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FAQ about Jan Drew's advertizing for quackery ********************************************* Updated, January, 24th., 2004 Hello, In misc.health.alternative and other news-groups a person who calls himself Jan Drew, is massively advertizing quackery. 1. List of Web-Sites Jan Drew is advertizing for 2. Nicknames and persons involved in the Jan Drew scam 3. Cui bono ? Mercola disguises as "Jan Drew" 4. Jan Drew confesses his forgeries 5. A look at Jan Drew's list of lies with URLs (internet links) 6. Jan Drew works for Scientology 7. Jan Drew works for Hulda Clark 8. "$KaChing is Working!!" 9. "The Importance of Mass Name Calling" 10. Deadly fraud in the healthcare system 11. Jan Drew and the Attack on the WTC, 12. Jan Drew's Antisemitism 13. The "Jew boy" case 14. Jan Drew Lied About Having Mercury Poisoning from Amalgams 15. The foul language of Jan Drew 16. Jan Drew's rhetorical warfare 17. Children die because of criminals like Jan Drew 1. List of Web-Sites Jan Drew is advertizing for ################################################ [naturopath mafia-based] http://www.800ga.com/parasites.htm http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mecfs/general/parasites.html http://www.all-natural.com/holistic.html http://www.yourhealthbase.com/alternative_medicine.html http://www.doctortalk.com/cancer_&_oxygen.php http://www.alternativemedicine.com/digest/issue22/i22-a12.shtml http://thinktwice.com/ploys.htm http://www.healingwithnutrition.com/cdisease/cardiovascular/vitce.html http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/chelation%20bill.htm http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/Healthology/sept11HS_508939AlternativeCancerTreatments020910.html http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 http://www.aznetnews.com/story.php?storyid=375 http://www.hospitalsantamonica.com/id45.htm http://www.holistic-dentistry.com/artamalgam.asp http://www.hugnet.com/protocol.html http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surgery.com/data/articles/63.htm http://www.mercola.com http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net [Scientology-based articles] http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2000/04/16/loc_drugging_our_kids.html http://www.antipsychiatry.org/drsmith1.htm (List will be updated) 2. Nicknames and persons involved in the Jan Drew scam ###################################################### Nicknames and names of persons who help Jan Drew in his scam, or perhaps are nothing but other masks of Mercola : "Dave" <[email protected]> "Rod" <[email protected]> "Teacher" <[email protected]> "David" <[email protected]> "ChuckMSRD" [email protected] "Anth" <[email protected]> "soft-eng" <[email protected]> This list will be updated. Note: ALL supporters of Jan Drew will be entered in this list ! Keep in mind these very true words : On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:10:32 GMT, Rich<,@.> wrote in misc.health.alternative : <quote> [...] There is one positive aspect of having Jan Drew post here though; if someone supports her then you can be sure that this person cannot be trusted either. Anyone who reads Jan Drew's bigoted, hateful and dishonest posts and supports her tells you much about their own integrity. And you can be reasonably certain that Jan Drew is reading all the posts of the people she claims that she has kill filed. The only reason that she kill files people is to give her plausible deniability in her failure to reconcile her contradictory statements that are frequently brought up to her. </quote> 3. Cui bono ? ############## A strong clue on who is responsible for the criminal deeds are the connections to those who cash in the money. Mercola and Klinghardt are known charlatans. Jan Drew advertizes for them. But Jan Drew does more than that ! A posting from Jan Drew into news:misc.health.alternative impressively demonstrates the background : <quote> Lines: 40 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 29 Aug 2003 20:19:06 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Told Message-ID: <[email protected]> Xref: news.freenet.de misc.health.alternative:313197 >Subject: Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Told >From: "Anth" [email protected] >Date: 8/29/2003 1:26 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >She does? >Anth > >"Happy Oyster" <[email protected]> wrote in message >> Jan Drew abuses the works of honorable scientists. Jan Drew mixes up >> true facts with naturopath nonsense and this way forces people to buy >> quackery. >> >> Jan Drew walks over bodies. Don't let them be yours! Well now, that fits right in with the greatest lie ever told. I posted a website. I mixed nothing, I abused nothing, I adsvertize nothing, I have never forced people to do anything. Happy is the liar, making all kinds of false statements When in fact it tells on the website, the many works of different researchers. Dr. Vimy holds the rank of Clinical Associate Professor, Department of Medicine, Faculty of Medicine at the University of Calgary Dr. Vimy is one of the top mercury researchers in the world and his comments to the ADA press release are most informative. You can review the article I published with Dr. Klinghardt earlier this year for further information on mercury detoxification. Jan The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein </quote> Jan Drew writes IN HIS OWN WORDS, with himself as the center person of the text : <quote> When in fact it tells on the website, the many works of different researchers. Dr. Vimy holds the rank of Clinical Associate Professor, Department of Medicine, Faculty of Medicine at the University of Calgary Dr. Vimy is one of the top mercury researchers in the world and his comments to the ADA press release are most informative. You can review the article I published with Dr. Klinghardt earlier this year for ************************************************************* +++ further information on mercury detoxification. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jan </quote> So Jan Drew published an article together with Klinghardt. Now, WHO IS "JAN DREW" !? A clue can be found by searching for news postings by Jan Drew containing the word "Klinghardt", dated "earlier this year". We find a posting dated "09 Feb 2003 00:29:57 GMT" : (Underlign marks made by me.) <quote> X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 09 Feb 2003 00:29:57 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Mercury Toxicity Message-ID: <[email protected]> http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm Mercury Toxicity and Systemic Elimination Agents The following paper has been a long time in the making. I first wrote it nearly three years ago and it was initially rejected by the Lancet and the British Medical Journal but was published last month in the Journal of Nutritional and Environmental Medicine (March 2001). The end of the article has the bibliography which took quite awhile to compile and has 124 of the best literature documentation I could find on mercury detoxification. For a practical summary of the paper and exactly what one should do, please review my mercury detoxification protocol. Dr. Klinghardt is widely recognized as one of the most ************** knowledgeable physicians in mercury detoxification and it was a ******** privilege to be able to help him with this paper. ************************************************* <quote> Jan Drew (remember the "I" !) here completely copies an article --- written by Mercola TOGETHER with Klinghardt. This article is "on mercury detoxification". So we can strongly say that "Jan Drew" actually is Mercola. Mercola is writing masses of articles, and he pours out an enourmous mass of advertizing for his charlatan comrades, boosting his and their sales... 4. Jan Drew confesses his forgeries ################################### In the following posting Jan Drew confesses to have taken someone else's words and posted them in the net as his, Jan Drew's, own words : <quote> Path: news.freenet.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!easynews.net!newsfeed3.easynews.net!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 28 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 18 Nov 2003 04:13:48 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Jan Drew is a forger Message-ID: <[email protected]> >From: Happy Oyster [email protected] >Date: 11/17/2003 4:17 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> Happy is not playing with a full deck. As anyone can see this bit about me being Mercola is absurd. http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/18/ada.htm <snip> DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: Dr. Vimy is one of the top mercury researchers in the world and his comments to the ADA press release are most informative. You can review the article I published with Dr. Klinghardt earlier this year for further information on mercury detoxification. Thanks to Jeff Green of Citizens for Health for sending this very interesting timeline regarding the dental use of mercury. Took 16 seconds to find it. I have posted it previously. Jan Rich is a cyberstalker and he has been stalking Jan for a long time. John Bain </quote> So, for all to see, Jan Drew confesses to have taken Mercola's words, and to have have posted them as his, Jan Drew's very own words. Do not forget the "I", by which Jan Drew makes these words HIS VERY OWN. 5. A look at Jan Drew's list of lies with URLs (internet links) ############################################################### A great deal of Jan Drew's postings are lists of URLs (internet links to web-pages). Jan Drew selects those pages and only takes those which seed fear and hatred against scientific medicine. Jan Drew defames scientific medicine as "Evil Organized Medizine". In a posting of november 5th., 2003, Dr. Steve shows what such a list really contains : <quote> From: "Dr. Steve" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 3rd Opinion - Root Canal Question Message-ID: <r9hqb.7825$P%[email protected]> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 01:07:35 GMT . "Ja," <[email protected]> wrote in message > >If jdrmmm,,,,[email protected] (Jan) responds you may wish to consider the source. > > I wasn't going to respond, but now that this has been said, do consider the > source and see the source of each website. > > http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm A site making money on people's fear of Hg poisoning. Just a dental office in Nepal. > http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm An Australian dentist with a really bad wig. Trying to make money on people's fear of Hg poisoning. > http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html A letter written to Dr. Huggins, with no proof it was ever mailed. The dental links on the home page lead to a Dr. Nara's web page. They sell books on th evils of Hg in dentistry. > http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html Web page of Dr. Shankland who is selling books. He likes to quote Dr. Price's research from 1918 and ignore all the research since then. > http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm An anedotal report by some lay-person who bought a book by Dr. Meinig and hopes you will buy one his books too. > http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm A web site that just sells a book. > http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ An advertisement for Melisa Medica Foundation selling (guess what?) disguised as some unfortunate souls suffering