Sutowo Suriadi: we can put some recommendation for the
proposal...what's good and what's bad Oct 18, 2004 7:41:26 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: that sounds like an idea Oct 18, 2004 7:41:44 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont think we could be expected to have a fully
functioning VC .... Oct 18, 2004 7:42:09 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: have you read the assignment 3, what exactly they want us
to do for implementation Oct 18, 2004 7:42:22 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: for the preliminary implementation Oct 18, 2004
7:42:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i've read it - but it's not very detailed about what
should be in the prelim implementation Oct 18, 2004 7:43:03 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: right Oct 18, 2004 7:43:17 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: thats why I'm confused about preliminary
implementation Oct 18, 2004 7:43:43 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: there is less detail about what we should do than
there is for assg 2 Oct 18, 2004 7:43:49 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be we can email her Oct 18, 2004 7:43:57 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes, that is true Oct 18, 2004 7:44:06 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: read the objective Oct 18, 2004 7:44:30 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: to implement a prototype of an underlying technologies
configuration Oct 18, 2004 7:45:13 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think the objective for the whole project Oct 18,
2004 7:45:28 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: that could take some work Oct 18, 2004 7:46:58 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we need to archive each session of discussion into a
transcript Oct 18, 2004 7:46:58 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: like setting up a working database Oct 18, 2004
7:47:26 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: have a read on the task as a designer Oct 18, 2004
7:48:03 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: just got a text message from Tam - Oct 18, 2004
7:48:09 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: he wasn't at work today, he can join us in an
hour Oct 18, 2004 7:48:26 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: dont know we'll still be talking then Oct 18, 2004
7:48:36 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: 1 hour Oct 18, 2004 7:48:48 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 7:49:00 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: pascal do you know how to put transcript to word Oct
18, 2004 7:49:35 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: like the last time you did Oct 18, 2004 7:49:39 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: so I can put it to our grou website Oct 18, 2004
7:49:49 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, once the archive is there Oct 18, 2004 7:50:02
PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I think we can archive and put into the word Oct 18, 2004
7:50:18 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: you can go into the archive then just copy & paste
the text into word Oct 18, 2004 7:50:20 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes Oct 18, 2004 7:50:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: how to copy it Oct 18, 2004 7:50:57 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I have start archiving Oct 18, 2004 7:51:01 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: just copy the whole thing and paste it back to word Oct
18, 2004 7:51:39 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: anyway just talk about the preliminary implementation
first Oct 18, 2004 7:51:43 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I have tried Oct 18, 2004 7:52:00 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I used CTRL + C Oct 18, 2004 7:52:16 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: it didn't work Oct 18, 2004 7:52:32 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hello Oct 18, 2004 7:54:05 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: hi Oct 18, 2004 7:54:13 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: just be a moment Oct 18, 2004 7:54:19 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: what should we do then.... Oct 18, 2004 7:54:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Tam just rang me Oct 18, 2004 7:54:49 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: he was out of the office with work and didnt see the
email Oct 18, 2004 7:55:03 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: is he coming Oct 18, 2004 7:55:27 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: he said he could join us later tonight if we want to
go back online Oct 18, 2004 7:55:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: probably not for about an hour - he said he is
travelling home from work now Oct 18, 2004 7:55:51 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ooo ok Oct 18, 2004 7:56:01 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: how long Oct 18, 2004 7:56:03 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: otherwise we can meet again tomorrow night if
necessary Oct 18, 2004 7:56:08 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: about an hour Oct 18, 2004 7:56:14 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be just email her and then we meet again
tomorrow Oct 18, 2004 7:56:28 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: may be we start some framework now Oct 18, 2004 7:56:36
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Tam thinks that the prelim shouldnt be too
detailed Oct 18, 2004 7:56:44 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: since we need to get feedback from client group Oct
18, 2004 7:57:01 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and the final/ main implementation is due 29 oct Oct
18, 2004 7:57:28 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: that is true, just produce something, at least
something Oct 18, 2004 7:57:52 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: like Susanna said maybe we figure out framework Oct
18, 2004 7:58:38 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: some basic webpages but no more complicated stuff
yet Oct 18, 2004 7:58:55 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: like if there is a discussion board area we would say
this is where it goes but dont get it working yet Oct 18, 2004 7:59:25
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just the prototype ? Oct 18, 2004 7:59:38 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i also think we should talk to Homa Oct 18, 2004
7:59:45 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes Oct 18, 2004 7:59:50 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: the assignment 3 explanation is very confusing Oct
18, 2004 7:59:59 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I mean just the interface ? Oct 18, 2004 8:00:06 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap...not clear at all Oct 18, 2004 8:00:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: should be better than assingment 2 Oct 18, 2004 8:00:25
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:00:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: cause this flows on from assg 2 Oct 18, 2004 8:00:41
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but we have less detail rather than more Oct 18, 2004
8:00:49 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: it says that to implement a prototype of an underlying
technology configuration Oct 18, 2004 8:01:08 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: so what does that mean Susanna Oct 18, 2004 8:01:28
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: like how much are we meant to do Oct 18, 2004 8:01:41
PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what the proposal underlying technologies needed Oct 18,
2004 8:01:48 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: also design to support the needs of this VC Oct 18, 2004
8:03:10 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: so do you mean giving a description of the
technologies Oct 18, 2004 8:03:37 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: or having a working model of the technologies ? Oct
18, 2004 8:03:46 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: if its a real, working thing then we have lots to
do Oct 18, 2004 8:04:02 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what the technologies proposed in the VC Oct 18, 2004
8:04:21 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I don't think we have to make it works Oct 18, 2004
8:04:26 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I think we do not need to make it real work Oct 18, 2004
8:04:53 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we just need a prototype Oct 18, 2004 8:05:10 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: so we need to create the webpage ? Oct 18, 2004 8:05:39
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok maybe we have different ideas of what a prototype
is Oct 18, 2004 8:05:53 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i tend to think of a prototype as a working model of
the final thing Oct 18, 2004 8:06:08 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: As suggested the technologies requires PHP-Nuke, ICQ, Oct
18, 2004 8:06:25 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: waht can we do? Oct 18, 2004 8:06:36 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we can't not implement icq on web Oct 18, 2004 8:06:48
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ooo ic Oct 18, 2004 8:06:54 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we can use external link may be Oct 18, 2004 8:07:01 PM
EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just link to icq website Oct 18, 2004 8:07:10 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:07:18 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i have had a quick look at php-nuke Oct 18, 2004
8:07:21 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: for php we can use msn or yahoo group Oct 18, 2004
8:07:26 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: it provides lots of features Oct 18, 2004 8:07:41 PM
EST
