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    THE QUESTION ABOUT PRINCIPLE, WHICH RULES REALITY


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  • THE ALL TRUTH 9.04.2008
  • CHAOS & GOD ON THE SAME DISTANCE FROM US
  • KNOWLEDGE
  • EXISTANCE
  • WILL & INDIVIDUALATION
  • SUBJECT & OBJECT VIEW
  • TWO TRYES TO EXPLAIN REALITY
  • WE GOING MORE DEEP, MORE DEEP

  • 1. CHAOS & GOD ON THE SAME DISTANCE FROM US

    For all thing of any kind in the our world have a begining, but for the begining of the world, there isn't and memery in nature. As the all is stand ever, as it's stay and now by the same way. As more we reveled the truth for our genesis ,as more we reveled the truth for sense about the ourselves existance. The answer of this question evry time will stay only on unproved supositions and hypoteses - faith. But isn't this the end of purpose of scientists's seeking ,and all knowledge for the world like whole? The only sure way to develop science are consequents which move us to search the cause ,which have stire up it. Till yestarday the reveled cause have explaining us consequents,today this answer is not satisfactory. We may think that now we are in the golden middle ,but for future this is a extreme. The cause already is appearing like consequent from onother ,more large reason. By discovery this new formula ,theory or explanation the scientist's knowledge become more deep. Consequently the reason which have born the world, never will be reached by the science ,because ever will be searched the cause for the consequentes ,and the searched cause will be a consequent from onother cause. Now ,the belivers accept Lord like absolutely primecause ,but they continied search motives (reasons) ,which can be able to explain logical his actions. The scientist says that the chaos is our genesis but still continied searched it by the faith in determinism-the global nature regulator. With one sheet word. END OF HUMAN'S SEEKING NEVER WILL BE. But if we recaive that God exist, the his allmighty - that he can see forward in future take away the human's free choice. The man is robot, machine. So then there isn't need from reward or punishment. There isn't need from paradaise or hell ,becouse the tree is simple bad, or simple good, it's can't be other. By this way we reject the Bible's God, whch is non logical. But ever if God exist - creator of the world. He is creature on more high level of developing ,but also stipulated by circumstances, by more-higly creature, who stand over him like God. But this for us is very difficult to accept. So if God is free, altough that all show us reverse ,then man is also free ,altough that we see reverse. But God and free human's choice are non compatible together, so we must returned back - in the begining of our thinkins. If the Chaos is begining of our genesis, then we can say that we are free, consequently and repsponsibility for our deeds, but then there isn't a someone in front of whom we can be responsibility. But this by nothing way can explain us a psychelogic's stipulations, and also the "aciedentlies like bad or good - happiness or unhappiness.

    2. KNOWLEDGE

    in ourselves exist strive to confidence. We look for most stable knowledge. Did we can ever find it? By genius Blez.Pascal we ever will be "notable for confidence knowledge and absolytely unknowledge", we ever will be between these two. I mean as 0,9 stays between "0" and "1", as and 0,99 or 0,999 and so.... . But altough that the absolutly knowledge will be never reached by us, i mean "1" is endless far from "0,99999999999999e", we also going close to the truth, like "0,999" is more close to "1" than "0,99" or "0,9". By this meaning the stone's weight is not 1kg, but 1,400kg , excusme i'am wrong, the stone's weight is 1,457kg. When the rough method's study become unsuitable ,then it's changed with more accuratly and precius, which can answer of requirements of time. "The passing of zeros" -that the theory is valid for all circumstances ,is human error. But it can't be escaped if we are not able to see in which circumstances it's not valid. Therefore there isn't a theory ,formula or explanation which can't be changed with a much better. In this way Nyton say gravition is 6,34000e ,Ainstein correct him. He says it's 6,347000e. There isn't two answers for one question. More accurate look will prove it . If you have an object with weight 5,674kg and divide it on two equal parts each by 2,237kg. You can't be sure that in future these will be equal ,becouse you can't sure that object indeed weight 5,674000000...kq. Therefore there is only determinism or only free will. The logical law about "the exclude third" says the same. Ever i say ,acctualy there isn't absolutly golden middle. Of course the things are balanced - it's a relative each & same ,but in determinated limits. "All" demand from the preciusing which we use to measure. By rough seeing the people are same, the religions also, the water is lukewarm - neither hot nor cold. But there is a question, did we can ever reach the end, becouse if there wiil isn't be more requirement of time progress will stop. As the teory is more genaral ,universal ,as it's change with a more general go far in time, becouse the number of facts which we must know also increase<9 ,99 ,999 ,9999 ,and so far>. So the progress move more slowly and slowly, this is fact, it will stop. But if this true then the world have a begining. All that have begining will reached it's end. All that isn't have begining, also isn't have a end. So what we must understand by this that man in the far past was an ant? The same what the human meens in eyes of one ,who is as forward before us in the same relative as man is forward before the ant. When we study the history ,we says to ourselves about these who are living in XIII centuary(for example). They were living in so powerty, the nice is that i live in XX in the begining of XXI cen. Transport, communications a.s.f. We can't present the life without these things. But they also were not able to see our way of living. Therefore they were happy like us. But this we can accept only if the life isn't have begining. I mean human not stay on the most high level of developing, there isn't end of developing.

