Note: On this thread, you will notice that our Brother in Christ Romans 16:16 is getting tired of having to respond
to the same queries again and again, i will post the issue where it concerns the nature of Christ, although there's a whole lot more.  CC is another alias of probably fewer than 10 Active iglesia Attackers on the web, there's a hint that he's with the Iglesia ni Soriano .

Concerned Citizen:

Note: All pro inc statements contained in this section have been snipped off for clarifications.

What false accusation did I make? I just given/cited the verses in the bible that proves Jessus' Deity. You don't believe it that's why you accused me of making a false accusation. Could it be that you're the one making such false accussations to the message of Christ and His Apostles? It is very clear in the Bible that Jesus is in the form of God before He took the form of a man. Philippians 2:6-8

CC: His "Begotten" Son to be exact.
Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Hey, that is just your own conclusion. The bible tells that Jesus is also God. Read the verses below:
John 1:1-3,14

I John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

The verse clearly says "glorious appearing of the great God and Saviour Jesus Christ;"

Who will be coming back here and appear in the last day? Is it God the Father? Answer this pls.

Again, another of your conclusions. You seem to be confused and mislead. Tell me, based on the Bible, who is the power and wisdom of God?

Do you also believe what Jesus said in John 10:30 I and my Father are one.?
Do you believe in the Father when He said Jesus is God in Heb. 1:8?
Do you believe on what both God the Father and the Son Jesus said in the above verses?

You might have been brainwashed by the INC Ministers. The flesh or the body is man. Remember that He was in the form of God before He took the form of a man. Philippians 2:6-8

See, it only proves that Jesus is a real God also, being the Son of the Living God as mentioned by Peter in Mathew 16:16. Aslo, Jesus did not sin, and according to the Bible, Eccle 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Thus, this verse also justify Jesus' Deity. Because the bible says, "all have sinned" (Romans 3:23) but Jesus didd not sin, therefore, Jesus' Deity is again being proven by this verse.

Where in the Bible can you find "a Man who will be sent by God to save His Church(Iglesia ni Cristo)"?
Show me also the verse that says Jesus will save the Iglesia ni Cristo? Have you INC's gotten all the right to be saved? How about the ancestors of Mr. Felix Manalo, and those that did not get the chance to hear the teachings of the true gospel of God, they are not members of INC. Do you mean to say that they all will not be saved?

I'm sorry, but I beg to disagree again, and sad to say that you(INC ni Manalo) really don't believe in the real truth. You deny the truth. You only believe in verses that will fit your (INC ni Manalo's) doctrines and they (INC Ministers even wrest other verses to fit their man made doctrines). You disregard the other verses that will directly contradict your(INC's ) doctrines.
 
 

BROTHER ROMANS 16:16

and I will be one with you.
CC,
Your questions have already been answered in this forum and in Bro. Imors forum. You are only repeating them and continue to disregard our responses. Well, my final response would be this post and I will rely everything to God coz I believe I have already shared my faith with conviction.
I have witnessed the stubbornness of our detractors in accepting what is unbiblical and continue to ignore our stand concerning our beliefs. In return, all I can do is pray for your enlightenment for you to be with us in the service of the True and only God taught in the Bible. I would not be able to open your eyes coz only God can do that. May His mercy be with you and to those who continue in their unbelief.
you believe that your show of concern to us by expressing your ideas and contradictory understanding of the Bible make you a concern citizen? I am sorry but
you are still in darkness my friend. Your post is maliciously misinterpreted by you and your so called teachers of light... If you are really convince of your stand, have you considered our points that you will contradict the purpose of God to introduce who He really is? The fact that God is greater than Christ makes Christ not equal with God therefore not God... Search all our answers to your questions in this forum and Bro. Imors. We have made already our rebuttals. If not satisfied, then I'll just leave it to God coz it is Him who calls not me.
I'll give you some points to research.

The Father is the True God (Mine)

1 Jn. 5:20 "and we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us the understanding, that we know HIM(Father) that is true, we are in HIM(Father) who is true,[even] in His(the Father of Christ) son Jesus. This is the True God, and Eternal life." This is in harmony with John 17:1-3 " Knowing the True God(Father) is eternal life."

Heb. 1:8 "God is thy THRONE[symbolizes Power and Authority]" - this is the God refered to by God here not the Son. If you will continue reading, it says God annointed the Son. God does not need any anointment coz He is God eternal. God does not need any attributes coz He is an Infinite God. To go beyond this is rebellion against God. Check Greek Interlinear Bible and Moffat translation.
Christ was made Lord and Christ by God and you cannot reverse that fact. God does not need any Lordship from anybody coz His Lordship and Authority is from everlasting to everlasting and it will not cease nor puase nor can be emptied.
God made Jesus Holy(sanctified) that is why He did not sin. Please do not be blinded by your analogies for to continue to do so is death and condemnation.
Your other questions were already been answered. Search
the responses in this forum if you want to. Or the best thing to do is, go to the nearest Chapel and inquire with the Minister of the Church.

It was a great RIDE with everybody here and Bro. Imor's forum. Our detractors made my Faith more strengthened and Trustworthy of what God can do for us believers. Praise and Glory to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ!!! Hold on tight in our Calling Bro. and Sister!!! Our reward of the Crown of Life is drawing near!!! Lets continue to obey God's Will with love and dedication!!! Lets seek God's help in all our endeavors!!! Lets continues to walk in the newness of life!!! THANKS EVERYONE!!!! PEACE TO YOU ALL!!!!

Your brother in the Lord, Romans 16:16 (also Active member)