personal story. > http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html Advertisement for the Blazing Tattles Newsletteer (they sell this) once again disquised as a story. > http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm Another advertisement for Dr. Meining's book. > http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm Another link to the Nepal dental office. > http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html Dr, Meining again. > http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Link to a dental office with a legal disclaimer section two pages long > http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html A link to asome guy's dental office who has no idea of current dental thinking. > http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html Guess what? A site to sell books. > http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm This guy is selling a special diet. > http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Link to a dental office in the UK which sells,,,,,,,,,,,, did you guess? A BOOK!!!! Now I see why I prefer to filter ja. dre.. posts PLEASE, any lay people reading this, understand this lady/man/posting program refered to as ja. dre. and a bunch of numbers reminiscent of Disney's Stitch character,,,,,, lies,,,, and tries to get you to spoil your health and spend all your money on bogus treatment which NOT improve your health in any way. </quote> 6. Jan Drew works for Scientology ################################# This is one of the examples where you can see, how Jan Drew defends Scientology. Jan Drew CLAIMS to be interested in naturopathy, but actually Jan Drew is an advertizing agency. Jan Drew's behavior is typical for this breed... Example 1: <quote> X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 21 Sep 2003 00:40:47 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: "Psychbusters" = CCHR = $cientology Cult FRONT Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: "Psychbusters" = CCHR = $cientology Cult FRONT >From: Nomen Nescio [email protected] >Date: 9/20/2003 1:20 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >$cientology member ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz </quote> Example 2: <quote> X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 22 Sep 2003 02:51:58 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Scientology's advertising in these newsgroups Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Scientology's advertising in these newsgroups >From: [email protected] (Fredric L. Rice) >Date: 9/21/2003 12:33 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz </quote> Example 3: <quote> X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 22 Sep 2003 02:53:00 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: What is $cientology? - A posting by an ex-member to answer reports of recent Scientology postings Message-ID: <[email protected]> > What is $cientology? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ </quote> Example 4: <quote> From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 06 Oct 2003 05:29:16 GMT References: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Committee On House Reform - ADHD Drugs Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Committee On House Reform - ADHD Drugs >From: Peter Bowditch [email protected] >Date: 10/5/2003 9:10 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >[email protected] (Jan) wrote: > >>TESTIMONY BY LISA MARIE PRESLEY INTERNATIONAL SPOKESPERSON >> FOR CHILDREN'S RIGHTS, FOR CITIZENS COMMISSION ON HUMAN RIGHTS >INTERNATIONAL > >A Scientologist appearing on behalf of a Scientology front group. Now >that's something you don't see every day. Umm, you are seeing ADHD hearings. Listen up, rather than the same ole same ole of the Scientology excuses. You are an intolerant fascist bigot. </quote> So far for the simple cases. And now look at this one !: (Underligns with "*" by me.) <quote> Lines: 59 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 07 Jan 2004 03:33:20 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Citizens Commission on Human Rights wins award Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Citizens Commission on Human Rights wins award >From: Peter Bowditch [email protected] >Date: 1/6/2004 3:51 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >[email protected] (Ria) wrote: > >>> Just in case you think that Jan has been honestly snipping here, this >>> is what she is replying to. Obviously, Hubbard's ideas about Jesus are >>> something which Jan feels require no comment. >> >>Peter, if you bring in irrelevant issues like that then it just proves Jan's >point. > >Jan continually (almost continuously) brings up the matter of my >religious beliefs and suggests that I am directly instructed by Satan. Nope, only when you start saying hate filled ridiculous things, lke John delights in seeing kids die. >For some reason my religious beliefs matter to her, but those of >Hubbard do not. I promised to mention Hubbard's opinion about Jesus >whenever Jan uses Scientology to attack the use of psychiatric drugs. Complete hogwash. I could hardly use anything I know nothing about. ********************************************************************* I keep see Scientology used as a scrap goat in many discussions. I ********************************************************************* have no knowledge of what they believe and really don't care. ********************************************************************* >If what I believe matters and affects what I say about medicine It does indeed. > then she must accept that what Hubbard believes also informs his medical opinions. Nope, I don't accept things, I know nothing about and don't care to. For some reason Scientology keeps popping up in the discussions here, must be used as an excuse to accept organized medicine brainwashing. > Millions of children die each year from vaccine-preventable diseases, >>> but Jan calls it belittling when I try to stop this happening by >>> pointing out the lies of people who oppose vaccination. >> That would be a opinion. >>As opposed to this argument, where you use logic. <snip the real reason Peter replies to these kind of posts, to belittle and insult> Repeatedly. Must be a sad life to be so negative and have a desire to always be putting others down. Jan </quote> The crucial part : <quote> >For some reason my religious beliefs matter to her, but those of >Hubbard do not. I promised to mention Hubbard's opinion about Jesus >whenever Jan uses Scientology to attack the use of psychiatric drugs. Complete hogwash. I could hardly use anything I know nothing about. I keep see Scientology used as a scrap goat in many discussions. I have no knowledge of what they believe and really don't care. </quote> So Jan Drew does not care. But he defends. Defends with all his power. To defend against all proof. Is Jan Drew that crazy a psychpoath or is Jan Drew that crazy a pure criminal ? Either way, Jan Drew is a danger to anybody and must be kept off the internet. 7. Jan Drew works for Hulda Clark ################################# In a posting dated november, 16th, 2003, Jan Drew advertizes for Hulda Clark, a known criminal charlatan. The "zapper" does not kill bacteria. The claims by Jan Drew are outrageous lies. <quote> Lines: 47 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 16 Nov 2003 07:00:50 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Zapper kills infectious bacteria Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Zapper kills infectious bacteria >From: "f��� R�dicaL" [email protected] >Date: 11/15/2003 10:52 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >Hi all. I'd like to report that I've used a zapper for a few years now and >it does seem to work on infectious bacteria, based on my experience. > >I originally built a zapper (I have a degree in electrical engineering) from >Radio Shack parts using the plans in Hulda Clark's book. I tried it for >awhile to kill intestinal parasites and then stopped using it. A few years >later I developed a high fever with a serious left ear infection to the >point where I could feel pressure on the ear drum. I decided to try the >zapper. I ran it for about 10 minutes holding the copper electrodes in my >hands. About an hour later, green pus started coming out of my left tear >duct. Obviously, the bacteria in the ear or tear duct were dying in great >numbers, creating the resultant pus which was forced out the tear duct. This >alarmed me (I didn't completely trust the zapper at that point) and ran to >the doctor for antibiotics, to be on the safe side. > >I have since used a zapper whenever I feel a fever or scratchy throat coming >on, or when a lot of people are getting sick at the office. Typically the >fever/scratchy throat is gone overnight after using it. It still takes some >time to get over the feeling of being sick, but at least the zapper keeps >the infection under control so I don't need to run to the doctor anymore for >antibiotics. For me the worst part of being sick is the fever, which the >zapper seems to break very quickly. > >Does anyone else (besides the usual anti-quackers) in this group have >anything of interest to report about using a zapper? I suggest the skeptics >build or buy one and try it on themselves before dismissing it outright. BTW >I don't have any financial interest in Hulda Clark or any zapper-related >products. Yes, my hubby built one, then later I bought one that clips on to free up your hands. It works for most any condition you feel coming on. It works for parasites just as she says, it also works on my doggy. I also have no financial interest, however I do know Hulda personally, as her son was in my daycare years ago. She may be wrong about some things, she is 100% correct about the teeth. She is a loving and caring very fine person. You may be attacked, ignore them. Jan Rich is a cyberstalker and he has been stalking Jan for a long time. John Bain </quote> And Jan Drew continues with libelling and defaming his critics. As I said above, the "zapper" does not kill bacteria. The claims by Jan Drew are outrageous lies. The FTC states in http://www.ftc.gov/os/2003/01/drclarkcmp.htm <quote> DEFENDANTS' VIOLATIONS OF THE FTC ACT 13. Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. � 45(a), prohibits deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce. Section 12(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. � 52(a), prohibits the dissemination of any false advertisement in or affecting commerce for the purpose of inducing, or which is likely to induce, the purchase of food, drugs, devices or cosmetics. As set forth below, defendants have engaged and are continuing to engage in such unlawful practices in connection with the marketing and sale of various products, including the Super-Zapper Deluxe, Syncrometer, the Dr. Clark's New 21 Day Program for Advanced Cancers, and the Complete Herbal Parasite Program, (also called the Herbal Parasite Cleanse). 