SUSANNA MANN: wha is PHP-nuke Oct 18, 2004 8:07:48 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think php-nuke is a software...but runs under php Oct
18, 2004 8:08:19 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:08:35 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: OK Oct 18, 2004 8:08:40 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: it provides stuff like news pages, discussion boards,
etc Oct 18, 2004 8:08:49 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: most communities using php now..because its fast and
cheap Oct 18, 2004 8:09:00 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but im not sure how we could get it set up and
running Oct 18, 2004 8:09:47 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: then based on the prototype, we need to have a webpage
with PHP (send to link to Yahoo or MSN) Oct 18, 2004 8:09:59 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 18, 2004 8:10:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we can't make it runs.....we need programmer to do
that Oct 18, 2004 8:10:34 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: also have link to ICQ Oct 18, 2004 8:10:41 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 18, 2004 8:11:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok Oct 18, 2004 8:11:30 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: is this what we need to give for wednesday ? Oct 18,
2004 8:11:35 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I do not think we need to make it real running, just a
sample to saying to another page Oct 18, 2004 8:11:55 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: im not sure it is ???? Oct 18, 2004 8:12:06 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: sorry, i'm still confused about what we need to
submit Oct 18, 2004 8:12:27 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: me toooooo Oct 18, 2004 8:12:36 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: me too but just do something and submit Oct 18, 2004
8:12:54 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:12:59 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we can refine later Oct 18, 2004 8:13:13 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: so we just do some basic webpages with links to icq
or other things ? Oct 18, 2004 8:13:40 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yeap Oct 18, 2004 8:14:01 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be just create the main page Oct 18, 2004 8:14:11
PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yeap Oct 18, 2004 8:14:23 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: and explain how the web works Oct 18, 2004 8:14:24 PM
EST
SUSANNA MANN: for preliminary will be OK Oct 18, 2004 8:14:49 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: Sutowo can you setup another web on Geocities like our
group portal Oct 18, 2004 8:16:08 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 18, 2004 8:16:21 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we can put this into our group portal Oct 18, 2004
8:17:25 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:17:32 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think thats easier Oct 18, 2004 8:17:42 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just make new link to assignment 3 Oct 18, 2004 8:18:13
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: and put all in there Oct 18, 2004 8:18:27 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:18:52 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we can then desiged to support the needs of this VC more
detail in next week Oct 18, 2004 8:19:29 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i think from the subject's website there are some
examples Oct 18, 2004 8:19:37 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: from last semester of what groups did for assg 3 Oct
18, 2004 8:19:50 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i think we should all have a look Oct 18, 2004
8:20:04 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: .... if there still there Oct 18, 2004 8:21:26 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I have a look, they are doing the SWOT analysis Oct 18,
2004 8:21:29 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: just having a quick look ... some seem out of
date Oct 18, 2004 8:21:41 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 18, 2004 8:21:49 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I can e-mail the sample to you now Oct 18, 2004 8:22:45
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i need to go for a moment Oct 18, 2004 8:23:09 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: be back in a few minutes Oct 18, 2004 8:23:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: what we need for wednesday Oct 18, 2004 8:23:18 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: still don't know Oct 18, 2004 8:23:33 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I try to send you all the sample of the assignment 3 of
preliminary proposal Oct 18, 2004 8:26:37 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I have successful sent you one, have a look at the
sample Oct 18, 2004 8:27:32 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: through your e-mail Oct 18, 2004 8:27:42 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 18, 2004 8:29:05 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: did u send to my uts email ? Oct 18, 2004 8:31:08 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:31:27 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: cause I did not receive it Oct 18, 2004 8:31:31 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be later Oct 18, 2004 8:31:40 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can you just gime the link Oct 18, 2004 8:31:46 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: im back Oct 18, 2004 8:33:11 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: pascal do u want to send email to homa....ask about
this Oct 18, 2004 8:34:37 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ? Oct 18, 2004 8:34:39 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont know Oct 18, 2004 8:34:59 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: im not sure im in Homa's good books at the moment Oct
18, 2004 8:35:12 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: Pascal have you receive the e-mail of the sample Oct 18,
2004 8:35:16 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i think she's a bit annoyed with me Oct 18, 2004
8:35:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, i got the sample Oct 18, 2004 8:35:33 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: sample of the assignment 3 which we need to do for
preliminary Oct 18, 2004 8:36:36 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Sutowow, it has your email address in the To:
field Oct 18, 2004 8:36:48 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: have u checked your email again Oct 18, 2004 8:36:59
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ? Oct 18, 2004 8:37:02 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I didn't have it Oct 18, 2004 8:38:16 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can anyone send it again Oct 18, 2004 8:38:32 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: just sent it Oct 18, 2004 8:38:58 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: maybe we should follow that : Oct 18, 2004 8:39:19 PM
EST
Pascal Grosvenor: - a short SWOT analysis Oct 18, 2004 8:39:28 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: - do a main webpage Oct 18, 2004 8:39:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: - and some questions for the client team Oct 18, 2004
8:39:45 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I just save the sample the other day, the link I need to
find again but I can send it to you again but give me another e-mail
address for uts.edu.au is not that good Oct 18, 2004 8:39:46 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes, that is right Oct 18, 2004 8:40:40 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I got it pascal sent it to me Oct 18, 2004 8:41:08 PM
EST
Pascal Grosvenor: take a few mins to have a look Oct 18, 2004 8:41:30
PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: that is good Oct 18, 2004 8:41:30 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 18, 2004 8:41:50 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I can do the main page Oct 18, 2004 8:41:59 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Tam is joining us in a minute or two Oct 18, 2004
8:42:38 PM EST
[Pascal Grosvenor left the session] Oct 18, 2004 8:42:48 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 18, 2004 8:42:52 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: have you look at the sample Oct 18, 2004 8:43:26 PM EST
[Pascal Grosvenor joined the session] Oct 18, 2004 8:43:29 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:44:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: lets split the tasks guys Oct 18, 2004 8:44:58 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:45:08 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i could think up some questions Oct 18, 2004 8:45:34
PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: may be I do the strength and weekness and somone do
OT Oct 18, 2004 8:45:46 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I can do the web page Oct 18, 2004 8:45:49 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: that is good, may be tam do OT Oct 18, 2004 8:46:05 PM EST
[TAM TRAN joined the session] Oct 18, 2004 8:46:12 PM EST
TAM TRAN: hi guys Oct 18, 2004 8:46:21 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hi tam Oct 18, 2004 8:46:25 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: hi Oct 18, 2004 8:46:27 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: hi Oct 18, 2004 8:46:30 PM EST
TAM TRAN: just reading the above Oct 18, 2004 8:46:44 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok Oct 18, 2004 8:46:50 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: do u have any idea for assignment 3 ? Oct 18, 2004
8:46:52 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Tam, i have sent a sample prelim implementation to
your gmail address Oct 18, 2004 8:47:56 PM EST
TAM TRAN: thanks. Oct 18, 2004 8:48:20 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think we need more people to do the web site Oct 18,