    3. HAPPINEST A NECESSARY & MEANINGFUL OF HUMAN LIFE-PROGRESS

    As we understand ,the truth for our genesis will remain ever in section of unsuitable ,that is why we only live ,only live ,nothing else .Of course we reached more accurate knowledge ,more high standart of life ,but nothing more than were find ,these on which fundament we building. Progress is fact ,but it not make us more happy. Evryone has strive for more comfortable ,perfectable thing. If he has this ,he is a happy. Appearing of much better ,stop his rejoicing ,because show him a faults of this what he already have or the old compared with other, for which we don't have a time to understand it faults. .We sensative unhappiest if we can't changed our "old" with new by explainational reasons. When we not think about in what powerty we live ,we are happy ,if someone show us it we are already become unhappy. What i mean. American life make more Bulgarians unhappy. But if all countries in the world have the same standart of life like this in Bulgaria ,bulgarians will be not unhappy. Consequetly there isn't need from progress in knowledge ,or standart of life ,becouse it isn't make us more happy than we are. Progress is illusion which have moved the life. But what we will doing without it. Becouse all thing in this "wonderful" world lose first's dazzling flame during the time. Either become part of our "nice dayling", or acustamated -- become old, which must be changed with new - better. the both ways are not satisfactory for us. It is not in human nature idle. Consequently THE LIFE IS NECASSARY. We are born and die ,not by our will ,but because it's so! Maybe the ����� of LIFE IS TO SPEND A TIME TILL THE DEAD! Yes ,we are doing this by diferent ways ,by looking more pleasent way for this ,which not depend from us ,but from our individuality. From another sight the work is most sheet necassary to live, from other sight ,we not pass a possibility to enjoy - to spend the time rejoycing, altough the time is going by this way or another.

    4. WILL & INDIVIDUALITY

    Evryone have sense in himself for a someting uncomfortable. Not so good ,smart ,rich ,wise ,loved and so far. For take away this sense he used all his capabilitys. It is nature for him then to despise all remain little or more. However which need will oriented our life is depend from our individuality. But the same not depend from us - our will ,but by circumstances which are inside and outside stipulated. In proceeding of our development upon our inside stipulation have influence most strong our parents with their education ,and also the social enviroment ,which they choose for our life. These however are stipulated by regional station ,and the age of our existance . As the sun's reflaction rays cause a illusion for the color in object ,as the consequent from outside factors which reflected on our individuality cause a illusion for will. We have opinion that by our will we can direct our attention ,and keep it there ,what evertime we want. But the truth is that if there isn't someting ,which will motived our will there isn't action. The circumstance now and from past ,ruled us ,we are only watcher. Our thinks, and actions depend from this what we have ,and how is organizired in our mind. But this what and when will got there is gived to the case. The nice truth is that we - people are lead by nose during all time of our life by requirements, which evrybody has no chiced them - spirit or flesh requirements. The requrement is necassariest, must be satisfactory . One's have a requirement to abstain from, onother's don't have this need. The third's like me hate all needs, but we don't have a choice. As it become obvius from this was up and this follow down, what ever is man - smart, fool ,rich, poor, handsome ,ugly ,healt ,sick a.s.f this is not his own choice Nobody we must honor or dishonor, by the simple reason that we all egoists but from a different kind of it. For Buddha the suffering was obvius, but for people among him no. Who what ever do it or will do it, what ever and heroes deed commited, he do it this only for himself, with the same motive non more different than motive on one theaf - to shut down his suffering. The action good or bad is different by the power of pressing upon us a different requirement. We don't have a choice, we obeyed to, but we also not obeyed, because this is part of us. The consciousness just wathcing.

