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| While I think discussion on The Name of YHVH {HaShem} and the way It "might" be pronounced is fine - I believe that The Sacred Name of HaShem is too Holy for us as Believers in Messiah to argue over. I've heard some on here cut-down others for the way they pronounce HaShem (or don't pronounce HaShem) and that is just not right. While there is evidence that it probably is pronounced one of about three different ways as presented by scholars (out of the 30 or so it could be pronounced!) We still do not absolutely know. And not knowing, short of ALL the ways being Holy as His Name is Holy - then it is wrong to put down others for how they call on HaShem out of a sincere heart. For (but one) example... Professor Young, author of Young's Concordance and Young's Literal Bible Translation - is one of the foremost Hebrew scholars in the last 150 years. There are many people/scholars that insist that "Yahweh" is absolutely the correct way to say HaShem; however: Prof. Young (in my humble opinion) proves in the forward to his translation of The Bible that the "wav" imperative is impossible! - and thus YahWeh can't be correct (YahVeh at best). But I believe that it is wrong to tell folks that they are in error for their sincere worship of HaShem using this form of The Name. And what if it is Yahveh?! Sure sure there is less proof for this form - but there are three forms of HaShem out there that have a very well reasoned argument for their usage. (I'm sure that most on here have their favorite) - but it still is not 100% conclusive beyond controversy for any one of the three or so! And I'm not going to take the position that one is in error - and I'm correct, when no one is 100% sure who is correct! Even in: The Scriptures 1998, Institute For Scripture Research (PTY) LTD: Messianic translation of the Holy Scriptures {South Africa http://www.messianic.co.za} they couldn't 100% agree amongst their scholars as to the exact way of rendering It - and so use YHVH in Hebrew letters. Should we study it, yes, and I'll continue to study the issue myself. - But there are few arguments that could cause as much disunity in the Body of Messiah as this one (and judging by the things I see going on lately...oy!) So let's be careful when we tell others that they're in error - or that the form of HaShem they use is perversion - when the issue is still dogmatic as it is not 100% proven - (except in some folks minds). Again - there are scholars, Messianic included, on all sides of the issue of about 12 or so of the 30 some ways to pronounce HaShem! It doesn't matter whether there is the in-the-middle contraction (as in Y'hoshua) or the end (as in Eliyahu) we still just don't know as in proper names in Tanakh we only have a contraction! - Add to that that some believe it is probably related to Havah from Exodus - yet we still don't know! -- (I like Yahavah, or Yahooay) - as Exodus uses the form: Hayah, and Y'hudah is close to YHVH in form. I have read from Professor Young to bubkis - and the bottom line - NO ONE is 100% sure! So when the Rabbinim state that only Mashiach when He comes (again) will be able to reveal the correct pronunciation of HaShem - perhaps they just aren't whistling Dixie (which reminds me of the Patriot - good movie - go see it.) But I will offer something to consider... usually the notion is to error on the side of caution - having said that - if one reads the Sacred Texts of Tanakh as they've been handed down from the Matsoretic Scribes for the Name of HaShem - then one can't be in condemnation for doing so. Even that Rabbi's say that it is permissible to read It as such if one doesn't catch oneself in time to stop oneself. - (So here is consideration for those who say HaShem should be pronounced as: Yah'hovah or Yehovah.) So, did the Matsoretic Scribes leave YHVH as It was to be used with vowels, and only "say" it was changed? - Some scholars think so. Lately some have been discussing the possibility that perhaps as YHVH is unique and Holy in Hebrew - all Hebrew vowels with it are Holy. - And I kind of like this reasoning - perhaps it is so. Below is a good Web source on The-Name YHVH for further research.... http://www.yahweh.org/ http://www.yahweh.org/publications.html |