2004 8:48:28 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:48:43 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: could you help with that Tam ? Oct 18, 2004 8:48:59
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: maybe Susanna you could do all of the SWOT ? Oct 18,
2004 8:49:13 PM EST
TAM TRAN: hmm havent got it yet Oct 18, 2004 8:49:42 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be I can create the interface and tam can write the
explaination Oct 18, 2004 8:49:52 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes I think so but in this preliminary may be we just do
a sample and we can have 3 people to do the actual later Oct 18, 2004
8:50:05 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i'm still unsure what we need to deliver for Wednesday...is
it a sample site and a SWOT? Oct 18, 2004 8:50:29 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: maybe it takes a few minutes Oct 18, 2004 8:50:37 PM
EST
Pascal Grosvenor: to come through email Oct 18, 2004 8:50:47 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: none of us is sure either Oct 18, 2004 8:50:58 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: about exactly what is due Oct 18, 2004 8:51:03 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but we think we'll have a very basic website/ webpage
prepared Oct 18, 2004 8:51:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: a swot analysis of the client's proposal Oct 18, 2004
8:51:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and some questions for more detail, further
explanation, etc Oct 18, 2004 8:51:53 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I think we need to think more on the SWOT and just a very
primitive webpage and we can do the webpage together later Oct 18, 2004
8:52:22 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just create the main page Oct 18, 2004 8:52:52 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:52:59 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: assg 3 doesnt specifically ask us to do a swot
analysis on our clients proposal Oct 18, 2004 8:53:05 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: so i dont think it needs to be really detailed
either Oct 18, 2004 8:53:21 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: may everyone think about S W O T Oct 18, 2004 8:53:23 PM
EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be we should ask homa Oct 18, 2004 8:53:38 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: also think about some questions together Oct 18, 2004
8:53:45 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: should definitely ask Homa - would someone else mind
emailing her Oct 18, 2004 8:54:04 PM EST
TAM TRAN: do we need to do two parts....as a client & as designer? Oct
18, 2004 8:54:05 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think we finished client part Oct 18, 2004 8:54:32 PM
EST
Pascal Grosvenor: as clients, we are waiting to get the prelim proposal
from the design group Oct 18, 2004 8:54:38 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we just produce something for tomorrow is Tuesday and Wed
is due Oct 18, 2004 8:54:43 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: then we give our feedback, etc Oct 18, 2004 8:54:46
PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: if we ask her tomorrow is that enough time to finish
it Oct 18, 2004 8:55:15 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i dont think so Oct 18, 2004 8:55:57 PM EST
TAM TRAN: what i propose is this, lets agree on what we will hand in
for wednesday, then work on some feedback from Homa and fix it up for
the final submission Oct 18, 2004 8:56:47 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 8:57:14 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: we can talk in person with Homa on wednesday Oct 18,
2004 8:57:30 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: that might be more helpful than emailing her Oct 18,
2004 8:57:40 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I suggest may be we just do the S W O T and a very
primitive webpage (mainpage) and everyone contribute some questions,
then we can submit preli Oct 18, 2004 8:57:49 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok then Oct 18, 2004 8:57:51 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: tam, have a read on the sample of the assig3, we are
following the format of the sample Oct 18, 2004 8:58:42 PM EST
TAM TRAN: cool Oct 18, 2004 8:58:43 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i still havent received it Oct 18, 2004 8:58:55 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ???? Oct 18, 2004 8:59:05 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i'll send it again Oct 18, 2004 8:59:10 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what is your e-mail Oct 18, 2004 8:59:15 PM EST
TAM TRAN: [email protected] Oct 18, 2004 8:59:21 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: pascal is that you will send it to tam? Oct 18, 2004
9:00:11 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok guys.....I will make the main page and put in on our
gruop portal Oct 18, 2004 9:00:11 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Susanna, i've sent it but you might like to try as
well Oct 18, 2004 9:00:43 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can anyone send the archieve to me.... Oct 18, 2004
9:00:49 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: sending it as well Oct 18, 2004 9:00:50 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i can send you the archive after we're finished
tonight Oct 18, 2004 9:01:12 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: no problem Oct 18, 2004 9:01:23 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I can put it later Oct 18, 2004 9:01:28 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: anything else we want to discuss ? Oct 18, 2004 9:02:10
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok, i'd like to finish up soon Oct 18, 2004 9:02:14
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Susanna, what if me & Tam can send you points for the
SWOT and questions Oct 18, 2004 9:02:40 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: could you put it together ? Oct 18, 2004 9:02:47 PM
EST
TAM TRAN: let see, so as i understand it...we need a sample site...we
also need a swot Oct 18, 2004 9:02:56 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and add some comments of your own Oct 18, 2004
9:02:59 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yes Oct 18, 2004 9:03:09 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i still havent got it, but i will bug someone tomorrow for
it Oct 18, 2004 9:04:14 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think no one really clear about this :) Oct 18, 2004
9:04:49 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: dont know why its not going through Oct 18, 2004
9:04:49 PM EST
TAM TRAN: Sutowo, will you be right to get the basic sample site ready
for Wednesday? Oct 18, 2004 9:04:56 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i havent got any reply saying it was rejected Oct 18,
2004 9:05:01 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 18, 2004 9:05:19 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I can do that Oct 18, 2004 9:05:24 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I will create main page and some explainantion for web
contents Oct 18, 2004 9:05:39 PM EST
TAM TRAN: Susanna, how much time do you need to put PAscal, myself &
your stuff together? Oct 18, 2004 9:06:24 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: do we need put all these in word ? Oct 18, 2004 9:06:51
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: or we just put it on group portal and give them the
link Oct 18, 2004 9:07:03 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: either way should be ok Oct 18, 2004 9:07:14 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I need to have one big proposal send out on Wed morning
and I am worry about the time frame that I can complete by Wed
submission, Pascal Oct 18, 2004 9:07:16 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just put on web then Oct 18, 2004 9:07:52 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: for another subject ? Oct 18, 2004 9:08:01 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes, another research project Oct 18, 2004 9:08:39 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: if you and Tam could send me SWOT points and
questions by tuesday night Oct 18, 2004 9:08:53 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i could add mine and put them together Oct 18, 2004
9:09:02 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: thanks a lot Pascal, I will send you my SWOT points to
you Oct 18, 2004 9:09:54 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: by tomorrow Oct 18, 2004 9:10:05 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can you send it to me pascal when you finished so I can
put it on our group portal Oct 18, 2004 9:10:08 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Sutowo, could you post it on our group portal if i
send it to you by lunchtime wednesday ? Oct 18, 2004 9:10:35 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok np Oct 18, 2004 9:10:46 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: should we give the link to our client ? Oct 18, 2004
9:11:05 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: or just homa ? Oct 18, 2004 9:11:09 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i think just to the client this time Oct 18, 2004
9:11:20 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can u give me the email also Oct 18, 2004 9:11:34 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont know their email right know Oct 18, 2004
9:11:48 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: now Oct 18, 2004 9:11:50 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i can look it up later Oct 18, 2004 9:11:57 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I have only one e-mail Oct 18, 2004 9:12:09 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i will send Oct 18, 2004 9:12:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: oo ok just make sure it right Oct 18, 2004 9:12:16 PM
EST
SUSANNA MANN: of the clinet group Oct 18, 2004 9:12:19 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just give any email of our client Oct 18, 2004 9:12:35