    5 .SUBJECT OR OBJECT VIEW

    By subject view people are left alone to themselves ,but by object view our deeds depend all from "strict necessary". What is indeed real fact & what a mirage ,for this moment we can't say ,becouse following the logic of determination ,the subject view is different( object view is examined in ourselves that is again subject) ,becouse we are determinated to be a different.. By idealists it's different becouse we are choose our position. Wandering between these two opinions we can't find the truth. This is fundament station of Imanuel.Kant ,who dived this question on two opposite parts:thesis & antithesis

    THESIS: "The causeality by the law of nature ,not is the only one by which can explain all events on the world. For explanational of the world we must pass one causeality by freedom".

    ANTITHESIS: "There isn't some freedom,but all happens only by laws of nature"

    These are only ones knewed positons for this question. In thesis have accept a begining for our genesis - God (for example) ,and the will which have all humans ,according by God likeness. If we build antithesis, as we take for directional point the thesis (by changing "is" with "not is" and reverse) ,we get the antithesis of Kant. But if the directional point is antithesis, then the the thesis must sound like " all is freedom, THERE ISN'T ANY STIPULATIONS in the world". Eeither thesis, or antithesis are true. In first case, we can't determine what is wrong. In second case the thesis is wrong -> antithesis is right. But in what case is truth? As says Hegel, Kant mix anthithesis in thesis ,that come out as logical uncompatible. becouse as a oppositing of antithesis, the thesis must denied thesis , not contain in itself positive of it. Okey as we say there is only two principles - will & determinism, but as we see in first case there is logic uncompatible. It's close to mind that remain only second. So atention please ,i cry out: THE ONLY ONE ,WHICH RULES THE WORLD IS THE STRICT DETERMINATION !!!!! The science fundament is on faith in determination. The Physic have occupe with physic regulars of nature (enrgy ,mass ,density....) ,psychelogy have occupe with psychic regulars. Consequently the free choice is unscience conception. This is so because THIS IMPULSE MOVE UP, BUT IS NOT MOVED, it's not stipulated from anything ,and there isn't way to study it. Even more "nothing" doesn't exist, void sphere and so far. For it's obvius that even in the limits of any world, it's bounded in our mind like think. The question about the relative of will is the same like the question about relative of idle. Only two different points of view

    1. I am walking in the forest. I see how unmoving reallity (trees ,stones..) begin move by my will. Excatly i understand that i move myself when the objects around me begin move. This is subject view

    2. I stay by the street.Near to me have traveling many trucks ,cars ,which moving is not stipulated by my will-to stay or move. This is object view.

    But even i stay i indeed have a move,of course by earth inertia. Consequently i think for unmoving objects these ,which have moved with my inertia. In this meaning people feel themselves like engine of events ,when they have possible to practiceable their desires. I mean when the circumstaces not prevent them. We have a inside & outside inertia. Inside inertia is our biological determination-our gene. Outside is social enviroment. But these have inertia on regianal station-country ,and the age in which we exist.

