducing processor overhead. No CHIP RAM limits. 2 x 64-bit DIMM sockets for combined use as FAST/CHIP. Dual IDE Hard disk interface, supports fast IDE modes, including UDMA. Flash ROM 2Mb, 32 bit wide. Used to boot operating system and resident modules. Floppy disk drive interface, supporting DF0: and DF1: directly and DF2:/DF3: option. CD-ROM audio input connector and mixer. Real Time Clock. Keyboard port for standard low cost PC PS/2 keyboard or Amiga Keyboard. Mouse port for standard low cost PC PS/2 mouse. 4 x Active PCI slots. Amiga Video slot. Expansion connector to support 2xZorro 3 slots. Connector for full 64-bit PowerPC expansion card. Dual USB interface. (currently not committed to stay final design) Connectors : Printer port (buffered with DMA transfers). RGB video (VGA connector). PS/2 Keyboard. PS/2 Mouse. Serial port (buffered with DMA transfers). Dual Joystick port. Stereo audio. IDE - 40 pin (Dual) header Floppy drive DF0:/DF1: header. Key Design Points : Single chip chip-set with AGA feature and register compatibility Completely new logic to achieve the highest performance and most flexible design. No limits to CHIP RAM size. Supports 68040 or 68060 from 25MHz - 75MHz. Designed to achieve low system cost. Supports industry standard DIMM's. Mounts in standard PC ATX case. (Huge selection of cases available from a wide range of suppliers at the lowest price points) Processor connector to support a low cost PowerPC upgrade. PPC only systems possible when using appropriate emulation software Live working PCI slots to support low cost peripherals such as graphics, ethernet, sound cards, etc. FlashROM allows software and hardware updates. Copyright Blittersoft 1999-2000 --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 10/02/2000, 18:46 Assunto: Re: Procuro utilitario. In a message of 09-Feb-00, Nautilus wrote to me: >> O multiview da' para fazer SAVE da imagem mas fica so' a 256cores. >Estranho, pois aqui ele salva no modo que o datatype abriu. Isto ja' n�o sei.Aqui faz um SAVE em IFF com 256cores... -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 10/02/2000, 18:46 Assunto: Re: Phase5 pede fal�ncia Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote: > Deveriam ter seguido o exemplo da Apple lan�ando um emulador 68k. O que > adianta lan�ar um PPC nativo sem softwares? O primeiro micro que vi foi um Foi um somat�rio de eventos e estrat�gias desastradas e desastrosas. Muito ruim isso, muito mesmo. > Tamb�m com a nova placa s� com PPC (mais barata), ninguem mais se interessaria > pela Phase5. Essa nova placa da Metabox vai pelo mesmo caminho, pois � car�ssima. Com PC e Mac custando cerca de US$1000 e Playstation2 custando menos de US$400, fica dif�cil algu�m querer pagar US$450 numa simples acel de Amiga... Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 10/02/2000, 12:14 Assunto: Phase5 pede fal�ncia On Wed, Feb 9, 2000, at 07:49 PM, Nautilus wrote: > P�ssima not�cia... Culpa, em parte, da pr�pria Phase5. Se ela tivesse > lan�ado as aceleradoras PowerPC em larga escala e h� mais tempo atr�s, > n�o chegaria a esse ponto. Vale lembrar que a empresa tamb�m faz > aceleradora PowerPC para Mac, ou seja, a culpa da fal�ncia da Phase5 > n�o � decorrente exclusivamente da situa��o inst�vel do Amiga. Deveriam ter seguido o exemplo da Apple lan�ando um emulador 68k. O que adianta lan�ar um PPC nativo sem softwares? O primeiro micro que vi foi um Radio Shack (TRS) h� 22 anos (parecido o Apple II) e nunca vi um fabricante colocar no mercado um computador sem um pacote de softwares! Outro erro foi confiar em algumas empresas e programadores que prometeram criar bons softwares para PPC (como o Holger Kruse)... Tamb�m com a nova placa s� com PPC (mais barata), ninguem mais se interessaria pela Phase5. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Mar Data: 10/02/2000, 02:23 Assunto: Re: Phase5 pede fal�ncia Meleeeeeeeeca! Mar -----Mensagem original----- Data: Quarta-feira, 9 de Fevereiro de 2000 19:43 Assunto: Phase5 pede fal�ncia >P�ssima not�cia... Culpa, em parte, da pr�pria Phase5. Se ela tivesse >lan�ado as aceleradoras PowerPC em larga escala e h� mais tempo atr�s, >n�o chegaria a esse ponto. Vale lembrar que a empresa tamb�m faz >aceleradora PowerPC para Mac, ou seja, a culpa da fal�ncia da Phase5 >n�o � decorrente exclusivamente da situa��o inst�vel do Amiga. > >http://www.amiga-news.de/archiv/0037.shtml >--- >Press release from Phase5 >Application for insolvency was made > >Source: Fax from Phase 5 dated 02/09/2000 14.43 h > >�Oberursel, 02/09/2000: On January 26., 2000 application for insolvency >was made about the property of phase 5 digital production, and the >application proceedings has been established by a decee made by the >competent county court at the same day. During the regular application >procedure there are negotiations about assumption, and continuation of >the Amiga technology field with among others prospective buyers. By >that, continuation of the current development and products shall be >attained, espacially as for the new G4 acceleration boards. > >Every customer who did product preordering from and product prepayment >to phase5 digital products will become informed about their objective >rights in writing, once the insolvency proceeding will be established.� > >(English Translation from Martina Jacobs ) > >Anmerkung der Redaktion: >Annotation from editors: > >Vorl�ufiger Insolvenzverwalter: >Provisional administrator of insolvency proceeding: > >Angelika Amend >Am Aufstieg 10 >61476 Kronberg >Tel. 0049 (0)6173/940341 > >� 1997/2000 - amiga-news.de - Am Kleff 31 - 40699 Erkrath - Tel. >02104/35040 - FAX: 02104/803047 - Verantwortlich: Petra Struck >--- > > Tchau, > > Nautilus > http://nautilus.home.dhs.org > > 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) > (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) > >--- Quem conseguiria romper o super-h�mem da Mulher Maravilha? > > [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 09/02/2000, 18:49 Assunto: Phase5 pede fal�ncia P�ssima not�cia... Culpa, em parte, da pr�pria Phase5. Se ela tivesse lan�ado as aceleradoras PowerPC em larga escala e h� mais tempo atr�s, n�o chegaria a esse ponto. Vale lembrar que a empresa tamb�m faz aceleradora PowerPC para Mac, ou seja, a culpa da fal�ncia da Phase5 n�o � decorrente exclusivamente da situa��o inst�vel do Amiga. http://www.amiga-news.de/archiv/0037.shtml --- Press release from Phase5 Application for insolvency was made Source: Fax from Phase 5 dated 02/09/2000 14.43 h �Oberursel, 02/09/2000: On January 26., 2000 application for insolvency was made about the property of phase 5 digital production, and the application proceedings has been established by a decee made by the competent county court at the same day. During the regular application procedure there are negotiations about assumption, and continuation of the Amiga technology field with among others prospective buyers. By that, continuation of the current development and products shall be attained, espacially as for the new G4 acceleration boards. Every customer who did product preordering from and product prepayment to phase5 digital products will become informed about their objective rights in writing, once the insolvency proceeding will be established.� (English Translation from Martina Jacobs ) Anmerkung der Redaktion: Annotation from editors: Vorl�ufiger Insolvenzverwalter: Provisional administrator of insolvency proceeding: Angelika Amend Am Aufstieg 10 61476 Kronberg Tel. 0049 (0)6173/940341 � 1997/2000 - amiga-news.de - Am Kleff 31 - 40699 Erkrath - Tel. 02104/35040 - FAX: 02104/803047 - Verantwortlich: Petra Struck --- Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Quem conseguiria romper o super-h�mem da Mulher Maravilha? [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 09/02/2000, 18:49 Assunto: Estoque Randomize A Randomize est� liberando estoque e pondo a venda diversos produtos. http://www.randomize.com/amigaproducts/inventory.html --- INVENTORY CLEAR-OUT Randomize went through our inventory at the end of the year and dug deep to find some goodies. We hav the following inventory items that we'd really like to get rid of. We've put a price with most of the items but we are happy to accept an offer on items if you feel that is appropriate. Items are new unless otherwised marked an "used". There are limited quanties of these itmes, sales will made first come, first serve until the stock is gone. A1200 Parts Item Price A1200 Case - Plastic Shell Only $10 US, $15 CDN A1200 Case - Plastic Shell and Metal Shield $12 US, $18 CDN A1200 Case - Plastic Shell, Metal Shield and keyboard $20 US, $30 CDN A1200 Case - Plastic Shell, Metal Shield, Keyboard and Floppy Drive (original Low Density) $30 US, $45 CDN A1200 Case - Plastic Shell, Metal Shield, Keyboard, Floppy Drive (original Low Density) and Power Supply $40 US, $60 CDN A1200 Keyboard $12 US, $18 CDN A1200 Floppy Drive (original Low Density) $12 US, $18 CDN A1200 Power Supply (North American Standard) $12 US, $18 CDN Seagate ST9240AG 210MB 2.5" IDE Hard Drive - Used $60 US, $90 CDN Quantum Europa 540AT 540MB 2.5" IDE Hard Drive - Used $140 US, $210 CDN Power Computing / ELBox Power Flyer (Ultra ATA/IDE & 4 Way Adapter> $60 US, $90 CDN Apollo 030/40Mhz $140 US, $210 CDN ** Special ** Silent Paws - PAWS (Portable Amiga Workstation) - You always wanted a Amiga LapTop! Make an Offer Silent Paws - PAWSTrac Microball (Trackball) for any Amiga $25 US, $37.50 CDN Misc Parts Item Price DKB Spitfire $93 US, $140 CDN Commodore A2060 Arcnet Card - Used $33 US, $50 CDN Commodore A2065 Ethernet Card - Used $100 US, $150 CDN RBM IOBlix $170 US, $250 CDN GVP Spectrum $190 US, $280 CDN Emplant Basic (No SCSI, No Serial) - Used software and manual Make an Offer Emplant SCSI (No Serial) Make an Offer GVP PhonePak - Used - software, no manual Make an Offer DCTV - Used software and manual Make an Offer Nucleaus Persnal Editor (includes Single Frame Recorder) - Used software and manual Make an Offer VillageTronic PalomaIV PAL Make an Offer DKB Multistart (for A2000 - to have selectable Boot Roms) $27 US, $40 CDN DPS Personal Amimation Recorder (PAR) NTSC - Used software and manual Make an Offer Migraph 2400 Flatbed Scanner - Used software and manuals Make an Offer Misc Software Item Price Multicam Editor $117 US, $175 CDN Pyromania (Amiga Version) $117 US, $175 CDN Cloanto Personal Paint 7.1b - Special Continues $33 US, $50 CDN ClickBoom - Capital Punishment Make an Offer GPFax v. 2.35 (latest)/TD> Make an Offer PCTask v. 4.0 - Used Make an Offer Almathera Bundle incl. Ten-on-Ten Pack, 3D Arena, EuroScene 1 & 2, Fractal Universe - Used Make an Offer Almathera - Club Amiga de Montread - Public Domain Collection - Used Make an Offer Digita / Cloant Personal Paint 7 with v. 4 & 5 Manual (we'll throw in Personal Paint 7.1 CD) Make an Offer Digita Organiser V2 Make an Offer VillageTronic AmiTCP/IP Make an Offer For our listing of products for Towered A1200, see out A1200 Tower Parts page. To order any of the above products, simply email us at or call us at 1-888-Randomize (1-888-726-3664). The most economic method os shippment is via Post. Shipping rates start from $10 US, $15 CDN. We accept Visa as payment or pre-payment via a money order. ---- Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Quem conseguiria romper o super-h�mem da Mulher Maravilha? [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 09/02/2000, 12:52 Assunto: Falsos na Aminet Quando baixarem algo recente da Aminet, sempre confiram se � algo realmente original (de fonte fidedigna) e sempre passe um antiv�rus no arquivo antes de execut�-lo. Est�o aparecendo regularmente cavalos-de-tr�ia por l�, normalmente se passando por atualiza��es de softs. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 09/02/2000, 12:52 Assunto: Re: Procuro utilitario. Carlos Serra wrote: > O multiview da' para fazer SAVE da imagem mas fica so' a 256cores. Estranho, pois aqui ele salva no modo que o datatype abriu. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Exige muito de ti mesmo, e espera pouco dos outros. [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 08/02/2000, 23:08 Assunto: Procuro utilitario. In a message of 07-Feb-00, Renato Sabbado wrote to me: >>Procuro utilitario para corregir o tamanho de certas imagems JPEG que >>tiro da inet.E' que estas imagems acabem por ter uma resolu��o de >>4000x5000 ou coisa parecida e so' tem na verdade 500x600.O PPaint parece >>reconhe�er o tamanho certo mas acaba por fazer uma redu��o para 256 cores, >>o que � pouco para um JPEG.Procuro ent�o um utilitario para corregir o >>tamanho sem mexer na qualidade da imagem. >Tente este: >http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/aminet/gfx/gfxcon.lha N�o da! Por exemplo um JPEG de 418x630 acaba no GFXCON por ter uma resolu��o de 3776x70740 !!! -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 08/02/2000, 23:08 Assunto: Re: Procuro utilitario. In a message of 08-Feb-00, Nautilus wrote to me: >> Parece que sim,mas fica tb so' com 256 cores. >Ah, eu uso um datatype que permite configurar com >quantas cores quer abrir (8 cores � HAM8), com ou sem >dither, etc. O multiview da' para fazer SAVE da imagem mas fica so' a 256cores. > >> Este tb n�o funciona,da' erro no JPEG.Mas a idea n�o e' ver a imagem >> mas sim para poder imprimir a mesma em papel! >Quando quero imprimir uma imagem a partir do Amiga, uso >o soft que acompanha o sistema de impress�o e drivers >StudioII. Utiliso o GraphicsPublisher do TurboPrint. -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 07/02/2000, 12:15 Assunto: Ziriax, Zarathrusta, e Deliverance Jogos de nave gr�tis para download: Ziriax, Zarathrusta, e Deliverance http://users.pandora.be/peter.verswyvelen/ Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 07/02/2000, 23:41 Assunto: Re: Procuro utilitario. Carlos Serra wrote: > Parece que sim,mas fica tb so' com 256 cores. Ah, eu uso um datatype que permite configurar com quantas cores quer abrir (8 cores � HAM8), com ou sem dither, etc. > Este tb n�o funciona,da' erro no JPEG.Mas a idea n�o e' ver a imagem > mas sim para poder imprimir a mesma em papel! Quando quero imprimir uma imagem a partir do Amiga, uso o soft que acompanha o sistema de impress�o e drivers StudioII. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 07/02/2000, 23:21 Assunto: Executive Update Palavras encorajadoras e animadoras, e com os p�s no ch�o: http://www.amiga.de/diary/executive/update03022000.html --- AMIGA - EXECUTIVE UPDATE February 4, 2000 Greetings to one and all: A great deal has occurred over the last couple of weeks, and it is only going to get more interesting as we move forward. It has been some time since I spoke with you, and I wanted to share some of the fun. In the last two weeks we have announced our new foundation partner, started technical training with our new development team, and had many meetings with future technology partners The responses have been overwhelmingly positive and, to quote an old song "they ain't seen nothing yet". On January 8, 2000 at CES in Las Vegas we announced our partnership with the Tao-Group as our foundation OS partner. This is not just a technical but a strategic relationship and brings with it great rewards. I have asked Fleecy to write a short document highlighting the Amiga/Tao relationship from a more technical perspective, to save you from having to put up with my telling everyone how incredibly great and fantastic it is. We want you to make your own minds up. In the next two weeks we will make another strategic partnership announcement with regards to the new path for Amiga. As with all our announcements, look at it against the whole picture and not in isolation. After a week long trip to Germany and the UK I have come back with a much better understanding of what we can and cannot do. As mentioned before we are not going to make promises or product announcements. We will announce to you, the community, only after the deal is signed or the product is sitting before us. This won't put a stop to rumours, but it will make them all the more obvious. Change brings uncertainty, and in an information vacuum, mischief makers like to take the spotlight. If it isn't officially sanctioned by Amiga, don't believe it. Our job as a company is to create exciting market opportunities for Amiga developers to take advantage of, and to give Amiga users a platform they can enjoy. This requires more than just an upgrade to the existing OS. This requires, indeed demands a complete strategy reaching into all areas of the present and the future. The time has come for all of us to move forwards, owner, developer, and user. Many of you have sent us business proposals, and product marketing ideas, and for this we thank you, and ask for your patience as we look over them. Some are providing us with valuable insight into the desires of the Amiga community as a whole, others are providing us with a good chuckle. This is the Amiga advantage that other platforms just do not share. Over the next few months there may be some companies that come out with their own plans, or state that we do not have the community at heart as we move forwards. The reality is, they do not know what we have planned. In order to stay focused and to keep up our incredible pace, we are not sharing our plans outside of our signed partnerships. We have to prioritise and act singlemindedly if we are to reach our first plateau in our given timescales. Once there we will be able to pause for breath. Some are not happy about this, but they do not know the full plan. Our mission is not just about restoring the Amiga, but about pushing it forwards as THE technology for tomorrow. This means that if you hear something annoying, or frustrating, or downright nasty, and the source is not Amiga Inc, then disregard it. Plain and simple. If you did not hear