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GekkonidaeLC 2,695 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6 5:22pm Subject: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Thanks in advance..

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mykel73 3,102 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6 5:24pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Thief...he and The Black Snake team up to swindle folks. They were in TSc for a time and got removed I believe.

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-Diatribe- 7,578 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6 5:40pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
He's a POS, and a thief. Used to steal from people back when gambling was first introduced.

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Great_Hippo 21,111 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6 5:41pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
very very old thief/grief player.

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Date Posted: 9/6 8:48pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
PMFG, why don't you people tell me these things?!?

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Dumfist 7,615 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6 8:48pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
he's an uber lameass. Likes to greif ppl via chat and tells. One of my first squelches.

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Date Posted: 9/6 8:50pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
uber lameass lol nice description happy.gif

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Pyro-elf 11,200 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6 9:22pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
More details prz?

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Tanalith 
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Date Posted: 9/6 9:44pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
This information is from the Cyricx lead era of Guardians of Fire - not sure if all the links are still active ... but this is the info in the GoF Website about The White Snake / The Black Snake - and why they were booted from GoF.

Here is a link to CoD

http://forums.warcry.com/read.php?f=45&i=192921&loc=0&t=192921#192921

Here is an OLD Vault Link

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=34269920&replies=40

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ariella689 362 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6 9:45pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Used to have posts on this board about them (black and white) all the time.

About a year ago, they were in mousey, didn't know the rep. I remember them stealing stuff at mansion from peeps drop muling.

I think white mouthed off calling mousey names, while she was standing there on alt. character.

she can type /boot allegiance pretty fast. :-)

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Thorfinn_Sigurdssen 
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Date Posted: 9/6 10:19pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake - Date Edited: 9/6 10:23pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Thorfinn_Sigurdssen
Never traded with either of them, but they're quite willing to steal kills in the Tusker Holding if they can't get into the fellowship. I know he's been ejected from the queue a couple of times for it.

Last time I saw them both, their monarch was Billy Loomis. Billy, I'd drop them before they drop your monarchy's rep.

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JMW111 2,438 posts
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Date Posted: 9/6 10:40pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
The old Vault link is no longr available Tana, but what it was, was the Snak trying to defend himself and making a new account name pretending to be someone else.

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billy_loomis1 3,256 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 8:49am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
They are gone.

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Milphiii 1,010 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 9:01am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Woot Go Billy! happy.gif

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YVX 2,554 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 9:06am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
white snake is more a griefer then a thieft

he live ontario

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billy_loomis1 3,256 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 9:34am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
I would just like to add, after we removed him and told him. The Black Snake, gave back everything anyone ever gave him in the clan. He was also very sorry to get the clan in to this situation. He seemed like a good guy, other than having a bad past.

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Rayneth1 387 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 9:39am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Maybe someone's trying to turn his rep around and play the game? Hmm?
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Ah-Schoo 11,941 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 9:44am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Had plenty of opportunity to change and they never seemed to bother. It's a little late for it now if you ask me.

But then again, I hold grudges. (Ingame that is, not really in RL)

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Rayneth1 387 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 10:06am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Alright, I don't know him.

But I think if he wants to now enjoy the game he deserves a chance to.
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Ah-Schoo 11,941 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 10:08am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Griefing people for more than a year, then instant forgiveness.

Not from me, thanks. Actions have consequence in my AC world.

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Elly_LC 1,558 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 10:14am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Your a toughy though Shoo *sp

Some of us are more forgiving

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Ah-Schoo 11,941 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 10:15am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake

Heh, clearly. happy.gif

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sonofpicccolo 1,587 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 10:40am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
am with schoo on this one

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Achim_LC 4,946 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 10:42am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake


You can't grief people as long as he did then all of sudden say your sorry and expect everything to be all better.


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Elly_LC 1,558 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 10:47am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake - Date Edited: 9/7 10:50am (1 edits total) Edited By: Elly_LC
Well on reading your sig Achim, no one really stands a chance with you happy.gif

*edit* Hey im not defending this guy i dont even know him and have never come across him ... All i said was some ppl are more forgiving than others ..

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Dark-Kimone 708 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 11:29am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
you ppl are very stupid.


ok, about a year and a half ago, Black and I did do some things. Theif yes...long long time ago.


we were not removed from TSC, we left because we had friends in there and we did not want to mess things up for TSC.

People change and we have. for the past year, to present we have been nice, kind and helpful toward our fellow ac players.


All of the above posts are not true. in mousey we did not, or would ever steal from drop muling allie members. You know how it goes, just like in RL, one person says somthing to another and it gets passed on and the next thing you know, the guy just didnt steal the booze he raped and shot someone.


The point im trying to make is, that yes we do have skeletons in our closet, but we moved on for the best and smartened up.

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Nickolas_II 2,157 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 11:40am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Once a theif always a theif in my book.

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MisatoX 11,982 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 11:44am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Well if your trying to get people to see your viewpoint you shouldn't start out with "you ppl are very stupid." wink.gif

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Dark-Kimone 708 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 11:46am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
nickolas II just proved that point.

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sonofpicccolo 1,587 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 11:49am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
if you truly want to start with a new rep delete this char

Start a new one

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Whiskyjack 6,398 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 11:49am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Why should we just take your word for it man?