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I'll send it to everyone Oct 18, 2004 9:12:41 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: this is another problem actually Oct 18, 2004 9:13:28
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: it's hard to find out the emails other groups and
people in the subject Oct 18, 2004 9:13:42 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what's problem Oct 18, 2004 9:13:44 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: we have there proposal but i dont know any of client
group's emails Oct 18, 2004 9:14:12 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I have one e-mail of the client group Oct 18, 2004
9:14:30 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: who ? Oct 18, 2004 9:14:35 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I will find it now Oct 18, 2004 9:15:13 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Tam, can you send me swot stuff & questions tues
night ? Oct 18, 2004 9:15:40 PM EST
TAM TRAN: yep Oct 18, 2004 9:15:46 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: good, i think we have a rough plan Oct 18, 2004
9:16:02 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: susan can you send me the email.....I just worry if its
wrong Oct 18, 2004 9:16:43 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: is United Group our client ? Oct 18, 2004 9:17:12 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I will send you the e-mail later after I find it
tonight Oct 18, 2004 9:17:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 18, 2004 9:17:26 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: nemo is our client Oct 18, 2004 9:17:50 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: no, they are designing our proposal Oct 18, 2004
9:18:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: but nemo proposal is pet care Oct 18, 2004 9:18:19 PM
EST
SUSANNA MANN: then who is our client Oct 18, 2004 9:18:37 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: nemo is our designer Oct 18, 2004 9:18:40 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: confusion reigns :- ) Oct 18, 2004 9:18:51 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: laughing .... Oct 18, 2004 9:18:55 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I only have one memeber of nemo Oct 18, 2004 9:18:57 PM
EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok...we are group 3 right Oct 18, 2004 9:19:10 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: sorry Oct 18, 2004 9:19:15 PM EST
TAM TRAN: confusion everywhere Oct 18, 2004 9:19:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: group 3 design group 1 proposal Oct 18, 2004 9:19:25 PM
EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont mean to be rude Oct 18, 2004 9:19:28 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: group 1 is united Oct 18, 2004 9:19:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont think Homa explained it well in that word
doc Oct 18, 2004 9:19:42 PM EST
TAM TRAN: tell me about it Oct 18, 2004 9:19:52 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: and Nemo will design our proposal Oct 18, 2004 9:19:54
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: its sort of funny that we're still not sure who is
designer and who is client Oct 18, 2004 9:20:08 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: nemo is our designer.......and united is our client Oct
18, 2004 9:20:11 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and vice versa Oct 18, 2004 9:20:14 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, youre right sutowo Oct 18, 2004 9:20:26 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: wait a min is that University VC is our proposal to
implement Oct 18, 2004 9:20:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 18, 2004 9:20:45 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but i dont know who is in nemo or their email
addresses Oct 18, 2004 9:20:48 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: thats my point - how do we send them our prelim
implementation Oct 18, 2004 9:21:04 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I only have one e-mail of nemo Oct 18, 2004 9:21:08 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hold on guys Oct 18, 2004 9:21:18 PM EST
TAM TRAN: we do because are we sorted by groups? Oct 18, 2004 9:21:20
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: oops i meant to say united Oct 18, 2004 9:21:23 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I really confused Oct 18, 2004 9:21:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: see what i mean .... confusion Oct 18, 2004 9:21:30
PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: why united Oct 18, 2004 9:21:41 PM EST
TAM TRAN: when we logged on to this classroom, there is a groups
thingy Oct 18, 2004 9:21:43 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: united is our client Oct 18, 2004 9:21:49 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: united is our client we need to send them our prelim
implementation Oct 18, 2004 9:21:58 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: why we need to send to our designer Oct 18, 2004
9:22:02 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: then nemo Oct 18, 2004 9:22:07 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but i dont know any of their emails Oct 18, 2004
9:22:10 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: nemo is our designer Oct 18, 2004 9:22:14 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: not our client Oct 18, 2004 9:22:18 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i'll be back, i just wanna check this groups thing Oct 18,
2004 9:22:29 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: nemo will send to us their perimin... Oct 18, 2004
9:22:33 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we need united e-mail Oct 18, 2004 9:22:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: good luck Oct 18, 2004 9:22:37 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes we need united's emails Oct 18, 2004 9:22:46 PM
EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 18, 2004 9:22:48 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we don't need nemo emails Oct 18, 2004 9:22:55 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: you guys can download design-client files Oct 18, 2004
9:23:23 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: it has link to united proposal....we get the email from
their Oct 18, 2004 9:23:38 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: suto united Aham is the member of united (GIS) Oct 18,
2004 9:24:39 PM EST
TAM TRAN: yeah no email address, only our group Oct 18, 2004 9:24:58 PM
EST
Sutowo Suriadi: sorry Oct 18, 2004 9:25:01 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: Suto you got it, GIS classmate is in United Oct 18, 2004
9:25:53 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I got the united portal Oct 18, 2004 9:26:11 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: good Oct 18, 2004 9:26:17 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: are we ok then, im starting to feel quite tired Oct
18, 2004 9:26:34 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ? Oct 18, 2004 9:26:36 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: http://charlie.it.uts.edu.au/~smshah/united/ Oct 18,
2004 9:26:42 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ready to stop Oct 18, 2004 9:26:44 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hope it's right Oct 18, 2004 9:26:51 PM EST
TAM TRAN: whats the password? Oct 18, 2004 9:27:17 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: www Oct 18, 2004 9:27:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: username Oct 18, 2004 9:27:36 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: rosebud Oct 18, 2004 9:27:40 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: rosebud Oct 18, 2004 9:27:40 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok, thanks everyone Oct 18, 2004 9:28:26 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok guys I think it's right Oct 18, 2004 9:28:26 PM EST
TAM TRAN: thanks Oct 18, 2004 9:28:28 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: may we start do our work and I will send you my part to
you Pascal Oct 18, 2004 9:28:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I will send to them Oct 18, 2004 9:28:43 PM EST
TAM TRAN: sounds good. Oct 18, 2004 9:28:45 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, i will put together and email to sutowo by
wednesday lunch Oct 18, 2004 9:29:08 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: don't forget the archive file pascal Oct 18, 2004
9:29:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i wont Oct 18, 2004 9:29:49 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: bye for now Oct 18, 2004 9:29:53 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 18, 2004 9:29:57 PM EST
TAM TRAN: bye Oct 18, 2004 9:29:58 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: thanks Oct 18, 2004 9:29:58 PM EST

Sutowo Suriadi: and member contribution Oct 28, 2004 9:42:45 PM EST
TAM TRAN: can you pls send to [email protected] thanks Oct 28, 2004
9:42:55 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 28, 2004 9:43:05 PM EST
TAM TRAN: do we know what needs to be submitted tomorrow? Oct 28, 2004
9:44:21 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: supposedly the final implementation Oct 28, 2004 9:44:44
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: :-) Oct 28, 2004 9:44:47 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but im not sure thats going to happen Oct 28, 2004
9:44:54 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 9:44:59 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: final implementation Oct 28, 2004 9:45:04 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I already sent it to your email tam Oct 28, 2004 9:45:14
PM EST
TAM TRAN: lets see what we need to do and work it out Oct 28, 2004 9:45:20
PM EST
TAM TRAN: thanks ..got it Oct 28, 2004 9:45:32 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: the thing is that the report and URL to the
implementation is due on 3 november Oct 28, 2004 9:45:50 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: lets start from the requirment Oct 28, 2004 9:45:52 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i think we could probably take a little longer to design
