t62secsofclarity: well would it not all be antimatter
t62secsofclarity: if nothing were there?
Atheist142: no, antimatter is some weird stuff that I don't really
understand much because it's really very complicated, all I know is
that it cancels out matter
t62secsofclarity: ok
t62secsofclarity: well according to science
t62secsofclarity: matter cannot just appear
Atheist142: yes, actually, it can
t62secsofclarity: something must create it
Atheist142: did you read my bottom part on evidence?
t62secsofclarity: and for something to create it, doesnt the something have to be
there first
t62secsofclarity: its a chicken and the egg question
t62secsofclarity: i think i just deleted your email
Atheist142: did you read the bottom part on evidence?
t62secsofclarity: dont htink so
Atheist142: ummm...
Atheist142: well, would you like me to tell you now?
t62secsofclarity: ya
Atheist142: it has been shown that small bits of equal amounts of
matter and antimatter can spontaneously appear in a partial vaccuum
t62secsofclarity: parital
t62secsofclarity: key word
t62secsofclarity: partial
Atheist142: LET ME FINISH PLEASE
t62secsofclarity: sorry
Atheist142: they quickly disappear because it's not a true vaccuum,
and it seems to fit in with all of the physics junk because the matter
and the antimatter cancel eachother ot, so the total mass is 0
Atheist142: if the total mass is 0, then it would take no energy to
create, and it gets rid of the need for a creator
Atheist142: from all readings, the total amount of matter in the
universe is about 0
Atheist142: so it fits :-)
Atheist142: there, sorry about that.
t62secsofclarity: so
t62secsofclarity: if the total amount of matter is 0
t62secsofclarity: how can there be matter to build something
Atheist142: well, there is matter to cancel out the antimatter
t62secsofclarity: but if the total is 0
Atheist142: err, antimatter to cancel out the existing matter
t62secsofclarity: there is nothing
Atheist142: example:
t62secsofclarity: please
Atheist142: if you look at the equation 2 - 2 = 0
Atheist142: there is a "2"
Atheist142: there is a "-2"
t62secsofclarity: not at the end
Atheist142: yes, but that's just if they were both together
Atheist142: if the matter and the antimatter werre added together,
you'd get about 0
t62secsofclarity: if you want to talk about the answer to how the universe was
created, you must look at the answer
t62secsofclarity: right
Atheist142: but they're not together now, they're seperate entities
t62secsofclarity: but still
t62secsofclarity: its a continuing cycle
Atheist142: really, how?
t62secsofclarity: ok
t62secsofclarity: youve got amtter and antimatter
t62secsofclarity: you add them together
t62secsofclarity: you have nothing
Atheist142: pretty much
t62secsofclarity: that is what you get
t62secsofclarity: well if you have added them together
Atheist142: if they are added together.
Atheist142: but right now they're not together
t62secsofclarity: how can they be seperate entities?
t62secsofclarity: how can they be together when its convenient for you and separate
when its not?
Atheist142: how did I say they were together?
Atheist142: when you add them together, you get a total of 0
t62secsofclarity: you said that the combined and it happened so fast it jus started a
sorty of explosion
Atheist142: no, I never said they combined
Atheist142: I said that they appeared and then expanded to fill the
nothingness and vaccuum that was around
t62secsofclarity: then how could they create
t62secsofclarity: if they didnt combine
Atheist142: what do you mean?
t62secsofclarity: not sure
t62secsofclarity: i have this thing
t62secsofclarity: were i always contradict myself
t62secsofclarity: i know what im talking about
t62secsofclarity: but i seem to not be clear when i sate it
Atheist142: there is also probably a lot of important physics junk that I
don't understand that I'm leaving out...
Atheist142: :-P phooey, I wish I werre a rocket scientist
t62secsofclarity: well
t62secsofclarity: how did the first matter get there
Atheist142: it spontaneously appeared due to a quantum fluctuation
t62secsofclarity: and what is the evidence
Atheist142: hmm, well right now I'm using an online interview with a
particle physicist for most of what I'm saying
Atheist142: hang on a sec and I'll get you the URL