it from us, or read it here on this web site it is not true. We are not asking for your trust or your undying belief. We only ask that you take us on OUR words and deeds, not on the misinterpretations of others. We will soon be starting official meetings in Europe, the UK, and the US for developers and dealers. This will include introductory training seminars for the new OS, and introductions to the retail pricing and schedules. We will also begin the process of introducing the new web site, and putting the Amiga Advisory Council to work. I want to thank each and every one of you for your hospitality during our meetings and for your continued support as we move forwards. We have had the chance to meet with many end users, developers, dealers, and new partners, and look forwards to meeting even more of you as time goes on. There is a great deal of activity, with a lot of first footsteps on some truly amazing paths. New partners excited, old faces returning, familiar faces reminding us of our heritage. Indeed we are already having to move into bigger facilities, such is our rate of growth. I know it can be frustrating but after years wandering lost in a dark place, the sun is finally starting to crack a smile on the horizon. Together, we will march into tomorrow. Keeping the faith, Bill McEwen and the rest of the Amiga Team. Copyright by AMIGA --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 07/02/2000, 19:32 Assunto: Re: Procuro utilitario. In a message of 05-Feb-00, Nautilus wrote to me: >> o que � pouco para um JPEG.Procuro ent�o um utilitario para corregir o >> tamanho sem mexer na qualidade da imagem. > Pelos datatypes n�o funciona? Parece que sim,mas fica tb so' com 256 cores. > De qualquer modo, experimente esse aqui: > http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/aminet/gfx/show/FastJPEG_1.10.lha Este tb n�o funciona,da' erro no JPEG.Mas a idea n�o e' ver a imagem mas sim para poder imprimir a mesma em papel! -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Renato Sabbado Data: 07/02/2000, 17:58 Assunto: Procuro utilitario. >Procuro utilitario para corregir o tamanho de certas imagems JPEG que >tiro da inet.E' que estas imagems acabem por ter uma resolu��o de >4000x5000 ou coisa parecida e so' tem na verdade 500x600.O PPaint parece >reconhe�er o tamanho certo mas acaba por fazer uma redu��o para 256 cores, >o que � pouco para um JPEG.Procuro ent�o um utilitario para corregir o >tamanho sem mexer na qualidade da imagem. Tente este: http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/aminet/gfx/gfxcon.lha T+ ----------------------- Renato Sabbado Cruz UIN: 40912413 ----------------------- "A imagina��o � mais importante que o conhecimento." - Albert Einstein ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 07/02/2000, 12:14 Assunto: AMozilla Para saber como anda o desenvolvimento/porte do Mozilla (Communicator 5) visite: http://home.att.net/~Amiga401/amigamozilla.htm Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 06/02/2000, 00:50 Assunto: Tales of Tamar O novo jogo parece estar indo de vento em popa. http://www.tamar.net Na �rea de downloads h� os betas para download, mas s� para jogadores de teste registrados. --- Tales of Tamar Maybe you heard some rumours about our project through the internet. We�d like to thank you for you interest and taking the first step by visiting our homepage. We hope you will get the detailed information about the game on the following pages you expected. So, first of all the main question: What is "Tales of Tamar" ? "Tales of Tamar" features some new innovations in computer-games. If you take a look at the actual realm of computer-games you may find a lot of brilliant games for PC and/or Playstation. They show us breathtaking intros and 3D-effects but end up in a weak gameplay... Havn�t you also bought a game which you played for about two months or maybe less, and asked yourself this question afterwards: "Why didn�t they make it any better...." On one hand strategic games don�t bear complexity and high pricing but on the other hand there is sometimes a bad network support or you simply miss the quality of the stuff. If you ask yourself about the important things to be placed in such a game in order to become one of the best of this kind, you�ll have to write some notes. --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 05/02/2000, 20:00 Assunto: Re: Procuro utilitario. Carlos Serra wrote: > Procuro utilitario para corregir o tamanho de certas imagems JPEG que > tiro da inet.E' que estas imagems acabem por ter uma resolu��o de > 4000x5000 ou coisa parecida e so' tem na verdade 500x600.O PPaint parece > reconhe�er o tamanho certo mas acaba por fazer uma redu��o para 256 cores, > o que � pouco para um JPEG.Procuro ent�o um utilitario para corregir o > tamanho sem mexer na qualidade da imagem. Pelos datatypes n�o funciona? De qualquer modo, experimente esse aqui: http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/aminet/gfx/show/FastJPEG_1.10.lha � um visualizador muito r�pido e roda em qualquer Amiga. FastJPEG Small utility to view JPEG picture files. Has been designed with speed and quality in mind. Unlike some other programs, it features dithering for visual pleasure. A special AGA version is included. Version 1.10, update to version 1.0. Binary only. Author: Christoph Feck, TowerSystems Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Um ex-amigo � pior que um inimigo. [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 05/02/2000, 19:38 Assunto: Procuro utilitario. Procuro utilitario para corregir o tamanho de certas imagems JPEG que tiro da inet.E' que estas imagems acabem por ter uma resolu��o de 4000x5000 ou coisa parecida e so' tem na verdade 500x600.O PPaint parece reconhe�er o tamanho certo mas acaba por fazer uma redu��o para 256 cores, o que � pouco para um JPEG.Procuro ent�o um utilitario para corregir o tamanho sem mexer na qualidade da imagem. Obrigado. -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 05/02/2000, 15:06 Assunto: A2000 na Internet Esse rapaz de Curitiba pede toda e qualquer ajuda para p�r seu A2000 para navegar na internet. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Um livro � como um jardim de bolso. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 04/02/2000, 11:13 Assunto: SnoopDOS 3.1 SnoopDOS tem vers�o nova (pequeno update) na Aminet http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/aminet/util/moni/snoopdos31.lha --- Short: System monitor, small update (3.1) Tantignone) Type: util/moni * VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: this archive contains an updated version of the * SnoopDos executable, with the version number bumped to 3.1. This was * NOT made by the original SnoopDos author, Eddy Carroll, but instead * by Luca Longone and Massimo Tantignone (with Eddy Carroll's approval). * * This update removes an Enforcer hit which can happen because of an * interaction between ToolManager and SnoopDos 3.0. * If you don't use ToolManager, you don't need this update. * * The updated source code is also on Aminet (util/moni/snoopdos31_src.lha). * * For more details, please read the "Readme_3.1" file in the archive. * * The original SnoopDos 3.0 documentation is included in this update * without any modification, but please note that all references to PGP * can't be applied to this update. If you need confirmation about the * genuine nature of this update you can ask us or the original author. * * What follows is the text from the original snoopdos30.readme file: SnoopDos patches a variety of AmigaDOS library functions that are commonly called by other programs and allows you to monitor the activities carried out by those programs. For example, you can see what files a program is looking for, what fonts it opens, and any special libraries or devices that it requires. This is often invaluable when you are trying to install a new application which has complex or inadequate documentation NEW FEATURES Many features have been added to SnoopDos since version 1.7. Here's a brief list of the most important additions: o Over 20 new system functions are supported o A full GUI provides easy access to all options o The output format can be customised using a new format editor o Output that scrolls off the window can be recalled o Messages sent by ARexx scripts can be monitored o Commodity support lets SnoopDos run in the background o Clipboard support lets you cut and paste output o Programs that use ixemul.library for i/o can be monitored o A packet debugger lets programmers monitor all DOS packets o Over 100 ARexx commands provide for unattended operation o Online AmigaGuide help covers all aspects of operation For those interested, the source code for SnoopDos is available in a separate archive called snoopdos30_src.lha. SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS Kickstart 2.04 or above is required. Some new features work better if the debugging utilities Sushi and SegTracker are installed, but these are not essential. PROGRAM SECURITY Several bogus versions of SnoopDos have appeared in the past two years. These have been disguised as legitimate updates while harbouring trojan horses or other undesirable intruders. The most recent such release, labelled 2.0, is still generally available. To help guard against this happening in the future, all new versions of SnoopDos will be signed using PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) by Philip Zimmermann. This allows anyone who is in possession of my PGP public key to verify that a particular release genuinely came from myself and not from a third party. PGP is not required to use SnoopDos; it merely allows you to verify that you have a legitimate and unmodified copy. You can download PGP from the /pub/aminet/util/crypt directory on Aminet. The filename is PGPAmiga2_3a.lha. My PGP public key is presented below for convenience. This key will work with all future releases of SnoopDos. If you have installed PGP, save this announcement to a file and then type "PGP You can then verify the integrity of SnoopDos by extracting the SnoopDos archive and typing "PGP Readme.first SnoopDos". See the PGP documentation for more information on verifying signatures. Note that my public key is never included with the main SnoopDos archive -- if it was, then anyone modifying the program could also modify the key and escape undetected. --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Fo. Data: 04/02/2000, 11:11 Assunto: Re: PC-Task Hello Nautilus On 03-fev-00, Nautilus wrote: > > O autor do PC-Task perdeu o interesse e n�o pretende dar > continuidade a seu emulador de PC para Amiga. > Uma pena, principalmente em tempos de PPC... > http://home.mira.net/~bytey/PC-Task.html Estranha essa p�gina. A julgar por ela, a �ltima vers�o produzida foi a 4.2. Por�m eu, que comprei a 4.1, fiz upgrades para 4.2, 4.3 e 4.4 (a �ltima de que tive conhecimento). Portanto, pode estar igualmente "out of date" a informa��o de que o autor perdeu o interesse (embora muito provavelmente tenha mesmo, j� que a 4.4 tem 2 anos). Regards -- Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Filho Rio de Janeiro, Brasil UIN: 31871550 Member of ATO-BR I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 03/02/2000, 20:37 Assunto: Burnit Para os queimadores de CD, vers�o nova do BurnIt: http://www.titancomputer.de/ami/burnit/index.html --- Burnit v2.65 released! New features: BurnIt is the first and only Amiga CD-Recording package which supports DAO 2448 Mode, well kown as CD+G copy mode. This mode enables 100% copies of any CD you like. There are no longer any restriction you can create a backup of every CD. Burnit easy read and writes digital ID`s, the new writing routines are able to copy all 8 subchannels and P-W!! But pay attention that only a very limited number of CD-Recorders support this mode e.g. Mitsumi 4802 or Plextor 820 (you need a special CD-Rom drive for reading 2448byte datas, see BurnIT guide for further details)! - Also you can create your Audio CD with your own special CD-Text informations. - Open session mode for creating Audio CD part by part (TAO). - New or reworked drivers for Mitsumi4802, Yamaha6416, Yamaha8416, Plextor8220, Ricoh7040 and many more. - CD-cover printout with CD-Text support (Pagestream3 or greater required). - AmigaOS 3.5 support upto 100 characters per file name possible. - New and advanced read/write settings for individual handling e.g. Gap-Creation, special Error-Recover routines and many more. - CD-Text support read and write (your CD-recorder must support this feature). - Full access to large internet AudioCD database for archiving and managing your Audio CD`s. Updates from BurnIt Version 2.5 or 2.6 are free by Email shipment, Snailmail shipping takes DM 15.-, updates from v2.x cost DM 50.- plus shipping. --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 03/02/2000, 15:17 Assunto: PC-Task O autor do PC-Task perdeu o interesse e n�o pretende dar continuidade a seu emulador de PC para Amiga. Uma pena, principalmente em tempos de PPC... http://home.mira.net/~bytey/PC-Task.html -- Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Os desejos do homem v�o a p�; os da mulher voam. [topo] De: raphael vilamiu Data: 03/02/2000, 12:58 Assunto: Como faco para sair da lista Amiga? Olah! Por favor, vc sabe como faco para sair da lista? []'s, raphael [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 03/02/2000, 04:48 Assunto: Phoenix X StarFighter Pode ser concid�ncia, mas o jogo Phoenix para PC, � id�ntico ao StarFighter de Amiga. Ambos s�o de combate espacial 3D, mas a ambienta��o e a jogabilidade s�o id�nticos. At� o design das naves � estranhamente parecido. Confiram em: http://phoenix.team17.com/en/index.html http://www.space.net.au/~geosync/tainment/scrnst3.htm Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 03/02/2000, 01:29 Assunto: Na Europa Duas empresas na Europa com bons produtos para nossos Amiga: http://www.ateo-concepts.com/ http://www.dbline.it/index.htm Vale dar um olhada nas novidades e pre�os. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 02/02/2000, 11:44 Assunto: Heretic Fortress Heretic Fortress est� perto de ser finalizado. Pelos screenshots no site da Hyperion, parece que est� j�ia. http://www.hyperion-software.de/news_000130.html Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 31/01/2000, 10:43 Assunto: Re: troca de email alexandre a. s. (uol) wrote: > Como eu faco pra mudar o email cadastrado na lista? > Obrigado! Com o email atual, envie uma mensagem com o subject UNSUBSCRIBE e com o email novo envie uma mensagem com o subject SUBSCRIBE Pronto. :) Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 31/01/2000, 07:48 Assunto: OS3.5 FAQ **** ** ** ** ***** **** ** ** *** *** ** ** ** ****** ******* ** ** *** ****** ** ** ** * ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** * **** ** ** ** ** ***** ** **** * **** ***** ****** ****** ****** **** **** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **** *** ***** ***** ****** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *** **** **** **** ** ***** ** ** ** ***** ** v1.0 - 29-Jan-2000 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- AmigaOS 3.5 FAQ based on hints, tips and discussions on the mailinglist at Onelist This FAQ is not meant to replace the "official" version at www.amiga.com, it is an addition to provide answers to questions that appeared on the mailinglist irritatingly often :) or are worth being mentioned in an FAQ. If you have additions or corrections to the FAQ, please write to --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abbreviations that may have been used: S-S = Startup-Sequence (batchfile in S:) U-S = User-Startup (batchfile in S:) W-S = WBStartup (drawer on SYS:) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Frequently Asked Questions --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: I have a GFX board. When I open a window with a lot of icons, a large amount of chipmem is used. Why is that, and how can I avoid it? A: By default (and for compatibility reasons), OS 3.5 uses chipmem for the new icon system. It is possible to use fastmem, the option is built into the OS - but in order to flick the switch, you need a 3rd party tool, e.g. WBC or WBCtrl (in the "Contributions" drawer of the CD - more recent version however on Aminet). The most common tool is WBCtrl by Stefan Rupprecht, GFX board owners just have to add "WBCtrl IMT=FAST" somewhere in their U-S, et voila. [these two tools are NO HACKS, no patching is done. "WB2Fast" however is the one program that hacks into the OS instead of using the legal built-in methods] NOTE: WB will still use a small portion of chipmem whenever you open a window, copy files etc. etc. - why? We don't know either. This can only be avoided by using WB2Fast. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: I don't have a GFX board - can I render the icons in fastram anyway? A: Yes, if you have an AGA Amiga, install "FBlit" and you can use WBCtrl, it is aware of the FBlit patch as of v1.3 (from Aminet, not from the CD!), and your icons will use fastram then. John Wasilewski originally compiled a summary of what to do and were for the list, so credit him. Here's the "how to" in short: Add to your S-S after the "copy ENVARC: etc." line: FBlit WBCtrl IMT=ICONFAST And then add "SIMPLEGELS" to the LoadWB command, so that the last two lines look like this: LoadWB SIMPLEGELS EndCLI --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: What does "LoadWB SIMPLEGELS" do? A: It reverts the system to the old OS 3.1 style of selecting and dragging icons, solid and positioning one at a time. The new OS 3.5 way is greyed or dotty icons and positioning all at once. On my A1200T, SIMPLEGELS prevents the 300K Chip RAM loss when using FBlit and WBCtrl on AGA. (Michael Rye) [another user reported his system (using a BVisionPPC with CGX4) was very unstable until he used the "SIMPLEGELS" option, if you are experiencing problems you might give it a try, even if you're using a GFX board] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: DOpus5 does not display the new 3.5 icons, why? A: The icon format of WB 3.5 is different to previous icon formats, and it is not the NewIcons format either. You need to download the update patch for DOpus from the website of GP Software. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: What are the programs in the "Converter-Scripts" directory for? A: These tools were not intended to be on the CD; Olaf Barthel provided the mailinglist with the following answer: ClockIcon: Tests a new AppIcon feature: in V44 workbench.library allows the owner of an AppIcon to render the icon image itself. This allows for a clock display to be updated in an AppIcon image (NB: check out the new tool "AnimatedIcon" from BoingBag1) CondenseIcons: This reads an icon, drops the planar icon image and any associated NewIcons tool types and writes the icon back to disk. This will result in space savings. Convert8ColorIcons: This reads an 8 colour image, attaches a default 8 colour palette to it and writes it back to disk. ConvertMagicWBIcons: This reads a MagicWB icon and writes it back to disk in the new V44 icon.library format (including the matching palette). ConvertNewIcons: This reads a NewIcons format icon and writes it back to disk in the new V44 icon.library format. GlowIconImage: This reads image files, applies the glow effect and writes the result to disk as a V44 format icon. ImageToIcon: This reads an image file and writes it to disk as a V44 format icon. LayoutIcon: This tests the new V44 icon.library LayoutIconA() code. StripIcons: This reads an icon, removes the NewIcons tool types or the V44 palette information and writes it back to disk. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: Is there a way to make "DefIcons" work with OS 3.5? A: You can use "DefIcons44" (from Aminet), its the replacement for OS 3.5, even comes with a prefs editor, and is yet another useful tool by Stefan Rupprecht - Stefan, we all really owe you a big one. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: My AWeb toolbar buttons are trashed, can I fix them? A1: This is mentioned in the original FAQ as well, but you can fix this very easily, and we on the mailinglist were the first to discover it: load the toolbar image into a GFX converter and save it as GIF. A2: Remove the "transparent" tooltype from the animation's .info file, a user reported this helps as well. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: What do the (new) C: commands "CAPrefs", "Group" and "Owner" do? They aren't covered in the manual. A1: CAPrefs is replaced by a dummy file, see next FAQ entry. A2: Group and Owner lets you alter the owner/group flags in filesystems that supports this. They used to be part of AS225 and Envoy. Note that OS3.5 C:List now also supports users/groups options. (Kolbj�rn Barmen) A3: There are some other news in with shell commands: List now finally has a sort option: List sort N = sort name List sort S = sort size List sort D = sort date (Martin Steigerwald) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: What happened to "CAPrefs" and the "ClassAct" prefs editor? A: They are replaced with dummy files by the 3.5 installer and are needed no longer. OS 3.5's "ReAction" is the successor of ClassAct, and the prefs are initialized via the normal "IPrefs" command that is in your S-S anyway. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: Ever since I'm using DefIcons44/TweakWB, my ENV: has grown really big due to the lot of def_xxx.info files - can't I reduce the memory usage somehow? A1: Remove default icons you really don't need ("def_tar" etc. might be a good candidate) A2: Optimize the icons using Stefan Rupprechts "CondenseIcons" (from Aminet), it can remove the old planar image from the icon, convert any NewIcons "tooltype image" :) into an OS 3.5 image, and save an optimized result. That can reduce the size of a lot of icons by 50%. Once ran, CondenseIcons can recurse into directories so you can convert A LOT of icons in one go (highly recommended for your HD's as well unless you intend to switch back to OS3.1 :-) A3: Install HappyENV (Aminet), it copies files from ENVARC: to ENV: only when they are actually requested by an application, speeding up booting and saving some RAM as well, as it is optimized for very small files. A4: Occasionally browse thru ENVARC: - often there's a lot of old config files and crap still rotting there, from programs you've deleted almost ages ago. :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: Why do other FAQ's still mention that RAWBInfo doesn't work with 3.5 correctly? A: Because they're poorly maintained. The latest RAWBInfo does indeed work with OS 3.5 and supports all of its features, plus a lot more that you may know from the older "SwazInfo". --------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.realdreams.cz/AMIGA/local/30_1os35faq.html Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: alexandre a. s. (uol) Data: 31/01/2000, 07:47 Assunto: email Oi, Como eu faco pra mudar o email cadastrado na lista? Obrigado! [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 30/01/2000, 03:36 Assunto: SIN O jogo Sin, que usa o engine do Quake2, ser� lan�ado pela Hyperion Software para o Amiga. Iei! :) http://www.ritual.com/sin/index.html http://www.hyperion-software.de/ Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 30/01/2000, 03:36 Assunto: Palestra na ExpoSALT Foi bem legal a ExpoSALT desse ano. Confiram em: http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834/amiga.html Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 30/01/2000, 03:35 Assunto: Phantasmagoria Antes tarde do que nunca. Phantasmagoria chega ao Amiga. :) http://www.realdreams.cz/AMIGA/local/27_1phantasmagoria.html -- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 30/01/2000, 03:35 Assunto: ProStationAudio Millennium ProStationAudio Millennium ganha nova vers�o. http://www.audiolabs.it/ -- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 26/01/2000, 23:22 Assunto: Emucamp Emucamp, com jogos licenciados para download no site. Nada de c�pias ilegais. :) http://www.emucamp.com/amiga/ -- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Mar Data: 23/01/2000, 16:36 Assunto: Re: CD num A1200 Yesssss!!! Fica faltando s� digitalizador...seria a minha m�quina! :o) Ahhhh sonhar � baum!! Mar -----Mensagem original----- Data: Domingo, 23 de Janeiro de 2000 00:23 Assunto: Re: CD num A1200 >Mar wrote: > >> Sei naum... sabe que de certa forma gostei??? >> Fico compacto... he he he > > Com uma aceleradora PowerPC junto fica sensacional! ;) > A m�quina milagrosa. > > Tchau, > > Nautilus > http://nautilus.home.dhs.org > > 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) > (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) > >--- N�o derrube mostarda na minha camisa branca. > > > [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 22/01/2000, 23:24 Assunto: Re: CD num A1200 Mar wrote: > Sei naum... sabe que de certa forma gostei??? > Fico compacto... he he he Com uma aceleradora PowerPC junto fica sensacional! ;) A m�quina milagrosa. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- N�o derrube mostarda na minha camisa branca. [topo] De: Mar Data: 22/01/2000, 17:21 Assunto: Re: AmiJoe PPC >Mar wrote: > >> Boiei... explica? > > A placa s� vem com CPU PowerPC, ou seja, sem 68000. > Da� ele emular a CPU 68000 para poder rodar os softs > tradicionais de Amiga. Veja bem ele emula SOMENTE a CPU, > e n�o o Amiga inteiro, da� a performance ser muit�ssimo > veloz. > Bem, se ele ja tem um processador na placa m�e, pra qu� o 68000? Ah, mesmo emulando quando se usa com softers para Amiga ele � + veloz? []'s, Mar [topo] De: Mar Data: 22/01/2000, 04:36 Assunto: CD num A1200 Sei naum... sabe que de certa forma gostei??? Fico compacto... he he he []'s! Mar >Mike�s Amiga Page >http://members.home.net/mayhak/amiga.htm > >Essa � a mutila��o mais sinistra que j� vi num A1200: >colocar um drive de CD no bicho! 8p > [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 22/01/2000, 04:36 Assunto: Re: AmiJoe PPC Mar wrote: > Boiei... explica? A placa s� vem com CPU PowerPC, ou seja, sem 68000. Da� ele emular a CPU 68000 para poder rodar os softs tradicionais de Amiga. Veja bem ele emula SOMENTE a CPU, e n�o o Amiga inteiro, da� a performance ser muit�ssimo veloz. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Mar Data: 22/01/2000, 02:57 Assunto: Re: AmiJoe PPC Boiei... explica? []'s! Mar -----Mensagem original----- Data: Quinta-feira, 20 de Janeiro de 2000 23:13 Assunto: Re: AmiJoe PPC >"Mauro Sergio Louren�o" wrote: > >> 68k emulation ou PPC native? > > Ambos, j� que ele s� vem com PPC. > > Tchau, > > Nautilus > http://nautilus.home.dhs.org > > 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) > (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) > >--- Essa tagline � SHAREWARE! Para registr�-la me mande R$10 > > [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 21/01/2000, 18:24 Assunto: Repulse Placa de som hi-end para Amigas com slots Zorro-II http://www.aliendesign.net/repulse/ Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- N�o derrube mostarda na minha camisa branca. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 16/01/2000, 16:30 Assunto: Mais Fleecy Moss H� rumores de que Fleecy planeja desenvolver o pr�ximo AmigaOS para PPC e Intel. Bem, ele deve saber que j� estamos "cheios" de conversa. Queremos � algo concreto, desenvolvido, antes que n�o nos reste outra op��o sen�o mudarmos de plataforma. Se n�o tivesse usando um Amiga, estaria ainda usando o meu velho TK95 com um modem e impressora bem mais modernos que ele? �bvio que n�o... Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 22/01/2000, 03:07 Assunto: Cinema4D 5 Project Cinema4D 5 http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/skyscraper/data/36/ Uma tentativa de fazer um novo Cinema 4D para o Amiga. --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 22/01/2000, 03:04 Assunto: Ethereal 3D Ethereal 3D http://www.ethereal3d.com/ Interessante site de artistas 3D, com galeria de trabalhos e tutoriais sobre o Tornado3D para Amiga. -- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 22/01/2000, 03:01 Assunto: CD num A1200 Mike�s Amiga Page http://members.home.net/mayhak/amiga.htm Essa � a mutila��o mais sinistra que j� vi num A1200: colocar um drive de CD no bicho! 8p Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 22/01/2000, 02:59 Assunto: GamesTop 10 - Amiga Games Top 10 http://www.gamestop10.com/compgs/amiga/index.htm Um site sobre games com uma boa se��o dedicada ao Amiga. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 21/01/2000, 12:43 Assunto: Re: AmiJoe PPC On Thu, Jan 20, 2000, at 11:15 PM, Nautilus wrote: > > 68k emulation ou PPC native? > > Ambos, j� que ele s� vem com PPC. At� que enfim uma placa aceleradora decente! Esperamos 5 anos para isso. Assim, al�m de novos softwares para Amiga, poderemos ter emuladores de Mac II e PowerMac rodando numa velocidade compat�vel com os programas de hoje. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 20/01/2000, 22:15 Assunto: Re: AmiJoe PPC "Mauro Sergio Louren�o" wrote: > 68k emulation ou PPC native? Ambos, j� que ele s� vem com PPC. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Essa tagline � SHAREWARE! Para registr�-la me mande R$10 [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 20/01/2000, 19:16 Assunto: AmiJoe PPC On Thu, Jan 20, 2000, at 06:32 AM, Nautilus wrote: > A aceleradora AmiJoe PowerPC j� est� em pr�-venda, com modelos > para A1200, A4000, A3000 e at� A2000! :) > O modelo de 300Mhz para o A1200 est� �340 libras. 68k emulation ou PPC native? Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 20/01/2000, 19:15 Assunto: Chat com TAO-Group e Fleecy Moss Log do chat: http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local/19_1log.html Francamente, desanimador... Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Essa tagline � SHAREWARE! Para registr�-la me mande R$10 [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 20/01/2000, 05:33 Assunto: Acesso gratuito a internet Para quem quiser saber mais sobre acesso gratuito � Internet: http://br.yahoo.com/noticias/cc/Tecnologia/Acesso/ Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 20/01/2000, 05:32 Assunto: AmiJoe PPC A aceleradora AmiJoe PowerPC j� est� em pr�-venda, com modelos para A1200, A4000, A3000 e at� A2000! :) O modelo de 300Mhz para o A1200 est� �340 libras. Blittersoft http://www.blittersoft.com/cgi-bin/2/webc.cgi/~bsoft/PPC_Accelerators.html?sid=9XNHV600BMIj6Mq Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 20/01/2000, 03:33 Assunto: A600 com defeito Recebi este email pedindo ajuda, quem puder ajudar, por favor entre em contato com ele. --- Subject: AMIGA Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:46:06 -0200 Tenho um amigo que possu um AMIGA 600 que esta com problemas , me recomedaram voces. Necessitamos de assistencia tecnica ou algo parecido, voces poderiam nos ajudar. Estamos em S�o Paulo. Agrade�o a ajuda. abra�o, -- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 19/01/2000, 01:11 Assunto: Clubbed E a revista Clubbed continua saindo, firme e forte. :) http://www.williams.demon.co.uk/seal/clubbed/index.html -- Clubbed 4 Release Date: 17th January 2000 First Birthday Issue! Issue Status: Complete We've just managed to sneak the first news of Amino's buyout of Amiga into this issue which is a bit of a scoop! We also have a massive interview with Fleecy Moss of Amino, taken before the buyout was announced but containing some interesting insights. We concentrate on graphics for most of this issues with the reviews of Photogenics and ImageFX linking with the Layers tutorial which covers both packages. We hope beginners and more experienced users will find our features on CDROMs and DOSDrivers useful too. Anyway on with the final contents... Contents News News Flash - Amino Buys Amiga - We have Bill McEwans first executive update and SEAL member's initial reaction to the news. Coverage of happenings in the Amiga world and new releases. Games Update - The latest games releases and what's comming up in 2000. Features Amiga: the future? - A summary of the changes at Amiga since issue 3 and a look at some of the players in the post-Gateway market. Interview with Fleecy Moss CDROM Explained - How to choose and install a CDROM drive on your Amiga. Plus a roundup of the best CD-related utilities. Reviews Olympus C1000L Digital camera CamControl BMon Monitor Switcher Photogenics 4.1 ImageFX 4 IBrowse 2.1 EXTower Mk IV T-Zer0 Wasted Dreams The Wanderer - Jogeir Liljedahl's first CD. VisionFX - PPC Hooks for ImageFX Support Back to Basics - DosDrivers Installing a CD-ROM tutorial Layers - What they are and how to use them in Photogenics 4.1 and ImageFX. Plus much more! Availability Available from the release date above for immediate delivery. --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 19/01/2000, 01:10 Assunto: Re: Exposalt Andre Luiz Ribeiro Simoes wrote: > Esta Exposalt, tem pagina? > Se nao tem qual o local? http://www.wb.com.br/exposalt/ > Vai ter uma caravana de Sao Paulo? Isso eu n�o sei, mas deve ter alguma sim. > PS: (essa da caravana foi bem Silvio Santos) Hahai! Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Andre Luiz Ribeiro Simoes Data: 18/01/2000, 21:22 Assunto: RES: AmigaPPC no Rio Esta Exposalt, tem pagina? Se nao tem qual o local? ou Vai ter uma caravana de Sao Paulo? PS: (essa da caravana foi bem Silvio Santos) > ----- Mensagem original ----- > Enviada em: Segunda-feira, 17 de Janeiro de 2000 23:29 > Para: Lista AMIGA > Assunto: AmigaPPC no Rio > > > Se voc� tem ou conhece quem tenha um Amiga com PowerPC ou 060 no Rio, > entre em contato comigo, pois gostaria de poder mostrar um Amiga > mais veloz que o meu (030/50) na Exposalt. > > Tchau, > > Nautilus > http://nautilus.home.dhs.org > > 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) > (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) > > --- RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory > [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 18/01/2000, 21:21 Assunto: Re: AmigaPPC no Rio "Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Fo." wrote: > defeito) com SCSI Kit IV, 32 MB RAM, HD de 4,3 GB, Power Flyer, Catweasel, > Kylwalda, Jaz SCSI, CD-ROM 32x e CD-RW 2x/2x/6x IDE. Ah! Que horror essa configura��o! 8) Vou entrar em contato com voc�. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Os 4 Fant�sticos: AMIGA - MSX - PC - Macintosh [topo] De: Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Fo. Data: 18/01/2000, 16:46 Assunto: Re: AmigaPPC no Rio Hello Nautilus On 18-jan-00, Nautilus wrote: > > Se voc� tem ou conhece quem tenha um Amiga com PowerPC ou 060 no Rio, > entre em contato comigo, pois gostaria de poder mostrar um Amiga > mais veloz que o meu (030/50) na Exposalt. > defeito) com SCSI Kit IV, 32 MB RAM, HD de 4,3 GB, Power Flyer, Catweasel, Kylwalda, Jaz SCSI, CD-ROM 32x e CD-RW 2x/2x/6x IDE. Defeito: fica tudo em um enorme e pesado (para os padr�es do A1200) gabinete desktop de PC. Um abra�o, -- Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Filho Rio de Janeiro, Brasil UIN: 31871550 Member of ATO-BR Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 18/01/2000, 01:51 Assunto: Amiga na It�lia �timas entrevistas com autores italianos de software para Amiga: http://www.obiwan.it/amiga/QuiItalia.htm Simone Tellini programmatore di STFax. Team ArcadiA programmatori di Bubbles Heroes. Darkage Software programmatori di Tales from Heaven. Paolo Cattani programmatore conosciuto per il suo Virtual --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 17/01/2000, 23:28 Assunto: AmigaPPC no Rio Se voc� tem ou conhece quem tenha um Amiga com PowerPC ou 060 no Rio, entre em contato comigo, pois gostaria de poder mostrar um Amiga mais veloz que o meu (030/50) na Exposalt. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory [topo] De: Sandro Zanello Data: 17/01/2000, 12:29 Assunto: revistas ATEN��O! POSSUO V�RIAS REVISTAS IMPORTADAS "ONE AMIGA" "AMIGA FORMAT" & "AMIGA ACTION" ANTIGAS. QUEM QUISER MAIS INFORMA�OES A RESPEITO EH SO RESPONDER ESSA MSG. FA�O QUALQUER NEGOCIO: TROCA E VENDA POR PRECOS DE BANANA! ATT SANDRO ZANELLO - BRASILIA/DF [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 16/01/2000, 02:58 Assunto: Fleecy Moss e o AQUA Fleecy Moss exclarece algumas d�vidas sobre o futuro do Amiga: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TA] setting some things straight Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:19:45 -0500 In my trawling around the community hangouts, I have come across several misconceptions, rumours, and a lot of confusion. Whilst I can't hope to answer everything, here are some things I want to set straight. 0. Amiga will build a digital content universe. Digital content means anything composed of 0 and1 - applications, video, audio, games, emails, whatever. We will focus on 2 markets, the pathfinder market, for digital adventurers, power users, gamers, content creators, DTPers, artists, video ppl and those who refuse to define a computer as a digital appliance. Our second market will cocentrate on the Domestic Digital Habitat (DDH). 1. If you are a personal computer person, there will be a personal computer second wave Amiga. 2. We will support classic development in so much as we want to help users and developers transition to a new machine. That will be the total extent of our support for the classic machine. If this involves further AmigaOS releases, then so be it. 3. We are targetting x86 and PPC for the first consumer release of Pathfinder products (if you are a personal computer person, this means you). 4. We will do everything in our power (that doesnt bankrupt us or interfere with our primary goals) to ensure classic Amiga software runs on the new machine in some form or another.. The new Amiga product family (formerly called AQUA) will run natively and hosted. This is to create a large market fast for Amiga developers to profit from. For the first pathfinder release it will run hosted to see this market grow fast. We see one of our core duties as serving the developers. 6. We are talking to the Phoenix Consortium about common interests. 7. We have been contacted by QNX but currently have no plans to work with them. 8. We will develop Amiga products for another market, the Domestic Digital Habitat (DDH) market. This markets will be kept separate but products will work together if the installer so desires it. 9. There will be a new website and it will be public shortly. It has been tested on all browsers, Amiga and non Amiga, and given the compatibility problems between the implementations of open standards, our best effort has been made. The site will grow quickly and more information will be added. We want it to become a village where all Amigans can come to voice their opinions, chat, and travel off to different parts of the Amiga universe. a. A developer support manager has been selected and they are working on implementing the developer support program. This will be in place before the developer boxes are released. b. The developer boxes are specced out, we have contacted several whitebox manufacturers and we are building the distribution. c. Amiga will not provide dates until we have a product. We will share timelines, but will not attach dates to them. Enough damage has already been done. d. We have had acceptances from 75% of our development team and their names and roles will be announced once we get back from training (before the end of the month). This mail can be redistributed without modification within the community. As further questions and issues come up, we will attempt to answer them. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 16/01/2000, 02:55 Assunto: Fleecy Moss esclarece -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TA] setting some things straight Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:19:45 -0500 In my trawling around the community hangouts, I have come across several misconceptions, rumours, and a lot of confusion. Whilst I can't hope to answer everything, here are some things I want to set straight. 0. Amiga will build a digital content universe. Digital content means anything composed of 0 and1 - applications, video, audio, games, emails, whatever. We will focus on 2 markets, the pathfinder market, for digital adventurers, power users, gamers, content creators, DTPers, artists, video ppl and those who refuse to define a computer as a digital appliance. Our second market will cocentrate on the Domestic Digital Habitat (DDH). 1. If you are a personal computer person, there will be a personal computer second wave Amiga. 2. We will support classic development in so much as we want to help users and developers transition to a new machine. That will be the total extent of our support for the classic machine. If this involves further AmigaOS releases, then so be it. 3. We are targetting x86 and PPC for the first consumer release of Pathfinder products (if you are a personal computer person, this means you). 4. We will do everything in our power (that doesnt bankrupt us or interfere with our primary goals) to ensure classic Amiga software runs on the new machine in some form or another.. The new Amiga product family (formerly called AQUA) will run natively and hosted. This is to create a large market fast for Amiga developers to profit from. For the first pathfinder release it will run hosted to see this market grow fast. We see one of our core duties as serving the developers. 6. We are talking to the Phoenix Consortium about common interests. 7. We have been contacted by QNX but currently have no plans to work with them.8. We will develop Amiga products for another market, the Domestic Digital Habitat (DDH) market. This markets will be kept separate but products will work together if the installer so desires it. 9. There will be a new website and it will be public shortly. It has been tested on all browsers, Amiga and non Amiga, and given the compatibility problems between the implementations of open standards, our best effort has been made. The site will grow quickly and more information will be added. We want it to become a village where all Amigans can come to voice their opinions, chat, and travel off to different parts of the Amiga universe. a. A developer support manager has been selected and they are working on implementing the developer support program. This will be in place before the developer boxes are released. b. The developer boxes are specced out, we have contacted several whitebox manufacturers and we are building the distribution. c. Amiga will not provide dates until we have a product. We will share timelines, but will not attach dates to them. Enough damage has already been done. d. We have had acceptances from 75% of our development team and their names and roles will be announced once we get back from training (before the end of the month). This mail can be redistributed without modification within the community. As further questions and issues come up, we will attempt to answer them. http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local/14_1aplan.html -- Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Tudo que eu preciso � uma prancha e de ondas para surfar... [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 15/01/2000, 16:40 Assunto: Re: VLRec "Mauro Sergio Louren�o" wrote: > O chato � que ainda n�o tem drive para o Vidi porque o autor n�o o possui. Mas com o tempo algu�m far� um driver. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Tudo que eu preciso � uma prancha e de ondas para surfar... [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 15/01/2000, 09:39 Assunto: VLRec On Fri, Jan 14, 2000, at 04:38 AM, Nautilus wrote: > Pra quem usa o Amiga para v�deo, vale a pena dar uma olhada: > http://www.innovative-web.de/vlrec/index_e.html O chato � que ainda n�o tem drive para o Vidi porque o autor n�o o possui. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 14/01/2000, 03:38 Assunto: Re: Comprando Amiga Sandro Zanello wrote: > Aonde posso comprar um AMIGA? O mais � f�cil � em sites de leil�o no Brasil, como o do Yahoo, Valeu, etc. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 14/01/2000, 03:38 Assunto: VLRec Pra quem usa o Amiga para v�deo, vale a pena dar uma olhada: http://www.innovative-web.de/vlrec/index_e.html Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 14/01/2000, 03:37 Assunto: Re: ExpoSALT "Mauro Sergio Louren�o" wrote: > Fica a apenas 3,5 Km aqui de casa! Se n�o viajar estarei l�. Oba! Mais um! :) Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- N�o expresse em ingl�s o que pode ser dito em portugu�s. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 14/01/2000, 01:10 Assunto: Re: ExpoSALT V�clav Filho wrote: > J� me cadastrei na sua palestra e estarei l�! Como eu tou meio por fora > do cen�rio AMIGA atual, acho que vai ser uma boa. A gente podia fazer > dessa palestra uma esp�cie de mini-encontro dos usu�rios de AMIGA do > Rio. Seria legal se mais pessoas se cadastrassem e comparecessem, como > eu. :-) Legal, quanto mais gente mais divertido fica. ;) Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- N�o expresse em ingl�s o que pode ser dito em portugu�s. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 14/01/2000, 01:09 Assunto: ExpoSALT On Wed, Jan 12, 2000, at 12:18 AM, Nautilus wrote: > A II ExpoSALT acontece nos dias 29 e 30 de janeiro na Escola de > Engenharia da Universidade Federal Fluminense (UFF), � rua Passos da > P�tria, 156, em S�o Domingos, Niter�i. Fica a apenas 3,5 Km aqui de casa! Se n�o viajar estarei l�. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 14/01/2000, 01:09 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? In a message of 11-Jan-00, Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Fo. wrote to me: >> Mas o OS3.5 n�o tem esta capacidade resolvida? Ou seja n�o posso usar o >> NSDPatch e com o HDtools do OS3.5? >U�... Veja a sua pergunta inicial: sem usar o OS 3.5! OK,queria so' pedir "emprestado" o HDTools do OS3.5...Mas pode haver outro programa similar na Aminet.Mas por desgra�a a minha ainda n�o recebi o meu novo HD 8^( >Al�m do mais, o OS 3.5 resolve o problema em parte. O OS fornece um conjunto >b�sico de fun��es de disco, agora com posssibilidade de acesso a mais de >4GB, mas cabe ao aplicativo fornecer os par�metros necess�rios para usar Sim,estou a preceber! ;^) >Eu, por exemplo, continuo sendo obrigado a usar o TurboPrint (gra�as a Deus >ele � compat�vel com o OS 3.5) apenas por causa do "workaround" inventado >pela IrseeSoft de imprimir em modo PostScript (portanto, em 24 bits) >acionando uma vers�o especial do interpretador GhostScript, que usa Por falar em GhostScript,parece que este ultimo da' para imprimir documentos PDF? E' que gostava de passar estes documentos para papel. -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: V�clav Filho Data: 13/01/2000, 18:48 Assunto: ExpoSALT Ih! Demorou! J� me cadastrei na sua palestra e estarei l�! Como eu tou meio por fora do cen�rio AMIGA atual, acho que vai ser uma boa. A gente podia fazer dessa palestra uma esp�cie de mini-encontro dos usu�rios de AMIGA do Rio. Seria legal se mais pessoas se cadastrassem e comparecessem, como eu. :-) Abra�os, V�clav Filho (sumi mas naum morri ainda!) ;-) Nautilus wrote: > > Estarei na ExpoSALT desse ano, dessa vez falando sobre o Amiga. :) > http://www.wb.com.br/exposalt/ [topo] De: Sandro Zanello Data: 13/01/2000, 18:47 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? Aonde posso comprar um AMIGA? Attt Sandro ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:25 AM Subject: RE: Re: + de 4GB? In a message of 10-Jan-00, Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote to me: >> Pois as imagems BMP s�o uma desgra�a em termos de tamanho! O aumento > Deve estar salvando na vers�o OS2. Salvo na vers�o Win com a op��o > "compression" habilitada. Fica bem menor. Mas falando nas imagems BMP aquilo n�o tem qualquer tipo de compacta��o ,tem o mesmo tamanho umas e outras... -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 13/01/2000, 11:03 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? On Tue, Jan 11, 2000, at 12:00 AM, Daniel Mealha Cabrita wrote: > O Prograb aceita Pal, NTSC ou SECAM :) > para capturar som, vc so precisa de um sampler, o prog q acompanha tem esta > opcao. PAL eu sei. Mas e o PAL-M? Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 13/01/2000, 11:02 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? On Tue, Jan 11, 2000, at 12:25 AM, Carlos Serra wrote: > Mas falando nas imagems BMP aquilo n�o tem qualquer tipo de compacta��o > ,tem o mesmo tamanho umas e outras... Fa�a um teste com o PPaint que salva nas duas vers�es BMP. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 12/01/2000, 17:14 Assunto: Re: StudioII "Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Fo." wrote: > ele � compat�vel com o OS 3.5) apenas por causa do "workaround" inventado > pela IrseeSoft de imprimir em modo PostScript (portanto, em 24 bits) Na verdade 32bits. ;) > acionando uma vers�o especial do interpretador GhostScript, que usa > diretamente o printer.device do TurboPrint. A diferen�a do resultado > impresso no PageStream (imprimir direto versus enviar .PS via GhostScript) > � realmente brutal. Eu ainda uso os drivers do StudioII. Mucho b�o tamb�m, mas acho que hoje em dia vai cair em deususo por causa do Turbo Print ter sido agregado ao OS. > � por isso que "Tio Bill" est� rico e n�s n�o... :-( Sim, ele e seus parceiros do mal. Arquivos grandes significa a necessidade de mais RAM, mais HD, cpu mais veloz, etc, etc. Safados... Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Pense nisso: quantas livrarias existem no seu bairro? [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 11/01/2000, 23:18 Assunto: ExpoSALT Estarei na ExpoSALT desse ano, dessa vez falando sobre o Amiga. :) http://www.wb.com.br/exposalt/ -- A II ExpoSALT acontece nos dias 29 e 30 de janeiro na Escola de Engenharia da Universidade Federal Fluminense (UFF), � rua Passos da P�tria, 156, em S�o Domingos, Niter�i. As inscri��es para as palestras e minicursos podem ser feitas via Web local. J� para, na Install Fest, garantir a instala��o de uma distribui��o Linux no seu PC, s� vale mesmo o cadastro on-line, em www.wb.com.br/expo salt/installfest.html#head. A exposi��o, como n�o podia deixar de ser, n�o lida somente com Unix e Linux, mas tamb�m com temas ligados a sistemas como Free BSD, OpenBSD, Amiga, MAC, OS/2, MSX e BeOS. Representantes de diversos grupos de usu�rios estar�o presentes, como o de usu�rios de Linux da Bahia e de Pelotas, os de usu�rios de OS/2 e BeOS, e tamb�m desenvolvedores brasileiros de distribui��es para Linux, como o Debian, ou de programas para ambientes espec�ficos como o Gnome (no caso, do Gimp, o editor de imagens de que falamos mais abaixo). Segundo os organizadores, a id�ia � levar ao p�blico, de modo geral, todos os sistemas que possam atualmente ser considerados alternativos. Al�m das palestras e do Install Fest, que ocupar� todo o segundo andar do pr�dio da Escola de Engenharia, ocorrer� tamb�m durante o evento uma feira, no primeiro e terceiro andares, com stands de empresas e projetos acad�micos. Para entrar em contato com a organiza��o, basta mandar mensagens para --- Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Lois Lane explodiria em mil peda�os quando o Super-Homem gozasse. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 11/01/2000, 23:18 Assunto: Tolkien computer games Jogos baseados nas obras de Tolkien, para todos os sistemas. Esse site � sensacional, complet�ssimo. Tolkien computer games http://www.lysator.liu.se/tolkien-games/ Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Fo. Data: 11/01/2000, 18:15 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? Hello Carlos On 09-jan-00, Carlos Serra wrote: > >>> Como posso usar HD's superiores aos 4GB no meu Amiga sem usar o OS3.5? >[...] > Mas o OS3.5 n�o tem esta capacidade resolvida? Ou seja n�o posso usar o > NSDPatch e com o HDtools do OS3.5? U�... Veja a sua pergunta inicial: sem usar o OS 3.5! Al�m do mais, o OS 3.5 resolve o problema em parte. O OS fornece um conjunto b�sico de fun��es de disco, agora com posssibilidade de acesso a mais de 4GB, mas cabe ao aplicativo fornecer os par�metros necess�rios para usar essas fun��es. Se o aplicativo for antigo, simplesmente n�o se beneficiar� dessa diferen�a. � como usar o DPaint III no A1200: apesar de ter o chipset AGA � sua disposi��o, o DPaint III n�o sabe nada sobre telas de 256 cores ou HAM-8. Outro problema � o de impress�o. Todos os aplicativos dispon�veis atualmente para o Amiga t�m suas rotinas de impress�o simplificadas (para reduzir o tamanho e uso da mem�ria) e n�o imprimem diretamente com mais de 4096 cores (o m�ximo do OS anterior), mesmo que o OS 3.5 tenha, agora, suporte a "true color". Isso acontece at� mesmo com programas que lidam com imgens em 24 bits (PPaint, ImageFX, ADPro). � a rotina *de impress�o* desses programas que � simplificada. Eu, por exemplo, continuo sendo obrigado a usar o TurboPrint (gra�as a Deus ele � compat�vel com o OS 3.5) apenas por causa do "workaround" inventado pela IrseeSoft de imprimir em modo PostScript (portanto, em 24 bits) acionando uma vers�o especial do interpretador GhostScript, que usa diretamente o printer.device do TurboPrint. A diferen�a do resultado impresso no PageStream (imprimir direto versus enviar .PS via GhostScript) � realmente brutal. Esse tipo de problema s� ser� resolvido quando obtivermos vers�es novas dos aplicativos/utilit�rios ou patches para vers�es antigas. Dada a situa��o do Amiga e do total desinteresse das empresas em investir mais nesse mercado, acho pouco prov�vel que tenhamos solu��es a curto prazo. > Pois as imagems BMP s�o uma desgra�a em termos de tamanho! O aumento > de tamanho dos programas e' duvido a uma optimiza��o cada vez mais > deficiente do codigo gerado e como dizes "instalhar "sucatada" que n�o > serve para nada..." > � por isso que "Tio Bill" est� rico e n�s n�o... :-( Um abra�o, -- Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Filho Rio de Janeiro, Brasil UIN: 31871550 Member of ATO-BR Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. Clarke [topo] De: Daniel Mealha Cabrita Data: 11/01/2000, 11:00 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? Hello MissLady On 09-Jan-00, you wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2000, at 07:25 PM, Nautilus wrote: > >> Hehehe. Est� usando que placa para v�deo digital? > > Uso o velho, mas "simples" Vidi-Amiga 24RT e ainda a vers�o da Rombo! O > ProGrab � superior: mais barato, mais r�pido (via PCMCIA), grava direto > no > HD e o seu soft, com a adi��o de um acess�rio, permite a captura de �udio > via paralela. S� n�o sei se aceita o nosso formato "PAL 60Hz" (PAL-M). J� > o > Vidi-Amiga s� rejeita o SECAM. O Prograb aceita Pal, NTSC ou SECAM :) para capturar som, vc so precisa de um sampler, o prog q acompanha tem esta opcao. > > Tenho tb um velh�ssimo clone do Digiview Gold. Fiz diversas capturas em > P&B > usando filtros RGB: fazia 1 captura da mesma imagem com cada um dos 3 > filtros formando 3 imagens, que superpostas, formava uma em RGB, e > salvava em > HAM. Lendo no Photoshop e salvando em JPEG ningu�m diz que foi capturada > dessa forma! > > Bye, > > Mauro Louren�o > ICQ: 15860049 > http://msl.cjb.net > http://msl.tech.nu > > Regards -- [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 10/01/2000, 23:25 Assunto: Re: videocaptura On Mon, Jan 10, 2000, at 12:52 AM, Nautilus wrote: > > Lendo no Photoshop e salvando em JPEG ningu�m diz que foi capturada > > dessa forma! > > Haha! Gostei da criatividade! :)) Veja um exemplo aqui: misslady.cjb.net/esther.jpg. A foto original em HAM � uns 30% inferior. Experimente: fa�a um degrad� de 256 cores num PPaint, carregue no Photoshop, mude o modo para RGB, e salve em JPEG, TIFF ou qualquer formato 24bits. O degrad� � aumentado! Simplesmente o Photoshop altera a quantidade de cores diferentes (sem repeti��o)! � excelente para quem tem fotos em 256 cores ou HAM e quer dar uma melhorada sem "inventar". N�o � por acaso que h� anos � o programa de Mac preferido para "maquiar" fotos. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 10/01/2000, 23:25 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? In a message of 10-Jan-00, Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote to me: >> Pois as imagems BMP s�o uma desgra�a em termos de tamanho! O aumento > Deve estar salvando na vers�o OS2. Salvo na vers�o Win com a op��o > "compression" habilitada. Fica bem menor. Mas falando nas imagems BMP aquilo n�o tem qualquer tipo de compacta��o ,tem o mesmo tamanho umas e outras... -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 10/01/2000, 23:25 Assunto: Re: Imagens "Mauro Sergio Louren�o" wrote: > Deve estar salvando na vers�o OS2. Salvo na vers�o Win com a op��o > "compression" habilitada. Fica bem menor. O BMP do Windows usa compress�o RLE, que conforme o caso deixa o arquivo maior do que sem compactar. 8p N�o d� pra salvar como JPEG, TIF com LZW, ou at� mesmo em PCX? Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Quem conseguiria romper o super-h�mem da Mulher Maravilha? [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 10/01/2000, 23:24 Assunto: Re: PowerD MissLady Modas wrote: > Algu�m j� experimentou esta linguagem baseada no E? No Amiga tenho usado o Hisoft Basic 2, e vez por outra SAS/C. Tamb�m tive interesse pela PowerD e outras varia��es do E. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Quem conseguiria romper o super-h�mem da Mulher Maravilha? [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 09/01/2000, 23:52 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? On Sun, Jan 9, 2000, at 11:07 PM, Carlos Serra wrote: > Pois as imagems BMP s�o uma desgra�a em termos de tamanho! O aumento > de tamanho dos programas e' duvido a uma optimiza��o cada vez mais > deficiente do codigo gerado e como dizes "instalhar "sucatada" que n�o > serve para nada..." Deve estar salvando na vers�o OS2. Salvo na vers�o Win com a op��o "compression" habilitada. Fica bem menor. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 09/01/2000, 23:52 Assunto: Re: videocaptura MissLady Modas wrote: > Tenho tb um velh�ssimo clone do Digiview Gold. Fiz diversas capturas em P&B > usando filtros RGB: fazia 1 captura da mesma imagem com cada um dos 3 > filtros formando 3 imagens, que superpostas, formava uma em RGB, e salvava em > HAM. Lendo no Photoshop e salvando em JPEG ningu�m diz que foi capturada > dessa forma! Haha! Gostei da criatividade! :)) Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Exige muito de ti mesmo, e espera pouco dos outros. [topo] De: MissLady Modas Data: 09/01/2000, 22:08 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? On Fri, Jan 7, 2000, at 07:25 PM, Nautilus wrote: > Hehehe. Est� usando que placa para v�deo digital? Uso o velho, mas "simples" Vidi-Amiga 24RT e ainda a vers�o da Rombo! O ProGrab � superior: mais barato, mais r�pido (via PCMCIA), grava direto no HD e o seu soft, com a adi��o de um acess�rio, permite a captura de �udio via paralela. S� n�o sei se aceita o nosso formato "PAL 60Hz" (PAL-M). J� o Vidi-Amiga s� rejeita o SECAM. Tenho tb um velh�ssimo clone do Digiview Gold. Fiz diversas capturas em P&B usando filtros RGB: fazia 1 captura da mesma imagem com cada um dos 3 filtros formando 3 imagens, que superpostas, formava uma em RGB, e salvava em HAM. Lendo no Photoshop e salvando em JPEG ningu�m diz que foi capturada dessa forma! Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: MissLady Modas Data: 09/01/2000, 22:08 Assunto: PowerD Algu�m j� experimentou esta linguagem baseada no E? Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 09/01/2000, 22:07 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? In a message of 06-Jan-00, Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Fo. wrote to me: >> Como posso usar HD's superiores aos 4GB no meu Amiga sem usar o OS3.5? >Se voc� possuir uma Power Flyer, o scsi.device modificado pelo driver da >placa dividir� automaticamente seu HD em parti��es de 4GB, ficando a �ltima >com o resto da divis�o. Funciona para todos os OSs 3.x. N�o tenho SCSI...So' o IDE interno do meu A1200.So' se este "Power Flyer" tb da' mas n�o conhe�o este hardware. >Se n�o possuir, o jeito � usar o "patch" dispon�vel no FTP da Amiga, Inc. >(ftp.amiga.de). O NSDPatch (New Style Device) permite ultrapassar a >barreira dos 4GB nos OSs 3.0 e 3.1. ATEN��O, por�m, para uma importante >desvantagem: >A maioria dos programas utilit�rios, como DiskSalv, ReOrg, DiskMonTools e >afins usam n�meros de 32 bits para endere�ar FISICAMENTE os setores no >disco. Portanto, n�o podem ser usados nas parti��es que estiverem acima da >barreira dos 4GB contados a partir do primeiro setor f�sico do disco, mesmo >que a parti��o em si seja pequena e mesmo que o NSDPatch esteja sendo >usado. Mas o OS3.5 n�o tem esta capacidade resolvida? Ou seja n�o posso usar o NSDPatch e com o HDtools do OS3.5? >> N�o sei porque querem tanta capacidade! Aqui o meu 1GB so' esta' cheio a >> 65% e ja' tem 4 anos... >Nem eu. Isso � para te manter comprando, e para isso � que desenvolvem >programas cada vez maiores, com mais e mais arquivos copiados para o teu HD >durante a instala��o (geralmente cliparts e modelos idiotas que nunca ser�o >usados) e tamb�m padr�es de arquivos de imagem com diferen�a zero em termos >de qualidade, mas com uma diferen�a brutal em termos de tamanho do arquivo >no disco em rela��o aos padr�es mais "econ�micos". Vide BMP de 24 bits ou >TIFF de 32 bits versus JPEG a 90% ou HAM-8. Pois as imagems BMP s�o uma desgra�a em termos de tamanho! O aumento de tamanho dos programas e' duvido a uma optimiza��o cada vez mais deficiente do codigo gerado e como dizes "instalhar "sucatada" que n�o serve para nada..." -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 09/01/2000, 22:06 Assunto: Re: Mais Docs!!! Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote: > Algu�m aqui est� atr�s de algum manual de programa para Amiga? Neste site > existem cerca de 10000 docs divididos em 7 discos (DMS): > http://members.xoom.com/ninjaw/lsd/ E acaba de entrar no a cole��o de docs do Dave Hayne: http://www.thule.no/haynie/ Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 08/01/2000, 18:38 Assunto: Amiga e Tao On Sat, Jan 8, 2000, at 03:21 PM, Nautilus wrote: > A Amiga Inc anunciou que seu arceiro tecnol�gico � a empresa TAO, > repons�vel por solu��es de OS e rede para dispositivos dom�sticos > (aparelhos de TV, etc) e mov�is (celulares, etc). > Pelo visto a Amiga Inc quer usar o AmigaOS em algo que dar� > muito dinheiro, ou seja, no mercado de eletrodom�sticos e port�teis. > Vamos ver como isso ser� direcionado para a cria��o de um > novo Amiga... > > Tao Group > http://www.tao-group.com/ Interessante � que j� havia um contato h� cerca de 1 ano com uma empresa de nome parecido: Amino Communications. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 08/01/2000, 18:38 Assunto: Docs!!! Algu�m aqui est� atr�s de algum manual de programa para Amiga? Neste site existem cerca de 10000 docs divididos em 7 discos (DMS): http://members.xoom.com/ninjaw/lsd/ Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 08/01/2000, 18:37 Assunto: Amiga e Tao On Sat, Jan 8, 2000, at 03:21 PM, Nautilus wrote: Perd�o, esqueci o texto. > Tao Group > http://www.tao-group.com/ Interessante � que j� havia um contato h� cerca de 1 ano com uma empresa de nome parecido: Amino Communications. Cambridge, England 10 February 1999. Amino Communications, the modular technology network appliance company, has announced a technology partnership with Tao. As a result of this, Tao's world beating ElateRTM operating system is to feature strongly in many products built with Amino's ground breaking IntAct technology. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 08/01/2000, 18:37 Assunto: TAOS Parallel Course - Revista Byte The Taos operating system uses objects from the ground up to enable processors based on different architectures to work together on the same problem Dick Pountain Nowadays several computers can generate realistic ray-traced images, and some of them can even do it fast. A rendering demonstration I recently witnessed was impressive for one special reason: The PC doing the rendering was executing the same ray-tracing program in parallel on an Intel 486, four Inmos T800 transputers, and four Mips R3000s. What made this feat possible was Taos (pronounced "dowse," as in the Chinese philosophy Taoism), a radically different, object-oriented parallel operating system. Roots of Taos Most operating systems are created either by large computer companies or by university researchers, but Taos is different--it's the product of a devoted g roup of enthusiasts with an idea that was well ahead of its time. The principal architect of Taos is Chris Hinsley, formerly a professional games programmer with hit titles for the Atari ST and the Commodore Amiga to his credit. Although writing solely in assembly language, Hinsley devised his own object-oriented development style based on macros, which sparked the original idea for Taos. Fired by the launch of Inmos's transputer architecture, Hinsley wanted to create a real-time operating system that could harness the parallel-processing power he believed would be needed for future multimedia systems. When I first wrote about Taos in the International edition of the March 1991 BYTE, it seemed outrageously removed from the mainstream. Today, many of the concepts it is built on are showing up in the commercial operating-system world. Everyone wants a microkernel now, but Taos is already a nanokernel system, with its tiny 12-KB kernel running on each processor in a parallel network. Taligent promises obj ects from the ground up with dynamic binding; Taos has had them from the start. One difference is Taos doesn't really aspire to mainstream desktop status; instead, it is a fast and skinny system for embedded applications. Tao Systems is promoting it into the multimedia and games console markets. The Virtual Processor By far, the most radical aspect of Taos is its hardware independence. Taos programs are all written in the machine code of a VP (virtual processor), which is called VPcode. The Taos kernel translates VPcode into the native machine code of each real processor immediately before running it--there is little or no run-time penalty, unlike earlier interpreted systems (e.g., the UCSD p-system), which were slow. Taos's fine-grained object orientation and dynamic binding makes this translation strategy feasible: VPcode modules are always small (typically a few hundred bytes), so they can be translated on the fly as they load from disk into memory. Huge monolithic applications like Excel or WordPerfect wouldn't lend themselves to this approach. But Tao Systems' translator supremo Andy Henson stressed to me that a fast modern CPU can actually translate VPcode faster than a hard drive can transfer data. The imaginary VP is a 32-bit little-endian RISC machine with 16 registers. It supports data types from 8-bit bytes up to 64-bit double integers and 32- or 64-bit IEEE floating-point numbers. Hence, the VP is a reasonably good match to most real RISC chips like the Alpha, Mips, ARM, and PowerPC, if somewhat short of registers by today's standards. It supports around 60 simple RISC-like arithmetic, logical, and branching instructions, as well as a few special pseudoinstructions. These latter include TAO, which calls Taos kernel routines, and LIT, which marks literal data that needs to be translated (e.g., from little-endian to big-endian). The Taos assembler, VPASM, outputs VPcode that you can run directly or you can convert to native code by manually invoking the appropriate transla tor. The listing "VPcode at Work" shows a sample of VPASM source code. Currently, Tao Systems has translators for the Intel 286, 386, and 486, the Inmos T800 and T9000 transputers, the Mips R3000, and the ARM 601. The PowerPC and the DEC Alpha are next in the pipeline; it takes around six worker-months to produce a new translator. The Taos Object Model Taos is a message-passing operating system whose software model is based on objects, processes, and messages. An object is a bundle of data and code that consumes memory, while a process executes an object and consumes processor time. The Taos hardware model involves multiple processors each with a local memory, connected by a network of communications links. Every processor in this network runs a copy of the Taos kernel and the translator from VPcode to its own native code. Whenever Taos creates a new object, it allocates the object to a processor and then starts a process to execute the object. All Taos objects are constructed from variable-s ize blocks of contiguous memory called nodes. Each node contains two link fields so that the kernel can manage them in doubly linked lists. Nodes can contain data or code, and they have a type field that identifies the type of object they hold. Taos itself doesn't type-check the application of operations to data, although you can implement such type-checking at a higher level within an OOP (object-oriented programming) language. While stored on disk or in transit over a communications link, nodes exist as unbound templates, but once nodes are loaded into memory, they are converted to "process-ready" form, and it's at this time that any translation of VPcode to native code takes place. The Taos kernel on a particular processor inserts a process-ready node onto a list of other process-ready objects, from where it can be processed according to the type of object it holds. Tools, Control Objects, and Classes Taos's predefined system object types are tools, control objects, bit maps, graphical obj ects, and class objects, but programmers are free to define new types. A tool is a node containing executable code that can act on the data contained in an object, to perform calculations or send and receive messages. A control object is the Taos equivalent of a program, consisting of one or more component tools that are executed in sequence. Control objects are the smallest unit of parallel distribution and execution under Taos. They are not, however, the smallest unit of memory management, because the kernel can retrieve individual tools from disk and make them process-ready. The kernel that creates a new control object distributes its template (using a special load-balancing algorithm) onto some processor, which starts a process to execute the object. When the last component of the control object is finished, the control object closes, and its process terminates. Every component has at least two tools associated with it: one that executes the component and one that cleans up after it dies. A control object's template contains only the text names of its component tools, not their actual code. When the kernel creates a new control object, it first checks whether any of these specified components are already in memory, and if so, it just points to them--otherwise, it fetches them from disk and makes them process-ready (first translating them, if necessary). Binding under Taos is thus fully dynamic so that no module gets loaded until it is needed and only one copy is ever present in memory. The Taos processes that execute control objects are lightweight, equivalent to "threads" in operating systems like OS/2, and more than one process can share the same tool's code in multithreaded fashion. Class objects provide the highest level of organization under Taos. A class encapsulates a group of message-passing objects that can run in parallel, hiding them behind an OOP method interface. Users of classes like Window or PolygonWorld make method calls to the class object (e.g., to open a new window) and are s hielded from the complexity of the underlying parallelism that's generated by the execution of the objects hidden within the class. The Kernel and Memory Management The simplest version of the Taos kernel is just 12 KB in size and is responsible for multitasking (via a time-sliced process scheduler), memory management, and the mail and naming systems. Tao Systems is working on a Posix-compliant version of the kernel that implements virtual memory and memory protection on microprocessors that have suitable MMU (memory management unit) hardware, but the 12-KB version does not offer these features. All executable code in Taos is contained in tools, apart from the small bootstrap loader on each processor that must be in native code. Even the kernel itself is built from tools and is largely written in VPcode. Device drivers are just like any other process, running outside and in parallel with the kernel. Link drivers running outside the kernel handle all I/O messages, although the kernel handles s ome local I/O support mechanisms such as data caching. A process called the Migrator, which runs outside the kernel, is responsible for relocating tool objects in memory and for incremental garbage collection. The lifetime of a Taos tool in memory is determined by its status, according to four different degrees of volatility: 1. Virtual tools are loaded, translated, and bound only when another tool calls them. The translated code remains in memory until the tool's reference count (which the kernel keeps) falls to zero, after which the kernel can flush the code whenever it needs memory. The kernel may relocate a virtual tool at any time. 2. Nonvirtual tools get loaded and bound at the same time as the tool that references them, and they remain in memory, exempt from relocation, for at least the lifetime of their caller. 