the final implementation Oct 28, 2004 9:46:18 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i thought thats when we put everything together Oct 28, 2004
9:46:18 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 9:46:31 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we have to make it works also Oct 28, 2004 9:46:39 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and the client group took a while to respond to our
preliminary stuff Oct 28, 2004 9:46:41 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: they did send it to me...but I didn't pay attention to the
email address Oct 28, 2004 9:47:09 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I thought they send it to all of you Oct 28, 2004 9:47:26
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: oops Oct 28, 2004 9:47:42 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i might have seemed bit rude with my email then Oct 28,
2004 9:47:52 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hehehehe Oct 28, 2004 9:48:00 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: sorry I just got the email for it is very slow to open up my
e-mail a/c Oct 28, 2004 9:48:04 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: never mind...it's too late Oct 28, 2004 9:48:10 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: lets start Oct 28, 2004 9:48:16 PM EST
TAM TRAN: how about what we think we need to hand in tomorrow Oct 28, 2004
9:49:38 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what we need to hand in by tomorrow? Oct 28, 2004 9:50:01 PM
EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just continue the preliminary implementation Oct 28, 2004
9:50:17 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: the 90-95% finished virtual community Oct 28, 2004
9:50:31 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i asked Homa about this yesterday : Oct 28, 2004 9:50:44
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: wow Oct 28, 2004 9:50:57 PM EST
TAM TRAN: what did homa say, PAscal Oct 28, 2004 9:51:12 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: at least 2 other groups are also using yahoo groups to
do their implementation Oct 28, 2004 9:51:18 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: (more comments following, just takes a while to type
them) Oct 28, 2004 9:51:36 PM EST
[Pascal Grosvenor left the session] Oct 28, 2004 9:53:19 PM EST
TAM TRAN: he ran away Oct 28, 2004 9:53:34 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what happens? Oct 28, 2004 9:53:44 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: what happens ? Oct 28, 2004 9:53:47 PM EST
TAM TRAN: he must have got disconnected Oct 28, 2004 9:54:29 PM EST
[Pascal Grosvenor joined the session] Oct 28, 2004 9:54:35 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what happens, Pascal? Oct 28, 2004 9:54:56 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: that was fun Oct 28, 2004 9:55:02 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i clicked the button for compose Oct 28, 2004 9:55:11 PM
EST
Pascal Grosvenor: to type a longer message and it crashed my browser ! Oct
28, 2004 9:55:22 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: anyway .... Oct 28, 2004 9:55:37 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: start archieve Oct 28, 2004 9:55:47 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: have you got the email from homa, may be you can send it to
us Oct 28, 2004 9:55:54 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont have an email from Homa Oct 28, 2004 9:56:19 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: my bad Oct 28, 2004 9:56:21 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i spoke to her in person Oct 28, 2004 9:56:27 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I'm checking yahoo group now Oct 28, 2004 9:56:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i mentioned that the client's proposal talked about
using sql database, php nuke, etc Oct 28, 2004 9:57:01 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and that it takes a lot of work to set these up Oct 28,
2004 9:57:15 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what she says? Oct 28, 2004 9:57:32 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: as well most free websites dont host databases or let
you run php Oct 28, 2004 9:57:47 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: as far as i know Oct 28, 2004 9:57:54 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 9:58:08 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: she said yahoo groups would be fine Oct 28, 2004 9:58:20
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 28, 2004 9:58:29 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: good Oct 28, 2004 9:58:34 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and that we could setup a limited database inside yahoo
groups Oct 28, 2004 9:58:37 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 28, 2004 9:58:47 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we can use yahoo Oct 28, 2004 9:59:20 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: there'd be a whole bunch of potential problems and more
work if we try Oct 28, 2004 9:59:22 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: to build it all ourselves rather than using yahoo Oct
28, 2004 9:59:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 9:59:39 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: that's impossible Oct 28, 2004 9:59:44 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: so i definitely think we should use yahoo Oct 28, 2004
9:59:56 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: lets devide the tasks Oct 28, 2004 10:00:00 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I think just use yahoo one Oct 28, 2004 10:00:04 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: maybe even mention that in the report Oct 28, 2004
10:00:08 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Homa also talked about creating some content for the
site Oct 28, 2004 10:00:30 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: so its not an empty shell in a way Oct 28, 2004 10:00:45
PM EST
TAM TRAN: like news etc? Oct 28, 2004 10:00:45 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what content? Oct 28, 2004 10:00:48 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 28, 2004 10:00:52 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: putting some links to unis Oct 28, 2004 10:01:01 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 10:01:07 PM EST
TAM TRAN: cool...uni events etc Oct 28, 2004 10:01:16 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: the feedback from the client was quite useful Oct 28,
2004 10:01:20 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: the client mentioned it in their feedback Oct 28, 2004
10:01:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: we could also put some links for recruitment, travel,
coop bookshop Oct 28, 2004 10:01:40 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: etc Oct 28, 2004 10:01:42 PM EST
TAM TRAN: does anyone have a copy they email to me, right now Oct 28, 2004
10:01:53 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: you didn't have it Oct 28, 2004 10:02:10 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I sent it to u Oct 28, 2004 10:02:13 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what email? Oct 28, 2004 10:02:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hold on Oct 28, 2004 10:02:18 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: is tam have the feedback from unitied? Oct 28, 2004 10:02:55
PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: suto? Oct 28, 2004 10:03:06 PM EST
TAM TRAN: r u talking about final implementation.doc? Oct 28, 2004
10:03:14 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: no, just the feedback from united Oct 28, 2004 10:03:35 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: final implementation is the summary of client's feedback
Oct 28, 2004 10:03:40 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I made it...just to make it easier to read Oct 28, 2004
10:04:03 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i get u Oct 28, 2004 10:04:21 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I sent it to your gmail tam Oct 28, 2004 10:05:35 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just send Oct 28, 2004 10:05:39 PM EST
TAM TRAN: got it thanks Oct 28, 2004 10:06:08 PM EST
TAM TRAN: cool, let sort out what we need to do then Oct 28, 2004 10:06:49
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: go go Oct 28, 2004 10:07:38 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: sutowo, can you gives us the login details Oct 28, 2004
10:07:53 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: for the yahoo group Oct 28, 2004 10:07:58 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: we should probably all work the on the site a bit Oct
28, 2004 10:08:16 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I haven't register Oct 28, 2004 10:08:21 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hold on let me do it right now Oct 28, 2004 10:08:37 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: at least so there's a bit of content, links, etc Oct 28,
2004 10:08:43 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: what should we write for the report ? Oct 28, 2004
10:09:06 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: lots Oct 28, 2004 10:09:12 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: im just re-reading that section now Oct 28, 2004
10:09:29 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I saw the other sample there are not much in the report Oct
28, 2004 10:09:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: which sample is that ? Oct 28, 2004 10:09:50 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: the link that homa gave us early in the term Oct 28, 2004
10:10:13 PM EST
TAM TRAN: lets separate the 2 things ....one is final implementation & the
other is report Oct 28, 2004 10:11:20 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 28, 2004 10:11:31 PM EST
TAM TRAN: the report is i presume our prelim stuff, our feedback , how we
intend to incoorporate, how do review? Oct 28, 2004 10:11:56 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: they are the 2 main parts of the assessment Oct 28, 2004
10:11:59 PM EST
