A transcript of the 4/28/96 Art Bell Dreamland interview with Ghost Wolf
discussing the Earth Changes and "The Quickening" which is a shifting
in consciousness. Ghost Wolf has been called a prophet and a master teacher
by many. Source: Carolyn Goodfellow, Internet:[email protected] As posted
on 5/9/96 and following dates on Prodigy Science & Environment BB.
A: = Art Bell GW: = Ghost Wolf C=Caller
A: Robert Ghost Wolf has been called a prophet, a master teacher, a poet,
a grizzly bear. He IS "The Wolf." Always the master teacher, he
has enjoyed experience from MANY careers: country music, Native American
flutist, construction work, even the high finance of Wall Street. That's
quite a range. But, he left all of this behind for a more natural way of
life. A way closer to the memory that he held of his heritage as a Native
American. Indeed, he is a Matisse (pronounced, ma-teece), that is a mixture
- Apache, Iroquois, Lakota & one that I can't pronounce & so, we'll
ask HIM. What is that last one? I'm very sorry. I've got Apache, Iroquois,
Lakota, AND ??? .....
GW: [unintelligible]
A: Ooooh, I'm glad I asked...
GW: Iroquois
A: And, a Matisse is a mixture, right?
GW: Correct.
A: Well, I'd like to welcome you to the show. Good to have you.
GW: Thank you. Good to be here.
A: When did this change take place? When did you dump Wall Street &
dump all these other careers that you've had & go to a simpler life?
GW: I dumped the "American Dream" sometime in the mid-80's,
Art.
A: The "American Dream," huh?
GW: I've had some experiences, out in the southwest, with native teachers
who are teaching me what it is that I do today. And, I've had some experiences,
in the lodges, that made me realize that, perhaps, things weren't as I had
been told.
A: How, exactly, ARE things? I know that you deal a lot with prophecy &
we'll get into that, but you've got a little pamphlet here called, "The
Quickening," which caused my jaw to drop. I've been using that for
a couple of years, now. You know, I'm a talk show host. I deal with people,
I deal with news, I deal with current events & I began noticing, a couple
of years ago - 3 years ago, that events are quickening. Political, social,
economic.....they're all quickening. Things are happening more rapidly.....at
a faster pace. Is that the meaning that YOU attach to this?
GW: That's precisely the meaning behind the "Quickening." What
I'm working with, now, is trying to help people understand what it is that's
occurring. We are going through a shifting of the metabolic rate, if you
would, of the Earth, where time itself is speeding up. This is due to MANY
things. It's due to the shifting of the poles, which isn't a shifting that
would cause things to fall over to one side of the Earth & everything
to fall off. It's more like electrical poles that are moving & shifting
like waves. This is causing many things to change in relation to what we
have been existing under & what we would call, the old paradigm. The
old paradigm is basically what we've existed under for the last 5,000 years.
A: In what way? In other words, I see people, Robert, beginning to be.....their
irritability-level is MUCH higher & people are shorter with each other,
the state of civilization is less..... at least socially it is. Technically
it keeps advancing, but socially we seem to be regressing.
GW: I think that technically advancing is a matter of interpretation.
If we're technically advancing by using destructive forces & destructive
energies & polluting our environment & the very food & water
that we drink, then I don't really consider that an advancement. But, my
focus, with what I work with, is not so much Earth changes. They're going
to occur. We KNOW they're going to occur. But, precisely what you're talking
about.....the irritability of people, the lack of vision of youth, the feeling
of malaise & hopelessness in youth is astonishing. And, it doesn't matter
where you go. It isn't isolated to a particular region of America or Europe
or China or Africa or Japan.....it's a GLOBAL situation. Part of that has
to do with this "Quickening" & the "Quickening"
has to do with a shifting in consciousness, which is exactly what it IS.
There are so many human beings on the Earth, at this point, of that we are
shifting into a global Soul, if you would.
A: A global Soul?
GW: A global Soul. We are feeling.....what they're feeling in China,
we're feeling in the Black Hills of South Dakota. What's happening in Mexico
is being felt, emotionally, up in Canada. The reason for this is.....it's
an old Lakota saying, "We are all One," understanding that WE
are all One with the Earth. As long as we refuse to acknowledge the connection,
& what I call "the Web of Life," then we're going to find
that we're going to become increasingly agitated..... short-tempered.....
because we're not going to understand the emotional changes, which are the
things that are REALLY important, now.
A: Robert, do you remember hearing recently about the Unabomber?
GW: Yes, I do.
A: What he did was awful, of course, in killing people, but a lot of people
read his so-called "Manifesto" & frankly agreed with it, regarding
the technology & the way we're going right now. Did you have an opportunity
to review that at all?
GW: Actually, I only reviewed it from reading headlines, because I've
been on the road teaching. But, my feeling is that people are looking for
a justification for their dissatisfaction. The way that he went about it,
if he DID do this, we might never know. But if he DID do this, that's not
the way to do it. The way to DO it is not to give into anger & violence.
That's been the history of this world. Especially over the last 2,000 years.
A: I know that you deal with prophecy a great deal, so I guess I should
ask you, as directly as possible.....without change, without some change,
GREAT change in the paradigm.....overused word, I know.....where are we
headed? What is ahead for us? Can you tell me?
GW: A lot of social strife. It was the Spring Equinox of '95 where thousands
& thousands of indigenous people throughout the world, not just North
& South America, got together to bring in a new grid, if you would.
A Light grid, on the planet, which would enable a new consciousness to be
rooted here. Again, the term that could be most easily used is, "Christ-Consciousness."
If we don't create a space, if change doesn't happen.....the social structures
are collapsing, the religious structures are collapsing, financial structures
are obviously collapsing. There's no way to keep "patching up the dam."
And, all that we keep doing is trying to patch up the dam. Now, I don't
really think that's people's fault, because we don't have full information.
But, if we do NOT create change, which is what we're doing intuitively by
the emotional chaos we're going through, then there will not be room for
anything new to happen. If your hard drive is all filled up, how are you
going to put new information in? And so, when we're talking about change,
we're talking about complete change here. The globe has got to change, with
humanity & her attitude toward the Earth & each other, rather dramatically,
in a VERY short period of time. A VERY short period of time. We're no longer
on the "leisure-road-to-enlightenment." We don't have another
5,000 years to get this one right.
