HecateMistress:How are you a princess? Is your full name Torinda?
This *is* Tori, right? This is Jalessa. I have a question for you.
PrincessTorinda: Jalessa?  Are you still there?
HecateMistress: Yes, I'm here. I got cut off for a second. Oopsy.
PrincessTorinda: That's okay.  Did you get my other messages?
HecateMistress: No, I didn't get anything.
PrincessTorinda:Okay.  Well, I sent a ton. Should resend them all?  Hey--doesn't Moses write to you?
HecateMistress: I told you I didn't get any messages. I wasn't lying. Yes, resend them- I want to read them.
And yes, Moses does write to me.
PrincessTorinda: Okay.  Hold on a little bit while I resend them, okay?  I'm not really good at this
computer stuff.
HecateMistress:Sure. I gotcha.
PrincessTorinda:Here they come.
PrincessTorinda:PrincessTorinda: Oh--hey.
PrincessTorinda: Yeah, this is Tori.  Sorry that didn't answer sooner.  I have the sound turned
off an I didn't hear your IM come in. :-)
PrincessTorinda: Should I answer those questions up there?  This is really cool.  A New Jersey
person! :-)
PrincessTorinda: What are you doing on at 4 am?
PrincessTorinda: I'm a Princess because my mom is the Queen of the Moon.  Doesn't that make sense?
PrincessTorinda:My full name is Torinda Lucinda.  :-P
PrincessTorinda:Jalessa?  Are you still there?
HecateMistress: Ok, so I totally didn't get any of those.
PrincessTorinda:You mean you didn't understand them or they didn't come through?
HecateMistress: I'm always on at 4am. Well, notalways. And Mari is asleep and she doesn't know I'm
using her laptop.
And yes, the Moon thing makes sense.
I *understood* them, they just never got through.
HecateMistress: Anyway, I totally need to ask you something.
PrincessTorinda: Well, Blaine's asleep and he doesn't know I'm using his laptop, so it's all good. :-)
PrincessTorinda:Will Mari care?
HecateMistress: No, I don't think so. She let's us use it. Besides it's her own fault for leaving it on.
PrincessTorinda: Okay . . . ask.
HecateMistress:Ok, what is up with your mom-- why does she want Datura's e-mail address??
PrincessTorinda: Oh, that . . .
PrincessTorinda: I thought that he was single?
HecateMistress: Well, maybe he is. Or maybe he isn't. But that doesn't answer the question.
PrincessTorinda:We were joking about it at my Birthday a few weeks ago.  Mom and I just thought
that Datura was really interesting, and I said she should go to the formal in NJ with him.  So . . . I
guess she took my joking seriously and asked for the address.
HecateMistress: That's all? I can live with that.
PrincessTorinda:Yeah, that's it.  What did you think?
HecateMistress: Why does she think he's interesting? Why why?
HecateMistress: I don't know what I thought.
HecateMistress: I thought there was something hewasn't telling me.
PrincessTorinda: I really don't remember how he came up . . . we were just giggling a little bit about
things in general, and somehow Datura came up, and I said I should set Mom up with him.
HecateMistress: How old is your mom? Datura's only 24. He's a baby.
PrincessTorinda: Why is he interesting?  He just is. All people are, Datura just a little more so than other.
He just sends out extremely interesting vibes.
PrincessTorinda:My mom is 35.
HecateMistress: He does, doesn't he?
PrincessTorinda:Definitely. :-)
HecateMistress: That's like.. a humongous age difference.
PrincessTorinda: Oh, and hey--I'm really sorry if it put you on edge at all.  I know what that's like. Really.
HecateMistress: I just.. I just.. I don't know. Ididn't know what to think.
PrincessTorinda: Yeah, I guess.  That sort of thing doesn't bother my mom.  Once I dated a guy who
was twelve years older than me.  He was closer to my mom's age than he was to mine.
PrincessTorinda: You know, if it bothers you, my mom would totally drop it.  He hasn't e-mailed her
privately or anything that I know of, and she was just in it for kicks.  I don't want anything in the
way of your relationship with him.
HecateMistress: The way you get a guy is the way you lose a guy, that sort of thing. . . .
Hm, I don't know if that would bother me. The biggest age difference between a guy I was dating was 2
years. But we weren't even really dating anyway. Just sleeping together.
But he gave her his e-mail address. I think he thinks it's about her moon mission or whatever.
PrincessTorinda:Oh, I think I get that . . . I've never gotten a guy that way . . .
HecateMistress: What way?
PrincessTorinda: I've never had a "just sleeping together" relationship . . . but I've slept with
everyone I've seriously dated.
PrincessTorinda:And if my mom *did* e-mail him, I'm sure the Moon mission would get in there somehow. :P
HecateMistress:Wish I could say the same.
Datura would be interested in that....
PrincessTorinda: Well ... were you implying ... like if you get a guy because he cheated on his
girlfriend, you'll probably lose him because he cheated on you?
PrincessTorinda:About the "just sleeping together" thing?
HecateMistress:You're a good imply-y getter person.
HecateMistress: About sleeping with every guy in a serious relationship. That.