TAM TRAN: agreed Oct 28, 2004 10:12:10 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but there is also the presentation Oct 28, 2004 10:12:13
PM EST
TAM TRAN: presso, i presume covers our report? Oct 28, 2004 10:12:30 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: it describes the report on 2nd last page of assignments
document Oct 28, 2004 10:12:42 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: presentation covers most parts of report but not all Oct
28, 2004 10:13:09 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: including a demo of our virtual community Oct 28, 2004
10:13:34 PM EST
TAM TRAN: yep Oct 28, 2004 10:13:48 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: is that after 10/11, NC will be finished? Oct 28, 2004
10:16:14 PM EST
TAM TRAN: yep Oct 28, 2004 10:16:23 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i figure for our report we will need one person for client,one
for desginer, one for researcher, one for protptype....is that right Oct
28, 2004 10:17:24 PM EST
TAM TRAN: will something like that work? Oct 28, 2004 10:17:57 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: thats not a bad idea Oct 28, 2004 10:18:01 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: reading it now i can only really see 3 sections Oct 28,
2004 10:18:26 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok guys....go to yahoo.com Oct 28, 2004 10:18:37 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: click groups Oct 28, 2004 10:18:43 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: log in name usvc2004 and password 2004usvc Oct 28, 2004
10:18:58 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: as a client, report of actions as a designer, and as a
researcher observing process Oct 28, 2004 10:19:08 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: the client and designer sections probably need the most
work Oct 28, 2004 10:19:46 PM EST
TAM TRAN: well researcher can put it all together and i figure the
prototype will take some time? Oct 28, 2004 10:21:06 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: suto I could find group? Oct 28, 2004 10:21:11 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: couldn't Oct 28, 2004 10:21:21 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: when you say prototype do you mean the final
implementation Oct 28, 2004 10:21:53 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: the working part of the virtual community ? Oct 28, 2004
10:22:06 PM EST
TAM TRAN: yep Oct 28, 2004 10:22:17 PM EST
TAM TRAN: is this doable? Oct 28, 2004 10:22:35 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: you need to log in Oct 28, 2004 10:23:15 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i just logged in Oct 28, 2004 10:23:24 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: once you login you need to then click on groups Oct 28,
2004 10:23:39 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be we need to invite all of us to this community Oct
28, 2004 10:23:56 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: we should test if more than 1 of us can be logged in at
the same time Oct 28, 2004 10:23:59 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i'm logged in Oct 28, 2004 10:24:14 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think we can Oct 28, 2004 10:24:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: cool, me too Oct 28, 2004 10:24:40 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I can Oct 28, 2004 10:24:44 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok cool Oct 28, 2004 10:24:56 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: it is only a shared e-mail account, am I right? Oct 28, 2004
10:25:08 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we need to invite somebody Oct 28, 2004 10:25:21 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: to test it Oct 28, 2004 10:25:27 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i will invite myself Oct 28, 2004 10:25:39 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: what else we need to do ? Oct 28, 2004 10:26:07 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I think the prototype no need to have the full function of
USVC??? Oct 28, 2004 10:26:55 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: no, we're past the prototype now Oct 28, 2004 10:27:30
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 10:27:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: we're meant to have our final implementation Oct 28,
2004 10:27:40 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I just invite united group Oct 28, 2004 10:27:49 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: somebody need to be a moderator Oct 28, 2004 10:28:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: if we want to try and stick to tomorrow we need the usvc
set up in yahoo groups Oct 28, 2004 10:28:47 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: with the report due next wed 3 nov Oct 28, 2004 10:28:56
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont think it would be too bad if we took till
saturday to work on the implementation Oct 28, 2004 10:29:47 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we need to sort what we are going to do Oct 28, 2004
10:29:55 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: what if we all try and work on the implementation for
tomorrow Oct 28, 2004 10:31:10 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: then split up the report work to be done afterwards Oct
28, 2004 10:31:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ? Oct 28, 2004 10:31:25 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 28, 2004 10:31:36 PM EST
TAM TRAN: now what do we need to finalise final implementation....can we
agree on this Oct 28, 2004 10:32:20 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 10:32:38 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what sort of final implementation work we need to do? Oct
28, 2004 10:33:00 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: set up the different parts of the vc : Oct 28, 2004
10:34:03 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be we explain about the tools in yahoo groups and how
it works Oct 28, 2004 10:34:07 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i'm goin to out on a limb and say we need to expand on those
points mentioned in the preliminary and explain our vc Oct 28, 2004
10:34:20 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: a couple of discussions boards, forums Oct 28, 2004
10:34:32 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: some news postings, Oct 28, 2004 10:34:38 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: links to other websites Oct 28, 2004 10:34:48 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: that sort of thing Oct 28, 2004 10:34:55 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ic Oct 28, 2004 10:35:03 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: put in some content as an example Oct 28, 2004 10:35:15
PM EST
TAM TRAN: will we able to have this done for tomorrow? Oct 28, 2004
10:35:45 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: thats the difficult bit - not necessarily Oct 28, 2004
10:36:13 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I can set the yahoo group Oct 28, 2004 10:36:23 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: for the news, database, and etc Oct 28, 2004 10:36:35 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i can expand on those points we mentioned in prelim and refer to
specific examples on our vc Oct 28, 2004 10:37:13 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i can put some content in Oct 28, 2004 10:37:14 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: put some details about uts courses for example Oct 28,
2004 10:37:31 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we can send the final implementation at night may be Oct
28, 2004 10:37:38 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 10:37:47 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: put some external links Oct 28, 2004 10:37:55 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: if we send it friday night Oct 28, 2004 10:37:56 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i think that would be okay Oct 28, 2004 10:38:03 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 28, 2004 10:38:08 PM EST
TAM TRAN: yep...lets aim for that Oct 28, 2004 10:38:13 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: should be alright Oct 28, 2004 10:38:16 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I try to find some link from homa for assignment 3 but I
couldn't find one Oct 28, 2004 10:38:55 PM EST
TAM TRAN: do you guys have the prelim report ....i seem to have left it on
my work machine? Oct 28, 2004 10:38:57 PM EST
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Pascal Grosvenor: there is a link from our group portal Oct 28, 2004
10:40:37 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: isn't there ? Oct 28, 2004 10:40:41 PM EST
TAM TRAN: we can then talk final report on Saturday morning, so we have
whole weekend Oct 28, 2004 10:40:45 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just go to group portal Oct 28, 2004 10:40:49 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, and incorporate any feedback about the usvc from
client group Oct 28, 2004 10:41:24 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: click on client page tam Oct 28, 2004 10:41:44 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: no, I mean the sample of the final implementation that homa
send to us early in the term Oct 28, 2004 10:42:12 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: the link for sample Oct 28, 2004 10:42:29 PM EST
TAM TRAN: yep Oct 28, 2004 10:42:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: what else ? Oct 28, 2004 10:44:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can u guys give me before 8 tomorrow ? Oct 28, 2004
10:46:14 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: so I can put it on our gportal Oct 28, 2004 10:46:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 28, 2004 10:46:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: can i login and add content myself ? Oct 28, 2004
10:46:48 PM EST
TAM TRAN: ok, so as we have it, Sutowo, set Yahoo Groups etc, Pascal abit
of content management etc, Tam touch up prelim and incorporate feedback .