A: How long DO we have?
GW: According to the Hopi Elders that I work with, we have less than
five (5) years.
A: (sighing) Boy, that's what everybody says. I don't mean that lightly.
I interview a lot of people who do prophecy, Gordon-Michael Scallion &
others, & even though the roads may seem at times different, the schedules
are about the same & the end effect about the same. So many people saying
roughly the same thing & now you.
GW: We don't have to look at it as "doom & gloom." We simply
look at it as change. If we look at it as change.....when the child grows
up has to leave the home, there's a tremendous change in the whole nucleus
of the home & attitudes must adjust & people's way of life must
adjust & so, what we're talking about with the Earth would probably
be better-called a rebirthing, rather than "doom & gloom."
What we're talking about, in less than five years, is that, yes, the social
structures, the mechanical structures, the infrastructure of our social
system HAS to collapse, because it's out of control. It's ALREADY out of
control.
A: People will send me, sometimes, Robert, the definition of "Quickening."
One definition of it is: a birthing. The first feeling a mother has as the
child moves within. That fluttering feeling of movement.
GW: That's a good metaphor.
A: Yes. So, there WILL be change. Now, you say it need not be "doom
& gloom," but with this change.....if WE don't change & we
allow whatever's coming to go ahead & come, there will be many people
who will not, physically at any rate, make it to the other side. Is that
correct?
GW: That's correct. There's a situation going on relating to something
that we now call phenomenon, which it's not. This government's been aware
of it since 1962. It has to do with the orbit of our solar system. This
is very much related in the Mayan calendars, where we understood the cycles
of the universe, not just the cycles of the four seasons. Essentially, we
are now moving into this Photon Belt. The Photon Belt, very simply put,
is simply light. It's light. It's white light. And, what that's doing, the
intensity of that, is causing an expansion of the molecular structure of
things, which is why we're sensing a "Quickening." It's also got
a tremendous gravitational pull. The Earth, just a few short years ago,
was basically hurling through space at 8,000 miles per hour. At the present
velocity, you could estimate that by the year 2010 we'll be moving somewhere
around 200,000 miles per hour. So, now we're talking about actual fact of.....this
is what we're FEELING as a "Quickening." As that's occurring,
we're also feeling it consciously, because consciously..... what I try to
impress on people.....thought literally creates. Everything we have around
us is a result of that thought. In the Native American cultures, we all
have stories of how we emerged from the Inner Earth .....it's a commonality.
Also, we all have stories of this time. The Hopi prophecies, which are VERY
accurate, that are telling us about this time are WELL over 10,000 years
old. And, they're SO accurate it's frightening. They describe social changes
that we're talking about right now. They're talking about the social unrest,
they're talking about agitation of people. The agitation of people is basically
a result of being separated from their spiritual side.
A: All right. Here's an example: I work a lot with current events. A six-year-old
is accused of murder, in the Bay area. Of possibly even premeditated murder,
killing a 30-day-old infant. Two eight-year-olds involved, released now
just on burglary charges, but out children killing our children, in the
last decade I should say, Robert, children's crime has increased about 300%.
The last ten years, Robert. Nobody can ignore that. Something's happening!
GW: Something's DEFINITELY happening! Part of what's happening is that
we are losing our humanity. We are losing our soul. We are losing our spirit.
Ten years ago, this was a strange, metaphorical thing to talk about. Today,
you go to universities & people are spending hundreds, if not thousands,
of dollars trying to understand it..... including the scientists. We're
starting to understand that everything that is going on within the human
being.....illness, cancer, all of it.....is related to emotional attitude.
And, when you're dealing in a world where parents no longer have time for
their children & children no longer have time for their parents, when
the entire family structure has been basically desecrated, you're dealing
with a tremendous sense of hopelessness. Hopelessness, in any situation,
especially with the human being, will result in an outbreak of rage. And,
what we're seeing is RAGE! It doesn't really matter if it is a six-year-old
or a fifty-year old, because the human soul itself does not know age.
A: All right, Robert. I'm going to ask you to hold on. That's a good place
to hold it right there. Relax, you've got several minutes. We'll do the
news, our commercial load & we'll get right back to you. My guest is
Robert Ghost Wolf, a Native American of many tribes & we're going to
talk a bit more about the Hopi & about the "Quickening" &
about what's going on in our world. I would suggest you get into an easy
seat & prepare to listen. For a Sunday night, as always, this is Dreamland.
I'm Art Bell.
COMMERCIAL BREAK
A: This is Robert Ghost Wolf, a Native American, & we're talking about
Native American prophecy. We're talking about the "Quickening"
& at the top of this last hour, no matter what news service you had,
I'm sure you heard about the killings in Australia. It seems a man took
a gun & killed, from what I heard, about 32 people. Now, I said Australia,
not America. Normally you hear about these things in America. This time,
Australia. Robert, symptomatic of what's going on all over the world?
GW: It's VERY symptomatic, Art. We're dealing with a neurosis that has
become a psychosis. So, people, again, are releasing their frustration through
violent means, because it's the way we've been programmed in a "Warrior
Society."
A: A Warrior society.
GW: Yes, we basically have a Warrior society, which is alien to the Earth.
This is not the way things ARE here, in a natural state. If you follow the
Native American way or read it, to any degree, you'll understand that everything
was a matriarchy & not a patriarchy. Everything came through the Mother.
And, the family was held together by the Mother. The Iroquois People based
their whole cultural understanding, & their whole history & the
teachings of THEIR prophet, on the family fire. It ALL comes from the feminine
& we're living in a world where the feminine & the male are totally
out of balance.
A: Do you view, as many Native Americans do, the Earth to be a living organism?