PrincessTorinda: If you want my mom to stay away from Datura, I probably won't mention that he'd be
interested in the Moon Mission, or she'd be totally hooked. ;-)
PrincessTorinda: Well, good--about the imply-y thing.I didn't want to be making presumptions that were
wrong.  How in the world do you spell presumptions? Is that right?
HecateMistress: You know what? I don't care what he does. I just decided.
HecateMistress: I have no idea. I'm no Datura..
HecateMistress: looks right to me, though.
PrincessTorinda: You know what?  I decide that all the time.  And I keep realizing I'm fooling myself
and I really *do* care.
HecateMistress: What are you trying to say? That I don't really mean that?
PrincessTorinda:No.  Just that usually when I say that, I don't.
HecateMistress:Hm.
PrincessTorinda: But maybe you do.
HecateMistress:Maybe I do. Not like it matters. Well, it does. I don't know.
PrincessTorinda: But you don't have to worry what he's
going to do, not with my mom, anyway.  I can put a stop to it.
PrincessTorinda:I know exactly what you were saying up there.
PrincessTorinda: I could have said the exact same words.
HecateMistress: Just tell her he's a transexual, maybe that will scare her off.
HecateMistress: That's pretty good-- especially since *I* don't even know what I was saying.
PrincessTorinda: lol.  I doubt it.  My mom has been in both straight and lesbian relationships and will
try everything in between.
HecateMistress: Damn.
PrincessTorinda: Well, when I say that I don't know either . . . so I know that not knowing feeling.
This is getting confusing.
HecateMistress: Tell me about it.
PrincessTorinda:I'll tell her not to.  It's okay. Really.
PrincessTorinda:It's not like she's in love with him.
HecateMistress: I would really really like that. Still, I don't want to prevent Datura from doing
anything. But, yes, I would really really like that.
PrincessTorinda: Consider it done, Jalessa.  I'll talk to my mom as soon as I get home tomorrow about it.
PrincessTorinda:Datura can do his thing, but I'll take care of my mom's end.
HecateMistress: Where are you?
PrincessTorinda:In a hotel room.
HecateMistress:Ok.
PrincessTorinda:The Starlight  Hotel and Plaza, actually. Have you ever been here?  This place is so cool.
HecateMistress: Never heard of it.
HecateMistress:Where is it?
PrincessTorinda:It's in Manhattan, and there's like tons of famous people who stay here.
PrincessTorinda:We haven't seen any, but rumor has it they're here.  It's really expensive too.  Oh,
it'sfun!  And the beds are *so* huge and bouncy!
HecateMistress:I've actually never even been to Manhattan.
HecateMistress: Huge and bouncy beds are good. :-)
PrincessTorinda: I grew up in Queens, so I've been around the area forever.  Manhattan . . . I like
the culture, but . . . I don't know. I guess I could take it or leave it.
PrincessTorinda: Yes, they are! :-)
PrincessTorinda:Hey, how old are you?  25?
HecateMistress:I grew up in NJ with an overbearing mother who never let me out of her sight, and was
forbidden to ever leave. When I was old enough to move out I moved to MA.
Yup, I'm 25. You?
PrincessTorinda:Nineteen.
HecateMistress: That's a good age. I mean, I liked it.
PrincessTorinda:Oh . . . overbearing mothers. That would be so totally strange.  Were you close
though? I mean, in spite of it?
HecateMistress:Nope.
PrincessTorinda: So far it's been very confusing, but I can't say I dislike it.
PrincessTorinda:I'm sorry. :-(
PrincessTorinda: So what did you like about it?
HecateMistress: Don't be sorry, I'm not.
Well, I lost my virginity when I was 19. And . . that's about it. :P
PrincessTorinda: Oh; I've gotten that covered, so . . .
HecateMistress:Then there's not much else, I guess.
PrincessTorinda: I can't help it.  People are always telling me that.  "It's not your fault, don't be sorry
about it."  Especially Blaine.  But I can't help what I feel.  I let myself feel whatever I feel, and
now I feel sorry.
PrincessTorinda:No, there's *tons* of stuff left to do.
HecateMistress:Ok, feel sorry. I was just letting you know that it wasn't necessary.
PrincessTorinda:Was it someone special?  I mean, that you lost your virginity to.
HecateMistress:Tons of stuff? Like what?
PrincessTorinda:I don't think I care all that much about what's "necessary" anyway.
HecateMistress:Yes. . . he was. He died. Killed himself.
HecateMistress:Well then.
PrincessTorinda:Well, there are a lot of places I want to see.  And . . . I just.  I don't know.  I
just love being alive.
PrincessTorinda:I'm sorry.  I dated a guy like that. He's still living, but . . . I was always afraid
it would come to that.
HecateMistress: Eh, I guess I don't really care about those things.
PrincessTorinda:About seeing places and being alive?
HecateMistress: Both actually.
PrincessTorinda: But you are alive, so you might as well *be* alive.
HecateMistress: True.
HecateMistress: At least for the next five years anyway.
PrincessTorinda: All right.  I'm glad we have that settled. :-)
PrincessTorinda:What do you mean by that?