Susanna, we might give you some more stuff with the final report....is
that cool? Oct 28, 2004 10:46:56 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: pascal, do remmember about affiliate strategy ? Oct 28,
2004 10:47:52 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes i do Oct 28, 2004 10:48:37 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can you do it ? Oct 28, 2004 10:49:00 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i'll try and add that a bit Oct 28, 2004 10:49:07 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: www.geocities.com/uts_the_jones_II/ Oct 28, 2004 10:49:14 PM
EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok cool Oct 28, 2004 10:49:18 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i guess it's mainly links Oct 28, 2004 10:49:22 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: oo ok Oct 28, 2004 10:49:30 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: proper affiliations would take time to set up Oct 28,
2004 10:49:36 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ic ic Oct 28, 2004 10:49:47 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I check the homa link Oct 28, 2004 10:49:48 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: like you'd need agreements with travel agencies or
bookstore etc Oct 28, 2004 10:49:57 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: they would have links to our group and so on Oct 28,
2004 10:50:07 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: this is the yahoo group that setup for the VC Oct 28, 2004
10:50:12 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I think we are not using the shared e-mail a/c, I think we
need the Yahoo group Oct 28, 2004 10:50:42 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yahoo has everything Oct 28, 2004 10:51:16 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I mean they have enough features to create VC Oct 28, 2004
10:52:18 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, i think so Oct 28, 2004 10:52:49 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: anything else ? Oct 28, 2004 10:53:22 PM EST
TAM TRAN: i goin to leave so i can start on my stuff Oct 28, 2004 10:53:27
PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: me too Oct 28, 2004 10:53:39 PM EST
TAM TRAN: so i will aim to send this by 8....do u mean 8am or 8pm? Oct 28,
2004 10:53:48 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: please send me before 8 pm guys Oct 28, 2004 10:53:50 PM EST
TAM TRAN: yep Oct 28, 2004 10:53:56 PM EST
TAM TRAN: see u guys. Oct 28, 2004 10:54:04 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ill try and add stuff myself Oct 28, 2004 10:54:04 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: if i cant .... Oct 28, 2004 10:54:09 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok Oct 28, 2004 10:54:10 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ill send it to you Oct 28, 2004 10:54:14 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: see u ugys Oct 28, 2004 10:54:14 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: pascal Oct 28, 2004 10:54:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok thanks Oct 28, 2004 10:54:24 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: send me the archieve file Oct 28, 2004 10:54:29 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: bye2 Oct 28, 2004 10:55:07 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ooo pascal Oct 28, 2004 10:55:25 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: send me the comparison file also Oct 28, 2004 10:55:34 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: comparison for UTS online and etc Oct 28, 2004 10:55:55 PM
EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be we need that for our gportal Oct 28, 2004 10:56:12
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok Oct 28, 2004 10:56:14 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: alright thanks Oct 28, 2004 10:56:26 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: see u guys Oct 28, 2004 10:56:29 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: umm yes, id forgotten about that one Oct 28, 2004
10:56:29 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: bye2 Oct 28, 2004 10:56:37 PM EST
[Sutowo Suriadi left the session] Oct 28, 2004 10:56:42 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: so we'll meet saturday morning to discuss report Oct 28,
2004 10:57:11 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and figure out who does what Oct 28, 2004 10:57:21 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: sorry I miss for I try to find the link Oct 28, 2004
10:57:26 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: thats ok Oct 28, 2004 10:58:14 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: but have a look on the link, it seems quite good for we can
do it like that Oct 28, 2004 10:58:19 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: there will still be plenty of other stuff to do Oct 28,
2004 10:58:42 PM EST
[TAM TRAN left the session] Oct 28, 2004 10:59:27 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: bye Oct 28, 2004 10:59:39 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: are we figure out tomorrow submission Oct 28, 2004 10:59:42
PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, i think we've got the stuff for tomorrow sorted out
Oct 28, 2004 11:00:13 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: good, I will have a look for the archive Oct 28, 2004
11:00:39 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: bye Oct 28, 2004 11:00:46 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: bye again Oct 28, 2004 11:00:51 PM EST

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Pascal Grosvenor: read the assesment document please Oct 30, 2004 5:25:54 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: it says what needs to be submitted in there Oct 30, 2004 5:26:07 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: it mention actual technology configuration design Oct 30, 2004 5:26:46 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: then there is a series of points Oct 30, 2004 5:27:43 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: that have more detail about what sound be in the report Oct 30, 2004 5:27:56 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: should Oct 30, 2004 5:28:03 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: is that the yahoo group set up is ok for technology configuration design Oct 30, 2004 5:28:04 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i think so - that was what i was trying to say thursday night Oct 30, 2004 5:28:30 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but im not 100% sure, is there something else or more you think we should do ? Oct 30, 2004 5:28:51 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we are just do the client bit for the report, am I right Oct 30, 2004 5:29:54 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: evaulation of the implementation of the project proposal Oct 30, 2004 5:30:25 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, we need to do that as the client Oct 30, 2004 5:30:48 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but we also need to write up how we did our implementation as a design group Oct 30, 2004 5:31:12 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: did you guys recieve final implementation from designer group ? Oct 30, 2004 5:31:36 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: not really??? Oct 30, 2004 5:31:57 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: havent heard anything from them Oct 30, 2004 5:32:08 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: me too Oct 30, 2004 5:32:17 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I think basically we need to have 3 topic, as client, as designer and as researcher Oct 30, 2004 5:33:17 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: client: evaluation, designer: approach and implemetation, researcher: evaluation the collaboration tools and the method during the process of achieving it Oct 30, 2004 5:34:46 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes Oct 30, 2004 5:35:23 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: anyone know tam phone number ? Oct 30, 2004 5:35:36 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: pascal you know tam no.??? Oct 30, 2004 5:36:24 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, i think its 0416126863 Oct 30, 2004 5:36:29 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: thanks Oct 30, 2004 5:37:07 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: may be we can split the work according to the role, as designer, as client, as researcher Oct 30, 2004 5:37:46 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what do you think? Oct 30, 2004 5:38:00 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: client may be (2) and designer (1) and researcher (1) Oct 30, 2004 5:38:45 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: tam said just discuss the report and send him email for his part Oct 30, 2004 5:39:24 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: might be the most work is for the design section Oct 30, 2004 5:39:24 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think 2 people for design Oct 30, 2004 5:39:46 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: designer (2), client (1) researcher (1) Oct 30, 2004 5:39:54 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i could do the client section since my proposal was the on to be implemented Oct 30, 2004 5:40:02 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: client on need to give evaluation right Oct 30, 2004 5:40:07 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap....that's right Pascal Oct 30, 2004 5:40:18 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I can do researcher Oct 30, 2004 5:40:30 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i will use what we already have and write it up in more detail Oct 30, 2004 5:40:39 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: also, if we hear from the design group ... Oct 30, 2004 5:41:06 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I may need to analyse the e-mail, UTS online chat Oct 30, 2004 5:41:21 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: if everyone could have a quick look and give me some feedback that would be helpful Oct 30, 2004 5:41:27 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: at their proposal, this would help me to write the evaluation of their implementation Oct 30, 2004 5:41:58 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, i think you would need to review the emails, uts online discussions Susanna Oct 30, 2004 5:42:40 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I have checked the email, no reply Oct 30, 2004 5:43:15 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i was having a look at the assg3_final.doc Oct 30, 2004 5:44:43 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Sutowo, perhaps you and Tam can add some more stuff to that Oct 30, 2004 5:45:09 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: then that will be our section of the final report Oct 30, 2004 5:45:23 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: as designer Oct 30, 2004 5:45:27 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: it's good so far, seems like quite a bit of stuff Oct 30, 2004 5:45:45 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: designer will be the one doing the actual yahoo group? Oct 30, 2004 5:46:04 