3. Semivirtual tools are loaded and bound only when called, like virtual tools, but they then remain in memory like nonvirtual tools. 4. Nonvirtual tools can be flagged as embed, which causes the translator to embed them as in-line code in their caller's code. This is a speed optimization that is extensively used in the kernel code. Message Passing Because Taos does not support shared memory, the only way for objects existing in the address spaces of different processors to interact is by exchanging messages. The lightweight asynchronous mail system works through just two kernel operations, SENDMAIL and READMAIL, and it's nonblocking so that the sender continues executing without waiting for a reply. All Taos messages are sent to mailboxes belonging to processes, which act as queues for incoming messages. When a control object is created and executed, it automatically receives a default mailbox, whose mail address is simply the ID of the child process that executes the object. The new control object can then send mail to any other object whose mailbox address it knows--every object knows the address of its own children, parents, and named resources like dis k drives and CRT displays. Messages may contain a whole list of successive destination addresses for forwarding, along with the address of their sender in case a reply is requested. Taos messages are assigned distinct types. The kernel reserves 16 types, which include arrays, streams, and executable code; error and debugging data; and screen refresh, mouse, and keyboard events. A further 16 types are free for programmers' use. The kernel on each processor handles all incoming mail for its local objects, all outgoing mail, and mail to be forwarded to another processor. The typing system enables the kernel to trap system messages (e.g., executable code) and also allows user-defined objects to prioritize the way they read their waiting mail. Objects can employ the READMAIL kernel call to read messages from their mailbox, adding a list of the desired message types as a parameter. The result of such a call might be a message of the required type, or the news that there are no such messages--if the mailbox c ontains no messages at all then READMAIL suspends the calling process until some mail arrives so that you can use mail messages to awaken sleeping objects. Taos's link drivers hide the details of the physical transport mechanism that implements the communications links from user programs (although real-time performance issues may sometimes intrude). In the rendering demonstration I mentioned earlier in this article, the transputers were connected via their serial links, while the Mips R3000 chips were connected together through FIFO (first-in/first-out) chips, and all of them talked to the 486 host CPU via the PC's VL-Bus. Execution in Parallel Taos is a fully distributed operating system that doesn't attempt to exert central control over the execution of parallel applications. Obviously, in practice, you must pick out one processor from which to boot the system, but once all the kernels are booted Taos programs tend to spread out over the network of processors in an almost organic manner, co ntrolled by a distributed load-balancing algorithm. If you examine the "control object management" subsection in the text box "Taos Kernel Calls" on page 56, you'll see the kind of services that are available for spawning remote processes. These kernel calls use the mail system to transfer executable VPcode from one processor to another. Information about the system's performance and current loading is stored in the link drivers that control each communications channel. At boot-up, each link driver benchmarks the processors to which it's attached (by timing the VPcode translator). This number is then divided by the number of processes currently running to give a measure of available power for each processor. The automatic load-balancing algorithm uses these power figures in the allocation of new processes. When a tool object arrives at a processor, the local kernel inspects all the links leading outward and asks "is there one of my nearest neighbors who's got more spare power than I have?"--if so, the object is passed on; if not, it executes here. Applications that dynamically spawn many parallel processes spread out like water running down a mountain, the flow seeking out the lowest points, or gullies, in processor-loading space. Each link driver also maintains a table of encoded information about the network topology, used by the kernel to route messages. These tables are dynamically updated at run time so that if a new processor is added to the system, news of its existence spreads outward like a wave. The nature of the routing algorithm reduces the probability of deadlock due to circular message paths, and it can usually find multiple paths between two processors (if they exist), which provides a degree of fault tolerance if a link fails. A programmer can always override the automatic load balancing and allocate objects to specified processors, by using the OPENDEVICE or OPENGLOBAL calls, while OPENREMOTE invokes a partially automatic mechanism where you explicitly send many object s to a particular processor but let Taos distribute them automatically from there. For example, you could specify that a 1000-process ray-tracing calculation should be run by sending groups of 100 objects to 10 different processors, with Taos completing the distribution. The Parallel PC Although Taos can support its own file and display systems, the current release version is PC-hosted, using the MS-DOS file system and an SVGA graphics adapter for display. I received Taos on six 1.44-MB floppy disks, although more than three of these were filled with bit maps and MPEG animations. I was able to run Taos happily on my 486DX2\66 Elonex PC as a single-processor operating system, coexisting on the same hard disk with Windows (though hardly surprising, it would not run under Windows). Taos comes with a very simple GUI whose look and feel is loosely modeled on Motif. Control objects that you store in the Taos/Control directory automatically appear on a pop-up menu from where you can execute them wit h a mouse click. To supplement this GUI, you can open a shell window and use a command-line interface, with a syntax that resembles DOS. But unlike DOS, Taos command lines represent genuine pipelines in which each successive command launches a separate process whose output is fed to the next. The most immediately striking attribute of Taos is its blazing graphics speed; you can grab a window in which an image is being ray-traced and whirl it vigorously around the screen while tracing continues unhindered. The GUI, which is packaged as a Taos class object, works with a device-independent virtual screen with only two hardware-dependent primitives to put and get bit maps to the real screen. Apart from SVGA adapters, Tao Systems currently implements the GUI for several of Inmos's graphical TRAMs (transputer modules). Processes running on remote processors can open screen windows by sending messages to the processor running the GUI, rather like a lightweight version of the X Window System. In additio n, Taos encapsulates the MS-DOS filing system within its own object model so that DOS hard drives are mapped into Taos servers; therefore, you can send messages about the objects the servers hold. For example, a control object called Trace.Ctl, which is referenced in Taos C:\Taos directory. Taos Directions At present, Taos is deficient in the sort of development tools that Unix or DOS programmers expect to find--the small Taos team has devoted most of its time over the last two years to getting the kernel and VPcode translation system robust and to building a variety of graphical tools for manipulating and displaying ray-traced images and MPEG animations, all written directly in VPASM assembly language. There's a BASIC compiler that uses a QuickBasic-like dialect but as yet no C compiler; however, there is a library called the Taos HLL Toolset, accessible from VP assembl y language or BASIC, which provides the functionality of the ANSI C library including malloc, sprintf, fscanf, and others. Work is under way on an in-house C++ implementation. The much hyped "multimedia revolution," which puts a new premium on inexpensive but high-performance graphics, may prove to be a window of opportunity for Taos. SGS-Thomson/Inmos has made a technology sharing agreement with Tao Systems to use Taos on its next-generation processors (code-named Chameleon) in the games, visualization, and multimedia markets. Tao Systems is negotiating with a large Japanese communications corporation, which is evaluating Taos as an operating system for the TV set-top boxes that will control the new domestic multimedia services. These units will have to decrypt, decompress, decode, and otherwise mangle real-time data streams for "video-on-demand," videophone communications, and other services yet to be invented. This will require large amounts of processing power but must be delivered at domest ic electrical-appliance prices. A small, hardware-independent parallel operating system begins to look very attractive; you can shop around for this week's best processor deals and issue inexpensive upgrade cards to provide more processing power. Tao Systems P.O. Box 2320 London NW11 6PW U.K. +44 81 905 5708 Illustration: Listing: VPcode at Work A sample tool written in VP assembly language. This tool changes the backdrop picture shown on the Taos GUI desktop to another bit-map file that you select from a browse window. include "tao.inc" node bproc,CONTROLTP,0,TEMPLATE control 0,1024,DATATP,0,0,0,0 component plmthd2-bproc compend tstring plmthd2,"DESK/BACKDROP" nodeend bproc node tl_b,TOOLTP,VP,TEMPLATE tool "DESK/BACKDROP" ;inputs ;r6=control object pointer allocstruct 80,r7 loop ;request filename from user cpy r7,r0 lea bpath,r1 qcall GUI/GI_BROWSE breakif r8=0 ;GUI will be parent inquire "BACKDROP",0 breakif r8=0 ;send name to backdrop cpy r7,r1 qcall LIB/PA_SEND endloop freestruct 80 ret string bpath,"BITMAPS/*.TBM" toolend tl_b nodeend tl_b end Taos Kernel Calls This selection from among the 64 Taos kernel calls gives some impression of the kind of services that the kernel provides. Mailbox Management SENDMAIL Send a mail message. COPYMAIL Copy a mail message then send the copy. READMAIL Read a mail message from a mailbox. READTYPE Read a mail message from a mailbox; wait until specified type arrives. Control Object Management STARTCONTROL Start a control object locally. OPENCONTROL Create a control object and start locally. OPENCHILD Create, distribute, and start a control object in the network. OPENARRAY Create, distribute, and open a number of different control objects. OPENFARM Create, distribute, and open multiple instances of a control object. OPENDEVICE Create and transpor t a control object to a specified processor and start it. OPENGLOBAL Create, distribute, and open multiple instances of a control object. Guarantee one control object on every processor. OPENREMOTE Create and transport a control object to a specified processor for distribution from that processor, then start it. OPENPIPE Create, distribute, and open a pipeline of control objects. Tool Object Management VCALL Virtual call tool object. OPENTOOL Request tool object load. CLOSETOOL Close tool object. FLUSHNAMES Flush named tools from local tool list. FLUSHTOOLS Flush nonreferenced tools from local tool list. UNCLOSETOOL Increments a tool object's reference count. General Object Management VADDR Obtain address of embedded object. OBJPROC Process an object using the existing thread. LISTPROC Process a linked list of objects using the existing thread. LISTTEST Search list for types of node. Processor Type ID and Mailbox ID FINDTYPE Inquire processor ID of a processor node of specified processor type and with a minimum memory requirement. GETMYID Inquire mailbox ID of own control object. GETPARENT Inquire mailbox ID of parent control object. GETSERVER Inquire server mailbox ID for an object. NETINFO Inquire processor and network information. Illustration: The Taos operating system runs on a virtual processor. Hardware-specific kernels translate Taos VPcode into native code. The virtual processors communicate using an object-based message-passing system. Illustration: Bearing a passing resemblance to Motif, the Taos GUI is actually a class object that requires just two hardware-specific primitives to work with any display type. Dick Pountain is a BYTE contributing editor based in London. You can -- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 08/01/2000, 14:21 Assunto: Amiga e Tao Press Release http://www.realdreams.cz/AMIGA/local/8_1tao.html A Amiga Inc anunciou que seu arceiro tecnol�gico � a empresa TAO, repons�vel por solu��es de OS e rede para dispositivos dom�sticos (aparelhos de TV, etc) e mov�is (celulares, etc). Pelo visto a Amiga Inc quer usar o AmigaOS em algo que dar� muito dinheiro, ou seja, no mercado de eletrodom�sticos e port�teis. Vamos ver como isso ser� direcionado para a cria��o de um novo Amiga... Tao Group http://www.tao-group.com/ Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Marcelo R. Data: 08/01/2000, 03:39 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? FAlando nisso, estou querendo montar uma ilhota de edi��o n�o-linear. Alguem faz id�ia de que equipamento e por quanto ($$) sairia? []'s, Mar -----Mensagem original----- Data: Quinta-feira, 6 de Janeiro de 2000 23:01 Assunto: RE: Re: + de 4GB? >On Thu, Jan 6, 2000, at 02:48 PM, Marcelo R. wrote: > >> Buemba, vc se esqueceu de edi��o de v�deo n�o-linear. Isso � algo que come >> HD com farinha, como diria o Heidi. > > Nem fala (ou escreve)! Gasto MMMMbytes usando o formato YUVN... > > Bye, > > > [topo] De: Renato Sabbado Data: 07/01/2000, 16:37 Assunto: Fwd: China to ban government use of Windows 2000 > > Um forward legal para esquentar o primeiro final de semana do ano: > > - - - - - - > > Reuters > > BEIJING -- China will ban use of Microsoft Corp's new Windows 2000 > operating system throughout the government in a bid to support > indigenous software, an official newspaper reported in editions > available on Thursday. > > Officials at several government ministries said they were unaware of > such a policy, which the Yangcheng Evening News said would save the > government billions of dollars. > > ``The country's important government ministries will not permit the > use of Microsoft Windows 2000 on their computers,'' the newspaper > quoted officials as saying. > > The ministries would instead use ``Red Flag - Linux,'' a new software > platform developed by Chinese researchers and based on upstart > operating system Linux, the newspaper quoted the officials as saying. > > Weaning China away from reliance upon Microsoft software would be the > Information Age equivalent of China's invention of the atomic bomb and > launch of its first ballistic missile and the satellite, it said. > > ``Maintaining independence and keeping the initiative over our own > operating system will be the `Two Bombs and Satellite' of the new > era,'' it quoted the officials as saying. > > Windows is still far and away the dominant operating system for > personal computers in China. While piracy is rampant -- reaching a > rate of more than 90 percent by some estimates -- the Chinese > government has said it uses legally registered copies. > > Windows 2000, designed to replace Microsoft's popular > business-oriented Windows NT operating system, is scheduled to hit > markets in China in the first half of this year. > > Address of original story: > http://www.sjmercury.