HecateMistress: Well, less than five. Because I'm going to kill myself the night before my
thirtieth birthday. Because 30 is such an awful number, don't you think? I don't ever want to be *that* old.
PrincessTorinda:No!
PrincessTorinda: 30 is a beautiful number.  It has the number three in it.
PrincessTorinda: And that's not old unless you let it be old, Jalessa.  My mom is 35, and she's
definitely not old.
HecateMistress: lol. I've had this planned for years.
What's so great about the number three?
HecateMistress: But.. the way the number looks, it's so ugly. a 3 and a 0. That's like three decades. Ew.
PrincessTorinda:I just like it.  Blaine asked me that exact same question last night (because I got
excited about being in room 333) and I think it's because it has religious significance in so many cultures.
In Wicca there's the three faces of the Goddess, in Christianity there's the trinity, etc.
PrincessTorinda: You have to live through thirty so you can get to 33!
HecateMistress: Maybe I'll change it to the night before my 34th birthday. But maybe not. Because I
want to die young, in my twenties.
PrincessTorinda:But if you die young, and bring it on yourself, you're cheating yourself out of a
*lot*. Because you haven't even lived half of your potential, and that's just really sad.
HecateMistress: I *really* don't need to hear this, I get enough of it from Datura.
PrincessTorinda: I'm not trying to preach.  I just . . . I don't know.  I just think it's sad that
anyone wouldn't want to experience life to the very last breath.
PrincessTorinda: Gods and Goddesses, I *hope* I didn't sound preachy.  That's the last thing in the
world I want to be.  I just feel strongly about this.
HecateMistress:I think that's *exactly* what I'd be doing. I don't want to get old and crusty and not
be able to *do* anything anymore. And I figured out a way to stop it *before* any of that happens.
HecateMistress: You don't really sound that preachy.... I mean, I've heard preachier.
PrincessTorinda:But what if the greatest moment of your life is going to occur when you're 75?
HecateMistress: Then it's not worth it! I don't want to have grey hair and wrinkles when something great
finally happens.
PrincessTorinda:Grey hair and wrinkles can be as beautiful as smooth skin and . . . (whatever
color hair you have right now)
HecateMistress:It's black.
PrincessTorinda:I hear women don't reach their sexual peak until sometime in their late thirties.  You
don't want to miss that, do you?
HecateMistress: And I guess it could be. . . but oh well.
PrincessTorinda:Okay, fill in that blank, then.:P
HecateMistress:You know . . . I hadn't thought of that...
PrincessTorinda:I for one am looking forward to it. ;-)
HecateMistress::D
PrincessTorinda:But you have to do it with younger men, because men are at their sexual peak at age 19. :P
HecateMistress:Doesn't bother me.
PrincessTorinda:Younger men, you mean?
HecateMistress:But I wouldn't mind getting to the men in my life now, I've been hanging out with so
many virgins lately. This is not like me.
Yes, younger men.
PrincessTorinda: Tell me about it. I was the one who followed Moses around for six months with nothing
more than three kisses.
PrincessTorinda: (well, at least we ended on a good number!)
PrincessTorinda:Seriously, though . . . abstinence can be good.  It builds character.  Tests your
limits, strengthens the spirit.
HecateMistress: That's only an average of 1 kiss every two months!
Eh, limits, spirits, my ass.
PrincessTorinda:Yeah . . . and one of those hardly even counted.  But what can I say?  It was Moses
and I love him anyway.
HecateMistress:From what I know about him 3 kisses sounds like a hell of a lot anyway. You got
pretty lucky!
PrincessTorinda: Well then, if that's the way you feel. . . you gotta be free to follow your yearnings,
I guess.  Oh, "Follow Your Bliss".  That's a quote by Joseph Campbell.  I love it.
PrincessTorinda: Oh, I know I did. :-)  No one else in the SC can say as much, after all.
HecateMistress: You deserve a plaque or something.
PrincessTorinda:And they were worth it.  That boy's a good kisser.
PrincessTorinda: lol.  What would it say?
HecateMistress:Does it make you wonder if he's even better in bed?
Ummmmm... It would say, "I kissed Moses more times than you." It's the 'I kisses Moses award.'
PrincessTorinda: I like that. :-)
PrincessTorinda:You wouldn't *believe* how many times I wondered that.
HecateMistress:You're probably right.
PrincessTorinda:We used to go on these long walks in the woods, right, and I always had this fantasy about
having sex there, on the moss and with nature all around . . . Mmmm.
PrincessTorinda:I've never had sex outside, and I've always wanted to.  Well, once in a tent, if that counts.
HecateMistress:Sounds yummy. He's misses out on a lot with that no sex until marriage thing he's got going.
I've never had sex outside either. Not that I remember anyway. I think a tent counts.
PrincessTorinda: And I thought if he's going to be monogomous when he's married, or worse yet,
celibate, he should get his kicks in now . . . but you know. It's Moses.  And I respect that.
PrincessTorinda: Yeah, I know.  But then . . . how would I know what it's like to wait for marriage?
I'm missing something there.  So . . . it evens out, I guess.  And I go through these wierd periods of
wanting to be a virgin again, so maybe he does know what he's doing.