GW: I think that that's the problem with people, perhaps, understanding
what we're discussing here. She is absolutely her own being with her own
consciousness, her own will, her own desires. We're dealing, right now,
with a very BIG problem, which, perhaps, should be addressed right now,
connected to the blast the French have done in the Pacific. If people are
so concerned about the Earth changes & they're worried about it, even
the United Nations is getting together & having meetings about it, even
the United Nations has come up with a plan called "Biodiversity,"
which is for control of the population, because of the potential overpopulation
of the Earth & the situations with pollution. Then, why would they,
on the other hand, turn around & blow up six (6) atomic bombs, in the
Pacific Ocean, & go "this has no effect?" I think maybe they
should ask the whales about that.
A: [sighing] Yeah, you know, it's funny. I'm very wrapped up in technology
& I've always thought of myself as very pragmatic, not wanting to believe
the kinds of things that you're talking about, & yet I have this nagging
feeling, Robert, that you're right.
GW: Well, I'll give you a little tactical information.....going to minerals.
It's very important to have minerals. When we do ceremonies, I tie 405 Prayer
Ties for each of the elements of the Earth. And, if we go to science, everything
in our body is made up of all the elements of the Earth. We're just basically
put together with a different recipe. Part of what's going on right now
in the "Quickening," with the infusion of this energy, which is
coming down through vibrations & Light to the Earth, from the Earth,
from the other galactic bodies in space, other planets, other galaxies &
ships,. What we're dealing with is our ability to assimilate knowledge.
How many people do we know who are suffering from iron deficiency, right
now? There's no metal in their blood.....no minerals in their blood. And,
if we go to "how do we make a simple thing like a tape cassette or
a CD disk, how does the information of a singer get on a disk & then
we take it home & play it in our little recorder & enjoy the same
thing live?" It basically comes off the forming & the pattern set
forth by the metal on the disk.
A: It's true.
GW: If we eliminate the metal from the disk or if we go over the disk
with a magnet, we're going to alter everything. And, what happens is we
either get a distortion or we can totally erase the tape. So, if everything
is coming through us in vibration, like radio waves, then if there is not
enough mineral substance within the blood to assimilate that knowledge,
we're going to have gaps. So, maybe everybody isn't suffering from Alzheimer's
disease. Maybe they're simply suffering from a lack of minerals. We're not
getting proper nutrition from food or the water that we drink. You know.
A: Yes, I DO know.
GW: When you're in a state of confusion, uh, anybody in the state of
confusion goes through a feeling of panic. And, how do we react to panic?
Unfortunately, we're reacting to panic with violence. What's happened in
the Pacific, which is quite well-known & well-established over in Europe,
which is where I heard it from, from Denmark, is basically that there is
a seven (7) mile hole that was ripped open off the coast of South America,
in the ocean floor. And, we've got millions & millions & millions
of gallons literally pouring into the inner Earth. The Earth is going to
do something to rectify that.
A: Yes. I've had that feeling, too. Many predicted Earth changes coming.
Do you KNOW what's coming?
GW: [clears his throat] I've seen things that are coming. Yes. I think
that you're going to have something major happen in the beginning to the
middle of November. Somewhere between Mexico & California. The thing
that makes it hard to predict, as to the precise longitude & latitude,
is these fissures are shifting as we are speaking. The billowing of heat....there's
a volcano that's going off, I think about 100 miles off the coast of Oregon,
that is spewing out sulfur gas, on the beaches of Oregon, that's so strong
that people can't even stand on the beach. But, we're not hearing that on
the news. We'll probably hear it on YOUR show.
A: You have. We've made people aware of what's going on off the coast of
Oregon. Coos Bay, actually, I think. Pretty much off Coos Bay.
GW: I just came back from doing ceremony with the Hopi, a few weeks ago,
& we asked questions, in ceremony, about what we should look for, that
could be happening in the immediate future that, we should be concerned
with. Much to our surprise, & to the Elders that I was with, a lot of
what we got was directed from other-dimensional beings. Not spirits. We're
talking about other-dimensional being. We're talking about extraterrestrials.
If you're ready, I'll tell you.
A: I'm ready!
GW: You're going to see a lot more interaction between us &, what
I call, the Star Beings. They come from many, many galaxies. The two, probably,
most influential, at this point, in protecting us, if you will, have to
do with the Sirians, from Sirius A, & the Andromedans. There's a star,
that we just all watched over the last few weeks, that's called the "Blue
Comet" & everybody was outside looking at it. It sorta goes back
to, what was it, the summer of '94 when the comets hit Jupiter? Well, I
thought it was rather funny watching TV, as all the scientists were telling
us that this has never happened before, they have no idea what's going on,
they have no idea what the inner atmosphere of Jupiter is like, but we have
absolutely nothing to fear.
A: Hyakutake is what you refer to...
GW: Yes, I am. Basically, the way the Hopi look at that is, that was
the fertilization of the egg. It was the fertilization of Jupiter to become
the new sun. And, this Blue Comet is referred to as the Blue Kachina. The
Blue Kachina is bringing forth the transformation. It's the announcement
that the transformation, the End Time, is here. Now, what I'm going to tell
you about the Blue Comet is that it's not a comet at all. It's a ship. It's
a Mother Ship. It's a ship from Andromeda. The ship from Andromeda is here
to make sure that others don't interfere with what we're trying to accomplish
on this globe.
A: Interesting. Scientists, for the first time ever, detected strong x-ray
emissions coming from that comet.
GW: Correct.
A: I stood up at THAT one & said, "Hmmm." And, you're saying
that was NOT a comet?
GW: No, it's a ship. It's a ship. There's another comet, a red comet,
that they reported recently. That comet is what the Hopi call, "The
Red Kachina." And, that is part of what will fulfill the prophecies
of the comet striking the Earth. Now, I'm not going to say that the whole
Earth is going to be destroyed. What I'm going to say is that a piece of
that is going to break off & cause things to change here. There's another
strange thing that's happening, that science is recording right now, &
it's all over the newspapers. Sometimes, it's called the "Taos Hum."
They're reporting strange sounds in space. They're trying to figure out
what this emanation is. This is part of what is occurring NOW. What is occurring
now is something that has never, ever happened before! It has never, ever
happened in our entire history as the human race. The universe itself is
giving birth to a new dimensional reality. What it's causing, within all
of us, is to be pulled UP. We're literally being pulled up. We're being
pulled up in our consciousness, we're being pulled up in our vibration,
we're being pulled up into another dimension. And, when people are talking
about the shift, what they're really talking about is a total vibrational
shift. And, everything in this Earth is absolutely energy. Everything is
energy. If you go to any Shaman, they will say, "It's energy."