14. Through their advertising and promotional materials, including, but not limited to, the representations set forth in Paragraph 12, above, and through the use of their Internet websites, "www.drclark.net" and "www.drclark.com" defendants have represented expressly or by implication that: a. Use of the Super-Zapper Deluxe is effective to kill bacteria, viruses and parasites in the human body; b. Use of the Super-Zapper Deluxe is effective against chronic infections, cancer and Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome (AIDS); c. The Super-Zapper Deluxe and the Complete Herbal Parasite Program, are effective to cure all forms of cancer in humans; d. Dr. Clark's New 21 Day Program for Advanced Cancers is effective to cure all forms of cancer in humans; e. Dr. Clark's New 21 Day Program for Advanced Cancers has cured numerous people with advanced cases of cancer; f. The Syncrometer device is more accurate than the best testing methods at diagnosing all forms of disease; g. The Syncrometer device can detect the presence of any substance at specific points in the human body. h. The Super-Zapper Deluxe, used together with the Complete Herbal Parasite Program, is effective to cure AIDS; i. The Super-Zapper Deluxe, used together with the Complete Herbal Parasite Program and avoidance of pollutants, is effective to cure diabetes, multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's, endometriosis, asthma and many other diseases. j. Dr. Clark's New 21 Day Program for Advanced Cancers and Super-Zapper Deluxe, when used by persons with cancer, make surgery and chemotherapy unnecessary. 15. Defendants did not possess and rely upon a reasonable basis that substantiated the representations set forth in Paragraph 14, above, at the time the representations were made. Therefore, the making of the representations set forth in Paragraph 14, above, is deceptive and constitutes false advertising for a food, drug or device, in violation of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. �� 45(a), 52 and 55. CONSUMER INJURY 16. As a result of defendants' unlawful acts or practices, consumers throughout the United States have suffered and continue to suffer monetary loss and possible injuries to their health. Defendants also have been unjustly enriched as a result of their unlawful practices. Absent injunctive relief by this Court, the defendants are likely to continue to injure consumers, reap unjust enrichment and harm the public interest. THIS COURT'S POWER TO GRANT RELIEF 17. Section 13(b) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. � 53(b), authorizes this Court to grant injunctive and other equitable relief, including consumer redress, disgorgement and restitution, to prevent and remedy any violations of any provision of law enforced by the Commission. </quote> The full text is too long to include it in this usenet posting. Here a detail, found in http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html : <quote> The FTC's case was supported by three lengthy affidavits that dissected and thoroughly debunked Hulda Clark's theories and treatments. Among other things: Aron Primack, M.D., a cancer specialist who is Associate Professor of Preventive Medicine and Biometrics at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Maryland, stated that, Hulda Clark's books "do not provide competent and reliable evidence" to support her claims [19]. --> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clarkaff/primack.html Peter W. Pappas, Ph.D., a prominent parasitologist and Professor Emeritis at the Ohio State University, stated (a) although cancer and AIDS are found worldwide, the parasite Clark blames for them is limited to South East Asia; (b) "Clark's 'case histories' represent an egregious example of a highly biased experimental protocol, and her theories are based on bad science"; and (c) "She clearly does not have a basic understanding of the most fundamental parasitological principles." [20] --> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clarkaff/pappas.html Joseph Pizzorno, N.D., the nation's top naturopath, stated that, "No research is presented demonstrating that the Zapper has any physiological effects, let alone ability to kill parasites or cure cancer. The claim that mild electrical shocks to the skin can eliminate intestinal parasites is, frankly, preposterous." [21] --> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clarkaff/pizzorno.html </quote> As you can see, Hulda Clark is a criminal. The Hulda Clark sales company was sentenced because of the zapper stuff, the very same zapper stuff Jan Drew in his posting claims to work. So, for all clear to see : Jan Drew supports a criminal, AND Jan Drew even tells the very same ****************************************************************** lies the US Court has expressively forbidden. ********************************************* Here is one more piece of proof that Jan Drew EXPRESSIS VERBIS (!!!) advertizes for Hulda Clark products : <quote> Lines: 19 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 28 Dec 2003 19:51:16 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Teeth - how do I make them whiter? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Xref: news.freenet.de misc.health.alternative:332168 >Subject: Teeth - how do I make them whiter? >From: "Anth" [email protected] >Date: 12/27/2003 12:06 PM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >Any ideas what I can use to whiten my teeth? >I thought of using bi-carb - but that is abrasive and it will thin the >enamel down. >There's also jell packs which I was thinking of trying but these are >expensive and cumbersome. >Thanks >Anth I use Oregano tooth powder and liquid Peroxy, (both products from Hulda Clark) works great. http://www.DrClarkStore.com Jan </quote> 8. Rich Shewmaker: "$KaChing is Working!!" ########################################## In his posting Rich Shewmaker explains some of the backgounds of the "$KaChing"... <quote> From: "Rich Shewmaker" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: $KaChing is Working!! Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:47:29 -1000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Quackwatch Ratbags July $100* $70 August 38 20 September 28 10 *donation capped -- actual "LIAR" count was 132 For the newcomers who don't know what $KaChing is, at the beginning of July, I proposed donating $1 to Quackwatch every time Jan called someone here a LIAR. Her nasty habit of shouting LIAR at everyone who disagrees with her was becoming annoying to me, and, since this is an unmoderated newsgroup where freedom of speech applies, the only way to change this behavior was to use behavior modification. There are no channels of positive reinforcement available, so punishment seemed the most effective approach. Jan has expressed her hatred of Dr. Barrett and his Quackwatch website repeatedly, thus my plan to apply a mild punishment for her behavior. The problem is that, unlike positive reinforcement that can be effective with a variable schedule, punishment must be consistently meted with every infraction. Thus, the one dollar sting. A few days later, I added a $5 sting donation to Ratbags for every time Jan brought up the tragic death of a child to accuse Peter B. of something or other, though I've never understood just how Jan's warped brain connected him with that case and assigned the guilt. Anyway, as the figures above show, the program seems to be effective. Jan even got through the September Ritalin wars without maxing out the Quackwatch donation. If $KaChing continues to be effective, I may add a $1 "insomnia fine" for every time Jan does her childish "ZZZZzzzz" response. See you next month, and thank you Mark Thorson and any others who are participating. </quote> 9. "The Importance of Mass Name Calling" ######################################## Jan Drew displays a fine moral. Allways nice, allways polite, always helpfull. Unless... the truth shows up. Persons who show the real backgrounds of Jan Drew, oh, they are REAL BAD. Jan Drew uses foul language, and says that some of his critics are connected with Satan. Here is a collection by which Jan Drew shows his real face...: <quote> Path: news.freenet.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.stueberl.de!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 40 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 10 Nov 2003 06:03:05 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Importance of Mass Name Calling Message-ID: <[email protected]> Xref: news.freenet.de misc.health.alternative:325036 Rich Shewmaker who has no integrity, He doesn't give a damn if all the debunkers lie. Richard H Jacobson, proven liar, badgerer, stalker and sad human excuse of a human being. Andrew Kingoff who hides behing the fake name of IIsa. Likes to deconstruct others, has a fetish for steaming bags of feces, and pounding of sand up one's ass. Peter Bowditch who isn't man of his words and a proven liar. David Wright, grump of the year whose intent is to make others angry. DC Sessions who acts like a spoiled brat. Ted Nidiffer, who hides behing the name NanaWeedkiller, lackey for Barrett. Mark Thorson who repeats himself several times a day. Known liar who has to make retractions, another lackey for Barrett. Mark MD whose hobby is to annoy. Mark Probert, all of the above. WB and Dickinson both trolls. Joel Eichen who needs his mercury level checked, acts like a chicken with it's head off. Aribert Deckers, no words to describe this loon. A sad sorry *dishonest* bunch. Who ALL have EGO problems, push drugs and overlook all needless deaths mistakes and FRAUD within organized medicine. That's a FACT, Jack. </quote> Now, keep in mind, that Jan Drew claims to have owned a child care center. Would you ever give a child to a person of such paranoid behavior...? 10. Deadly fraud in the healthcare system ######################################### Jan Drew, for his crime is abusing efforts of Shawn Korrami and other honest fighters against dental amalgam. Jan Drew is lying by mixing up true facts with snake-oil dealer lies. This is the way Jan Drew is disguising his real intention : to advertize quackery in large scale. Jan Drew is an unscrupulous liar and is misleading ill people into misery. Here is just one example of what can happen to one who believes "persons" like Jan Drew : <quote> Betroffene berichten "Leben" mit Amalgam-Vergiftung - und andere Dinge im Umgang mit �rzten - 7 6.1.2002 * (A20106) Allzuleicht verlassen sich Kranke auf Behauptungen Anderer. Manche bezahlen diese Gutgl�ubigkeit mit dem Leben. Gerade noch mit dem Leben davongekommen, aber schwerkrank ist der arme Mann, der mir erlaubt hat, seine Bitte um Hilfe zu ver�ffentlichen. Falls jemand etwas wei�, das ihm helfen kann: BITTE MELDEN SIE SICH! Ill people too often believe in what others say. Many pay for this with their life. Having survived but severly ill, a poor man sent me this email and allowed me to publish his request for help. Aribert Deckers ************************************************************************** DMSA and the DMSA-Hg complex half-life, and the normal values. Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 Hi! I was looking for S. Emerson's old page - and found your mirror. If you know his present e-mail address please forward that message quoted below to him. I would also be grateful if you would reply to that letter as well. Thank you! (Name) ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Hi! I hope that you remeber my e-mail from October 1999. I am sorry for such a long silence, but the enormity of the disasters in my family in recent years is just incredible. I lost finaly my job due to the illness, and I got cerebral haemorhage on the 1st of June 2000 - for four weeks doctors were not sure if I survive, but I am still alive as you see. I got that cerebral haemorrage during taking of DMSA. Who knows maybe it was involved in it? I found on that page http://www.altcorp.com/hgtoxicity.htm an information that DMSA can cause thrombocystosis. I was taking DMSA produced by Fluka as a chemical reagent (>98% pure). Medical pills of DMSA were rather too expensive for me. I felt worse than usually when taking DMSA - is that normal reaction? I keep my urine samples (gathered when taking DMSA) frozen in photografic film plastic containers. I would like to measure Hg level in it, but they (a lab in Lodz, Poland) want to charge me for every container as for completely separated analysis, so I have to choose just a few samples (3 or maybe 5 samples) for analysis to reduce my expenses. They would measure it by AAS cold vapours technique. I don't know what is metabolism and half-life of DMSA and DMSA-Hg complex in our organisms, so I am not sure which samples to choose for analysis. Maybe you could help me? I am attaching a word file with a table indicating when and how much DMSA I took, and when urine samples were taken. On the last page in that file is also a copy of my CAT scan. Do you know what values of Hg are considered normal and what high in urine *when taking DMSA*? I would be grateful if you would provide me with that data. I am now on 1 year of temporary pension due to the cerebral heamorrahage, though I have been already not able to work earlier due to Hg vapours poisoning in the lab with severe CFIDS/ME like symptoms. This year also my grandmother had a stroke (we don't even know for sure whether that was a bleeding stroke or not, because doctors here stint on doing CAT scans or MRI for elderly people), and she became left side paralysed. My mother is also not well, having very strong headaches. We both being ill have to take care alone about my paralysed grandmother - it is very exhausting, and often we also cannot sleep at night because of her (she often doesn't sleep all night long talking often without much sense to herself - that's another result of the stroke). Doctors here are not helpful at all, they would rather want us all to die, so that we would not bother them again. And what are the conditions and treatment in our hospitals is a subject for yet another long horror story. We just live in hell on Earth. We would like to move out from here to another country, but that's not easy without any help from outside. I'll better finish here. Hope to hear from you soon. Best wishes [Name) ------ End of forwarded message ------- * hier geht's weiter ! [ Das Amalgam-Zentrum ] Copyright � 2000 - 2002 Aribert Deckers and Copyright � 2000 - 2002 Antares Real-Estate Jegliche Weiterverwendung der Texte der Amalgam-Page ist verboten. Verlage d�rfen sich wegen der Nachdruckrechte per Email an mich wenden. Aribert Deckers </quote> People like Jan Drew are responsible for the fate of victims like this ill man. Jan Drew is a damned shame for the human race. 11. Jan Drew and the Attack on the WTC, ####################################### Jan Drew's Antisemitism ####################################### In a posting, dated november, 12th. 2003, Mr. Rich shows Jan Drew's antisemitism : <quote> From: Rich<,@.> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: Jan Drew, lowest of lows (Was Re: A message to a sick son of a bitch.!) Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:28:50 GMT On 12 Nov 2003 03:57:07 GMT, [email protected] (Jan) wrote: >Sadly, his enablers will be right along. > >It matters not to them how low one is, they defend each others, as in: Jan is one to talk about how low one can go defend her enablers. The following is an antisemitic rant made by one of Jan's enablers. Read the post and then read Jan's comment following it if you want to read the lowest of lows: Debbee1023 says: >>I am beginning to think there are dentists who are among those who are paid >>to >>talk against the anti-amalgam campaign, and I am beginning to wonder which >>ethnic group of people owns those dental supply businesses? I understand there >>is one large ethnic group that pushes their "people" into the medical field, >>and those that cannot stand the sight of blood end up as lobbyists, teachers, >>politicians, entertainers, etc., and that anyone that goes against "their thinking" is ridiculed. The problem being, I am beginning to think all of >>thismuch to do about nothing in the field of alternative medicine is all true about >>this particular heritage, and maybe a certain European leader was right long >time ago. > >>The "almighty" dollar is the most important material object in this culture's >>life. Not all of the people connected, are of that nature, but I'm beginning >>to understand why the attacks on the U.S. were planned on the cities that were >>chosen. >>It's not just alternative medicine that has been attempted to be >>hijacked...it >>all because of pure GREED, that has some of these people so possessed, >>that they feel they are OWED for something that happened years AGO. Instead >>of >>"getting over it", like most people do, that have been abused, they keep >>abusing others that are not of that culture, in an attempt to "even the >>score." > Jan the despicable antisemite agrees: >Yes, it does appear that way, along with the ole EGO thingie. > >Jan So there you have it. Jan Drew agrees with Hitler's plan to exterminate millions of Jews simply because of their religion. And Jan Drew calls herself a Christian. Lord have mercy. What would Jesus (a jew) have to say about Jan Drew endorsing someone who said that Hitler was right about the Jews. Jan may find out on judgment day. Aloha, Rich > ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ The best defense to logic is ignorance. </quote> 12. The "Jew boy" case ####################### Trying to find the original posting by Jan Drew with his attacks, calling someone "jew boy", I found 2 postings missing in my "Agent" archive file. Seems as if somebody cancelled them before I could download them with "Agent" in those days. I do not know, who is responsible for these postings being cancelled, but I think, that pieces of proof like these should be made public. So, I herewith to public show these 2 pieces of proof, as can be found with Google : <quote> Lines: 30 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 02 May 2002 19:59:32 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Doctor Syndromes Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Doctor Syndromes >From: [email protected] (Ilsa Nein) >Date: 5/2/02 11:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >>If you have Fibromyalgia, then you have one of these Syndromes too! >> >> >>LAZY DOCTOR SYNDROME >> ><Snip> > >Perhaps, Bubba, folks who believe they have one of these "syndromes" should >see >an alternative medical practitioner. Those so afflicted should consider >consulting their yellow pages for an Acupuncturist near them. Please stay clear of Southern Acupuncture Inc. I.L.S.A. 1403 Audubon Blvd. #1A Wilmington, NC 910-799-5777 Jan </quote> <quote> Lines: 54 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 04 May 2002 04:35:36 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Doctor Syndromes Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Doctor Syndromes >From: [email protected] (Ilsa Nein) >Date: 5/3/02 8:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >>>Subject: Re: Doctor Syndromes >>>From: [email protected] (Ilsa Nein) >>>Date: 5/2/02 11:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time >>>Message-id: <[email protected]> >>> >>>>If you have Fibromyalgia, then you have one of these Syndromes too! >>>> >>>> >>>>LAZY DOCTOR SYNDROME >>>> >>><Snip> >>> >>>Perhaps, Bubba, folks who believe they have one of these "syndromes" should >>>see >>>an alternative medical practitioner. Those so afflicted should consider >>>consulting their yellow pages for an Acupuncturist near them. >> >>Please stay clear of >> >>Southern Acupuncture Inc. >> >> I.L.S.A. >> >>1403 Audubon Blvd. #1A >> >>Wilmington, NC >> >>910-799-5777 >> >>Jan >> > >Jan, quit shilling, it is against the MHA 10 Commandments. Little do you know anything about the *10 Commandments* Jew Boy. Please stay clear of Southern Acupuncture Inc. I.L.S.A. 1403 Audubon Blvd. #1A Wilmington, NC 910-799-5777 </quote> 13. Jan Drew, the stalker ######################### The work of Jan Drew consists of several parts : - to seed hatred against scientific medicine - to make people believe that naturopath stuff works - to make people believe that they should jump on the alledged band-waggon of naturopathy - seed fear - to advertizing in large scale for naturopath web-sites But as there are critics, Jan Drew is faced with critic. How does Jan Drew deal with critic ? Does Jan Drew bring real facts ? No. Of course not. Why not ? Because what Jan Drew advertizes for is bogus stuff, like the "Hulda Clark Zapper" (see in this FAQ). So, Jan Drew uses several rhetorical tricks, like : - Jan Drew does not answer. - Jan Drew dumps tons of rubbish into the usenet to drown people. - Jan Drew asks questions which are not part of the discussion. - Jan Drew claims to have people killfiled, so that he could not have seen their critic. Mr. Mark Probert has blown that foul defence to pieces by using new names and email addresses every other day. - Jan Drew insults. - Jan Drew lies. - Jan Drew brings up personal affairs of critics. Like he criticises that "Rich has never mentioned having a real job or family" the last point is one of many which can be seen in the following posting by Jan Drew : On 27 Dec 2003 01:36:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jan) wrote: <quote> Lines: 77 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 27 Dec 2003 01:36:27 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Why Is Richard H Jacobson Obsessed wth Jan? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Xref: news.freenet.de misc.health.alternative:331954 I thought I would begin a discussion about the dynamics of Rich's obsession with Jan. It is pretty obvious that he wants to demonize Jan as he obsessively posts his diagnosis of her, which is nothing new as he has a long pattern of the same with others. Of course any efforts to discuss whether Jan had Mercury Poisoning and Peripheral Neuropathy will be met with personal insults. Funny how Rich believes Jan has PN but not MP. So instead of trying to discuss this issue with Richard H Jacobson I thought I would share my thoughts about the dynamics behind his obsession. Wonder why he lies about his name? Wonder why he could never answer Bubba's questions? Wonder why Ka&g ended up in his killfile. (for those who don't know, she had a nack of putting him in his place and he can't stand that) Rich has never mentioned having a real job or family, it is known he leads nukie hikes and by his own admission he watches others do what comes naturally. Perhaps he has sexual problems, that might explain his obsessive hatred. He must be jealous of other people's happy families and sexual fullfillment as he must settle for just watching. I caution people not to trust the perceptions of Richard H Jacobson He has a big axe to grind with anyone who has used alternative medicine with success. He badgers them, asked for their medical records and states any success is placebo. He calls thems liars, while he lies. He is so ate up with his obsession, he will make comments using ill and even dead parents to belittle the person. Other times he belittle them by using their husband. I speculate that Richard H Jacobson has had many problems dealing with close relationships and fear something in his childhood has left it's mark on him. Therefore, he transferees his every weakness to others. and has an insane drive to put others down, perhaps to build himself up because of low self esteem, The reason he had these problems is because of the nature of his psychopathology. However his narcissism will not permit him to even consider that he may have had some role in his dysfunctional family as a child. So he blames others for many of the problems that he can not bring himself to deal with. He talks out of both sides of his mouth, showing his problems as he transferees them to others. So now in an effort to make his life in bearable, he constantly is diagnosing others while saying one should not diagnose over the net. Perhaps he flunked out of med school also?? His personality is so damaged he can't get along with others, so he has to settle for leading nudie hikes. His seems to be incapable of accepting personal responsibility for the failures, and incapabe of KNOWING WHEN TO SHUT UP. Wonder why he nuked his posts?? Wonder why he stated MHA was a discussion group, but HE prefered to talk about whether Jan had mercury poisoning. Why is that so important to him? Why is he still yacking about it three years later?? Is he looking for approval *here* because it is lacking in his life?? Wonder why he is so obsessed, he prays to Saint Jude that something will happen to Jan that will cause her to stop posting. Hmm, must be because he has FAILED at running her off, like he did so many. Jan PS: Ducking while awaiting Rich's gratuitous bashing of me by posting out of context statements from years ago that have absolutely nothing to do with anything other than Richard H Jacobson's narcissistic rage. ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ . </quote> Well, I did not take anything of Jan Drew's posting out of context. I show you the full posting as it can be found in the net. As it was written by Jan Drew. Be carefull dealing with Jan Drew. One of his tricks is to insult until the victim fights back by insulting. THESE insults Jan Drew then will point to, and claim that the victim is the REAL oppressor and attacker. You know what ?: That is a $cientology trick. As you can see in this FAQ, Jan Drew defends $cientology. Now count 1 + 1 together... Jan Drew advertizes for quackery which is sold by $cientologists. Now count 1 + 1 together... 15. Jan Drew Lied About Having Mercury Poisoning from Amalgams ############################################################## Are Jan Drew's claims true ? Here is a differing opinion. (I mounted the quotes with the original FULL texts included. Please note, that, by mounting the texts, the quotation marks differ.) <quote> From: Rich<,@.> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: Jan Drew Lied About Having Mercury Poisoning from Amalgams Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:43:19 GMT As regular readers of this newsgroup know, there is a poster Jan Drew who obsessively posts about how she nearly died of mercury poisoning secondary to amalgams. She claims that the removal of several amalgams saved her life. But Jan lied several times regarding her amalgam history in order to deceive others that she really had mercury poisoning when what she actually had was a deterioration in her preexisting illness (peripheral neuropathy) secondary to psychologic factors (worrying obsessively about having mercury poisoning due to reading about it in Hulda Clark book). She also had a dramatic improvement due to psychologic factors (relief that the removal of amalgams eliminated the mercury poisoning). Now Jan drew ADMITTED in HER OWN WORDS that the reason she went from thinking that she was dying of mercury poisoning one day and feeling better than she had the next day within hours of having some amalgams removed was completely due to relief. Now I will allow Jan Drew to tell you her in own words that her improvement was due to relief: Here are her exact words posted on June 18th, 1999 to usenet [QUOTE, mounted] >>I have been reading this thread. I have peripheral neuropathy. I have found a >>dentist (alternative) who knows that mercury amalgams are very dangerous. They >>can cause all manner of things. He will remove them and put in composities. I >>have just had 3/4 of mine remover. The others will come out in a few weeks, >>along with the one root canal, which will be extracted. > >>If an individual has read on this subject and is knowledgable, he will take >>care of you. > >>He has written "Tooth Truth and tells it like it is. He tells how the ADA has >>covered up this problem. > >>So, it is just a matter of finding the right dentist. He has people flying in >>from all over to get the work done. > >>I believe the mercury is the cause of my problems. I hav felt better today that >>I have in the last 2 years, and am looking forward to getting the rest of the >>mercury out and the root canal pulled. > >>Jan <quote, full original> http://www.google.de/groups?selm=19990618194417.11038.00000497%40ng-fm1.aol.com&output=gplain From: [email protected] (JDrew63929) Subject: Re: Any comments on this explanation for allergy? (yes, of course :) Date: 1999/06/18 Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1 References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: alt.health.dental-amalgam X-Admin: [email protected] >Hi Zugumba, > >You wrote: >>Actually, Joel is perfectly correct as far as things go in the US. > >You think he never sent a patient with a cold home to avoid catching it? > >>dentist can lose his license for treating a systemic illness > >What is really a systemic illness. Is that a disease that hits all systems >in the body or ' just ' a local condition with systemic (general) symptoms? >Or even one, or a few, distant symptoms? What is it really? > >In most cases it is the latter. And as dentists, even in the States, we >cannot avoid affecting the body conditons when treating mouth conditions. >The mouth IS a part of the body. And in many cases also the body's mirror. > >>If Joel determined that a patient was suffering from a migraine and not a >>dental abscess, his job stops there. He then is obligated to refer the >>patient to a neurologist. > >Okay, Let's say it is rather diffuse oro-facial pain. What would you do? > >>Similarly, removing amalgam restorations to treat a systemic illness >>(like multiple sclerosis) is considering treating an illness out of the >>scope of dental practice. > >What you really are talking about is indications. Id est; for what purpose >the dental treatment is performed. Sofar teeth are treated for the reason >of teeth, yes. One day (and it is emerging) dentists will learn that what >they do to one part of the body may effect other parts. I am not saying >that dental amalgam is the sole cause of MS. There are far closer relations >between classical systemic diseases and dental treatment, for exaple; >an aggrevated heart condition due to dental treatment, increased arterio- >sclerotic plaque formation, etc (not to mention all the iatrogenous TMJ:s) > >>After a certain point the patient has to be turned over to the correct >>medical practitioners to finish the job or to follow-up. > >That's a pretty obvious statement. Anyone would agree with that. And >it doesn't disprove what I wrote. > >>True, the line can be fuzzy, but most of the time it is pretty >>clear what range of ailments a dentist in the US can treat > >Submandibular lymphatic adenitis? May a dentist treat that - or not? In US? > >Hans I have been reading this thread. I have peripheral neuropathy. I have found a dentist (alternative) who knows that mercury amalgams are very dangerous. They can cause all manner of things. He will remove them and put in composities. I have just had 3/4 of mine remover. The others will come out in a few weeks, along with the one root canal, which will be extracted. If an individual has read on this subject and is knowledgable, he will take care of you. He has written "Tooth Truth and tells it like it is. He tells how the ADA has covered up this problem. So, it is just a matter of finding the right dentist. He has people flying in from all over to get the work done. I believe the mercury is the cause of my problems. I hav felt better today that I have in the last 2 years, and am looking forward to getting the rest of the mercury out and the root canal pulled. Jan </quote> [/QUOTE] And now the admission that this improvement was due to relief: Here are her exact words: [QUOTE, mounted] >Rich for the LAST time, I said I felt better than I had in two years. That was >very true. I had been very very ill and my health was deteriorating fast. After >much reading and research I was convinced it was my teeth. I wasn't absolutely >positivity 100% sure, but it all fit together and I knew I had to do something. >It wasn't easy, what if it didn't work? That was very stressful. >Finally all the work was done, the metal was out, the bill was paid, I didn't >have to sit in the dentist chairs for hours with a rubber dam in my >mouth!!!!!!!!!! Of course I was very relieved. A big big burden was lifted. >That makes one FEEL BETTER. > >What's so hard to understand? <quote, full original> http://www.google.de/groups?selm=20001229232415.00774.00003862%40ng-mm1.aol.com&output=gplain Lines: 35 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (JDrew63929) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 30 Dec 2000 04:24:15 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: This skeptic's view of alt/comp Message-ID: <[email protected]> >From: Rich {.} >Date: 12/29/00 10:28 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > Rich for the LAST time, I said I felt better than I had in two years. That was very true. I had been very very ill and my health was deteriorating fast. After much reading and research I was convinced it was my teeth. I wasn't absolutely positivity 100% sure, but it all fit together and I knew I had to do something. It wasn't easy, what if it didn't work? That was very stressful. Finally all the work was done, the metal was out, the bill was paid, I didn't have to sit in the dentist chairs for hours with a rubber dam in my mouth!!!!!!!!!! Of course I was very relieved. A big big burden was lifted. That makes one FEEL BETTER. What's so hard to understand? I also reported I had only begun, now on to chelating the mercury from my body. With mercury poisoning, it comes and goes, I had some pretty bad spells. I'm still chelating Rich and will be for some time. I slowly am regaining my health and my PN is much better. I don't have the painful periods that I once had, and yes it was after I started taking medication. You added a few words to what I said which *implied* that I was physicially free from pain..........as in BANG I'm home free. That is NOT what I meant.............and you know it. Now do you better understand? I hope so because I feel no need to explain it AGAIN. Please respect that I didn't have to explain AGAIN this time. Jan </quote> [/QUOTE] All the work was done??? A lie. The work was not completed until weeks later. Jan Drew even posted that her dental work was not done until July 11, 1999. And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told solely to deceive people into thinking that she really had mercury poisoning. The first is on June 26 ,1999 just a week after she had eight amalgams removed. She claimed that ALL her feet pain went away and she was able to go out line dancing because she was no longer getting a daily dose of mercury. This is a complete lie and Jan knew it. On June 26, 1999 Jan still had more amalgams to be removed and they would not be removed until July 11, 1999 by Jan's own admission. You see Jan has difficulty keeping her lies straight. But let us have Jan Drew tell us in her own words: [QUOTE, mounted] >On 26 Jun 1999, JDrew63929 wrote: >> >AF says >> >*** More childish nonsense from poor, sick old Jan. >> >> >> Well, Jan is doing fine, even