HecateMistress:That is *so* true. But, yeah, it takes all kinds and all that dross. But, why does it
have to take Moses? lol. I don't know why I sound like I'm upset. I just feel bad for people who don't have sex.
HecateMistress:Hmm.. that's a little too deep for me.
PrincessTorinda:Maybe it wasn't deep.  Maybe it didn't make sense.  It's almost 5 am, after all. :P
PrincessTorinda:Yeah, I feel really bad for people who go through their entire lives never having
sex, because they're missing a huge part of what it means to be human.  But I don't like it when people
just throw sex around either, or when they use it as a weapon.
HecateMistress: Still sounded a little complex, even if it were the middle of the afternoon.
PrincessTorinda:The sun is going to be rising soon. :-)  I might as well stay up for that.
HecateMistress: Yeah...
PrincessTorinda:What were the elipses about?
HecateMistress:Nothing, just had weird flashbacks of watching the sunrise in weird moods.
PrincessTorinda:Flashbacks.  Don't they just come at the most lovely times?
HecateMistress: lol. Oh yes.
PrincessTorinda: So, are you flashing back now?
HecateMistress:Not anymore. I don't know what I was just doing. I think I blanked out for a second there.
PrincessTorinda:Are you okay?
HecateMistress: Oh, yeah, fine fine. It happens.
PrincessTorinda: It does, doesn't it?  Hm.
PrincessTorinda: Have you ever met someone who totally reminds you of someone else?  And had trouble
separating the two?
HecateMistress: I'm just listening to this SC demo tape, and one of Datura's songs is on-- and it
drives me *nuts* that I never know what he's singing about....
Hmmmm... a lil' bit.
PrincessTorinda: You know what I hate?  When I think a song is about me, but I'm  not *sure*, and I'm afraid
to take it like it is because maybe I'm just giving myself an ego stroke and will be knocked right down again . . .
PrincessTorinda: and I don't like getting knocked down.
PrincessTorinda:(if it makes you feel any better, I never know what Datura is singing about either! ;-)
HecateMistress:Yes!! I know exactly what you mean. But I know this song isn't about me...
HecateMistress:Actually, it does make me feel better.
HecateMistress: I sometimes wonder if HE knows what he's singing about.
PrincessTorinda:Okay, good. :-)
PrincessTorinda: Maybe he writes songs about his dreams.
HecateMistress:Maybe. Maybe one day I'll actually ask.
PrincessTorinda: Why not?
HecateMistress: I'd be afraid of the answer. Any answer.
PrincessTorinda:You know what I love?  All men look like little boys when they're asleep.
PrincessTorinda:lol.
PrincessTorinda: It just makes you want to crawl over them and smooth their hair back and bring them a
glass of water . . .
HecateMistress:That's true.. no matter how un-little boy-ish they are when they're awake.
HecateMistress: Eh, I wouldn't go that far.
PrincessTorinda: Yeah, and that's what makes it even better.  When someone who isn't little boyish *looks*
like a little boy, and you realize that under everything, there's still a little boy there. It's precious.  Priceless.
PrincessTorinda: Well, that glass of water bit was a little far. But I meant the other two.
HecateMistress: Yes-- but why is the little boy only there when he's asleep??
PrincessTorinda:I think he's there all the time. They just keep him hidden.
HecateMistress:Yeah, and if he'd drink the glass of water, he'd have to be awake, and no more little boy.
PrincessTorinda:The little boy is always there.
PrincessTorinda: Yeah, exactly. :-)
HecateMistress:Maybe you're right.
PrincessTorinda: I read this poem once in one of those Chicken Soup books, and it was about how even
though you're a certain age, you never stopped being the other ages.  You just accumulated more on top of
them. So just because I'm nineteen doesn't mean I'm not seven and eleven and sixteen.  I believe that.
HecateMistress:I don't know if I get that. Maybe I'd have to read it first.
PrincessTorinda: If I could remember what book it was in, I'd reference it . . . but I don't.  It might
have been the Teenage Soul one.
HecateMistress: Maybe on my next birthday I'll start going backwards, take me longer to get to thirty then.
Well, I don't have any Chicken Soup books, so it doesn't really matter. Maybe someone here does.
PrincessTorinda:But it basically boils down to, even though you're 25 year old Jalessa, 8-year old
Jalessa and 12 year old Jalessa and 20 year old Jalessa are still integral parts of who you are.  Like . . .
hm. You don't lose them by gaining another year.  You justadd one more on.
PrincessTorinda: Backwards . . . maybe you're possessed. ;-)
PrincessTorinda: (you know I don't mean that, right? I don't believe in it, even)
HecateMistress:I think I get it now.
Posessed?
HecateMistress: Well, I don't even know what you *mean* let alone if you meant it...
PrincessTorinda:Didn't you read Blaine's post on the Mailing List about possessed kids?
HecateMistress: I vaguely remember something like that.
PrincessTorinda:Your going backwards comment just reminded me of that.  That's all.  It wasn't a big deal.
HecateMistress:Ok.