    6. TWO TRYES TO EXPLAIN RALLITY

    /A/---. WHAT LEARNING US HOLY BIBLE "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed on his field.But while man slept,his enemy come and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. But when the grain had sprouted and produceda crop ,then the tares also appeared. So the servents said to him, 'Sir did you not sow good seed on your field? How then does it have tares?. He say to them 'An enemy has done this' The servents said to him ,Do you want us then to go and gather them up? But he said ,'No lest while you gather up the tares also uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest i will say to reapers ,"First gather together the tares and bind them in boundles to burn them,but gather the wheat into my barn"... ."He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The fields is the world ,the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom ,but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil ,the harvest is the end of age ,and the reapers are angels. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire ,so it will be at the end of this age" Matew 13:24-30, 37-39 New King James Version Did have for us a price tares? As the evry vegetation and they also photosynthesied ,there ins't have a big different in way of life. BETWEEN PEOPLE ALSO. Indeed this who will enter in paradise have so many merits for his good deeds ,as the wicked have a something common with his bad deeds. But "A good tree can't bear bad fruits ,nor can a bad tree bear a good fruits. "Every tree that does not bear a good fruit is cutdown and thrown into the fire" /Matew 7:18,19/ Is this a justice? We are not allowed to ask this question, becouse we also anihilate tares ,only becouse they are a tares. Of course only there where we're already planted ,or will be plant something. This is and the explanation on all catastrophes like earthquakes ,wars ,disasters,... and "accidently" murders (see Judges 19-21 chpt.// 2 Samuel 24). And so ,our conclusion is that individuality sense of human life by Bible is to show his roots ,from God or Devil. DESTINY-what can we doing? .All remain like work ,family ,enjoys is by the way. How we will showed this ,or which are the fruits of good tree? By Jesus (Matew 25:34-46) in the Great Day all people will stand in front of God ,and "he will separate them one from onother as a shephaerd divides his sheeps from the goats" by their love to neighbor. Thus says also christians for any man from any religion. So what is more importment for God: the love to neighbor or obey before Him(for example about musulmanis).Jesus go in conflict with pharisees just by this reason.

    /B/--- MORE DEEP IN BIBLE The hell for sinners is their justice punishment. Why the cristians so want a hell for unbelivers? Becouse they want REVENGE. Some of them even want this will be eternal. A-a,maybe the scare from hell keep them close to faith. From another side the reward ,which they will recaive cause them to be a good withnesses ,good cristians. By Matew 20:1-6 evrybody will recaive not so as he merit ,but as he deal for job. The parable says that we all dealed on one & same price. Okey did have a sense to work for God like Paul ,John baptist, Christ ,and all kind of it ,"who have borne the burden and the heat of the day". By the same way there isn't big or little sin. As the punishment for murder ,as the punishment for lie. If you kill someone ,you indeed only lied. But the good tree with or without stimulus gives only good fruits. The egoists invent rewards ,becouse they are THESE WHO CHOICED THE GOD ,not He them(look John 15:16). But what merits can have the tree in yourself for that it give a good fruits. Did not all depend from lander. "I am the true vine ,and my father is vinedresser.. I'am the vine ,you are the branches" /John 15:1-6/. The branches depend from vine ,by the same way the vine depend from vinedresser. Jesus is so human like evryone God's son. The "Godman" is fiction: Jesus=100%God+100%human. Like Jesus say for himself. "They aren't not from the world ,just i'am not from the world" /Joan 17:16,6,9,14/. Is this not strange? The cristians ,the God's son & daughters, born and appeared from nothing like evry human ,actually are from heaven like Jesus. By the will unbelivers in hell will "cry and gnashing their teeths" forever - how really cristianity sounds it? "woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed. It would be have good for that man if he had not be born" /Matew 26:24/. But Jesus also says that he don't kept him "that the Scripture must be fullfiled" /John 17:12/. If Exactly these are not more sinner from anothers (Luke 13:2-5). How in the light of will we can explain this "unjustice". We see that the Owner of house have need from vessels for honor & vessels to dishonor /Romans 9:18-23/. Of course the seconds are necessary only till one time. Like for example the Job's servers ,daughters ,sons ,for God are "all that he have". These are a figures like in one game /job 1:12-19/. What say John Baptist for himself "The voice of one crying in wilderness. Prepare the way for the Lord ;Make his paths straigth...AND ALL FLESH SHALL SEE THE SALVATION OF GOD. /Luke 3:4-6/Isaih 40:3-5/. What Paul say for izrael. "And all Izrael will be saved as is written...."/Romans 11:25,26/. It's clear that Paul has think that he will be withness at the end of the world (in another case this verse is nonunderstand - so many izrailtens are dead since from then, without faith in Jesus. "Behold i tell you a mystery:we shall not all asleep ,but we all shall be changed.." /1Korint 15:51/. This verse Paul is adressed only to his generation!! How we can explain this so much sold of cristianity's houses & propertys ,described in Acts 4:32-37;5:1-11. What is the Peter's preach ,which draw so many people (for one day 3000-5000 souls). Let read accuratly chapter 2 on Acts (Acts 2:17-21) "and it shall it come pass IN THE LAST DAYS ,says God. That i will pour out my spirit on all flesh...shall prophecy. I WILL SHOW WONDERS IN HEAVEN.AND SIGNS IN THE EARTH BENEATH:BLOOD & FIRE & VAPOR OF SMOKE.THE SUN SHALL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD.BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT AND AWESOME DAY OF THE LORD" /Joil 2:28-32/. Even more we can see how ,Peter defense himself ,when people begin complained against his talking ,becouse Jesus not coming."knowing this first:that scoffers will come IN THE LAST DAYS, walking according to their own lusts ,and saying where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep ,all things continue as from the begining of the creation" /2 Peter 3:3,4/. This verse again is adressed to his generation ,not to us. By the same way adventists by 1843year have add almost all America to themselves. Evry organization ,which speak about end of the world have or will have the same rezults, if can convinced people in it. The people see the fuss of the world ,absurd of life. For what we live--to the point of dead. What say Jesus to these ,who think that he will free them from romans. "Oh foolish ones and slow of heart to belive in all that the prophets have spoken" /Luke 24:21-25/. Why jewish till today ,yet not belive in Jesus? - becouse the coming of the Saver they connect with the Jewish win on all world. The new lord of the earth will be izrael .This mean and Zacharias-the father of John Baptist ,when he prophecy: "THAT WE SHALL BE SAVED FROM THE OUR ENEMIES ,AND FROM HAND OF ALL WHO HATE US" /Luke 1:71/.Did this happen ,at the time of Jesus or today??

