This is a reprint of an interview which originally appeared on the former RealityTVFans.com site.

Reality TV's Infidel in the Temple

May 6, 2001

by MissMary - RealityTVfans.com


Ben Alexander, otherwise known as Infidel in the Temple on our message boards, agreed to do an interview with us regarding his feelings about reality TV. As you may be able to tell by his Web name, he is not a fan of the genre. In fact, he�s written a play based loosely on the �Big Brother� premise that portrays what he believes is the dark side of this new TV phenomenon. Many of the following questions were submitted by members of RealityTVfans.com.

RTVF: First the obvious question - What is the number one reason you dislike reality TV?

B.A.: Essentially, I consider it to be an emotional blood sport. It puts groups of participants in artificial conditions expressly designed to bring out the worst in them, designed to induce them to form relationships with each other and get hurt in those relationships through the structure of the game. They're in a situation that makes some bonds of friendship inevitable, because they're in each other's constant company and are sharing in common being in a strange new environment. It's inevitable that some of them will form friendships, take them seriously, and in doing so then be devastated by betrayal. And this is what the producers are packaging for entertainment. I think the people who go on them are making a risky mistake, and I think the people who watch those shows should question the kind of entertainment and the kind of emotional catharsis that they're getting from them.

RTVF: So would you agree that those that go into a show to try to make friends is a really bad idea, as opposed to those that can separate their emotions from playing the game?

B.A.: Well, I think going on one of these shows for any reason is a bad idea, but yes, going on to make friends would be the pits in the judgment department. But I don't think people ever do consciously go on for that motive. I think, rather, that once things get going, the whole circumstance of being in a strange new environment with constant surprises and the lack of contact with anything familiar causes people to feel a sense of common bond with the others who share that circumstance, especially when they're constantly in each other's company and have nobody else to commune with. That's essentially how I think on-air friendships get formed, and with those friendships, expectations that will later be shattered. And of course, some are more susceptible to it than others. If you take the first season of "Big Brother," Brittany was certainly more susceptible than Eddie. By the way, I want you to know, I really appreciate the privilege of being interviewed here. With my candid opinions on these message boards, I wouldn't blame people at all if they wanted to shoo me away like an obnoxious puppy, but you've actually invited me to sit at the table. That is nice of you.

RTVF: It's always nice to see all sides of a situation, I think. Being a reality TV fan is only a part of who people are, as being an anti-reality TV fan is only part of who you are. I think it's important that all of us think about our feelings towards anything we feel strongly about, and at least try to see other's points of view.

Moving on - What type of TV shows do you watch and why?

B.A.: I used to watch TV a lot more than I do now. Essentially, now, I only watch TV when I'm in a living situation where it provides a bonding experience. I lived in a shared apartment for a while, and watched "Coach" and "Murphy Brown" with my roommates. Those were sitcoms that had some intelligence and creativity in the writing. When I lived in a graduate student residence hall, I occasionally went to the TV room for that silly "Seinfeld," but that was more to be sociable, and even then I often got bored and went back to my studies. I'd say, though, I can go for sitcoms that aren't all cheap sexual wisecracks.

RTVF: Is there anything that could make you into a reality TV fan?

B.A.: Well, getting rid of banishment votes would be a start. You know, I never watched "The Mole," but from what little I heard of it, it sounded a little less objectionable because it sounded like, maybe, possibly, it was a well-enough-defined *game* that people could keep from taking the playing of it personally. The trouble with shows like "Big Brother" and "Survivor" is that the game of banishment votes calls for people to inflict personal hurts on each other in the form of "go away, we don't want you." I'd never be a fan of a show that has that.

RTVF: Yes, The Mole was based primarily on getting ousted if you didn't do well on the tests, which required memory and a lot of guess work. It wasn't actually about voting people out. Viewers complained about the editing not showing enough of the player interaction though. They (the producers) plan to expand on this next season. Why do you think the public wants to see more personal interaction than game play?

B.A.: Well, let's see. I think the first factor would be what, in the parlance, is called voyeurism. After that, I think there's a secondary factor, that being: voyeurism. Moving along down the list, I think this is supplemented by something that has come to be known, over the ages, as; can you say it with me? VOYEURISM!

RTVF: Of all the past contestants on all the past reality TV shows, which ten would you choose to put in the Big Brother house?

B.A.: That question, I'm afraid, I'll have to pass along to a reality TV fan. The only ten RTV contestants I even know directly are last year's cast of "Big Brother," and I think they all made a mistake by choosing to go on there. Is there a way of putting Paul Romer, Mark Burnett, and a bunch of their colleagues in a BB house for a few months?

RTVF: There is talk of a celebrity version of Survivor on the horizon. Do you have the feeling that they won't be subjected to quite the same experiences both on camera and off?

B.A.: I would say the stakes of a celebrity "Survivor" would be a lot lower. Professional actors are a lot more attuned to improvisation and role-playing, and they'll approach it as an acting gig more than anything else. It won't be so much of a turning point in their lives, because a lot of it--including being gossiped about mercilessly--will be familiar territory to them. And you can figure they'll be negotiating a king's ransom for their services. They'll also be more guarded about what behavior they let their audience see, because they'll be savvier, and more conscious of their day-to-day image. Oh, and by the way, for all these reasons, I won't be surprised at all if "Celebrity Survivor" flops.

RTVF: Would you consider a contestant having a mental break down on TV right before our eyes good entertainment?