PrincessTorinda:I'm glad we got to talk.  I was just saying I never really get to interact with you NJ people. :-)
HecateMistress: Well, I'm only one NJ person. You should interact with a few more, we're really
very cool. And you interact with NJ people on the mailing list, right?
HecateMistress: I think I interact with you other people well enough. I write to Moses and to Meghan.
PrincessTorinda:Yeah, but I don't really feel like I know you guys very well.  The ML is the extent of
it, really.  But then, there aren't all that many people *here* that I interact with either, so . . .
PrincessTorinda: That's cool.
HecateMistress: I e-mailed Heaven a few times too, but ... that didn't turn out very well.
PrincessTorinda:Oh Jeez . . . don't get me started on Heaven.
HecateMistress: So then it's pretty even then.
HecateMistress: Um.. ok .. She doesn't seem like she's going to win the world's nicest person award
anytime soon.
PrincessTorinda:I try so hard with her.  I really do. But she treats me like crap.  And I have nothing
against that if I *deserve* to be treated like crap. But I've never done anything to her to make me
deserve that.
PrincessTorinda: She won't win the "I kissed Moses more than you award" either! ;-)  Oh, that was
really mean.  Stop it, Tori.
HecateMistress: She seems like a loser to me. But I never tried with her, so I don't really care. I
just sent her this e-mail one day, and I got this really bitchy response.
lol. That's true-- you're the only one who has that award!
PrincessTorinda:I don't think she's a loser. She just takes her issues out on other people.  And I
feel bad for her and all, and I think deep down she's a really good person.  I just don't know why she
has to take her issues out on other people.
PrincessTorinda: Hmm. I just repeated myself. Maybe I should get some sleep . . .
HecateMistress: I don't really think she's a loser either. I don't know why I said it. I just think
she puts more effort into being mean than in being nice.
HecateMistress: Sleep is always good.
PrincessTorinda: I don't think I'll fall asleep though . . . I don't know whether I should bother.
Blaine's computer says it's 5:30, and I was going to be up at like 7:00, so should I even bother?
HecateMistress: For an hour and a half? Nah.
HecateMistress: I don't even know what day of the week it is. . .
PrincessTorinda:I think it's . . . Tuesday?
HecateMistress: Who knows? lol.
PrincessTorinda:I could wake Blaine up and ask him, but I'd lose the little boy then.  It's not worth it. :P
HecateMistress: No, it isn't. I rarely know what day it is anyway.
HecateMistress:It's never worth it to lose the little boy.
HecateMistress: But you're gonna lose him sometime.
PrincessTorinda:What do you mean?  That he's going to wake up?
HecateMistress:Yeah.
PrincessTorinda: Or were you getting at something more profound?
HecateMistress: No, no.
PrincessTorinda:He'll probably be up in like half an hour or so, actually.
PrincessTorinda: Bye-bye, little boy. :-(
HecateMistress:Take pictures!
PrincessTorinda: lol.
PrincessTorinda:I didn't bring my camera with, but he has one out in the car.  Hmmm.
PrincessTorinda: The flash would wake him up,but it would be an interesting expression to see, wouldn't it?
HecateMistress: lol. I think so.
PrincessTorinda:I could draw him.
HecateMistress: I was thinking that.
HecateMistress: What were you getting at before when you asked about that two different people thing?
You never finished that. Or maybe you didn't want to..
PrincessTorinda: Do you draw?
HecateMistress: No. That's why I didn't mention it.
PrincessTorinda:Flashbacks.  Blaine reminds me of someone I used to know.
PrincessTorinda:That's what brought it to mind.
HecateMistress:Oh, ok. I was just wondering.
PrincessTorinda: Well, there you have it then.
HecateMistress:There I do. :-) Or.. that I do. Whatever.
PrincessTorinda: :-)
PrincessTorinda:Hey--where are you as you stay-up-late-talking-to-Tori-on-this-fine-evening?
HecateMistress: If I understand that question correctly.. I'm laying on the floor of the SC
lounge. And it's morning, not evening. :-)
PrincessTorinda:Ah, gotta love the lounge. :-)
PrincessTorinda:I slept in the lounge last night.  Or the night before I was in this hotel.  Whatever.
PrincessTorinda: And you understood the question correctly.  And good morning, by the way! ;-)
HecateMistress:The lounge is nice when no one else is in it. :-) Why did you sleep in the lounge?
HecateMistress: Good morning. :-)
PrincessTorinda: I slept in the lounge because we were watching movies there, and they . . . Blaine
asked me to stay with him, so I did.
HecateMistress: Makes sense to me.
PrincessTorinda:Well, yeah, it made sense to me too. :-)  Hey--what's your favorite movie?
HecateMistress: Hmm... Maybe "The Wizard of Oz." Or "Ghost." I never really thought about it.
Xena made us watch this *really* stupid movie a few nights ago, "The Silence of the Hams" that sucked major ass.
Anyway... what about you?
PrincessTorinda: "The Wizard of Oz".  Ahhh!  That is just way too cool.  That is one of my favorite
movies EVER.
HecateMistress: Really? I've always liked it.