    1. VERSES WHICH IDENTIFED JESUS CHRIST LIKE HUMAN!: Mark 10:18 // Luke 18:19 // John 8:40; 10:34-36; 13:3;15:9; 17:14,23+25 // Psalm 18+Jewish 2:9 // 2 Peter 3:3,4

    2. VERSES WHICH CLEARLY SHOW DETRMINISM Matew 7:16-20; 13:3-30,36-40; 15:12,13 // Mark 4:11,34 // Luke 6:43, 44;8:9-12 // John 6:44,45,64-66; 8:43,44,47; 10:24-28; 11:52; 12:37-40; 15:16; 17:9,14-16; 18:37 // 1Peter 2:6-8 // 1John 4:5 // Romans 9:10-23 // 1Korint 1:27; 2:14 // 2Korint 4:3,4 // Efes 1:4;2:8

    3. VERSES WHICH CAN UNDERSTAND ONLY IN THE SIGHT OF WILL. Matew 10:14,15; 11:20-24; 18:6,7; 26:24 // Mark 9:42; 14:21 // Luke 10:12-14; 11:31,32; 17:1,2; 20:47; 22:22 // John 5:28; 19:11 // Jakob 5:20

    4. VERSES WHICH SHOWS FAITH ON JESUS AND HIS DECIPLES THAT THEY WILL SEE JESUS IN HIS SECOND COMMING Matew 10:23; 16:28; 24:34,35 // Mark 9:1; 13:30,31 // Luke 3:4,6; 9:27; 21:22,23 // John 8:51; 11:26 // 1Peter 1:20 // Romans 11:25,26 // 1Korint 15:51

    /C/---. THEORY OF INCARNATION

    THE BEGINING AND AIM: By the ancient induses's teaching the man have a undied soul which origin from God and have in itself a God qualities but as rudiment. To can wake up this qualities in human, and develop them to thier fill, to the man is given the earth. to exhaust all earth experience: joy and sorrow, the man have need from many, not one life. By the ancient induses's teaching he live many times by different centuary, on different conditions, till the earth expirience make him smart & perfect as God

    remark: I hope that you not be offended from my wonderful english,here i was trying to translate one text from Helena Blawatska.

    GATTERED BY ME: In this our life we undure and rejoice on consequences from our deeds, even our thinkinks from our past incarnations. But still we are on the erth we build our future happiness or unhapiness for our next incarnations, this of course depend by ourselves, we are free, but in the limits of our prison, which we have been stipulated from our past incarnations. This is and the explanation why we have borned here, but not there, etc undemand by us circumstances.