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/027531.htm > > - - - - - - > > --- > Giovanni Nunes, agora com ATF > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- Valeu T+ ----------------------- Renato Sabbado Cruz UIN: 40912413 ----------------------- "Viver � muito perigoso." - Guimar�es Rosa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 06/01/2000, 23:54 Assunto: Motivo da Gateway ter comprado o Amiga aquela vez... On Thu, Jan 6, 2000, at 01:17 AM, Dante Mendes De Patta wrote: > Na entrevista, Carl Sassenrath (o criador do AmigaOS original) explicou > o motivo pelo qual a Gateway comprou o Amiga: foi por causa da > patente/registro do mouse de dois bot�es (um bot�o pra clicar e outro > bot�o para acionar menus), isso mesmo, essa patente n�o � da Microsoft > (muito menos da Apple, ehehe), e sim origin�ria do Amiga. �bvio que n�o podia ser da MS. Amiga e Atari usavam 2 bot�es muito antes. Essa patente deve ser muito antiga, desde os tempos do "Lorraine". Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 06/01/2000, 23:54 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? On Thu, Jan 6, 2000, at 02:48 PM, Marcelo R. wrote: > Buemba, vc se esqueceu de edi��o de v�deo n�o-linear. Isso � algo que come > HD com farinha, como diria o Heidi. Nem fala (ou escreve)! Gasto MMMMbytes usando o formato YUVN... Bye, [topo] De: Marcelo R. Data: 06/01/2000, 13:48 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? >> N�o sei porque querem tanta capacidade! Aqui o meu 1GB so' esta' cheio a >> 65% e ja' tem 4 anos... > >Nem eu. Isso � para te manter comprando, e para isso � que desenvolvem >programas cada vez maiores, com mais e mais arquivos copiados para o teu HD >durante a instala��o (geralmente cliparts e modelos idiotas que nunca ser�o >usados) e tamb�m padr�es de arquivos de imagem com diferen�a zero em termos >de qualidade, mas com uma diferen�a brutal em termos de tamanho do arquivo >no disco em rela��o aos padr�es mais "econ�micos". Vide BMP de 24 bits ou >TIFF de 32 bits versus JPEG a 90% ou HAM-8. > Buemba, vc se esqueceu de edi��o de v�deo n�o-linear. Isso � algo que come HD com farinha, como diria o Heidi. []'s! Mar [topo] De: Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Fo. Data: 06/01/2000, 00:17 Assunto: Re: + de 4GB? Ol�, Carlos Em 03-jan-00, Carlos Serra escreveu: > Como posso usar HD's superiores aos 4GB no meu Amiga sem usar o OS3.5? Se voc� possuir uma Power Flyer, o scsi.device modificado pelo driver da placa dividir� automaticamente seu HD em parti��es de 4GB, ficando a �ltima com o resto da divis�o. Funciona para todos os OSs 3.x. Se n�o possuir, o jeito � usar o "patch" dispon�vel no FTP da Amiga, Inc. (ftp.amiga.de). O NSDPatch (New Style Device) permite ultrapassar a barreira dos 4GB nos OSs 3.0 e 3.1. ATEN��O, por�m, para uma importante desvantagem: A maioria dos programas utilit�rios, como DiskSalv, ReOrg, DiskMonTools e afins usam n�meros de 32 bits para endere�ar FISICAMENTE os setores no disco. Portanto, n�o podem ser usados nas parti��es que estiverem acima da barreira dos 4GB contados a partir do primeiro setor f�sico do disco, mesmo que a parti��o em si seja pequena e mesmo que o NSDPatch esteja sendo usado. A solu��o encontrada pelo driver da Power Flyer � mais inteligente, pois os "nacos" de 4GB aparecem como se fossem unidades f�sicas diferentes, variando o "unit number" (LUN) dentro do mesmo SCSI ID, sendo assim automaticamente compat�vel com todoso os OSs 3.x e utilit�rios. Mas s� funciona porque o hardware da placa foi preparado para isso. > N�o sei porque querem tanta capacidade! Aqui o meu 1GB so' esta' cheio a > 65% e ja' tem 4 anos... Nem eu. Isso � para te manter comprando, e para isso � que desenvolvem programas cada vez maiores, com mais e mais arquivos copiados para o teu HD durante a instala��o (geralmente cliparts e modelos idiotas que nunca ser�o usados) e tamb�m padr�es de arquivos de imagem com diferen�a zero em termos de qualidade, mas com uma diferen�a brutal em termos de tamanho do arquivo no disco em rela��o aos padr�es mais "econ�micos". Vide BMP de 24 bits ou TIFF de 32 bits versus JPEG a 90% ou HAM-8. Sauda��es, -- Otto Frederico Pereira de Carvalho Filho Rio de Janeiro, Brasil UIN: 31871550 Member of ATO-BR I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. -- Winston Churchill [topo] De: Dante Mendes De Patta Data: 06/01/2000, 00:17 Assunto: Motivo da Gateway ter comprado o Amiga aquela vez... Oi pessoal, Agora que a AMINO � dona do Amiga, vieram a tona os REAIS motivos pelos quais a Gateway tinha comprado o Amiga a 2 anos atr�s, logo ap�s o fracasso da ESCOM. O link abaixo cont�m uma entrevista com Carl Sassenrath, feita logo ap�s a Gateway ter cancelado o tal "novo Amiga" (por volta de Novembro): http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local1999/12_11exclusive.html Na entrevista, Carl Sassenrath (o criador do AmigaOS original) explicou o motivo pelo qual a Gateway comprou o Amiga: foi por causa da patente/registro do mouse de dois bot�es (um bot�o pra clicar e outro bot�o para acionar menus), isso mesmo, essa patente n�o � da Microsoft (muito menos da Apple, ehehe), e sim origin�ria do Amiga. Gateway pensou no valor estrategico que tal registro lhe daria a longo prazo, e NUNCA deu a minima para Amiga, usuarios de Amiga e coisas do tipo (e nunca dara'), a Gateway � apenas um fabricante de clones de PC que n�o entende NADA de Amiga, o cara ontem no pronunciamento falou que eles so' se tocaram da existencia do Amiga pelos milhares de emails que receberam de usuarios do mundo todo logo apos terem comprado o Amiga, por isso resolveram criar aquela est�ria toda que Amiga-NG-blabla seria o novo Amiga (que foi a pior coisa que uma compania ja' fez pro Amiga, praticamente matou todo o desenvolvimento de software pra Amiga durante 2 anos, justo quando se precisava de softs para as placas PPC). [dantz] PS.: Amino, para quem n�o sabe, e' de dois carinhas que sairam da Gateway/Amiga,Inc. Um deles, o Fleecy Moss, e' amigueiro de verdade, pois os emails dele vem com o header do YAM :) Ele fala muito e faz pouco, espero que ele inverta esse metodo de a��o agora :) [topo] De: Lux Video P Serv. e Com. Ltda Data: 05/01/2000, 20:09 Assunto: Primeiro pronunciamento Agora estamos esperan�osos de que o AMIGA retome o seu caminho de gl�ria -----Mensagem Original----- Enviada em: Ter�a-feira, 4 de Janeiro de 2000 20:04 Assunto: Primeiro pronunciamento http://www.amiga.de/diary/executive-e.html ------ EXECUTIVE UPDATE January 3, 2000 YeeHaw and welcome to the year 2000; I want to make something very clear from the beginning we have been told, that Amiga was purchased by Gateway because of the Patents, and that there were not even aware of the Amiga installed base, or the people. Gateway purchased Amiga because of Patents, we purchased Amiga because of the People. Without the people standing behind, developing, creating, purchasing and continuing to believe in the Amiga there never would have been anything for Gateway to purchase. We recognize this, and it is because of you, and what you have continued to accomplish with Amiga that we have purchased the company. I want to make sure that everyone knows and understands what this all means to you the true Amigans. Here is what was acquired from Gateway: 1. All trademarks logo's etc. 2. All existing inventory of Amiga International 3. All existing licenses. 4. License to All Amiga patents (Gateway still owns the patents, but we are able to use them). 5. All web sites, and registered domain names. 6. The Amiga OS and all that is associated with the OS. 7. The Amiga operation as it exists today. Specific details of the developer system, the OS partners and how one can begin developing will be released in the next couple of weeks. We will be making an announcement on January 8th, 2000 with one of our partners at CES in Las Vegas, and more details will follow that release. Fleecy, Myself, Petro, and the rest of the team are not going to make promises and create presentations and demos. We are going to deliver products, services, and the rest of the world will know what you have already known. We will be officially changing the name of Amino Development Corporation to the Amiga Corporation this week, and we will let everyone know of this change shortly once it is officially completed. I want to thank all of you for your continued support we will make Amiga what it should have been, and more importantly what it will be. Keeping the faith, Bill McEwen President/CEO Amino Development Corporation Copyright by AMIGA -- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 04/01/2000, 19:04 Assunto: Primeiro pronunciamento http://www.amiga.de/diary/executive-e.html ------ EXECUTIVE UPDATE January 3, 2000 YeeHaw and welcome to the year 2000; I want to make something very clear from the beginning we have been told, that Amiga was purchased by Gateway because of the Patents, and that there were not even aware of the Amiga installed base, or the people. Gateway purchased Amiga because of Patents, we purchased Amiga because of the People. Without the people standing behind, developing, creating, purchasing and continuing to believe in the Amiga there never would have been anything for Gateway to purchase. We recognize this, and it is because of you, and what you have continued to accomplish with Amiga that we have purchased the company. I want to make sure that everyone knows and understands what this all means to you the true Amigans. Here is what was acquired from Gateway: 1. All trademarks logo's etc. 2. All existing inventory of Amiga International 3. All existing licenses. 4. License to All Amiga patents (Gateway still owns the patents, but we are able to use them). 5. All web sites, and registered domain names. 6. The Amiga OS and all that is associated with the OS. 7. The Amiga operation as it exists today. Specific details of the developer system, the OS partners and how one can begin developing will be released in the next couple of weeks. We will be making an announcement on January 8th, 2000 with one of our partners at CES in Las Vegas, and more details will follow that release. Fleecy, Myself, Petro, and the rest of the team are not going to make promises and create presentations and demos. We are going to deliver products, services, and the rest of the world will know what you have already known. We will be officially changing the name of Amino Development Corporation to the Amiga Corporation this week, and we will let everyone know of this change shortly once it is officially completed. I want to thank all of you for your continued support we will make Amiga what it should have been, and more importantly what it will be. Keeping the faith, Bill McEwen President/CEO Amino Development Corporation Copyright by AMIGA -- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 04/01/2000, 12:53 Assunto: The Amiga Alternative Audio Page The Amiga Alternative Audio Page http://csc.smsu.edu/~strauser/audio.html Excelente site com diversos utilit�rios de �udio para Amiga: Lame, BladeEnc, Realaudio, Sox, e mais. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 04/01/2000, 12:53 Assunto: Y2K bugs In a message of 02-Jan-00, Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote to me: >Detectei 2 bugs semelhantes: um no LHA 1.62 e outro no LZX 1.21. Ao listar >um arquivo com data do novo ano os n�meros do ano mudam. O Zip funcionou >perfeito. Sim,o LZX da' uma data de 256 num ficheiro do ano 2000. Boa observa��o! ;^) -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 03/01/2000, 21:46 Assunto: Vaporware '99: The 'Winners' Vaporware '99: The 'Winners' http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,33142,00.html --- 2. New Amiga: Users of the much-loved but creaky old Amiga system spent most of the summer in a frenzy of anticipation after Gateway, Amiga's latest corporate sugar daddy, promised a next-generation machine so powerful it would crush everything in its path. --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 03/01/2000, 21:46 Assunto: Re: Y2K bugs On Mon, Jan 3, 2000, at 03:40 AM, Claudio Moreira da SIlva wrote: > Nao sei qual a minha versao do lha , so sei que de > sabado pra ca ela parou de funcionar , ja troquei varias vezes e nao foi > virus ou corrupcao do arquivo, estou tentando descobrir se tem algo a ver > mesmo com o tal Y2K. Simplesmente digite lha na CLI que aparecer� a vers�o na primeira linha da janela (caso ele esteja no dir C:). Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 03/01/2000, 21:46 Assunto: Czech balan�ando O Czech Amiga News decidir� at� 21 de mar�o se continuar� ou n�o existindo. Leiam mais em: http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local1999/1999e.html Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Saber como se faz uma coisa � f�cil; o dif�cil � faz�-la. [topo] De: Carlos Serra Data: 03/01/2000, 17:50 Assunto: + de 4GB? Como posso usar HD's superiores aos 4GB no meu Amiga sem usar o OS3.5? So' quero fazer parti��es com o max de 1GB mas o HD vai ser entre 4.3 a 8GB de capacidade... N�o sei porque querem tanta capacidade! Aqui o meu 1GB so' esta' cheio a 65% e ja' tem 4 anos... -- Carlos Serra [topo] De: Renato Sabbado Data: 03/01/2000, 14:13 Assunto: Fwd: [fudebareport] Kit da America Online - Versao Simplificada! > > MANUAL DE INSTALA��O DO KIT DE ACESSO DA AOL - vers�o simplificada > > Parab�ns! Voc� acaba de receber o kit de acesso da America Online. Para > ter um acesso super simples e imediato siga os 9 passos: > > Passo 1 > > Verifique se h� energia el�trica em sua casa, isto pode ser verificado > acendendo uma ou mais l�mpadas de sua casa. Se voc� n�o sabe como > acender uma l�mpada procure informa��es junto aos fabricantes das mesmas > ou o construtor de sua casa. O perfeito fornecimento de energia el�trica > � essencial para � instala��o, com sucesso, do nosso kit de acesso. > > - - - - - > > Passo 2 > > Ligue seu computador, ele � facilmente identific�vel por ser um objeto > de forma retangular que repousa ao lado ou abaixo de um aparelho que se > parece com uma TV. Junto ao fabricante do seu computador voc� poder� > obter maiores inmforma��es sobre sua apar�ncia, consulte tamb�m sobre o > bot�o que exatamente o liga. > > - - - - - > > Passo 3 > > Com o computador ligado acione o bot�o que abre o porta copos e coloque > sobre ele, na cavidade de formato circular, o CD da AOL com a parte que > possui o desenho para cima. Lembre-se de se certificar que a parte > prateada e que pode ser usada como um espelho est� virada para baixo! > > - - - - - > > Passo 4 > > Recolha o porta copos, isto � geralmente feito empurrando o porta copos > para dentro do computador ou usando o mesmo bot�o que abriu, qualquer > d�vida pode ser solucionada junto ao fabricante do seu porta-copos e/ou > computador. N�s da AOL temos consci�ncia da dificuldade criada pela > decis�o dos fabricantes de n�o colocarem bot�es distintos para abrir e > recolher o porta copos. > > - - - - - > > Passo 5 > > Coloque o pedalzinho sobre a mesa e veja que ele movimenta uma pequena > setinha sobre a tela, n�o se preocupe isto n�o � um defeito (pelo menos > se ele n�o estiver imitando os seus movimentos). Movimente a setinha at� > ela ficar sobre a palavra "Iniciar". > > - - - - - > > Passo 6 > > Com a seta corretamente posicionada pressione o bot�o esquerdo do pedal > uma �nica vez. Aten��o o lado esquerdo � onde, geralmente as pessoas > usam o rel�gio de pulso e � o lado oposto ao qual as pessoas que n�o s�o > canhotas escrevem. Bot�o esquerdo � o bot�o que est� ao lado esquerdo > dos demais em rela��o � voc�. Em caso de d�vidas sobre que lado � o > esquerdo consulte qualquer um, algu�m deve saber. > > - - - - - > > Passo 7 > > Ao apertar o bot�o aperecer� um quadradinho cinza com v�rias coisas > escritas, procure pela palavra "Executar...". N�o se preocupe com o > termo executar, ningu�m sair� ferido nesta opera��o. Computadores s�o > programados para n�o ferir ninguem, muito menos executar uma pessoa. > > - - - - - > > Passo 8 > > Ap�s escolher "Executar..." ir� aparecer um outro quadrado. Agora > voc� vai utilizar o teclado do seu computador, teclado � um objeto que > possui um n�mero grande de bot�es e em cada bot�o h�, pelo menos, uma > letra desenhada. Agora aperte as seguintes teclas neste tal de teclado: > > 1. Aperte o bot�o com um D e solte logo depois > 2. Aperte um dos bot�es com a palavra SHIFT mas n�o solte > 3. Aperte o bot�o com um : e um ; escritos, depois solte ele e o > SHIFT tamb�m > 4. Aperte o bot�o com um | e um \ e solte logo depois > 5. Aperte o bot�o com um I e solte logo depois > 6. Aperte o bot�o com um N e solte logo depois > 7. Aperte o bot�o com um S e solte logo depois > 8. Aperte o bot�o com um T e solte logo depois > 9. Aperte o bot�o com um A e solte logo depois > 10. Aperte o bot�o com um L e solte logo depois > 11. Aperte o bot�o com um A e solte logo depois > 12. Aperte o bot�o com um R e solte logo depois > 14. Aperte o bot�o com a palavra ENTER e solte logo depois > > - - - - - - > > Passo 9 > > Siga as instru��es que ir�o aparecer. Maiores detalhes, como para que > lado � o lado esquerdo, podem ser obtidos junto � nossa Central de > Atendimento pelos Telefones: > > 4493-5995, se voc� mora na Cidade de S�o Paulo, ou ent�o > 0800 78-7879 se voc� mora no Brasil mas n�o na cidade de S�o Paulo > > - - - - - - > > Se voc� tiver alguma d�vida quanto � utiliza��o do telefone contacte o > fabricante ou sua prestadora de servi�os. > > >-- Cesar on cesarcardoso at netscape dot net >Nossa Senhora de Harvard, rogai e integrai por nos! >Visite Nossa Senhora de Harvard em >http://www.geocities.com/bitatwork/nsah.html > >____________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- Valeu T+ ----------------------- Renato Sabbado Cruz UIN: 40912413 ----------------------- "Viver � muito perigoso." - Guimar�es Rosa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 03/01/2000, 02:40 Assunto: Re: Amiga foi vendido! > Parece realmente que foi criada para excluir o nome Amiga. A Gateway > despencou no mercado depois de ter comprado o Amiga. > > AmiNO= Amiga New Owner > > Bye, > > Mauro Louren�o Prezados: Ser� que estamos diante da " Maldicao do Amiga" todo novo dono esta condenado a falir depois de adquiri-lo ? ou ao menos ficar com problemas financeiros serios? e esta charadinha AMINO = amiga new owner , foi voce quem reparou Mauro ... ou viu rolando por ai ? ;o) pode nao ser mera coincidencia mesmo !! ;o) Claudio M.S. [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 03/01/2000, 02:40 Assunto: Re: Y2K bugs Hello Nautilus On 03-Jan-00, you wrote: > "Mauro Sergio Louren�o" wrote: > >> Detectei 2 bugs semelhantes: um no LHA 1.62 e outro no LZX 1.21. Ao listar >> um arquivo com data do novo ano os n�meros do ano mudam. O Zip funcionou >> perfeito. > > Isso � importante. Envie a info para a amiga.org tamb�m. > > Tchau, > > Nautilus > http://nautilus.home.dhs.org > > 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) > (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) > > --- Faz bem sair do s�rio ao menos uma vez. > > Regards OLHA ai pessoal: Nao sei qual a minha versao do lha , so sei que de sabado pra ca ela parou de funcionar , ja troquei varias vezes e nao foi virus ou corrupcao do arquivo, estou tentando descobrir se tem algo a ver mesmo com o tal Y2K. Claudio M.S. [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 02/01/2000, 23:44 Assunto: Re: Y2K bugs Hello Nautilus On 03-Jan-00, you wrote: > "Mauro Sergio Louren�o" wrote: > >> Detectei 2 bugs semelhantes: um no LHA 1.62 e outro no LZX 1.21. Ao listar >> um arquivo com data do novo ano os n�meros do ano mudam. O Zip funcionou >> perfeito. > > Isso � importante. Envie a info para a amiga.org tamb�m. > > Tchau, > > Nautilus > http://nautilus.home.dhs.org > > 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) > (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) > > --- Faz bem sair do s�rio ao menos uma vez. > > Regards OLHA ai pessoal: Nao sei qual a minha versao do lha , so sei que de sabado pra ca ela parou de funcionar , ja troquei varias vezes e nao foi virus ou corrupcao do arquivo, estou tentando descobrir se tem algo a ver mesmo com o tal Y2K. Claudio M.S. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 02/01/2000, 23:28 Assunto: Re: Amiga foi vendido! On Sun, Jan 2, 2000, at 01:03 AM, Nautilus wrote: > Sim, mas ainda n�o sabemos nem do que se trata a > empresa Amino. A semelhan�a com o nome Amiga n�o deve > ser coincid�ncia. Parece realmente que foi criada para excluir o nome Amiga. A Gateway despencou no mercado depois de ter comprado o Amiga. AmiNO= Amiga New Owner Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 02/01/2000, 23:28 Assunto: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir Hello Nautilus On 01-Jan-00, you wrote: > A CUCUG encerrou oficialmente o Amiga Web Directory, que > durante os �ltimos anos foi uma das principais fontes de > informa��o sobre o Amiga. Prezados: Mas uma coisa tambem deve ser ressaltada, hoje em dia existem varias paginas nos moldes da AMIGA WEB , prestando o mesmo tipo de servico, e da fato uma certa concorrencia se estaabeleceu, eu por exemplo me acostumei a usar o AMIGA ORG a um tempao atras e deixei de usar o amiga web, acho que a comunidade ainda eh relativmente grande, e que eh preciso ver o que essa empresa amino pretende realmente com o amiga, li ontem que eles divulgam planos semana que vem, me parece que este realmente eh o ultimo cartucho, se o amiga nao vingar desta vez tchau de vez, ate pq esta ficando a impressao la fora de que a marca virou uma batata quente rejeitada e infelizmente descredibilizada ;o( Sinceramente: Claudio M. S. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 02/01/2000, 23:28 Assunto: Re: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir On Sun, Jan 2, 2000, at 02:57 AM, Dante Mendes De Patta wrote: > > Nem te estressa, o Amiga Web Directory tava muito fraco mesmo e de um ano > para > ca' eu estou apenas usando Czech Amiga News ou Amiga.org, esses dois sao os > melhores sem duvida alguma, e o Amiga Web Directory n�o aguentou a > concorr�ncia desleal com esses dois grandes sites ;) Com a falta de novidades no mundo do Amiga, os sites de news necessitavam comentar qualquer assunto sem import�ncia para manterem a p�gina atualizada. O AWD s� noticiava o que considerava importante, da� ter sido ao longo dos anos o mais visitado ao ponto de outros o copiarem. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 02/01/2000, 23:28 Assunto: Re: Y2K bugs "Mauro Sergio Louren�o" wrote: > Detectei 2 bugs semelhantes: um no LHA 1.62 e outro no LZX 1.21. Ao listar > um arquivo com data do novo ano os n�meros do ano mudam. O Zip funcionou > perfeito. Isso � importante. Envie a info para a amiga.org tamb�m. Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- Faz bem sair do s�rio ao menos uma vez. [topo] De: Stylus V�deo Data: 02/01/2000, 23:27 Assunto: Olha o bug pessoal Vejam a data no in�cio da p�gina desse provedor . http://www.windnet.net/ Esse t� no futuro mesmo. Edson Stylus V�deo [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 02/01/2000, 01:59 Assunto: Y2K bugs Detectei 2 bugs semelhantes: um no LHA 1.62 e outro no LZX 1.21. Ao listar um arquivo com data do novo ano os n�meros do ano mudam. O Zip funcionou perfeito. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Dante Mendes De Patta Data: 02/01/2000, 01:57 Assunto: Re: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir On 02-Jan-00, Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote: > On Sat, Jan 1, 2000, at 08:21 PM, Nautilus wrote: > >> A CUCUG encerrou oficialmente o Amiga Web Directory, que >> durante os �ltimos anos foi uma das principais fontes de >> informa��o sobre o Amiga. >> http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html > > As nosss for�as est�o se esgotando... Nem te estressa, o Amiga Web Directory tava muito fraco mesmo e de um ano para ca' eu estou apenas usando Czech Amiga News ou Amiga.org, esses dois sao os melhores sem duvida alguma, e o Amiga Web Directory n�o aguentou a concorr�ncia desleal com esses dois grandes sites ;) [dantz] [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 02/01/2000, 00:04 Assunto: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir Prezados: Deem uma olha no STAFF da amiga international, sobraram 3 almas vivas entre elas o velho petro tchistenko ;o( ja chegou a haver 10 ou mais pessoas. Claudio [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 02/01/2000, 00:04 Assunto: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir Hello Nautilus On 01-Jan-00, you wrote: > A CUCUG encerrou oficialmente o Amiga Web Directory, que > durante os �ltimos anos foi uma das principais fontes de > informa��o sobre o Amiga. > Talvez a melhor. Olha eh o que disse: estes sao sinais muito claros de que as perspectivas nao sao boas. Um futuro golpe mortal na comunidade amiga que se comunica atraves da internet seria e extincao da AMINET, Deus queira que nao, mas do jeito que anda o negocio precisamos estar prontos pra qualquer coisa ;o))) Claudio M.S. [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 02/01/2000, 00:04 Assunto: Amiga foi vendido! esconhecido > nas m�quinas de procura da Internet. Com certeza a partir do dia 3 ser� > not�cia no cen�rio inform�tico mundial, como "a batata quente da > inform�tica" pulando de m�o em m�o. � marqueting puro! > > Mas a technologia continuar� pertencendo a Gateway e � quem ditar� as > regras: Transmeta ou PPC, etc. Apenas o nome "Amiga" ser� desvinculado da > empresa. > Prezados: Vou ser honesto com voces: Eu estou de saco cheio disto, 4 donos em menos de 6 anos, e nada de concreto do ponto de vista tecnologico foi desenvolvido, nao fosse a iniciativa de empresas batalhadoras e fieis ao mercado amiga como a phase 5 por exemplo, o amiga ainda estaria literalmente em 1992. Eu pessoalmente permaneco usando o amiga, por realmente ser uma maquina boa, e fazer 99% do que preciso numa. Mas quem realmente precisa de uma maquina hoje pra algo realmente serio e complexo dificilmente tem condicoes de optar por um amiga, acho que o que fica claro daqui pra frente eh que o funil da sobrevivencia do amiga esta cada vez mais se estreitando, e o interesse em revitaliza-lo como equipamento competitivo esta cada vez menor. Sinceramente: Claudio M.S. PS: SO um detalhe: esta claro que ninguem quer eh botar dinheiro pesado na coisa. ;o) [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 02/01/2000, 00:04 Assunto: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir On Sat, Jan 1, 2000, at 08:21 PM, Nautilus wrote: > A CUCUG encerrou oficialmente o Amiga Web Directory, que > durante os �ltimos anos foi uma das principais fontes de > informa��o sobre o Amiga. > http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html As nosss for�as est�o se esgotando... Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 02/01/2000, 00:03 Assunto: Re: Amiga foi vendido! Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote: > not�cia no cen�rio inform�tico mundial, como "a batata quente da > inform�tica" pulando de m�o em m�o. � marqueting puro! Sim, mas ainda n�o sabemos nem do que se trata a empresa Amino. A semelhan�a com o nome Amiga n�o deve ser coincid�ncia. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 01/01/2000, 23:36 Assunto: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir Prezados: Deem uma olha no STAFF da amiga international, sobraram 3 almas vivas entre elas o velho petro tchistenko ;o( ja chegou a haver 10 ou mais pessoas. Claudio [topo] De: Claudio Moreira da SIlva Data: 01/01/2000, 23:29 Assunto: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir Hello Nautilus On 01-Jan-00, you wrote: > A CUCUG encerrou oficialmente o Amiga Web Directory, que > durante os �ltimos anos foi uma das principais fontes de > informa��o sobre o Amiga. > Talvez a melhor. Olha eh o que disse: estes sao sinais muito claros de que as perspectivas nao sao boas. Um futuro golpe mortal na comunidade amiga que se comunica atraves da internet seria e extincao da AMINET, Deus queira que nao, mas do jeito que anda o negocio precisamos estar prontos pra qualquer coisa ;o))) Claudio M.S. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 01/01/2000, 19:21 Assunto: Amiga Web Directory deixa de existir A CUCUG encerrou oficialmente o Amiga Web Directory, que durante os �ltimos anos foi uma das principais fontes de informa��o sobre o Amiga. http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 01/01/2000, 19:19 Assunto: Amiga foi vendido! On Fri, Dec 31, 1999, at 06:01 PM, Nautilus wrote: > Isso mesmo! Vendido para a Amino Development Corp. > > Pelas primeiras informa��es a Gateway vendeu o nome > AMIGA mas manteve para si as patentes do sistema, claro... > Pelo visto preferiram desassociar o nome AMIGA de seus novos > desenvolvimentos de dispositivos para internet, mesmo sendo > estes baseados no Amiga. Parece que o nome "Amiga" hoje � sin�nimo de atraso tecnol�gico. A inten��o da Gateway � abandonar o Windows em todas as suas m�quinas e usar um sistema rodando Linux baseado numa arquitetura superior ao PC. Mas o uso do nome "Amiga" em suas novas m�quinas poderia causar um efeito negativo no marketing. A escolha (ou ningu�m se interessou?) de uma empresa do porte da Amino, entendida por n�s brasileiros como "fundo-de-quintal", fundada por Fleecy Moss e Bill Mcewen, pode ser uma estrat�gia de torn�-la conhecida mundialmente j� que o nome "Amino D. Corp." (amino�cido?!) � desconhecido nas m�quinas de procura da Internet. Com certeza a partir do dia 3 ser� not�cia no cen�rio inform�tico mundial, como "a batata quente da inform�tica" pulando de m�o em m�o. � marqueting puro! Mas a technologia continuar� pertencendo a Gateway e � quem ditar� as regras: Transmeta ou PPC, etc. Apenas o nome "Amiga" ser� desvinculado da empresa. Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 31/12/1999, 17:01 Assunto: Amiga foi vendido! Isso mesmo! Vendido para a Amino Development Corp. Pelas primeiras informa��es a Gateway vendeu o nome AMIGA mas manteve para si as patentes do sistema, claro... Pelo visto preferiram desassociar o nome AMIGA de seus novos desenvolvimentos de dispositivos para internet, mesmo sendo estes baseados no Amiga. Vamos aguardar mais detalhes. Mais info em: http://finance.individual.com/display_news.asp?doc_id=PR19991231LAF009 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991231/tc/tech_gateway_1.html http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1510896.html?tag=st.cn.1. --- Amino Development Buys Amiga Name, Inventory From Gateway Friday December 31 9:00am - Source: PR Newswire SAN DIEGO, Dec. 31 /PRNewswire/ -- Amino Development Corp., a privately held company based in Maple Valley, WA, has purchased from Gateway (NYSE: GTW) the Amiga trademarks and Amiga computer systems. Terms of the transaction were not disclosed. Peter Ashkin, Gateway senior vice president, said that the company elected to sell the name after deciding to fold Amiga's software engineering function into Gateway's product development activity as part of Gateway's overall strategy to develop and market the coming generation of Internet appliances. "Amiga, as a personal computer brand, has a loyal following of fans around the world," Ashkin said. "Under Gateway's wing, Amiga morphed into a software development company working on a new Internet appliance operating environment software. Now that we're bringing that development work into Gateway product development, it made sense to find a buyer for Amiga." "Yee-haw " said Bill McEwen, president and CEO of Amino. "This is a very exciting day, and now an even more exciting tomorrow. Now we can finish the job that was started 15 years ago." The transaction, which is effective immediately, includes the transfer of all Internet domain names related to Amiga that were held by Gateway. Gateway will retain ownership of all patents acquired when it bought Amiga in 1997. --- Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 31/12/1999, 12:20 Assunto: Re: Quietude Mauro Sergio Louren�o wrote: > Se a Amiga Inc. n�o "voar" n�o restar� outra alternativa: PC ou Mac. Para mim tanto faz, desde que seja um sistema inteligente, coisa que nenhum desses dois tem... MacOS, Windows e Linux s�o umas carro�onas. Tchau, Nautilus http://www.geocities.com/paris/3834 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- S� a verdade liberta. [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 30/12/1999, 23:32 Assunto: Re: Quietude On Thu, Dec 30, 1999, at 05:55 PM, Nautilus wrote: > Sempre que instalo algum programa no Windows, e o programa > assume para si os filetypes, e o Windows fica crecado > porque falta isso ou foi mudado aquilo, ou porque a algum �tem > chave de registro perdeu-se, lembro que basta ligar > o Amiga para ficar livre de tudo isso, e fico feliz. Mas > logo em seguida me entriste�o por n�o ter softwares com > a qualidade que eu preciso para usar no Amiga. A �nica solu��o que encontrei foi rodar velhos programas de Mac 68k no Fusion... Ainda n�o testei Linux. Os usu�rios de PC tem me informado que est�o saindo muitas vers�es dos programas de Windows. Resta saber se s�o "rod�veis" em Linux 68k com pelo menos 030/50. Se a Amiga Inc. n�o "voar" n�o restar� outra alternativa: PC ou Mac. Ainda prefiro este �ltimo pelos simples fatos de n�o depender de uma empresa (Microsoft) e de constantes upgrades. Al�m disso, desde o lan�amento do iMac milhares de programas foram colocados no mercado. O Mac j� � um micro popular e n�o mais aquela m�quina de elite (quase o pre�o de 2 A4000!) h� uns 7 anos! Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Mauro Sergio Louren�o Data: 30/12/1999, 23:30 Assunto: Amazing Computing On Wed, Dec 29, 1999, at 09:45 PM, Nautilus wrote: > > Chega o fim a revista norte-americana Amiga Amazing Computing. > Os caras batalhavam, mas a verdade � que a revista era ruim. !? Achava que era canadense... Bye, Mauro Louren�o ICQ: 15860049 http://msl.cjb.net http://msl.tech.nu [topo] De: Nautilus Data: 30/12/1999, 16:55 Assunto: Re: Quietude transband wrote: > Talvez seja o fim do ano que esteja fazendo com que esta lista esteja parada. Na verdade � um momento de quietude internacional quanto ao Amiga. N�o h� lan�amentos de hardware nem software, um mar de promessas falsas de produtos que nunca saem do vapor. Como conseq��ncia os Amigas est�o indo para arm�rios ou prateleiras de cacarecos. Sempre que instalo algum programa no Windows, e o programa assume para si os filetypes, e o Windows fica crecado porque falta isso ou foi mudado aquilo, ou porque a algum �tem chave de registro perdeu-se, lembro que basta ligar o Amiga para ficar livre de tudo isso, e fico feliz. Mas logo em seguida me entriste�o por n�o ter softwares com a qualidade que eu preciso para usar no Amiga. Ai, ai... tormento... Tchau, Nautilus http://nautilus.home.dhs.org 'Tchau' = 'Bye', in Portuguese (Brazil) (We pronounce it like 'Ciao' in Italian) --- A �nica maneira digna de venerar a Deus � levar uma vida correta. [topo] De: transband Data: 30/12/1999, 12:07 Assunto: Quietude Talvez seja o fim do ano que esteja fazendo com que esta lista esteja parada. Acho que muitos est�o viajando ou coisa parecida. Se a revista Amiga americana parou de produzir, mesmo sendo ruim � um pessimo sinal para a comunidade Amiga nos EUA que provavelmente desinteressou-se pela plataforma, pois n�o � apenas hard ou soft que mantem uma plataforma mas tambem a informa��o. Se bem que nos EUA o dom�nio fica nos A500 e A2000.e poucos A4000. |
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