I remember you stealing from one of my vassals.And when i asked you about it you told me kindly to f-off along with a few other choice words.

And my vassal was'nt the only one you burned.

I really hope you have changed,and if you have,i hope you can ride out this wave of doubt and cynisism to get through to the other side.

But untill a lot more time goes by,I for one won't trust you with anything.

good luck though.

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Dark-Kimone 708 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 11:53am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
I think a year and 1/2 is ample time for people to get over stuff and us to prove ourselfs.


If we wanted to take the easy way out, we would have make new chars, BUT we want to prove you ppl wrong.

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encantado 58 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 12:39pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
you've only proved something to a few people, however, there were a lot more people who you did wrong, so it seems you have more proving to do before people get over it.
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Achim_LC 4,946 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 12:49pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake - Date Edited: 9/7 12:50pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Achim_LC

Riiiiiiight....




Edit: Elly, sigs aren't everything. grin.gif



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JMW111 2,438 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 12:51pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
It wasn't a year and half ago when you were removed from GoF, after coming here, making a new account and pretending to be someone else and lying instead of being straight up about it. How does anyone know you arent lying again? Exactly...

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Varacon 5,020 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 12:53pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake - Date Edited: 9/7 12:56pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Varacon
heh well, doesn't matter does it, even if ever since you hit the path of good and righteousness you did 100 times more good things than bad things before you turned good.

Peeps are bound to remember you by those few bad things you did and judge you on them no matter how frikkin' long ago that might have been.

Should have thought of that before you started to mess with peeps huh?

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wildone82 
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Date Posted: 9/7 2:34pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Until today, I was a clan member of these two. I can tell you that they both have been great to be around. White does have a little bit of a attitude problem. I don't think they have ever stolen from a clan member. I do know that they have given some stuff to others. It doesn't make up for their past behavior, however, from the sounds of the comments being made, nothing will ever make up for it. I wish you both the best of luck and good hunting!
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-Ripper- 3,191 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 2:49pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
imo : thief/griefer.

Once a thief always a thief, correct there nick.

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Ah-Schoo 11,941 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 2:57pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake

Yesterday I stopped kicking old ladies and taking their pension checks! I haven't molested the neighbours cat in over 7 hours! It's been at least 2 minutes since I mocked a complete stranger on an internet forum.

I've reformed. I'm a nice guy, honest.

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Khloe 97 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 2:57pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
I don't now The White Snake that well, but if I remember correctly he was removed from GoF because of his reputation from before, nothing else.

But I agree it is hard to fix a bad rep and it may take a long time.

May want to start a new character happy.gif ..

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Great_Hippo 21,111 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 6:00pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
frankly, snakes attitude on this thread leads me to believe that he hasnt changed at all.



/e feigns shock.

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Lornell 
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Date Posted: 9/8 6:06pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
I was in there clan untell yesterday and i would like to say that they would never steal from our mansion. I havent knowen them that long or have i known there past. but i would still trust them because in my eyes they have change... but there was a rumor going around our mansion that black snakes "missing" armor was beeing weilded by black the morning he got banned... well... happy hunting Black and White.
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wildone82 
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Date Posted: 9/8 8:08pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Is it true that Gekko never removed White from his clan? It is kind of pathetic to run a rep check and find out all this stuff and yet still keep him. What was the point? White is where he wanted to be. Black lost out. I have never met Gekko but if this is true, hes a jerk.
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Violated87 2,548 posts
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Date Posted: 9/8 8:53pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
aye, the white snake was in gekk today in rampager dungeon. and i beleive he was in the fellow at one point as well

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Date Posted: 9/8 9:22pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Okay, one of their followers I can see making a SN to defend them, but 2? Can one of the mods tell me if there's a bit of matching IP going on here?

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Date Posted: 9/8 9:34pm Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
"Whaaaah, we've changed!"

Bullbleep. If you're actually changed, good for you. Don't expect many people that knew you back when you are a grade-A buttmunch to believe it.

Surprised nobody has brought up you two fonging The Steel's xp chain either. Good friend of mine had a character (Chef Ravlen) that was between you two in the chain, and got shafted because of your thoughtless bullbleep.

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wildone82 
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Date Posted: 9/9 6:02am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
What kind of Monarch does a check, finds out all this info which no one will forgive them for and keeps him? Where is the logic in that? Of course, seeing that Gekko is a major board troll, it doesn't surprise me any.

No one is saying that what the two did in the past is forgiveable, and given the mentality of the people that hang out on these board, forgiveness shouldn't ever be expected.

I won't say much about White, the fact that Gekko kept him says it all. But for Black, he gave everything back to Billy and friends, something a person described in this thread won't do.

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Zalmoxis 1,295 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9 6:19am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
Back when Eviscerator Pincers could be turned in while in a fellow for enhanced xp, I know for certain that The White Snake was in a fellow of mine. Of course he opted to go last and when everyone turned theirs in, he logged.

Deffinitely a dishonest kid.

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GekkonidaeLC 2,695 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9 8:17am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
I appreciate everyones comments.

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-ExpendedSoul- 1,454 posts
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Date Posted: 9/9 8:20am Subject: RE: Rep Check ~ The White Snake
LOL, you have a lot on your heart eh, wildone82?
Maybe you should talk it out with someone close to you. happy.gif

And as far as I can recall, TWS was not in LoD the last time I saw him..

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