If I emanate a sound & we're chanting a sound, we can literally cause
vibrations in the sand to alter. This sound, which is coming now from the
black holes, is literally changing the molecular structure of everything.
It's bringing everything up, so to speak, to deal with this new dimensional
reality. Which is why we are going through SO much agitation & SO much
frustration, because we still hold on to a paradigm that we live for ONE
lifetime, complete everything within that lifetime, at the end of that lifetime
we either go to heaven or hell. And, yet at the same time, we're spending
a lot of money going to psychics to have regressions about our past lives.
So, if we've had past lives, doesn't it mean there's a continuum going on
& that perhaps we are actually eternal?
A: What do you believe the nature of the Soul to be, Robert? In other words,
are we rebirthed? Do you believe in reincarnation? What do you believe IS
the nature of the Soul?
GW: I believe the nature of the Soul is the Divine spark of Life. Perhaps,
Great Spirit. Perhaps, God. Perhaps, Yahweh. Perhaps, whatever you feel
you must call this emanation of the Life Force. And, the Soul holds the
emotional memory of all things that we have ever experienced since the beginning
of time, which is why we can, through heart connection.....and it's really
only through heart connection that we can travel back through time, or move
through time. Yes, we have developed technology. We're all now aware of
the Montauk Experiment, but that is technology & a lot of things went
wrong with that technology. When we did the experiment in Philadelphia with
the U.S.S. Eldridge, Tesla SCREAMED a warning not to fool around with something
we didn't know how to control. And, yet they went ahead & did it anyway.
I had the opportunity of speaking with many of the individuals that were
ON that ship & who have come back & now are regaining full memory
of what occurred. There were many skips through the time/space continuum,
where they literally reappeared at different times, at different locations,
& there are recordings of this actually happening! Now, the frightening
thing about that is that they never stopped experimenting with those time/space
continuums. [Read The
Philadelphia Experiment]
A: They're still doing it today.
GW: They're still doing it today & we now have so many of these artificial
time/space continuums existing, that people seem to be appearing out of
nowhere, disappearing, or they're having strange experiences in the desert.....where
suddenly a ship appears in Lake Havasau & they're questioning their
own sanity about it. Everything here, if we go back to the indigenous understanding.....let's
call it the indigenous understanding, because native people that I speak
about, indigenous people that I speak about, are not just what we stereotype
as the Indian.....it's not necessarily "Dances With Wolves" &
that image. What we're dealing with is the indigenous people of the globe,
who still hold the original teachings, the memory of the original teachings,
that they have perpetuated for well over 10,000 years. WELL over 10,000
years.
A: Well, it doesn't surprise me, as you suggest, that technology is still
being experimented with. If the original story was true, & I believe
the Philadelphia Experiment DID occur, I've ALWAYS felt that nobody would
just file that technology away & stop playing with it. So, you think
that things are literally blinking in & out?
GW: They ARE blinking in & out. Again, that's due to the vibratory
rate that is increasing. And, with the vibratory rate that's increasing,
you're getting dimensions & time continuums melting into each other.
They're literally merging into each other.
A: Your name. How did you get it? Robert Ghost Wolf. What does it mean?
GW: I was given the name by a Cherakowa (sp?) medicine man. It had to
do with the fact that I had this ability, during ceremony, to go in &
out of dimensions, or disappear.
A: Really?!?
GW: And, so he nicknamed me "Ghost Wolf," & so it stuck.
That's basically how I got it.
A: Well, that's quite an ability. To literally disappear, to move...
GW: Yes, I do. I couldn't write a book about how to do it, because I
don't KNOW how I do it.
A: Where do you go? Can you tell us that?
GW: Sometimes I go back through time, sometimes I go back to where there
were great, incredible cities here in America & I've gone back to those
locations when I HAVEN'T been in that state to see if everything I was experiencing
was a vision or an hallucination. I have found Hebraic writing on petroglyphs
in New Mexico. I have found Celtic writing, which tells many things. There's
a particular place that I love down in ???, Idaho called "Buffalo Eddie,"
where the whole story of the galactic wars, we keep talking about in our
mythology & ancient Bible stories, is all recorded. The whole story
is recorded. Sometimes I find that I go to a place where I talk to, what
would be referred to as, the Ascended Masters. My word about the Ascended
Masters is that there's more than 14 & that there're a lot more women
than there are men. They're, also, from many different cultures. MANY different
cultures. What they really are, are our total Brothers living in the next
dimension that is parallel, right adjacent to this one, which is where we're
going. We're going to a fifth-dimensional reality.
A: It has been suggested to me by many that what we're doing on this planet
now is heading us in a certain direction, that will have an effect on people
in ANOTHER dimension. And that one of the reasons that we're seeing so many
ships, so many craft, is because they want to affect the direction we're
going in for THEIR own good. Anything to that?
GW: Yes, there is. I think that, first of all, that this society which
is going through its adolescence right now is still trying to determine
the reality & nature of UFOs & extraterrestrials, where most of
the indigenous cultures accept this as a part of life.
A: Long since.
GW: Yes, long since. And, this is not something new, it has been going
on since our beginnings. I mean, the cities of Quaxecoatl (sp?) & Egypt
& the mountains & the pyramids ALL have stories written in stone
about our interrelationship with galactic beings. They ALL have stories,
as Zachariah Sitchin brought out in the Sumerian records.
A: All right. Robert, we've got to hold it there. Stand by. We'll be right
back to you. My guest is Robert Ghost Wolf. I'm Art Bell.
COMMERCIAL BREAK
A: From Jody in Hawaii: Art, great start to your show tonight. It's a little
unnerving, isn't it? You coining "The Quickening" phrase &,
as I observe the world & listen to your guests, I have no doubt something
is going on. It CAN be somewhat disconcerting.