PrincessTorinda:And "Ghost" is a good one too. I haven't seen that in a long time, though.  I love love
love movies, so I might even give that crazy Silence of the Hams a chance.  Was it a spoof on Silence of
the Lambs or what?
PrincessTorinda:I've always LOVED it.  My very first memory is of watching that movie while my mom
brushed my hair. :-)
HecateMistress: I saw the last ten minutes of "Ghost" just the other day, and I *still* cried. :P
"The Silence of the Hams" is based on "Silence of the Lambs" and "Psycho" and one other horror flick I
can't seem to remember. But the humor was just way to cheesy for me.
When I was younger and I did something wrong my 'punishment' was that I wouldn't be allowed to
watch "The Wizard of Oz" for a specified amount of time.
PrincessTorinda:That's torture!
HecateMistress: I know! I hated it! It was worse than a spanking!
PrincessTorinda: I never cried on Ghost.  I don't cry on a lot of movies.  Moses *always* cries during movies.
PrincessTorinda: you bet it would be!  That's almost cruel and unusual.
HecateMistress:I cry very randomly, I think.
Yeah, but at least it got me to be a good kid. For the most part.
PrincessTorinda: I cry when I'm getting my period.
HecateMistress:Because you're so sad about it?
PrincessTorinda: That would probably get me to be a good kid too. :P
PrincessTorinda:No, I like getting my period. It just heightens my emotions, so if something
happens that usually would just mildly bother me, it sets me off.  Like once I ended up bawling because Moses
never writes any songs about me, which was totally lame.
HecateMistress:That's not lame. I think I'd cry, period or not, if I found out that those songs
that Datura writes aren't about me. That's why I think I'm better off not knowing.
PrincessTorinda:Yeah . . . I understand that . . .
HecateMistress: So, you know, I'll just pretend.
PrincessTorinda:But It's not like he's writing love songs about her.  Well, not romantic love songs,
anyway.  And he does write about me once in a while. And it never bothered me until *that* day . . .
and it was my period talking.
HecateMistress:It can't hurt, right?
PrincessTorinda:You probably aren't pretending, though.
HecateMistress:Her who?
PrincessTorinda:Er . . .
PrincessTorinda: Oh.  Heaven.
HecateMistress: I wondered who his songs were about.
HecateMistress:What was the Er for?
PrincessTorinda:Well, they're either about Heaven or God.
HecateMistress:Are we talking about Heaven the person here?
PrincessTorinda: No, he has a few about me too, but he hasn't put them on any compilations.  He wrote
this *super* cool song about me called "Shelter From the Storm".
PrincessTorinda:Oh, yeah, we are.
PrincessTorinda:The Er was because I wasn't sure what to say that, "Can't hurt to pretend" thing.
HecateMistress:Just making sure. :P
HecateMistress: Why doesn't he put any of those songs on compilations? That isn't fair.
PrincessTorinda:No kidding@!
PrincessTorinda:Stupid at.
HecateMistress: lol
PrincessTorinda:It just wanted some attention, I guess.  Here you go.
PrincessTorinda: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
PrincessTorinda: Make it happy.  Make it feel loved.
HecateMistress: lol lol I think I'm getting slap-happy..
PrincessTorinda: I think I am too.
PrincessTorinda:I'm laughing really hard over here.
HecateMistress: Probably that lack of sleep thing..
PrincessTorinda: Blaine's alarm will go off any minute if I don't wake  him up first.
PrincessTorinda:Probably.
PrincessTorinda: Because I'm not drunk.  Are you?
HecateMistress: So are you going to wake him up? Why are you in a hotel now anyway? I don't know why I
didn't think to ask until now. .. And, no, I'm not drunk, I don't drink.
PrincessTorinda:I don't either, unless it's for a romantic evening. ;-)
PrincessTorinda:Drinking, I mean.
PrincessTorinda: No, I'm not going to intentionally wake him up. The little boy, remember?
HecateMistress:A lot of people think I drink, but I don't. Because an Arbor Mist *so* doesn't count.
PrincessTorinda:I just thought he might have woken up because I was laughing so long.
HecateMistress:Oh, ok, I didn't get it.
PrincessTorinda:There's alcohol in it, but . . . sure.  I believe you.  I'm tired enough not to argue.
PrincessTorinda:We're in a hotel because we have an interview here tomorrow and the interviewer
people put us up for the night. :-)
HecateMistress: There's more fruit than alcohol, that's why it doesn't count.
PrincessTorinda:FRUIT!
HecateMistress: Hey, that's pretty nifty.
PrincessTorinda:Mmmmmm.
HecateMistress:lol. FRUIT
PrincessTorinda:It is.  My mom talks to fruit.
HecateMistress: Why are you being interviewed?
HecateMistress: Really? You're mom sounds so cool.
Wanna trade?
PrincessTorinda: Because we both won this competition that Juilliard put out and got to make albums.
Jessica Lyn set up the interview to get publicity for the SC or something.
PrincessTorinda: No!  But you can share.  We can be adopted sisters or something.
PrincessTorinda: (even though she would have had to have you when she was ten)
PrincessTorinda: I shared my mom with everyone in the neighborhood when I was little anyway.  But you'd
have to accept the fact that I'd always be her favorite.
