It seems odd that you feel the need for anonymity. If you have to worry about rabid fundamentalist religions, let me suggest that you take a good look at religions in the UK. Christians aren 't blowing up train stations and driving airplanes into buildings.
It is also amazing to me that you think that OCC is somehow secret about its purpose. In the third paragraph of the pamphlet that each person uses to put in the monetary donation and contains the stickers says the following: " Most important, these shoe boxes provide opportunities for local believers to tell children about Jesus Christ through Gospel literature and evangelism programs ." T hese are the words of Franklin Graham. There is a picture of Billy and Ruth Graham in the pamphlet , for goodness sake. Does someone think Billy Graham has become a secularist?
Let me see some guts on your part. I 'm Alan < rest of details deleted by occcritic >. Who are you?
I would be surprised to hear from you. Pleased, but surprised.
Alan
I t is also amazing to me that you think that OCC is somehow secret about its purpose. In the third paragraph of the pamphlet that each person uses to put in the monetary donation and contains the stickers says the following: " Most important, these shoe boxes provide opportunities for local believers to tell children about Jesus Christ through Gospel literature and evangelism programs." These are the words of Franklin Graham. There is a picture of Billy and Ruth Graham in the pamphlet, for goodness sake. D oes someone think Billy Graham has become a secularist?
I also get plenty of emails from evangelicals who claim that OCC is quite transparent and everyone ought to know that they use the shoeboxes for evangelism. I point out to them that they are transparent in evangelical churches and with people who they think are sympathetic. In the national and local press they are more guarded, and often mislead people.
e.g.
The Rev David Applin, chief executive of SPI, admits that a religious pamphlet - "The greatest gift of all" - is distributed with the boxes (though not inside them). But he denies that the appeal is evangelical. "The word evangelical has connotations and I prefer to think of us as a Christian group," he says, adding that he does not regard SPI as a missionary agency.
( http://society.guardian.co.uk/societyguardian/story/0,7843 ),861580,00.html
However Compare this with what Samaritan's Purse tell the faithful in their Newsletters and on fundamentalist church websites:
From www.samaritanspurse.org/about/pdf/AR2003.pdf
"We shared the Gospel with them and distributed Bibles," Victor said. "Each time we do a distribution, it begins with a testimony that Jesus loves you and died for you...Operation Christmas Child is one of the best evangelistic tools because it is a gift," ministry partner Victor Kulbich said. "It opens the door to telling about Jesus. "
If you've seen "The greatest gift of all" (see http://www.geocities.com/occcriticism/booklet.html ) then it should be obvious that to deny its purpose is evangelical is completely dishonest!
Also contrast the following:
"We're over there trying to help them, we're trying to make the quality of their lives better and we're not over there to convert them." [Sean Campbell, executive director of Samaritan's Purse Canada.]
vs.
The Christian organisation "Ministrywatch" http://www.ministrywatch.org/mw2.1/H_Home.asp contains the following statement at
http://www.ministrywatch.org/mw2.1/F_SumRpt.asp?EIN =581437002
The conversion of the lost is the ultimate and expressed goal of
Samaritan's Purse. This fact distinguishes them from many other
relief and development organizations, even some others which are
Christian in name and in charter.
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Obviously, I would be delighted to respond. First, let me say that any threat that happened to you, or your family is completely unacceptable. It was not Christ like and is totally without regards for the Christian faith for which they claim to stand. On that, we would totally agree. It has been my experience in the local church that often people will use the name of Christ for all sorts of non-Christian things. It is a way of getting their name, or their own anonymity, mentioned in connection with anything that may be controversial. And there can be people who are using this opportunity to trash Christianity, by claiming to be a follower themselves. Also, regrettably and tragically, there are some who are mentally challenged. Those seem to populate any and all religions and no religions at all.
I have no connection to OCC other than supporting it's overall purpose, and participating in making and assisting in the collection of the boxes. It seems logically to me that the OCC personnel would not allow you to show materials over which they had no prior knowledge. This was be the equivalent of allowing people to post materials on your website without the use of a moderator, or webmaster.