>From Mary listening in San Francisco: Dear Art, please ask your guest
about the meaning of a ceremony for "dissolving the boundaries,"
that is supposed to take place within the Navajo Nation, in the "Four
Corners" area in the next couple of months. Do you know anything about
that, Robert?
GW: I don't know enough about it to speak intelligently. I've been asked
to go down there, but my work, in that area, is with the Hopi. Unfortunately,
they don't communicate that well with each other sometimes. But, there are
ceremonies, also, going on, on the Hopi reservation, to do this, & among
the other Nations, to ease the shifting so that humanity does not go through
this emotional pain & resort to self-destruction, to resort to "the
only way to solve the confusion is through violence."
A: This piece of comet that you expect to break off, you said, & hit
Earth.....do you have any idea where?
GW: (I love this next part - Caro) Somewhere in the Nevada desert.
A: pause.....I wish people would stop saying that!
GW: Not by YOU, Art.
A: Well, I'm in the Nevada desert.
GW: I know, but we're going to do it west of you. [laughs]
GW: This way you can still broadcast what's going on.
A: It can't be TOO far west, Robert, 'cause I'm about 8 miles east of the
California border.
GW: Well, then, we'll go east.
A: Ha, ha, ha.....I see. All right, let's take a few phone calls & East
of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghost Wolf. Hello, where are
YOU?
C: Yes, I'm in Lexington, Kentucky.
A: Yes.
C: I wonder if I could ask a quick question? The first one is, what does
one do to be prepared for these changes that are coming, & second, I
was wondering if
you have any perspective on crop circles & animal mutilations?
A: All right.....to prepare for what's coming.
GW: The most important thing that you can do.....understand that Great
Spirit is simple. Everything in life is simple. As we try to analyze what's
happening & all the probabilities that could happen, we tend to overcomplicate
our reaction. The basic problem, now, with all humanity, we're all one family,
there's only ONE human race. It's the Earth race. We're ALL one humanity.
The most important thing we can do, now, is open our hearts & deal with
the intuitiveness with the feminine side of our nature. To follow our own
intuition on what to do. To open ourselves up to the spiritual side of our
nature. That's what's going to get us through this very hard time that's
coming. As far as animal mutilations...
A: Crop circles.
GW: ...and crop circles.....the crop circles are very ancient ways of
communicating. They go back to the druids & ceremonies & the understanding
of the ley lines on the Earth, where every spiritual site, which is, now,
a church or a temple, was basically built on a location where these lines
would cross & there would be an energy that emanated out of the Earth,
that would cause a cracking in dimensions. Also, what the crop circles have
to do is the communication between people from the inner Earth & the
galactic beings who are here, that are basically giving them readings on
frequency & genetics, from a level that we have still yet to comprehend.
A: All right. Well, I was going to ask if there has been any deciphering
of the crop circles?
GW: Well, actually, there WAS, quite by accident. If one were to go to
the ancient astrological symbols & the ancient Hebrew writings, what
you'll find is that they give longitudes & latitudes, dates, & they
relate to certain constellational occurrences in space, on those time lines.
It was totally by accident & I sort of said, "it can't be this
simple," but it WAS that simple.
A: So, in effect, they prophecize.
GW: Yes, they TOTALLY prophecize. They prophecize dates, locations &
occurrences. Our job is to decipher what the occurrence is. As far as animal
mutilations, there ARE other beings, who do not look at us as WE would like
to look at us. They feel that they have a right to interfere with us, because
basically they helped create what we now walk around in & call our bodies.
Grandfather used to go to the ceremony & he would always say, "it's
only a robe, you're not your body" & he meant that literally. The
mutilations that go on are basically trying to calculate our genetic code,
because we have something that no one else, in the universe, has. That is
the ability to dream-create. We have such a strong, powerful spiritual heritage,
from where we come from. We evolved, through this whole Earth experiment,
knowingly, from an extremely high level.
A: Yes. In your book, not yet finished & not yet ready for the public,
you talk.....I've got a first copy of it here.....you talk a great deal
about our dreaming, our thoughts being creativity or creation.
GW: Right. Many of the galactic beings have technology that's beyond
our comprehension. We're about to find out that there ARE, in fact, cities
on the moon & we're about to find out that, in fact, the moon is a satellite.....that
it's not even what we thought it was. A lot of this will be revealed probably
after November or December of this year.
A: Do you know the manner of that revelation?
GW: The revelation will come through an actual appearance, in a world-wide
disclosure by the global government that we are, in fact, involved with
extraterrestrials & HAVE been. They HAVE to do this because basically
the agreements that they got into with world governments, back in 1953 when
Eisenhower went out there & we made that wonderful movie, "Close
Encounters...," about it, but it was very coded, is that basically
their contracts are up in 1997. They have to turn over their part of the
contract which, unfortunately, was US.
A: Excuse me? Let's roll over that one, one more time. Their part of the
contract, to them, is us.
GW: Yes. The governments of this world, & whoever the mysterious
ones are, whether they be the Illumini, the Burgermeisters, the Grey men,
whatever term you want to use, basically made an exchange agreement with
extraterrestrials, for technology, & the agreement, for the extraterrestrials,
was that they would have full rights to US, which is why there have been
so many abductions. In Westchester County, New York, over the past three
(3) years, there's been over 5,000 missing children. Where do they go?
A: Well, some of it has terrestrial explanations, surely, but perhaps not
ALL of it. All right, let's go back to the lines. West of the Rockies, you're
on the air with Robert Ghost Wolf. Good evening.
C: This is Fritz calling from Phoenix.
A: Hello, Fritz.
C: Ghost Wolf, give us something "heavy." You've been teasing
us with ET's, motherships & certain knowledge from ET's. Give us something
"heavy." Did you
have an encounter? Does your encounter go back to childhood? Has your family
had an encounter? You know, give us something "heavy."
GW: Something "heavy?" Yeah, I've had an encounter. I've
been on the ships. I've done ceremony where there's been more than ONE of
us, there's been as many as 14 people lifted up to the ships. The communication
between extraterrestrials & indigenous peoples is a longtime relationship.