B.A.: I would consider it sick, a hundred percent, big-time, super-deluxe, sick. But I think it comes very close to what a lot of people, and, for that matter, the producers would love to see. Actually, the producers would have mixed feelings about it, because it would be sensational entertainment in the short run and possibly a public relations nightmare for the longer haul. And yet, the way things are going, I think they could probably spin-doctor it into the equivalent of a knee injury in football.

RTVF: Why do you think these shows are so popular right now?

B.A.: I think people thrive on having both heroes and villains. I mean, just look over the message boards for "Survivor" and you see person after person putting real heart and soul into idolizing some of the contestants and demonizing others. I also think there's the same kind of voyeurism, with a touch of sadism, that has people watching a fistfight for entertainment. I think these shows play to all kinds of longings for gratification, but they do so by making cheap commodities out of the people who are on them.

RTVF: Do you think Reality TV will last?

B.A.: Unfortunately, yes, at least for a while. Not all of them equally. I think "Big Brother" in America got so discredited from its first season (for all the wrong reasons) that I think it's going to be hard to redeem it, though unfortunately, the producers will try their damnedest and you can expect to see a real mental health circus next season. It will still sink, but it will take one or two houseguests down with it. Unfortunately. These other shows like "Chains of Love" and "Boot Camp," well, too early to tell.

RTVF: You've heard the argument about people �choosing to go on these shows�, and that they deserve anything they get. What is your response to that?

B.A.: Yes, you're right, I certainly have heard that. Well, for sure, I think the people who go on there are making a serious mistake of judgment. And why they do differs from one to another. I think some go on there thinking, "I like dog-eat-dog worlds as long as I'm one of the dogs that do the eating." Humans are extremely status-conscious, and by very definition, you can't have high status without there being some underdogs for frame of reference. But I don't think everybody who goes on is a thick-skinned, competitive personality who just wants to win, because I don't think the producers would get the drama they want if they didn't choose some people who, even passing the psychological tests, showed some potential for emotional vulnerability. If nobody were emotionally vulnerable, at least 50 percent of the entertainment strategy would be defeated. I might even put it closer to 80 percent.

RTVF: Is there any way to weed out the emotionally vulnerable and still have a good show? By good, I mean one with the popularity to come back again and again.

B.A.: I have my doubts as to whether a show with a full cast of thick-skins would sell. I certainly don't get the impression that it's what the producers are going for. I mean, paradoxically, if everybody cares about winning and nothing else, what will they have to fight about? What will they have to blame each other for? It's when Person A was expecting X from Person B and gets Y instead that you get drama, because the key element of drama is conflict. You only have conflict when you have people who are about something emotionally. So in a roundabout way, I guess I'm saying, I would expect the producers to be afraid to screen out emotionally vulnerable people, even though of course they do screen out those whom the psychological tests consider unstable.

RTVF: What was the first reality show that you watched that horrified you? Any particular episode?

B.A.: I was actually horrified by an article I read in the New York Times last spring explaining the whole concept. Among other things, I learned here that the first person voted off the original "Survivor" in Sweden had committed suicide. The sickness and danger of it just seemed so obvious to me. I did watch some "Big Brother" in late August, to research my play "Jocelyn." One of my first memories from there is the time on the live broadcast when, as a prize for winning a contest, they gave aspiring movie star Jamie the choice of a two-minute visit with her mother or a big casting director. She chose the casting director, of course, and the message boards were abuzz with how evil she was for "choosing career over family," but to me it was just so obviously a cheap trick by producers to play cat-and-mouse with her to stir up some audience response. It was like, Jamie took the bait and then audience members took the bait.

RTVF: If you could speak directly to a producer of a reality show, what would you say?

B.A.: Excuse me, Sir, could you hold still for a...POW!

Seriously, when I was writing "Jocelyn," I was reading the interviews with Paul Romer of "Big Brother" on the Web, and I had moments of imagining he was in the room tapping me on the shoulder, and I'd say, "Get your hands off me, you son of a bitch." I don't like these guys.

RTVF: Do you think the shows should be banned?

B.A.: I have to say that the lesser of two evils is letting them be legal. Banning anything sets dangerous precedents, and our political culture depends heavily on a free press and free artistic expression, for both entertainment and much needed criticism of government and society. It's a matter of saying to a producer, "You have the legal right, and I'll defend your legal right, but you're a bastard for exercising that right."

RTVF: What do you think of the people that watch and enjoy them?

B.A.: Good question. Well, I'm certainly on friendly terms with lots of people who do so, and I'm even inviting them to my play. I'm not about to call them bad people. I do, however, hold the opinion that they should think carefully about what they're doing, because I think they're keeping something alive that would be better off dying. And even more to the point than that, they should look carefully at the way they treat contestants. I mean, through Internet message boards and other media, people who in the supermarket check-out line would never dream of shouting "Hey look, there's the woman who married her stepson, what a whore!" seem to have no self-restraint about doing exactly the same thing in the company of millions. Maybe I'm wrong, but it tells me that they feel exempt from some of the basic standards of civility and decency when they're in the company of millions talking about celebrities. They lose sight of the fact that celebrities are people with feelings, just as much as their neighbor in the checkout line is a person with feelings. It's dehumanization; it's commodification: A person gets transformed into an object that it's okay to punch and kick and jab for pleasure.

This interview is continued at Part Two.
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