went line dancing tonight! Guess that tells you >> something about my feet.. >> > > > > >This simply proves that your "neuralgia" is significantly the product of a >somatization disorder. Mercury accumulates in the body, and there is no >way having your fillings removed a week or two back could have instantly >eliminated all mercury toxicity effects. It would take months or even >years for the benefits to occur, if the problem really was mercury >toxicity. So if pulling your fillings instantly cured your feet, we have >a very solid case here that your "neuralgia" was psychosomatic. >>You are way off base here. I didn't say I was instantly cured. The detoxing >>that I have done is a major factor in my recovery. Yes, I will continue to do >>it for quite some time to remove the mercury from my body. I am feeling much >>better, because I am not receiving a new dose of mercury each day. The >>elimination of 8 mercury amalgams has made a difference. Nothing psychosomatic >>about it. <quote, full original> http://www.google.de/groups?selm=19990626122727.19238.00001294%40ng-fl1.aol.com&output=gplain From: [email protected] (JDrew63929) Subject: Re: Chronic constipation Date: 1999/06/26 Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1 References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative X-Admin: [email protected] >On 26 Jun 1999, JDrew63929 wrote: >> > >> >*** More childish nonsense from poor, sick old Jan. >> >> >> Well, Jan is doing fine, even went line dancing tonight! Guess that tells you >> something about my feet.. >> > > > > >This simply proves that your "neuralgia" is significantly the product of a >somatization disorder. Mercury accumulates in the body, and there is no >way having your fillings removed a week or two back could have instantly >eliminated all mercury toxicity effects. It would take months or even >years for the benefits to occur, if the problem really was mercury >toxicity. So if pulling your fillings instantly cured your feet, we have >a very solid case here that your "neuralgia" was psychosomatic. You are way off base here. I didn't say I was instantly cured. The detoxing that I have done is a major factor in my recovery. Yes, I will continue to do it for quite some time to remove the mercury from my body. I am feeling much better, because I am not receiving a new dose of mercury each day. The elimination of 8 mercury amalgams has made a difference. Nothing psychosomatic about it. >As a country musician, somehow I knew you were a line dancer. And >that, combined with your recent attempt to smear Texas and Texans, >explains a lot. > > >AF It does? My recent attemp to smear Texans? Now, please tell me, do you believe that people who like line dancing are stupid? Please explain your remark. You are a country musician, you can't see people truly enjoying themselves while line dancing? It was the first time I have been in a long, long time. I do not even know how, I have watched, but my feet stopped me from learning. I was so thankful to be back and tried a few lessons, THANK GOD, my feet didn't hurt! I felt alive again. What a blessing! Just as I thought that I knew you, you have really thrown me here. Please explain. Jan [/QUOTE] Nothing psychosomatic about it?!!?!?!?!?!?!? It was completely psychosomatic. Jan Drew's mercury level at the time she made this statement was the highest in her life since she had eight amalgams removed over a two day period only a week before. The second lie is when she posted to sci.med.dentisty that the reason she knows that it was the mercury in her mouth that caused her health problems was because she did not *begin* to regain her health until *after* the mercury level dropped. Not only is this a complete lie and Jan knows it but the complete opposite is true. Jan Drew began to regain her health when her mercury level was the highest in her entire life. That is right. When Jan Drew reported dramatic improvement in her health (ie better than she felt in two years, and being able to line dance due to all the pain gone) her mercury level had not dropped and was likely the highest in her life because this improvement occurred from hours to a week after her amalgams were removed. The reason that alternative dentists recommend slow removal of amalgams (some as posted by Jan Drew suggest removing no more than one amalgam every three months) is because the removal of the amalgams results in vaporization of mercury which even with perfect protocol will result in absorption into the body of large amounts of mercury. So on June 18 and 19, 1999 Jan had eight amalgams removed. On June 19, 1999 Jan said she felt better than she had in two years. On June 26, 1999 Jan said that she was able to go out line dancing because all her foot pain was gone. Of course the pain only was gone for a short time because it was likely a placebo effect due to her RELIEF that the mercury was coming out of her mouth. Just like she felt better than she did in two years due to relief (by her OWN admission) she was able to go out line dancing a week later when the absorption of mercury into her tissues from blood likely resulted in the highest level in her life. But Jan said that she knows it was the metal in her mouth because she did not BEGIN to regain her health until AFTER her mercury level dropped. A complete lie and the pathologic liar Jan Drew knows it. This is why she kill filed me. This is why she lies about me being a liar and a stalker. Jan Drew knows that I exposed her lies and she refuses to admit it. She is a despicable human being whose sole purpose in life is to shill for alternative dentists and to perpetuate the lie that she had mercury poisoning from amalgams. She did not and the proof is in her own words. Jan Drew will not respond to any of the points in this post. Instead she will pretend she is not reading them and then personally attack me in order to discredit me. Just watch. That's a wrap. Aloha, Rich ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ The best defense to logic is ignorance. </quote> 15. The foul language of Jan Drew ################################# On 06 Nov 2003 23:45:08 GMT, [email protected] (Jan) wrote: <quote> X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 06 Nov 2003 23:45:08 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Obsessed Nut Case Liar Aribert Deckers Message-ID: <[email protected]> Xref: news.freenet.de sci.med.dentistry:176001 >Subject: Re: [FAQ about Jan Drew's advertizing for quackery] 20031106 >From: [email protected] (ChuckMSRD) >Date: 11/6/2003 8:58 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >>2. Nicknames and persons involved in the Jan Drew scam > >>"ChuckMSRD" [email protected] > >Wrong, and Aribert is an obsessed nut job. > >Chuck True. There is no Jan Drew scam. There is no advertising from me. Neither do I know Chuck other than by his posts here. Jan </quote> On 04 Nov 2003 02:34:29 GMT, [email protected] (Jan) wrote: > The websites I post are written by DDS's MD's Ph.D researchers, people with >actual experience, and law makers. Jan Drew admits to post material into the net. ********************************************** This way Jan Drew is advertizing. Jan Drew just does not call it advertizing. Jan Drew's denial does not make the advertizing no advertizing. Jan Drew's denial shows his pathologic character. Jan Drew is a naturopath mafia advertizing agency and as such his words are rhetoric warfare. Because that is the game --- as Jan Drew persuades people to go to charlatans and quacks. 16. Jan Drew's rhetorical warfare ################################# As you have seen above, Jan Drew DOES advertize by posting material which is CONTRA scientific medicine and PRO naturopath mafia stuff. In the following posting by Nana Weedkiller you see the relevant points clearly : <quote> From: "Nana Weedkiller" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Re Complementary Medicine Grows By Leaps & Bounds Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:53:08 GMT "Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >> > >> That's never been an issue, at least not with me. The goal is for both > >> to work together. > > > >You have on several occasions specifically stated that people are turning > >*away* from conventional medicine and using alternative medicine *in place > >of* it. > > Please do copy and paste the proof of this claim. I thought I might help you out a little to remind you of what you've stated. No need to thank me. Message-ID: <[email protected]> "...when one has exhausted the conventional route and found no answers, they turn to alternative medicine. Many have found the answer been treated and are regaining their health. It's called RESULTS." Message-ID: <[email protected]> "Or one can turn to alternative medicine and find an answer,,,,,,,,,,,,and that is WHY one half of people are turning to alternative medicine." Message-ID: <[email protected]> "ONE of the MAIN reasons people turn to alternative medicine, is because conv. medicine HAS NO ANSWERS,,,,,,,,,,,," Message-ID: <[email protected]> "Defects of conventional medicine are just one more reason to turn to alternative medicine, and stay OUT of hospitals." Message-ID: <[email protected]> "Furthmore, have you any clue as to WHY people are turning to alternative?? BECASE THEY ARE DISSATIFIED WITH CONVENTIONAL MEDIC!NE!!!" Message-ID: <[email protected]> "When conv. has no answers, it's time to turn to alternative. Many are finding answers and treatment that is working." Message-ID: <[email protected]> "And many times they get NO diagnoses because it isn't in the recipe book. Many people turn to alternative because conv. has no answers." Message-ID: <[email protected]> "Their *real* doctor? The reason most people are turning to AM is because their conv. doctor has NO answers, because REAL conditions are being denied." Message-ID: <[email protected]> "In many cases conv. medicine has no answers, that's because many *real* diseases are denied. People tuurn to alternative to get to the *root* of the problem." Message-ID: <[email protected]> "You will find that most people are turning to alternative because conventional medicine has no answers." </quote> The naturopath mafiosi always invite the scientific medicine to cooperate with them. But the naturopath mafia seeds hatred against scientific medicine whereever possible. There will NEVER be any kind of cooperation, as it is the naturopath mafia which wants to rule the world ALONE, and may it cost the life of all patients. 