Unfortunately, in America, for some reason, most of what's occurring seems
to be blocked from the news media. There was an incident that happened,
I believe it happened last October, over Phoenix. Thousands & thousands
of people saw a UFO. It was on the 10 o'clock news, it was on the 1 o'clock
news, then suddenly disappeared on the 5 o'clock news. You had an incident
that happened, just a short while ago, down in Mexico City where hundreds
of thousands of people witnessed these ships.
A: It's true!
GW: Yet, there was hardly any mention of it at all, except for a few
seconds here & there, & probably only on the Art Bell show.
A: Well, as a matter of fact, Robert, it's ongoing. People are STILL seeing
these craft, in Mexico City, & it goes on so frequently that it's not
even reported on anymore.....just goes on & on & on. And, I'm told
the people in Mexico City are so used to seeing these craft, now, that it's
just nothing special to them.
GW: No, it's not. They don't even react to it anymore.
A: I know. That's amazing, isn't it?
GW: But, if you want something "heavy," I can give you something
"heavy." How's THIS for "heavy?" You have a situation
that's about to flare up in the Middle East. Again. You know, Desert Storm
that was over & we played with our war toys & we won?
A: Yes.
GW: And, we got to exercise early & find out what we COULD do &
what we COULDN'T do & just how much people would accept & anyone
who's been traveling through airports, lately, will understand what it is
that we're supposed to be accepting. You're basically checked 3 or 4 times,
in the same airport, getting on the same plane. It's just more control.
Well, the reason for more control is simple. They're losing control, so
what do you do, you employ MORE control. You have a situation going on in
the Middle East, which is about to flare up, again, & part of the reason
that's flaring up is the underground installations there, which were basically
designed & created with extraterrestrials. You have a situation where
the war is going to flare up & the danger of that area & all the
stored chemicals for germ warfare, that are there, would impose too much
of a danger to this global unit, as a whole entirety. Understand that the
extraterrestrials & Native Americans both understand that this is a
living being. She cannot, & WILL not, be allowed to be destroyed, no
matter what her children decide they're not going to do or listen to, or
if they decide to go beyond reason & become totally violent & self-destructive.
They will NOT allow that to occur. They will not intervene, at this time,
which is part of the reason why your prophecies, if you go to the Mayan
prophecies, ..... all prophecies ended in 1987. They literally ended in
1987. What we're walking on, right now, is a blank page. And, the reason
why we're walking on the blank page is because everything that happens between
NOW & THEN, is what we write ON it. Meaning, what YOU live, what YOU
dream, how YOU choose humanity to be, is going to be the way it's going
to be. This war that will break up.....we asked, "well, what can happen?
What can we do to stop it?" And, they said there's NOTHING you can
do to stop it.
A: You know, Robert, it's funny you said that. It feels, it kinda FEELS
like a blank page. You know it?
GW: It's total choice. It's total freedom, which is the one thing that
is totally essential to ALL human beings everywhere.....it's freedom of
expression. If we don't have that.....you know, the most sacred thing to
ALL Native Americans is free choice. That's why we don't have a religion,
we call it a "Way." We could all see & talk & work with
Spirit & Creator, in the manner in which our hearts directed us. We
all understood that "Way." But, we would NEVER take away someone's
personal choice to express it how they saw it. Choice was worth more than
anything.
A: All right. East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghost Wolf.
Hi.
C: How are you doing?
A: Ok. Where are YOU, please?
C: I'm calling from Montreal, Canada.
A: Montreal? All right.
C: I would like to share some information with you, if I could.
A: Go ahead.
C: I've been listening to your program for a few weeks, now. I am a Ascetic
(?) Jew. And, your ??? to ancient Hebrew.....I studied ancient Hebrew in
Jerusalem for 6 " years & I've been studying ever since 1978. The
Ascetic (?) has been informed, by a spiritual leader, that the arrival of
the biblically promised Messiah is imminent. You mentioned this concept
of "Quickening." Everyone is aware, to use an old expression,
a paradigm change going on. The Persian Gulf war is referred to, in the
"Book of Prophets." The impact on Planet Jupiter, by the comet,
is referred to in the "Kaballah," which is a book of Jewish mysticism.
What is happening is that we're actually going into a transformation of
"beating swords into plowshares" & everyone is upgrading their
spirituality. This planet is going to become infused with an awareness of
Godliness.
A: All right. Robert, that would be a different perspective, but again it
sounds like the same...
GW: Well, it IS & it's NOT. The Hopi refer to the emergence of the
"Fifth World," which is what we're going into now. It's called,
"When man walks upright, when man returns to his spiritual nature,
when man becomes ONE, again, with the Creator, when he unites with his spiritual
side." What's happening, all over the globe now, is sort of a free-form
Ecumenical Council between the spiritual understandings. We ARE becoming
one race. We ARE becoming one understanding. There's too many ties between
the different sides of the globe, the different cultures & every religious
writing that has ever occurred..... before 2,000 years ago. They're ALL
pointing to the same thing, they're ALL pointing to a unity. There is writing
in Peru, on the sides of buildings, that are Egyptian hieroglyphics. I have
artifacts that were given to me, to hold in trust & share, that come
from pyramids in Illinois that have carved figures of Horus.
A: Where in Illinois?
GW: In the mountains in Illinois. I would prefer to just put it that
way, before he gets inundated with people. There're also statues there,
that he found, of these winged-beings. They're basically bringing us all
to one understanding &, yes, we ARE being uplifted & if this gentleman
would like to get hold of me, I would love to take him to New Mexico &
show him the writings that DO refer to this time & the "Quickening."
A: How DO people get hold of you, by the way? I'd like to give you an opportunity
to "plug" anything you've got.....a book or whatever.
GW: Well, we just went up on "the net," so they can get us
at: ryannet.com/wolflodge.
Or, they can call us at: (360) 376-6081.
A: What will people get at that number?
GW: Right now, they'll get an answering machine, because I'm over here
in Spokane talking to YOU.
A: Ok. That's (360) 376-6081.
GW: Correct.
A: All right. West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghost Wolf.
Hi.
C: Hi.
A: Where are YOU, sir?
C: I'm in Port Orchard, WA.
A: All right.