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap... Oct 30, 2004 5:46:22 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I think so Oct 30, 2004 5:46:27 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I may contribute to that if I can finish mine part Oct 30, 2004 5:47:12 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: we should be able to put it all together in a word document to submit to Homa Oct 30, 2004 5:48:04 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: is that clinet is one evaluation your proposal from the other group Oct 30, 2004 5:48:13 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: and should also post a copy of the final report on the group portal Oct 30, 2004 5:48:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: evaluating their implementation of the computer games archive Oct 30, 2004 5:48:58 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: .... Oct 30, 2004 5:51:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: still here ? Oct 30, 2004 5:51:39 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yeap Oct 30, 2004 5:51:54 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: im not sure if there's much more to discuss for now Oct 30, 2004 5:51:59 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: suto wake up Oct 30, 2004 5:52:07 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: we can use this link for sample Oct 30, 2004 5:52:39 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: what link? Oct 30, 2004 5:53:07 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: http://www.geocities.com/nextgen_2004/home.htm Oct 30, 2004 5:53:31 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: that is good, we can do that format Oct 30, 2004 5:54:38 PM EST
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Pascal Grosvenor: back again, my internet connection died Oct 30, 2004 5:55:11 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: np Oct 30, 2004 5:56:00 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: as researcher I need to analyse all the process Oct 30, 2004 5:56:09 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: after we finish Oct 30, 2004 5:56:11 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i can send an email confirming what everyone is doing for the final report Oct 30, 2004 5:56:28 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: some I need to write up Oct 30, 2004 5:56:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok...thanks Pascal Oct 30, 2004 5:56:50 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: when we targetted to finish Oct 30, 2004 5:57:19 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can anyone give on tuesday.... Oct 30, 2004 5:57:24 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: Susanna, i think you'd need to write a bit about how we split up the work Oct 30, 2004 5:57:27 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: who did what, etc Oct 30, 2004 5:57:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 30, 2004 5:57:39 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes Oct 30, 2004 5:57:42 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: also describe tools we used - like uts online meetings Oct 30, 2004 5:57:53 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yes Oct 30, 2004 5:58:03 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just follow the sample Oct 30, 2004 5:58:16 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: it's good Oct 30, 2004 5:58:20 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: we only use e-mail and UTS online Oct 30, 2004 5:58:20 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: you know we can use phone Oct 30, 2004 5:58:32 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: cannot Oct 30, 2004 5:58:38 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: thats ok, just talk about those two Oct 30, 2004 5:58:43 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: no phone Oct 30, 2004 5:58:44 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: yeap Oct 30, 2004 5:59:01 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: suto and pascal, can you give me a little detail of your actual task for I have not much invole in that Oct 30, 2004 6:00:21 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hmm...how to say it Oct 30, 2004 6:00:50 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: can you explain to her Pascal Oct 30, 2004 6:01:04 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ummm .... Oct 30, 2004 6:01:28 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: .. Oct 30, 2004 6:01:29 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I have a close look on the yahoo group regarding database, poll ..... Oct 30, 2004 6:01:35 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: firstly setting up the group in yahoo Oct 30, 2004 6:01:58 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: any framework or outline that you can give me Oct 30, 2004 6:02:03 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: may be setup VC system Oct 30, 2004 6:02:07 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: activate Oct 30, 2004 6:02:19 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: adding some content - links, messages, description, photos Oct 30, 2004 6:02:32 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: just think something susan Oct 30, 2004 6:02:56 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: any design of the files need and datebase selection Oct 30, 2004 6:03:13 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 30, 2004 6:03:34 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok, can we all try to finish our sections by tuesday evening Oct 30, 2004 6:03:42 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 30, 2004 6:03:57 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: so we can put all together wednesday, post on group portal, etc Oct 30, 2004 6:04:00 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: all right Oct 30, 2004 6:04:06 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: soft copy only right ? Oct 30, 2004 6:04:32 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: how about your part on client any detail Oct 30, 2004 6:04:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: maybe if there are any more questions or things we can just discuss by email Oct 30, 2004 6:04:33 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yes, soft copy emailed to Homa and posted on group portal Oct 30, 2004 6:04:51 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: oo ok Oct 30, 2004 6:05:17 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: may be we send to suto and you post it to group portal Oct 30, 2004 6:05:20 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: OK???? Oct 30, 2004 6:05:55 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: you guys can send it to me on wednesday Oct 30, 2004 6:05:56 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: enough time? Oct 30, 2004 6:06:11 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap..only post it to our gportal Oct 30, 2004 6:06:34 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: less than 5 min Oct 30, 2004 6:06:42 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: do you mean to make the report in html style ? Oct 30, 2004 6:07:07 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: pascal, can you just give me some outline as client for I have not look into your proposal Oct 30, 2004 6:07:36 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: html - i think so, if thats not too difficult or doesn take too much time Oct 30, 2004 6:08:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok...I will try to do it if I have enough time Oct 30, 2004 6:08:53 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: cause I have final project too on wed Oct 30, 2004 6:09:03 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: better send to you on tues Oct 30, 2004 6:09:06 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: evening Oct 30, 2004 6:09:15 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: oh, ok Oct 30, 2004 6:09:22 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont mind if we just post one word document with whole report Oct 30, 2004 6:09:44 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: you want doc or html, I can produce it in html Oct 30, 2004 6:10:00 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: hmmm... Oct 30, 2004 6:10:15 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: for my part Oct 30, 2004 6:10:15 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: if you guys can send me on monday night I can do it Oct 30, 2004 6:10:56 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: mon night??? I need to try my very best Oct 30, 2004 6:11:27 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: i dont know that i can, i cant do the evaluation of the our proposal Oct 30, 2004 6:11:36 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: until we see their implementation Oct 30, 2004 6:11:47 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: yeap Oct 30, 2004 6:11:54 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: but i could send you the other part Oct 30, 2004 6:12:04 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: by monday Oct 30, 2004 6:12:13 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: send me the completed one Oct 30, 2004 6:12:38 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: it would be easier for me to convert it to hmtl Oct 30, 2004 6:12:49 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok Oct 30, 2004 6:13:04 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: I try to do by monday but may not include the complete one other I need to write up the process Oct 30, 2004 6:13:17 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: after we combined all together Oct 30, 2004 6:13:19 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: any more questions ? i will send an email in a few minutes Oct 30, 2004 6:13:38 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: don't send me uncomplete one Oct 30, 2004 6:13:39 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok Oct 30, 2004 6:13:52 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: if you can sutowo, but dont worry if you're too busy with other assignment Oct 30, 2004 6:14:10 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok...just send me your part completed one Oct 30, 2004 6:14:16 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: not entirely incomplete but how about the process of your implementation part Oct 30, 2004 6:14:21 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: I will combined it together Oct 30, 2004 6:14:33 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: everybody send to me ok Oct 30, 2004 6:14:56 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: all right Oct 30, 2004 6:14:59 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: ok, bye for now Oct 30, 2004 6:15:13 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: try to target to send you on mon Oct 30, 2004 6:15:22 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: faster better Oct 30, 2004 6:15:36 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: ok than... Oct 30, 2004 6:15:40 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: see u guys on wednesday Oct 30, 2004 6:15:48 PM EST
SUSANNA MANN: ok Oct 30, 2004 6:16:01 PM EST
Pascal Grosvenor: yep, thanks Oct 30, 2004 6:16:01 PM EST
Sutowo Suriadi: need to go.....bye2..... Oct 30, 2004 6:16:04 PM EST