I would also agree with you that any person speaking for OCC should be straightforward in stating that there is a distribution of materials along with the boxes. That material does tell the story of Jesus Christ. It is hoped that all will believe. Of course, Christmas itself is the beginning of the earthly story of Jesus Christ, which all Christians hope will be embraced by others. It is not, after all, Operation Holiday Child. The term evangelical has become a buzz word. Its meaning to some is that we will beat you over the head with a Bible until you believe. A booklet that tells a child why Christmas is celebrated in the first place, does not seem like an overly overt and oppressive Christian response. After all, many of the great hospitals and universities of our world were established by people hoping to bring the message of God to those who had not heard by healing and educating them. Eliminating such relief is to eliminate much of the good works going on in our world.
I am saddened that you felt as though you were misled at any point. I am saddened that OCC has become a cause over which you feel you must object. I certainly disagree with you, but in the great tradition of my country (which we stole from yours!) will defend to the death your rights to that opposition.
I do trust that this message finds you well. I also trust that you see that I am not a fire breathing fundamentalist wacko. I never breath fire!! No seriously, I am glad to have this dialogue with you. If I may be so bold, it is my prayer that your family is safe, healthy and happy.
Yours,
Alan
It seems logically to me that the OCC personnel would not allow you to show materials over which they had no prior knowledge. This was be the equivalent of allowing people to post materials on your website without the use of a moderator, or webmaster.
I would also agree with you that any person speaking for OCC should be straightforward in stating that there is a distribution of materials along with the boxes.
It is also amazing to me that you think that OCC is somehow secret about its purpose.
A booklet that tells a child why Christmas is celebrated in the first place, does not seem like an overly overt and oppressive Christian response.
...regardless of their faith (or none), all children receiving shoeboxes are intended to be registered in advance, attend a Christian rally, and receive Christian literature again wherever the government allows it (http://www.pursestrings.ca/shoebox.htm ). There are also evangelical follow up meetings subsequent to the distributions.
...besides being given biblical literature translated into their native language, each child wishing to receive a box will attend a mandatory Christian 'rally' in which the word of the Lord is proclaimed, in every country where it is legal. Further, a majority of the boxes are distributed in communities that have a resident evangelical Christian pastor who can provide 'follow-up' ministering. This is gift-giving with strings attached."
"These gift filled shoeboxes provide powerful tools the local churches can use to evangelise people in its own community
There was tremendous pressure placed on children who received the shoeboxes (and their families) to convert to Christianity.
I am saddened that you felt as though you were misled at any point. I am saddened that OCC has become a cause over which you feel you must object.
I certainly disagree with you, but in the great tradition of my country (which we stole from yours!) will defend to the death your rights to that opposition.
I do trust that this message finds you well. I also trust that you see that I am not a fire breathing fundamentalist wacko. I never breath fire!! No seriously, I am glad to have this dialogue with you. If I may be so bold, it is my prayer that your family is safe, healthy and happy.
I came across your website about Operation Christmas Child. I worked for a company that did (and still does) a huge push to collect gift shoeboxes from the community and from employees for OCC. In fact, our company served as an OCC collection site.
Because of the position I held in the company, my boss made me go through the training for people working at collection sites. I was appalled by what I heard. A man who had taken part in the shoebox delivery spoke and said that he did not give the children their shoeboxes unless they brought a friend to hear the story of Jesus. Another said that any child who took a shoebox HAD to take a Bible as well. There was tremendous pressure placed on children who received the shoeboxes (and their families) to convert to Christianity.
After hearing that, I was even more appalled when the trainer encouraged us to "downplay" the fundamentalist, evangelical Christian aspect of OCC. (Although we were only supposed to solicit donations from Christians.) She knew very well that not as many people would donate if they were aware that their "gifts" were actually used to bribe children into accepting Bibles and converting to Christianity.
Next, we were all supposed to sign a volunteer agreement for OCC. The agreement stated explicitly that we were Christians working for Christ. As I am not a Christian, I did not sign, even though my boss wasn't very happy with me. I told her that if I signed the form, I would be lying; and if she forced me to sign the form, she would be violating my right to religious freedom.
By the time I left the training, I was so disgusted with the whole program that I flatly refused to take any part in OCC for the rest of the time I worked for that company. Some of the other employees tried to make me feel guilty about not even giving a shoebox, but I replied that my time and money went to programs that did not use bribery and coercion to "help" children.