HecateMistress: Hey- that's cool. The album thing.
Ok, I don't mind sharing. I have no idea where the hell my mother is anyway. Besides, you wouldn't
understand her- she speaks very little English. ..And trading doesn't mean going back in time, does it?
PrincessTorinda: I'm trying to figure out how to go back in time.
PrincessTorinda: But I haven't yet, so, no, it doesn't mean that at the moment.
PrincessTorinda: What does your mother speak?
PrincessTorinda:(My mother's native language is Moonese)
HecateMistress: I think I can accept that. :P But I might not accept it if something did happen with
her and Datura, because then he'd be close enough to my adopted dad. Ewie. Yeah, I'm really tired right now.
HecateMistress: why do you want to go back in time?
HecateMistress: If you find out, tell me.
HecateMistress:And my mom speaks Tagalog. She's from the Phillipines.
PrincessTorinda: No, nothing like *that* would ever happen.  She wouldn't marry him or anything.
Gods and Goddesses, no no no.  We don't do the marriage thing in our household.  But remember--I'm putting a
stop to that, so it's okay.
HecateMistress: I know-- but the *thought* is still there, you know?
PrincessTorinda: Tagalog?  That sounds obscure.
HecateMistress: It's the language in the Philippines or something.
PrincessTorinda: This is really wierd . . . why I want to go back in time, I mean.  I've never told it to
anyone before.  It's wierd to me.
PrincessTorinda:I guess I don't know a lot about Philipino culture.
HecateMistress: But they only speak it a lot when they come to America!! I don't get it.
PrincessTorinda: Are you serious?
PrincessTorinda:Funky.
PrincessTorinda:Is it like a secret cult language or something?
HecateMistress:Yes. They speak English there, but when they come to the states they speak to
eachother mostly in Tagalog. Like a secret language or something.
HecateMistress: Yes!!
PrincessTorinda:Wow.  Fascinating.
HecateMistress:So why do you want to go back in time? Or do you not want to tell me?
PrincessTorinda: I can tell you.  You'll just think it's crazy.
PrincessTorinda:It's that little boy thing.
PrincessTorinda:When Blaine was a little boy, he didn't have any kids who really . . .showed him
how fun it was to be a little boy.  So I want to go back and play with him.
PrincessTorinda: See . . .it's very wierd.
HecateMistress: No! That's so cute! So cute I might puke, but cute nonetheless. But not crazy. Or weird.
PrincessTorinda: Do you know what I realized?  I never answered that movies question. :P  I can't
believe I didn't answer a movies question.
HecateMistress:No, you didn't. :P But I didn't realize it either..
HecateMistress: So answer it!!
PrincessTorinda:Please don't puke.  It's not a puking matter.  I don't even think it's cute, but I'm
not offended.  It's really hard to explain.
PrincessTorinda: Oh.  My favorite movies ARE!!!
HecateMistress: I won't puke, it was just an expression.
PrincessTorinda:Hercules, Peter Pan, Princess Mononoke, The Last Unicorn, Wizard of Oz, and . . . Fern Gully.
PrincessTorinda: I know.  I just get images in my mind when people say things like that.
HecateMistress:Good choices. I've never seen that Princess Mononononoke one though.
HecateMistress: Sorry for the images.
PrincessTorinda:It's Anime.  It's so super-cool. I saw it in the theater three times.  It has the most
awesome themes, and it has Gillian Anderson and Claire Danes doing voices.  Oh, I wish that thing would
come out on video.  You have to see it.
PrincessTorinda: The images are already gone.  No need to worry.  (I have a short attention span at times)
HecateMistress: It sounds interesting, I guess.
HecateMistress:I have a short attention span too. I don't know how I've managed to stay on the
internet this long..
PrincessTorinda: I can have long conversations. My mind just drifts really bad sometimes.
PrincessTorinda: Like, if something doesn't interest me, it's hard for me to force myself to pay
attention. If something *does* interest me, I can't think of anything else.
PrincessTorinda: I remember I asked Blaine what his cabin looked like once, and I think I heard two
words before I started drifting . . . :P
HecateMistress:I think this is the longest internet conversation I've had. I'm really kind of surprised at myself.
I'm the same way!! I don't like talking about things I'm not interested in, so most of the time I don't
ask. I definitely wouldn't have asked that cabin question. :P
HecateMistress: What's even stranger is that I, like, never talk to girls. Meghan's been the only girl I've
talked to in a long long time.
HecateMistress:But I wonder if Datura counts...
PrincessTorinda: Well, I *thought* I was interested because we were driving up there and I wanted to
know what we'd see, but all I *really* wanted to know was whether we'd be sleeping in seperate rooms, and
whether the beds were double or single.
PrincessTorinda: I'm the exact same way. *You're* the first girl I've talked to in a long time.
HecateMistress: You should have just asked out right. I would have. I don't really beat around the
bush. Or I try not to anyway.
HecateMistress: Really? Hey, that's pretty weird.