    THE FAULTS: The question is when we have been absolutely free 50% to 50% (from chapter 2 become obvius that golden middle isn't exist) that can choice good or evil, becouse "the begining" opposite to thesis that we etrnal exist. But even more if we pass reverse, then also can't explain by what, ones choiced the good, and other choiced evil. The choice depend from experience. For expirience have need a time. But even this is not sufficient, by what criterion? -'cause it's part from ourselves. Can we say that is possible choice without criterion? "By theirs thinkinks and deeds the live creatures divide themselves by ways of good or evil, AS DEVELOP A STIPULATION TO EVIL OR GOOD". So early or later , it's come - the moment, when we are already condemned. We have been rule the situation somewhere in the past, and thus we have been determinated our way for developing. Is it possible the jump from freedom to fate? The cold water can become hot, but this not show us that it's have been go trough the golden middle. The jump is possible only by external influence. Once more: "NIRVANA" - merge with ABSOLUT. But how 0,99999999e will say that is aready on level, in possibility to merge with ABSOLUT - "1" ,when 0,99999999000000000.. is after 0,9999999999999900000 ..etc. By other words ,when we are most perfect that we have a acess to merge with IT? 0,99999 or 0,99 or 0,9 isn't have the same rihgt. By thus it's obvius that there isn't end this perfecting. But what mean man become more perfect? - Buddha -> suffering. As man becoome more perfect as more he will feel himself as theaf. Theaf of mind, pretty, health, power - magic, money and etc. The suffering is exactly this feeling. We are determinated to be theaf. As the age grow as the responsibilities increase. Eternal bliss - nirvana take away from your mind, only moving forward, forward to the aim, which is ilusion, 'cause it can't be reached. The perfecting exist only with unperfecting. It's necassary to present a less perfecting one step after us.

    7. WE GOING MORE DEEP, MORE DEEP


    The active priciple search the passive, the void is loved by fill, The existing of good have need from the bad, as the light have a need from dark. The current exist only with two contrary poles. Without free will we can't say what is detrmination, without determination we can't show what is free choice/will.

    " THE FULL IS THOSE, WHO CAN'T SEE IN ACCIDENTAL STIPULATION"




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    Did we reach the end, ever? As i say the 0,9999999...... will not reach ever the "1" -ABSOLUT. Yes, that's right but early or later we will reach the top of mauntain, although that the top's diameter will become more small and small: with dimension of palm, nail ,atom....We will be unable to step over so small top. Evry mauntain have a top, becouse if not there isn't moving forward, we just stay on one place -there isn't progress. Which says to me that if we join two simples ,we got a compound. On evry more compound level we lose a percent from possibility to next joint. Becouse start elements are not in number "N" (endless number) but defined. So, the progress will stop! We will reach the end(here i must say that the percent indeed never will be zero but will go to it as 0,000000..........1. After when is passed over the border, the progress will be insignificant, becouse the quality of product will be sufficient satisfactary. EVRY PROGRESS HAVE A BEGINING AND END ,IT'S IMPOSSIBLE ENDLESS EVOLUTION PROCESS. So if exist incarnation. It's have a begining- the creation of the soul. So the soul can't be immortal. More clear will become when we ask for which/who is the reason for appearing of the soul -chaos or purposefull creative activity.

    TO BIBLEQUOTE

    8. THE ALL TRUTH

    i Will answer what happens after death according Old testimony Bible

    Solomon says For what happens to the son of men also happens to the animals /Ecclesiat 3:18/

    So it's close to mind that REINCARNATION is truth in this or the other world. When i asleep often came out from my body. And the world which i visit is a ocean with a hundreds island more of the ruled by their own god. This is the planet which was fluted by water from our God.

    Watch the your pets you think that they are different from you. No they will be human one day. We must concern for our lives, becouse bad pople go to hell where Jehowa judge them (Danial 7:10) After that punish terrible after punish release them as he do with demons and warlocks and witches



    I am Liberal jew who is not born in Israel or His mother or father is jew. I belive in Jehova but i am not from watch tower organisation. I am step hardly on what all ancient prophets says including David Psalms and Proverbs.

    I think that Jewish God is the Devil himself becouse he live in fire. His prophets proclaim to help AND DEFEND poor people He administres justice for the fatherless and loves the stranger giving him foot and clothing/ Deuteromony 10:18/

    The pricipale of living in the world is opposite. Also our God by prohets says this to the kings but the prophest cry out for unjustice. So i think that Allah(not love poor, he love riches) is God of the Planet the Father of Jesus. But the Jehowa is the MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE but live in Hell A fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him ...The court was seated and the books were opened /Daniel 7:10/. And he there judge all bad people who go there For the fire is saying "For wickedness burns like fire" He live in fire so he can persist on fire becouse is most RIGHTEOUSNESS GOD in all WORLD



    Message 5 - posted by gitanaYacova (U10761381) **, Feb 13, 2008
    "Definitely no snake. We believe that humans are born without original sin in the Christian sense of the phrase "original sin" which is one of many reasons that we don't baptize our offspring. The other reasons we don't baptize our offspring is that baptism annhilates Jewish identity."