17. Children die because of criminals like Jan Drew ################################################### On 11 Oct 2003 05:35:32 GMT, [email protected] (Jan) wrote: >This is truly evil. > >Jan This is a report from WHO in 1997 : http://www.who.int/child-adolescent-health/New_Publications/IMCI/fs_180.htm <quote> "Measles The problem: Despite the major impact made on this disease by successful immunization programmes, measles infects over 40 million children and kills over 800,000 under-fives each year. That translates to 2,000 deaths of young children every day from measles, often in association with diarrhoea and pneumonia. IMCI solution: Young children with measles often develop acute respiratory infections, diarrhoea and malnutrition, and children who survive measles are more vulnerable to other dangerous infections for several months afterwards. Trained health workers learn to recognize the complications of measles that they can treat and those that need rapid referral for more specialized treatment." </quote> What is more evil than to kill children ? Children die. They die because they have not been vaccinated. They die because of infections which they could have survived if they had been vaccinated. And Jan Drew persuades people NOT to have their children vaccinated... Jan Drew denies that he is against vaccination, but here are pieces of proof : [long, but with reason not abridged] <quote> From: "Tony Bad" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry References: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Mercury in the mouth Lines: 38 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:20:37 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.186.4.238 X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1032492423 24.186.4.238 (Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:27:03 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:27:03 EDT Organization: Optimum Online You forgot the "once upon a time" at the start and "they lived happily ever after" at the end... "Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > This brings us to the problem of detecting mercury toxicity in humans: The lack > of adequate diagnosis and testing available. ??????? There are very reliable tests for mercury level and very clear sysmptoms associated with certain levels of mercury in the body...where have these guys been?? The author of this drivel is...Ingri Cassel, Director of a group called "Vaccination Liberation" Their mission is: Mission Statement: To reveal the myth that vaccines are safe and effective To preserve our right to abstain To repeal all compulsory vaccination laws nationwide To expand our awareness of alternatives in healthcare For further information contact: Perhaps they should add...to return us to the dark ages when millions died from illneses that are now unheard of. I hear they want to bring back the use of trephining as well! Sounds like a real forward thinking group! next T </quote> <quote> Lines: 185 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 20 Sep 2002 03:47:07 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Mercury in the mouth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Mercury in the mouth >From: "Tony Bad" [email protected] >Date: 9/19/02 8:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > >You forgot the "once upon a time" at the start and "they lived happily ever >after" at the end... Always a smart remark of diversion. http://proliberty.com/observer/20020608.htm >> This brings us to the problem of detecting mercury toxicity in humans: The lack >> of adequate diagnosis and testing available. > >??????? There are very reliable tests for mercury level and very clear >sysmptoms associated with certain levels of mercury in the body...where >have these guys been?? No, you are wrong. The normal 24 hour urine test will not show mercury deeply embedded in tissue. >The author of this drivel is...Ingri Cassel, Director of a group called >"Vaccination Liberation" So??? >Their mission is: > >Mission Statement: >To reveal the myth that vaccines are safe and effective >To preserve our right to abstain >To repeal all compulsory vaccination laws nationwide >To expand our awareness of alternatives in healthcare For further information contact: A very good mission. Interest in eliminating all forms of mercury. From the June 2002 Idaho Observer: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Mercury Amalgams: Do you still have a mouth full of them? by Ingri Cassel After two of my dear friends were plagued with health problems that were only minimized by natural healing programs, it was discovered that they were both suffering from acute systemic mercury poisoning and the main source of this insidious poison was in their mouth. Both of these women have a mouthful of aging mercury amalgams. It has been shown that mercury is continually released from mercury dental fillings in the form of mercury vapor and abraded particles. This process is further stimulated and can be increased as much as 15-fold by simply chewing, brushing teeth, hot drinks and even swishing your mouth with a solution of hydrogen peroxide (used to reduce dental plaque.) What we have been lead to believe are �?osilver�?? dental amalgams actually contain 48-55 percent mercury, 33-35 percent silver and various amounts of copper, tin, zinc and other metals. For decades the American Dental Association has steadfastly maintained that the mercury in dental amalgams is bound to the other metals in such a way that the mercury could not possibly escape. However the ADA's assumption was proven wrong in 1985 when two researchers demonstrated that the air inside a mercury amalgam filled mouth continually contained elemental mercury vapor, and the dynamic of chewing increased this vapor level substantially. Mercury is extremely poisonous, accumulating over time in the various tissues of the body, particularly the brain and kidneys. Published research from two scientists at Utah State University shows that mercury is more toxic than lead, cadmium and even arsenic. Even world regulatory agencies such as the World Health Organization (WHO) have stated that the smallest amount of mercury that will not cause damage is unknown. In fact, the WHO recently concluded that the daily intake of mercury from amalgam dental fillings exceeded the combined daily intake of mercury derived from air, water and food (including fish). In human autopsy studies it has been found that there is a direct correlation between the amount of mercury found in the brain and the number and surfaces of mercury fillings in the mouth. Recent scientific research has shown high levels of mercury in the brains of Alzheimer's disease victims. Furthermore, laboratory studies of spinal fluid from both Lou Gehrig's disease and Alzheimers's disease patients have confirmed the presence of high levels of mercury that inhibit key brain detoxification systems. Despite these findings, the American Dental Association and various agencies in the U.S. government still support the use of mercury amalgam dental fillings. They claim that they are safe based on 150 years of use and that there is no scientific proof showing mercury exposure from dental fillings causes any known disease. �?oIn 1988 scrap dental amalgam was declared a hazardous waste material by the Environmental Protection Agency... Once a doctor removes an amalgam and places it in a tray, it once again becomes a hazardous waste material. I ask the reader -- what is it about the mouth that makes this same item non-toxic? Or is it possible that the mouths of some 80 percent of Americans with amalgam fillings are in actuality toxic waste dumps?�?? ~Sandra Denton, M.D., from The Mercury Cover-Up in the June, 1989 edition of Health Consciousness magazine. This well referenced article also brings up the fact that dentists have the highest suicide and divorce rate among professionals. And dental personnel have a higher spontaneous abortion rate, a higher incidence of premature labor and infertility, and an elevated incidence of perinatal mortality. But how do we know this is due to the constant low levels of mercury to which they are exposed? This brings us to the problem of detecting mercury toxicity in humans: The lack of adequate diagnosis and testing available. Symptoms may vary due to biochemical individuality. There are also different degrees of intoxication from the same amount of mercury levels. �?oMary�?? had such high levels of mercury in her system that our dentist, Dr. Armand DeFelice, told her that he had never seen such high levels of mercury in a person that didn't have multiple sclerosis or some other debilitating auto-immune disorder. Some of the more common symptoms of mercury toxicity are anemia, anorexia, chronically low body temperature, bronchitis, colitis, high blood pressure, low blood sugar, irritability, fatigue, gingivitis, mouth sores, bleeding gums, headaches, visual changes, insomnia, depression, stomach pains, allergic reactions, joint pains, trembling and loss of appetite. The problem is that most people have several of these health problems and would not necessarily connect it to mercury poisoning. But with at least 85 percent of the American population having mercury amalgams in their mouth, and most of these having at least 10 mercury amalgam fillings, the mercury link to ill-health becomes that much more obvious. Another reason for concern is that for the past 20 years, the most popular mercury filling has been the �?ohigh copper�?? amalgam that boasts 30 percent copper. Scientific studies have proven that the new high copper fillings release mercury (and copper) at a rate 50 times faster than the pre-1980 amalgams. With all the media stories out now on the pervasiveness of mercury in our environment, it is imperative that we look into our mouths since our fillings will likely be the main source of our own mercury toxicity. What is even more convincing is the stories of people who have had their amalgams replaced with a more biocompatible composite. Chronic health problems disappear and many claim there is a new level of clarity in their thinking that they hadn't had. But the system for removing and replacing amalgams is not a simple one. Often the plastic composite materials used to replace the filling is nearly as toxic to a chemically sensitive person as the mercury amalgam was. According to Dr. DeFelice, there are over 150 different non-mercury composites to choose from with only a fraction of them being biocompatible. Also, the order in which the old fillings are removed is another aspect that can create more hazards than health benefits initially. For some reason, accepted but not totally clear, your body responds to the removal of the fillings according to electrical charge. Fillings are like little batteries and they generate electrical current. Some teeth will read positive, and some negative when touched with an ammeter. Evidently, whether the filling is pushing electrons from the filling up into your brain, or pushing protons, it affects the body's own electrical system when these are removed. These are only two of the many reasons to go to a dentist who is thoroughly trained in the art of amalgam removal. But what I consider the most important reason to go to such a skilled dentist is the fact that they are clearly dedicated to helping people get well through their profession. Now that you know the deadly effects of mercury fillings and fluoride, deadly substances that are backed by the American Dental Association, why trust and support a dentist who uses these poisonous substances in his practice? In a world of many options and choices, it is high time we make our choices conscious ones. </quote> Says Jan Drew : <quote> >Their mission is: > >Mission Statement: >To reveal the myth that vaccines are safe and effective >To preserve our right to abstain >To repeal all compulsory vaccination laws nationwide >To expand our awareness of alternatives in healthcare For further information contact: A very good mission. ******************** </quote> The underlign "***" in the following pieces of proof is by me : <quote> Path: news.freenet.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!213.253.16.105.MISMATCH!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!63.218.45.11.MISMATCH!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!38.144.126.70.MISMATCH!feed3.newsreader.com!newsreader.