C: This is Patrick &, Art, I actually called you last week &
I'll try to make it quick because I know you don't have a lot of time for
each caller. I wanted to talk to Ghost Wolf. I'm the guy who called &
went to the Amazon with the Hopi medicine men about a year-&-a-half
ago. We went down there & did some work with plants, with the Peruvian
Shaman, deep in the jungle. Many of the things that Ghost Wolf has been
talking about has to do with plants. If you connect everything & the
Earth as being created by the Creator, in total balance & harmony, for
every illness - emotional, physical, mental, - there is a plant cure. They
live in the "4th World" & are constantly finding ways to use
the plants to heal these different kinds of problems. One thing I'll offer
to people, with the coming of what's happening, is that everything that
has been created by the Creator was created in the essence of love. Not
out of fear.
A: The only thing I would add to that is that we're rapidly burning down
those areas. As a matter of fact, there'll be a repeat of the Edgar Mitchell
interview.....Apollo 14 astronaut, Edgar Mitchell.....& he specifically
said you can look down space, & the one thing he noted was the burning
of the rain forests. So, those areas, with those answers & those plants,
rapidly are shrinking. Isn't that correct, Robert?
GW: Yes, it IS correct, Art, but, understand something beyond the principle
that we're talking about here. Meaning, in every area, the plants that grow
where you ARE, are the plants that you take. If you take herbal medicine
from another part of the globe, it is not necessarily going to affect YOU
or are you going to utilize all the elements in that herb, the way you would
if you took things from right where you ARE.
A: So, you have what YOU need.
GW: Everyone has what they need. There's always people going around storing
food & building these undergrounds & buying 16 tons of wheat. That
won't work. You're going to have to learn how to forage. You're going to
have to live off what you are, where you are. Yes, there's a cure for every
illness, in your immediate area, that you would come down with. There's
also an antidote for every poison within 20 feet of what that poison is.
A: Well, for me, Robert, that would mean I'm going to have to learn to eat
rabbits....& QUICK! "Cause that's what we've got here. LOTS of
'em. This is Dreamland. I'm Art Bell. We'll be right back.
A: Robert, I want you to listen to this. It's a fax. Linda Howe, for a number
or weeks, now, has been reporting on a creature called, 'The Goatsucker.'
Or, 'La
Chupacabra,' I believe it is. But, I just got this fax & maybe we can
work it in:
"Dear Art: 'The Goatsucker' west Bexar County, last night, & mutilated
nine goats. Three goats are, also, missing. One goat survived the attack,
with wounds & scratches. The news team also interviewed an eyewitness
from an attack earlier this year. The creature described as having wings
& an alien head. Contact Channel 12, KSAT TV, for more information."
Well, I would if I knew where they were, but, Robert, what do you know about
these? We keep getting reports
on these creatures...
GW: They're there.
A: ...uh, alien creatures.....more & more of them. It began in Puerto
Rico & it is spreading! What's going on???
GW: As a matter of fact, I've been asked to go down to Puerto Rico, to
deal with the problem, with some people down there. Remember we talked about
time/space continuum? The collapse of time & the merging of things?
A: Yes! And, the blinking in & out!
GW: The blinking in & out. And, do you remember Notre Dame? The church
in Paris?
A: Yes.
GW: And, do you remember gargoyles?
A: Yes.
GW: And, do you remember griffins? That's what they are. They're not
extraterrestrials. They're not aliens. They're Earth creatures. They're
something, from another dimension, that's been kept away from here. You're
going to hear about them soon in South America.
A: We already have. We've heard about them in Florida. And, I'm not exactly
sure where this county is, but it's obviously in this country somewhere.
GW: I've never heard of that county.
A: Nor have I, but I can look up the TV station's call-letters & I WILL
find out. Fascinating what's going on! Listen. Again, what they're calling
the massacre, in Australia.....the young children killing each other, in
this country.....Chicago, a child dropping another child out a window because
it wouldn't steal for the other child. There was a movie I saw called, "The
Seventh Sign." I think it was with Demi Moore. In it, it was suggested,
that the ???, that place that holds the souls for those that enter the world,
became empty. And, I'm not saying that's happened, Robert, but it's as though
we have some "soul-less beings" with us.
GW: On many different levels. We have soul-less beings that are being
cloned right now, by our government. We, also, have soul-less beings that
are being cloned by the Greys. It's all connected to the cattle mutilations.
They have been able to take human genetic & mix it with THEIR genetics,
but what happens is, they create a "hybrid" & the hybrid does
not have a soul. It is a clone. And, the Life-force, which is Spirit.....only
Great Spirit can create life.....these beings, they cannot keep them alive,
past a certain period of time, so they continue abductions & the mutilations
are to try to take the Life-force & feed it to these hybrids. This,
again, is nothing new. Unfortunately, it's been going on for over 35,000
years.
A: All right. Here's a fax from "J.T." in Morgan Hill. "Please
ask Mr. Ghost Wolf this, about his reference to our spiritual ability to
create through dreams. The Australian Aborigines have an oral tradition
of a time, before the creation of the world, & they call it, the 'Dream
Time.' Does he see us returning to this point &, if so, what was the
whole point of our existence in this plane?"
GW: We ARE returning to "Dream Point." When we go through the
shift.....the Hopi have told their children that, "when these days
come, you are to go inside your houses & close the doors." Many
of the Lakota people have told their children to, "Go inside the sweat
lodge & close the flap & don't look outside. Things will be happening
that will drive you mad. You will not understand it & you will not be
able to deal with it, so go inside some natural structure, go inside the
sacred places & shut out the light, shut out what you are seeing."
We are going through, again, this dimensional shift, which everything that
we have ever created in our thoughts is existing out there. There are those
rather naively say, "Well, there cannot be these evil spirits &
dark things out there." But, we live in the world of Man, & man
created that, so to man, they are realities. "Skin Walkers," in
the southwest, are very real.
A: Skin Walkers?
GW: Skin Walkers. Beings.....entities who get a little "twisted
out" with medicine & they basically move into the body of another
being & they take over their soul. They take over their soul. It sounds
like something out of a Casteneda novel, but I've seen the results of these
things. Just like the reports you're getting about the Chupacabra. They're
happening!
