warning: if you're sensitive to religious talk, this convo might not be for you. we were just jabbering, throwing thoughts out, pain's a genius, but I kind of sound like a dick sometimes. Painthrilla(11:23 AM) : hey if you get on-line hollar....I want to tell you about something else that weird about the Jewish Palastin...thing Painthrilla(11:31 AM) : Like 1st off....what started this thing from the get go.... This All started 3000 years ago right.... Apparantly God had told Abraham (I guess God was in the habit of direct communication back then).. Painthrilla(11:34 AM) : but anyway God told Abraham that even though he was 90 years old and his wife was very old as well that he would give him a son.... Painthrilla(11:39 AM) : So Abraham talks to Sara (his wife) and tells her that God told him he was going to have a son....and they both agree that it ain't gonna happen with Sara because of her age, so Abraham decides he should boink the maid...and the maid gets preg and has a son... Painthrilla(11:42 AM) : But this pisses god off because he told Abraham that he would give him a son and he meant with Sara.....So he tells Abraham that he fucked up big time and he has to cast out this new son and Hagar the mother and furthermore that ALL of their offspring will be condemed to forever roam the desert like donkeys....This son who was bitter about this as he grew up (duh who wouldn't be) started the Palastenians Painthrilla(11:44 AM) : Why God punished them I don't know but he did... now other weird things in revelations and modern time.... Painthrilla(11:46 AM) : Revelations states that the man who brings peace to the middle east will be the antichrist ... that seems really weird to me that God would purposly create wars and dissention amoung a group of people for 3000 years just because abraham fucked up and that the dood who finally comes in and ends this madness is the anitchrist ....fucking weird shit pocket(14:25 PM) : yeah, well.. personally, I think that perhaps "God" from the bible isn't always the same God throughout.. I think people were just (edit).. and I think especially modern people are (edit) to assume it's the same God speaking throughout. cuz that's what they want to believe. "Thou shalt worship no other gods before me." WTF? "I am a jealous god." blah blah blah. Message was sent. User is Offline.The message will be delivered when user goes Online. pocket(14:25 PM) : It never says that "he's" perfect or omnipotent like modern religions would have you believe. NEVER! pocket(14:25 PM) : and if it does, it's just some man who's god happy saying it. pocket(14:26 PM) : the whole concept of "God" being some omnipotent eternal perfect father figure is a fairy tale.. imo pocket(14:26 PM) : I'm not saying I don't believe the bible.. on the contrary, I do!! pocket(14:27 PM) : but my interpretation of it is sooooo completely outside of the norm.. (even though my interpretation makes more sense!) it makes me look like the looney. pocket(14:27 PM) : the whole blind faith thing in modern religion infuriates me. pocket(14:28 PM) : I don't think it's wise to be brainwashed.. even by a superior being. Painthrilla(14:28 PM) : Well we can talk about what my opinions of god and what she looks like later....I was just telling you how all this got started and how wacky it is pocket(14:28 PM) : okay, sounds good.. you just got me rollin.. hahaha Painthrilla(14:28 PM) : LMAO Painthrilla(14:34 PM) : I just can't believe how ALL this started... it's just insane to me and it's factual and not fairy tale....that is how this shit started 3000 fucking years people been killing each other over this....and of course now it's way more than that it's evolved and a horrible way but damn pocket(14:35 PM) : LET'S BE THE ANTICHRIST! Message was sent. User is Offline.The message will be delivered when user goes Online. Painthrilla(14:35 PM) : crazy man.....crazy shit pocket(14:35 PM) : let's stop it.. that would rule! Painthrilla(14:35 PM) : OK...sounds good Painthrilla(14:53 PM) : we could kick ass and create peace all over the world and people would fear us cause they would think we are the antichrist..... pocket(14:55 PM) : hell yeah! and you know what? I'm thinking the "antichrist" is a good thing.. and probably symbolizes the end of organized religion.. it's the church and state that have turned it into a term of fear and evil.. cuz they'd lose all their freakin power pocket(14:56 PM) : to each his own.. i just worship the truth.. in all its TRANCENDENCIES! Painthrilla(14:58 PM) : yup absolutly ...I have thought for a long time that there are hidden mysteries in the bible like that forever.....and reverse truths all through the bible....truths woven between the lines..that takes intelligence and your on thought process to get.....GOD...doesn't want a bunch of thoughtless sheep. pocket(15:00 PM) : yep