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 77 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 22 Aug 2003 19:47:06 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: The Dangers Of Vaccines Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <[email protected]> Xref: news.freenet.de misc.health.alternative:311988 http://www.mercola.com/forms/vaccine_teleconference.htm The Danger of Vaccines, and How You Can Legally Avoid Them Vaccines can harm, and in some cases, even kill. And at school, vaccine requirements for admission are a serious problem that many of you, whether parents of preschool to college students, or a college student yourself, will face. "The Danger of Vaccines, and How You Can Legally Avoid Them" is a professionally recorded 90-minute audio tape of an important teleconference that I hosted on 8/24/02. The tape features a conversation between renowned vaccine expert Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and me in the first hour, with select questions from over 600 conference participants in the second half-hour. The tape will help you: Discover simple, practical steps you can take to legally avoid dangerous immunizations Learn the difference between philosophical, religious and medical exemptions Understand why most medical exemptions will not stand up in court Learn pracitcal methods of improving your child's immunity so they won't get the diseases the vaccinesare supposed to, but frequently don't, prevent Health care practitioners and others with a professional interest in health will also find this tape invaluable, as your patients will benefit from this information and you will learn the serious legal dangers you risk if you falsify a medical exemption. The damage vaccines inflict on individuals and society far outweighs ********************************************************************* any potential benefit they may claim. This is not unverifiable hype ************************************* from the fringes. Indisputable facts support this claim. Countless firsthand stories testify to the pain, damage and death vaccines have caused; a powerful story from a Mother who lost her baby to routine vaccination that is currently circulating the Internet is but one example. But your government, under the thumb of a traditional medical system grown fat on extreme drug profits, refuses to expose this epidemic. They would still have you believe vaccinations are good. They would still have you believe vaccines for your child are "mandatory." "The Danger of Vaccines, and How You Can Legally Avoid Them" finally dispels the myths and helps you : Understand why vaccines are essentially loaded guns aimed at your ***************************************************************** child's body ************ Find out how you can disarm your school nurses by legally avoiding vaccines Learn what approaches you can take to immunize your child against disease safely - and for life Crucial Vaccine Insight from the World�?Ts Leading Authority Most of the 150,000 readers of my free health newsletter need no introduction to Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, as she has been a contributing editor on the vaccine issue for several years. For that matter, many people throughout North America have likely heard of her, too, as she has offered her unparalleled insight on vaccines on countless health programs. Her articles, such as �?oExpert" Believes Infants Can Tolerate 10,000 Vaccines and Smallpox Vaccines and Heart Disease, No "Coincidence", gives an idea of the range of her expertise and important insight. With �?oVaccines: What CDC Documents and Science Reveal,�?? though, you will get all of the crucial information you need to protect you and your loved ones. What�?Ts more, you�?Tll get it in a manner you can understand, and that�?Ts not �?odry�?? but actually engaging to watch. If you are also interested in how and why vaccines themselves are dangerous, you should seriously consider Dr. Tenpenny's new video, �?oVaccines: What CDC Documents and Science Reveal.�?? You'll learn how vaccines can cause illnesses including autoimmune diseases, allergies, ear infections, and more. You'll discover the very real link between vaccines and developmental, learning and behavioral disorders in children. You'll find out how and why vaccine studies are seriously flawed. And much more: read more about Dr. Tenpenny's vaccine video. </quote> <quote> Lines: 99 X-Admin: [email protected] From: [email protected] (Jan) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 20 Oct 2002 21:34:07 GMT References: <[email protected]> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: New Flu vaccine for babies.. Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: New Flu vaccine for babies.. >From: "Mark Probert" [email protected] >Date: 10/20/02 6:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time >Message-id: <[email protected]> > > >"Cher" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:[email protected]... >> Vaccines, all vaccines, are immune suppressing; that is they depress our >> immune functions. > >No, they do not do this. I suggest that you get some facts on this. The >immune system is alike a muscle, the more it works the stronger it gets. >Babies, from the instant of birth, have their immune system working very >hard to accept al the new antigens they are experiencing. This is an excerpt from an article published by Randall Neustaedtler, O.M.D. titled Do Vaccines Disable the Immune System? Vaccines are destroying our immune systems. Amazingly, the medical ******************************************* profession ignores the incriminating evidence against vaccines, and continues to inflict more unnecessary and harmful vaccines on our nation's infants. A recent study from the New England Journal of Medicine of May 1996 revealed that tetanus vaccine disables the immune system in HIV patients. Tetanus vaccination produced a drop in T cells in 10 of 13 patients, a classic sign of immune deficiency. HIV viral replication increased dramatically in response to tetanus vaccine. Finally, white blood cells from 7 of 10 uninfected individuals became more susceptible to HIV infection following tetanus vaccination. Despite these findings, the authors made no comment about the immune depleting effect of the vaccine. Why is the public unaware of these findings? Why has the medical profession kept these reports hidden from the public eye? With typical condescension, Dr. Martin Smith, president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, explained in the Academy's News that the inclusion of this type of information in vaccine brochures would confuse many parents and could even needlessly alarm them. An uninformed patient is compliant. The cover-up of immune system failure following vaccination is reminiscent of the tobacco industry's continuous denial and misinformation campaign about the dangers of cigarettes. In both instances huge profits are at stake in multibillion-dollar industries. Vaccine manufacturers cannot afford to have their product maligned in a public forum. Doctors have often stated that broadcasting adverse effects of vaccines to the public would hinder vaccine campaigns. This attitude emerged more than thirty years ago when Dr. Paul Meier testified before a congressional committee concerning the polio vaccine campaign of the 1960s. It is hard to convince the public that something is good. Consequently, the best way to push forward a new program is to decide on what you think the best decision is and not question it thereafter, and further, not to raise questions before the public or expose the public to open discussion of the issues. The medical profession has been aware of the damaging effects of vaccines on the immune system since their introduction. For example, the ability of pertussis and DTP vaccines to stimulate the onset of paralytic polio was first noted in 1909. In every polio epidemic since then, DTP injections have caused the onset of polio disease. In 1950, two careful studies were conducted in the state of New York to evaluate the reports of an association between the onset of paralytic polio and recent injections. The findings were published in the American Journal of Public Health. Investigators contacted the families of all children who contracted polio during that year, a total of 1,300 cases in New York City and 2,137 cases in the remainder of New York State. A history of vaccinations received in the previous two months was obtained on each child and from a group of matched controls in the same population. Those studies discovered that children with polio were twice as likely to have received a DTP vaccination in the two months preceding the onset of polio than were the control children. The association of vaccines with the onset of polio continues in the modern age. During a recent polio epidemic in the Arabian peninsula country of Oman, DTP vaccination again caused the onset of paralytic polio. In that epidemic, 70 children 5 to 24 months old contracted paralytic polio during the period 1988-1989. The report in the British medical journal Lancet confirmed that a significantly higher percentage of these children had received a DTP shot within 30 days of the onset of polio compared to a control group of children without polio, 43 percent of polio victims compared to 28 percent of controls. The DTP vaccine suppresses the body's ability to fight off the polio virus. The destructive effect of vaccines on the immune system can persist over an extended period of time. One study published in the Journal of Infectious Diseases documented a long-term depressive effect on interferon production caused by the measles vaccine. Interferon is a chemical produced by lymphocytes (a type of white blood cell) that renders the host resistant to infection. Interferon production is stimulated by infection with a virus to protect the body from superinfection by some other micro-organism. In this study, vaccination of one-year-old infants with measles vaccine caused a precipitous drop in the level of alpha-interferon produced by lymphocytes. This decline persisted for one year following vaccination, at which time the experiment was terminated. Thus, this study showed that measles vaccine produced a significant long-term immune suppression. </quote> Proof, again and again, that Jan Drew spreads misinformation about vaccination. ----- Why am I maintaining this FAQ ? Since 1996 I maintain a web-site against dental amalgam. 99% of my time I have to tell people what naturopath stuff is quackery. So I wrote web-pages about what I found. In the usenet I found a liar who calls himself Jan Drew. Who advertizes quackery. Jan Drew is one of many advertizing agencies which do the very same. Some months ago a German advertizing agency was caught advertizing chlorella algae. Estimated damage of the chlorella swindle : 1 billion US-$ per year. The method is always the same. The result is always the same : Ill people are ripped off. And they die. Some months ago I got to know about a man ill with cancer. This man was ordered by his naturopath to drink 1 litre of Noni juice per day. A bottle costs about 50 US-$. After 6 months all his money was gone and the man was dead. He had paid estimated 9000 US-$. Calculating the normal dealers' provisions the naturopath collected about 2000 US-$. Or more... And the man ill with cancer is dead... I am collecting material about Jan Drew. I want to make a web-page about his criminal abuse of ill people. Please contact me via news:misc.health.alternative or news:sci.med.dentistry *********************** ***************** A militia against the Jan Drew quack mafia ! I give 1 Dollar. Aribert Deckers -- "So finden Sie Gewinnertypen" (Michael Strachowitz) Eine Analyse http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_ml15.htm |
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