    The Isaiah says Wash yourselves make your selves clean /Isaisa 1:16/ And Elisha send a messanger to him saying go and wash in to Jordan seven times and your flesh shall be restored to you and you shall be clean 2 KIngs 5:10/ So i think that man who become beliver but in his life commited sins and want to become on clear this is option to present himself clean to the God and after that be justice and rightousness



    Is this a racionaly to colect for yourself like doing sheuch in Arabia not give out to the pour. What you'll say about king SHlomo for who old man saying "Thy father made our yoke heavy, but make thou it somewhat lighter for us"

    7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her /Ralavation 18:7/

    I think is correct to punish by the same way all people who not work but recaive a money and live deliciosly. Maybe they are sons and daughters of riches man like more pop singers actors and other like them which we see on tv evry day. Whick racaive milioons "for nothing"

    But there is many workers like builders, cleanars drivers who work more than 10 hours in Bad countries. Is this correct

    Don't you understand the God of the Planet is really bad. What you'll says if i say you that Maddona is Mary from Magdal and she recaive 120 milions for 2 years. On evry 2 years she publish new album

    Our God want from us be vegeterian(if is possible) this is Evolution on thinking. He promise new world Isa.11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. Isa.65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

    We like children of God of Israel must opposite to Allah and his son Jesus Christ

    Will answer what happens after death according Old testimony Bible

    Solomon says For what happens to the son of men also happens to the animals /Ecclesiat 3:18/

    So it's close to mind that REINCARNATION is truth in this or the other world.

    Watch the your pets you think wrong that they are different from you. No they will be human one day. This is eveolution from little to big animals to human We must concern for our lives, becouse bad pople go to hell where Jehowa judge them (Danial 7:10) After that punish terrible after punish release them but they born in terrible places like Afrika or mauntains of Asia

    4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it. /Jeramaih 18:4/

    There is another punishment which is fury. The CUBE. The movie show how cruel for us but justice for all nation is God. I think this is anhilation of soul if you not came out from there. This is the last punishment for demons, witches warlocks and evil gods



    Okay i think that I am Messiah. I was anoited by the God I am truly David but live in Bulgaria now. God learn me how to came out from body. And meet me with most powerfull man and women which opposite to Jehowa. I defeat Klark Kent(smallville tv series) and two archangels can catch me i escape them by most precious flying. All worlds which not obey to the Devil i by command of Jehowa turn off sun in many worlds becouse they are sinners. I appear on the exact where my archangel says. After that God says to me make the sky black or make a whirlwinds i can do anything in the other worlds. The last thing which i do was to kill 2 bilioners Jeseph and Beniamiah. And their money(140 billions) God give out to the pour these who don't want or have not work in all poor countries. Only the CHArmed ones are more powerfull with the freezing and push me to electrical line to cut off my head. But someone help me i think was prophet Eliah or Elisha

    I'll live only in BUlgaria becouse for me this is the most save place in the World.

    Many rich people from the worlds want to cut my venas or broke my spinal column or hurt my organs but my rightousness protect me I am also Kolia nvknvk and Nicolay Kurbanov and work for the Devil master of the Universe the Jehowa



    Okey there is 2 theorys for the world. In the begining God stay alone i dark and thinking. And taker design to create something And with his gods power create an angels who are close to him. After that he take design to create something new. And create again angels. So he think about it and make design that he must construct something new with the elements of nature not to create. The first creatures was from kind of paramecium and amoeba. After that he create mollusca, insects and arthropods. These who make their duties in life go on more high level like animals, fishs, and birds. After that human. But the human has a different from angel never mind that angels also have heads, hands and legs like the scriptures says "5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour." Psalm 8:6 i think the human doesn't have a chakras. Angels who was born on planet Earth become servants of Jesus or ladys witches, mens warlocks = demons. WHo am i, in this category i am warlock. Becouse these who "fight with love" the angels of Jesus are not real jews