PrincessTorinda: I don't know why, but I haven't had any close female friends since I was thirteen or
so . . . since before I went to Juilliard, I guess.
PrincessTorinda:Kindred spirits, perhaps? ;-)
HecateMistress: I had one close female friend, but she died when we were 17, and I haven't had any
female friends since.
Maybe kindred spirits. :-) I don't know if I believe in spirits yet, though.
PrincessTorinda: I was afraid he'd read into it. And I don't like Blaine knowing what I'm *directly*
interested in.  He collects information on me, so I used to be really careful about what he knew and
didn't know I was interested in.
HecateMistress: Hmm.. I understand, but can't relate.
PrincessTorinda: I'm sorry about your friend. :-(
PrincessTorinda: No one close to me has ever died. I'm lucky in that area.
HecateMistress:You know what would've been cool?
PrincessTorinda:Not very many people *do* relate to this situation, so you're fine.
PrincessTorinda:what?
HecateMistress:Well, she was cremated, and I wanted to take some of her ashes and put it in a
necklace so I could have a piece of her wherever I go. I know she'd have such a kick out of that. :P But her
family thought it was sick.
PrincessTorinda: Sick?  That's really beautiful.
HecateMistress: I thought so.
PrincessTorinda: I wish they would have let you do that.
PrincessTorinda:Do you want to be cremated?
HecateMistress: Me too. But she's still with me wherever I go anyway.
HecateMistress: I don't know. I haven't really thought past the death part actually.
PrincessTorinda: Of course she is.  Everyone who touches you becomes *part* of you.
PrincessTorinda:I wonder what it would be like to be dead a lot.  Not in a morbid way.  Just curious.
HecateMistress:And vice versa.
Me too. I wonder a lot about the afterlife.
PrincessTorinda: Do you believe in reincarnation?
HecateMistress:I don't know.
PrincessTorinda: And yes--of course vice versa.
HecateMistress: What do you think happens after someone dies?
PrincessTorinda: I believe in reincarnation.
HecateMistress:Datura says that he thinks that whatever a person believes is what happens to them.
HecateMistress: So, according to that, I should stop believing that I'll be rotting a little box for eternity..
PrincessTorinda:Until we've perfected ourselves, reached the highest level.  Then I think we go to
some sort of . . . Heaven, if you will.  Paradise, Elysian Fields, Eden, whatever you want to call it.
PrincessTorinda:I think Datura is right.  Belief gives power.
PrincessTorinda:Yes, you should.
PrincessTorinda:Stop believing that box thing, I mean.
HecateMistress:See, I haven't fully decided if I believe in souls.
HecateMistress:I knew what you meant. Surprisingly.
PrincessTorinda: I believe in souls.
PrincessTorinda: :-)
HecateMistress:Sometimes I think it would be easier. Not to believe, that is. That everything just stops.
PrincessTorinda: That would suck.  I love living, and I want to love after-living too. :P
HecateMistress: I wish I could say I loved living. But I'm just dealing with it. It's just like, 'Oh, so there's a life,' la la la
PrincessTorinda: Has there ever been a time in your life that you've loved living?
HecateMistress:Good question. Maybe. Probably not while I was aware of it though.
PrincessTorinda:Because if you had that, all you have to do is find that piece of yourself.  Remember, it's
still there somewhere.  And grab it and keep it.
PrincessTorinda: Good morning, Blaine.
HecateMistress: That's true, I guess.
Aw... little boy all gone.
PrincessTorinda:I'll make him come back.
HecateMistress: And maybe you won't need your time machine.
PrincessTorinda:He's not quite a man yet.  He's rubbing his eyes.  That looks little-boyish.
HecateMistress:Aw.
PrincessTorinda:Aw.
PrincessTorinda: Okay.  I should stop this.  He's going to start reading over my shoulder.
PrincessTorinda: It's his computer, after all.
HecateMistress: I understand. It's bedtime anyway... for a few minutes.
HecateMistress: I do actually plan on getting even a little bit of sleep today..
PrincessTorinda:Yeah, I need to go get ready for that interview.  Thanks for providing a distraction I
*really* needed tonight. :-)
PrincessTorinda: I might sleep half an hour or so. We'll see.
PrincessTorinda:Blaine is in the shower.  He's going to be manified when he comes out. :-(
HecateMistress: You're welcome. :-) Who knew talking to a girl would be so cool? :-)
HecateMistress:That sucks.
HecateMistress: There's always tonight..
HecateMistress: You didn't take a picture, did you?
PrincessTorinda: Yeah. :-)
PrincessTorinda: No, I didn't.  I'll have to get one some other time. :-)
PrincessTorinda: But yeah, this was cool. :-) Thanks for the great conversation, Jalessa.  I'm going
to sign off, I think.
PrincessTorinda: (You should know talking to *all* girls isn't this cool.  I'm just an exceptionally cool one ;-))
HecateMistress: I am too. Maybe will chat again sometime. :-)
HecateMistress: I believe you!
PrincessTorinda: Yeah--I added you to my buddy list. :-)
PrincessTorinda: Well, you should, because I don't lie.
PrincessTorinda: All right--Blessings.
HecateMistress: Later.

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