No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church

See here for text sent me by Ibranyi, a collation of Papal statements on "Extra Ecclesia Nulla Salus." Ibranyi does not give the quotation from Trent, though he lists Trent. Again, none of these statements have any actual value in this matter, for they state or assert one Catholic doctrine without discussing the matter of this controversy - Salvation and membership by Implicit Desire and the resultant Baptism of Desire. It is again just another dishonest attempt by Ibranyi to overawe the reader by his quotations.

I also include here another document of Ibranyi, which is again full of lies and misrepresentations. He says, giving his list of persons, etc., who he says teach against the Baptisms of Blood and Desire, that, "The purpose of these questions is to prove that this heretical teaching has never been taught from any recognized Catholic from the time of Peter the first Pope to Pius IX, and it has not even been taught by Pope Pius IX as you will find below. It has never been a part of tradition (what was taught everywhere, by everyone, and at all times) in any way. As a matter of fact, the Solemn Magisterium, the popes, have condemned this heresy time and time again." Then he goes on to ask, "How is that for credible evidence? I�ll match these popes and councils against any 18 th ,19 th or 20 th century heretical theologian or canonist. Every recognized Father, Doctor, and saint of the Church has taught this dogma. I will list a few, Saint Irenaeus (died A.D. 202), Origen (died A.D. 254), Saint Cyprian (died A.D. 258), Bishop Firmilean (died A.D. 269), Lactantius (died A.D. 310), Saint Cyril of Jerusalem (died A.D. 386), Saint Ambrose (died A.D. 397), Bishop Niceta of Remesiana (died A.D. 415), Saint Jerome (died A.D. 420), Saint Augustine (died A.D. 430), Saint Fulgentius (died A.D. 533), St. Bede the Venerable (died A.D. 735), Saint Thomas Aquinas (A.D. 1274), Saint Peter Canisius (died A.D. 1597), Saint Robert Bellarmine (died A.D. 1621)." This is merely effrontery, for these very saints and others have also taught, as shown in the following document, the Baptisms of Desire and Blood!

Blood & Desire

See source here. This is originally the work of an apologist for the New Church, and therefore I have edited it to exclude New Church citations etc.

Also, because of its size, I have broken it into several documents:
  1. Signal Teachings
  2. Church Fathers
  3. The Council of Trent
  4. Magisterial Pronouncements and the Popes
  5. Church Documents on Feeneyism
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