    But what we see when watching the world. These who are bisnessmans(stand a little higher than crowd) are really bad. They not help to weakness they use simple workers to make money. So i think we must look what says Jesus So the second theory is this

    "24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. "Mattew 13:25-30

    There is one live these who belive in Jesus go to paradise these who not in eternaty go to hell

    As says the old testimony 9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least GRAIN fall upon the earth. "/Amos 9:9/

    So the true i think is this God in first create angels. And all we was an angels. But from nowhere come the Father and says to Jehova. Your world is bad. Your angels are satisfed but not happy. They must feel anger, love, passion. So i offer you to divide them on men and women. To see what will happens So Jehova make thus. And from perfect world the world become evil. Someones become want the wife of others and begun killing. Then Jehova create the law "karma" that punish evry sin that all be in order. And people become old as was written "7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass." /Isaiha 40:7/ So was appear the son of the Father Jesus who opposite to law karma and become teaching how to healing people. The Father become Lord of the Planet and with his god abbilities make another animals who not eat grass but each other. More stronger eat more weaker. Jehova not like this world and sink the first world in Noah days. This world exist and now but there live people from kind angels. All planet is a big ocean with thousands islands ruled byt their own gods. All being who was drowned reincarnated to the world planet EARTH to pass his punishment. These who have committed many sins become litlle animals, these who average sins become fishs, birds or animals these who litlle sins become people, and these who was puried from sin stay in the sinked world and live to these days on islands. The principale of the life is the same as in first theory. So creatures began their path of evolution to return to angels. The little animals reincarnated much more than big after that humans till they become angels and help to the world become better place to live - the aim of God of Universe. Jehova take on himself the most important part and go to hell where he judge with justice bad people. The Father and Jesus begun proclaim love among the nations maybe the real word is sex as we see on our tv and 90% of music. He make all his people rich. But the problem of Jehowa was that the punished sinners from hell was reincarnated in poor families. So when no one help them they become bad and again go to hell. So therefore He so speak by prophets to help needy people.





    Is this true that if we belive one time in Jesus and accept him. Never mind what we do(either commit sins) we are saved forever THUS SAYS christian ORGANIZATION "AGAPE"

    So the same question Peter ask Jesus "21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. "

    So i ask if we people must fogive each other to 70x7 how times Our Lord must forgive us Doesn't not we become big sinners

    Okey is it ritheousness in the first parable forgive 28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

    Why his father not forgive to his servant as parable says "25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. 26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: 27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. 28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. 29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. 30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. "

    Is this correct and justice

    30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots(1000 talants), thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.

    So i think it's unjustice and we must forgive but 2 times not more as it was saying in the Bible

    29 Behold God works all these things Twice in fact three times with the man 30 To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living. /Job 33:29-30/

    Twice three times NO MORE





    8 Woe unto us! who shall deliver us out of the hand of THESE MIGHTY GODS? these are the Gods that smote the Egyptians with all the plagues in the wilderness. /1 Samuel 4:8/

    I know that have a 3 mighty Gods who present God of Israel who live in heaven, the Earth and the hell The name of the heaven god is Elohim "34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

    20 And he erected there an altar, and called it El elohe-Israel. Genesis 33:20

    If you make some research about God Elohim you'll see that the sanctuary and all temple of Israeli God is the same as God Horus the god with the EAGLE HEAD

    Must remeber that He sent to Jesus a dove 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a DOVE, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    So this God is also the god of merciful for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil. /Jonah 4:2/ the Jesus is also MERCIFULL

    The second God is the Devil himself who live in fire 18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in FIRE: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly. /Exodus 19:18/

    "27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire: "/Isaiah 30:27/

    "10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. " /Daniel 7:10/

    "18 FOR WICKEDNESS BURNETH AS THE FIRE: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke. /Isaiah 9:18/

    SO the Devil live in hell(first he live on mountain Sinai) and judge there all souls who are dirty of iniquity. Also he make design were the human soul wiill live in his/her next life after punishment

    All ancient prophets serve to Devil from there and their POWERS

    For the last i 'am not sure who is he The last is God of Earth maybe he is Allah i don't know. What we know for Allah is that he want that there is very rich and very poor people MAYBE





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