A: They ARE happening! I mean, it really is true. People sit out there,
probably, shaking their heads, but these reports are numerous &, apparently,
very, very real. I mean, they've got a LOT of physical evidence, now. There's
something here, that was not here before! West of the Rockies, you're on
the air with Robert Ghost Wolf. Hello!
C: Bexar county is in Texas. B-E-X-A-R. San Antonio area.
A: San Antonio area, huh?
C: Yeah, I grew up there.
A: All right. I appreciate that.
C: I'm in Fairbanks.
A: Fairbanks, Alaska. WAY out there! That's a long way from Texas!
C: I'm fascinated with the subject. What do you think of the effect of
moon & how it relates to the Earth? I mean, it's sacred!
A: As a matter of fact, he was talking about that a little while ago. You
may have missed that part. There are going to be revelations regarding the
moon, aren't there, Robert?
GW: There definitely are. I believe he was on your show this week? Richard
Hoagland?
A: Yes.
GW: My only complaint about Richard is, why don't you just TELL them
it's a satellite? Why don't you tell them just exactly what you have? I
mean, he's got indisputable evidence of it. Undeniable evidence. He's, also,
got undeniable evidence of OUR presence on the moon, as well as the presence
of OTHERS, on the moon, that don't necessarily come from here.
A: Well, we have two distinct views. One is going to be repeated tonight.
I ran the Richard Hoagland show, repeated last night. Tonight, the show
with Edgar Mitchell, who walked on that moon & said it was "so
much Green Cheese." So, I'll leave it up to the audience.
GW: [laughs]
A: Your view?
GW: My view is that it's a total artificial satellite. It was brought
here many, many, many years ago. There are many stories, in our Native American
history, about two moons. One of those moons is, now, orbiting Mars. One
of the original moons, from here, is now orbiting Mars.
A: Wouldn't be Phobos, would it?
GW: Yes, it would.
A: [sighs] You know, Robert, for what it's worth, Gordon-Michael Scallion,
who I have been following very carefully & has been on my program any
number of times, apparently has made a recent prediction.....I didn't see
it.....but, a recent prediction that Phobos would break from its orbit &
head, or be hurled, toward Earth.
GW: Mmm-hmmm?
A: Have you heard that?
GW: Yes, I have. My comment on it is, through Andromedan connection.
Basically what's happened is, the Andromedans, who we're very close with
because there was a very large human colony in Andromeda. When beings ascend
from this plane, they don't just go to some metaphorical, gaseous space,
they actually go to other solar systems. Basically, everything that we call
reality can be located in a very narrow band around the Earth, called the
"Biosphere." Once you get beyond that, as the astronauts can attest
to, time stops, aging stops, strange phenomena seems to occur. What we're
dealing with is, the Andromedans have basically declared this a "No
Interference Zone," for the next five years, & they've ordered
all alien interference, meaning from the Inner Earth to the secret chambers
under the White House to the Kremlin, that all alien interference on this
planet must be off this planet by 2003. The appearance of the Blue Comet,
at this particular time, as we're viewing time, is because of the enforcement
of their decree of non interference with us & this mother ship, which
is what it is, is just outside of our solar system & they have many,
many, many smaller ships coming in to stop the skirmishes. The clones who.....there
aren't that many Greys. There's only about 2,000 Greys. Maybe you're dealing
with 3,500 to 5,000 clones. They're NOT Greys. They weren't the original
seed, by creation. They were created in a laboratory. Anyone who is aware
of what goes on at Los Alamos can affirm that. What we're dealing with,
with this, is that everyone must be off the planet by 2003. 2003 is approximately
when that shift will happen. It's very hard to determine this in time, because
the time/space matrix that we live under is artificially maintained &
created.
A: That's not very long at all, is it?
GW: No, it's not & by the year 2009, you can expect most of your
Earth changes, the MAJOR cataclysmic happenings, to begin to accelerate.
A: The White Buffalo. The birth of the White Buffalo. What can you tell
us about that? What does that mean?
GW: It's the fulfillment of a promise. It's the fulfillment of a promise
by the "Calf Woman," who brought the sacred rites to the Lakota
Nation. There are many, many stories of the Indian Messiahs, which have
yet to be publicized. The Messiah was not an occurrence that happened in
just one place. Over here, the Messiah has many names, also. Amaru (sp?)
down in Peru, Degonaweda (sp?) with the Iroquois, Buffalo Calf Woman. It
was a woman! Let us say that Native Americans had sacred women before the
rest of the world allowed them to be sacred. The fulfillment of the promise
is, the return of.....we don't look at this time as "doom & gloom
& everyone will die." It's not ABOUT that. It's about that everyone
has the chance, now, to walk over the bridge. And, walking over the bridge
is a very simple matter of respecting the spirituality of ALL things. From
the plant to the stone to the human. If we're having problems trying to
figure out why we're not communicating with extraterrestrials, perhaps,
first, we should change our judgments of people of different color &
different creed. We can't even accept each OTHER. It's hard to accept each
other, in one FAMILY. Nevermind accept an alien, who might have blue skin,
because it comes from a place that has a blue sun.
A: Yes, I do. East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghost Wolf.
Good evening.
C: Yeah, good evening, Art. Thank you. I just have a question. I'm going
back to his discussion of the shift. I guess what he says is, 2003.
A: Yes. Where ARE you, please?
C: Oh, I'm calling from right near the Black Hills of South Dakota.
A: All right.
C: I came out here for obvious reasons. I'm questioning.....he said to
go inside a house or a hogan or whatever.....& watch. Now, as I understand
it, there are supposed to be high winds, up to 300 mph.
GW: They'll be MORE than that.
C: Ok, then, going into a house would not do any good. You would need to
underground, basically, to be safe somewhere.
GW: Go into a sacred cave.
C: OK.
GW: Stay within the trees.
C: That's what I thought.
GW: Stay within the trees. The danger is not just from that. The
danger is, also, from the radiation. There's a thing called, the Masonic
(?) Radiation Belt. This is descending on the Earth, now, because the Ozone
has been damaged. This is, also, causing a lot of the insanity
