supJfreak57: why don't you believe that there is a God
Atheist142: 'cause I don't see any valid reason to... and hi to you too :-)
supJfreak57: what do you mean valid reason
Atheist142: I see no logical reason to believe in any god/ess
supJfreak57: there is only one God
supJfreak57: and His word, the Bible, gives so many answers
Atheist142: *shruggies* I don't see how the Bible can be called proof, seeing as there is no evidence for its validity
supJfreak57: proof
supJfreak57: like answered proficy
supJfreak57: look back through history and then look at the Bible
supJfreak57: the history of Israel is in both and they match perfectly
Atheist142: I don't know of any specifically worded prophecy in the bible that was answered in places other than in other parts of the Bible
supJfreak57: the Bible has never had anything added on to it since it's finish
supJfreak57: look back on history
Atheist142: actually, to my knowledge, the books of the Bible were decided by a vote a few centuries after the books were published.
Atheist142: like the voted books in.
Atheist142: they
supJfreak57: where is that knowledge from
supJfreak57: it is wrong, by the way
supJfreak57: the Bible said the Jews would never be all killed off
Atheist142: I heard it from a source I trust on Biblical history... one that I don't think you would trust as far as you could throw him
supJfreak57: Adolf Hitler tried and died in the process
Atheist142: actually he ordered his men to kill him
Atheist142: he went loony at the end of the war.
Atheist142: (crazy man)
supJfreak57: still he couldn't kill them
supJfreak57: j
Atheist142: genocide rarely, if ever works
supJfreak57: God did it to him
Atheist142: I doubt taht
Atheist142: that
Atheist142: (grr cannot spell tonight :-))
supJfreak57: why not
supJfreak57: why do you doubt it
Atheist142: because you have offered no proof to substantiate that.
supJfreak57: God said it wouldn't happen and it didn't
Atheist142: well I say that Christianity will never die out in American culture as we know it.
supJfreak57: because it is the infallible word of Bod
supJfreak57: God
supJfreak57: sory
supJfreak57: sorry
Atheist142: :-) np
supJfreak57: do you know what hell is
supJfreak57: do you want me to explain what it is
Atheist142: that prophecy had a good chance of coming true... that was countint the hits and forgetting the misses... and I know what mainstream
Christians think Hell is
supJfreak57: what then
supJfreak57: when you die you either go to Heaven or Hell
supJfreak57: Hell is a place of torment
supJfreak57: have you ever been burned?
Atheist142: it is a place where unrepentant sinners go for all eternity for turning their back on God... it is a place without the wonder of God's love,
etc. etc.
supJfreak57: well?
supJfreak57: have you?
Atheist142: it's said to be "a lake of fire" or a place where "their worm dieth not"
Atheist142: and I think that is a myth.
supJfreak57: it isn't
supJfreak57: sorry to tell you
supJfreak57: why wouldn't you accept God
Atheist142: why don't you accept Santa Claus?
supJfreak57: now that was a dumb question
Atheist142: why don't you accept Zeus?
supJfreak57: i see God working in many ways
supJfreak57: i will make you a bet
Atheist142: or Hera? or Quetzlcoatl? how do you know that it's just the Aztec God working, and you are mistaken? If you're wrong, you will go to
their hell and burn for eternity too!
supJfreak57: my Bible tells of an oncoming apocolypse, you may call it
supJfreak57: when all of His children, Christians, will be called up to heaven
Atheist142: I once was a Christian, I'm rather familiar with the Christian beliefs...... yessir
supJfreak57: do you know any Christians
Atheist142: most of my friends, yes
Atheist142: they are very nice people :-)
supJfreak57: have you read Revelations
supJfreak57: read it
Atheist142: yes... one of the more interesting books
supJfreak57: again
Atheist142: I have.
Atheist142: I feel no need to go over old myths.
supJfreak57: when your friends disappear then
supJfreak57: read it
supJfreak57: everything that you read will come true
Atheist142: I doubt my friends will "disappear"...
supJfreak57: if they do
supJfreak57: read it
Atheist142: seeing as most of that is treated metaphorically by most people
supJfreak57: if you are still alive
Atheist142: hmm... may I ask you a question?
supJfreak57: if your friends disappear try to talk to me online
supJfreak57: yeah
Atheist142: why do you believe what you do?
supJfreak57: because I can see God working in my life
supJfreak57: for instance
supJfreak57: if i do my devotions and pray to God every day I can see how much more i respect and obey my parents
supJfreak57: when i stop
supJfreak57: it goes all bad
Atheist142: ah...
Atheist142: were you raised in a believing family?
supJfreak57: I knew a kid that was supposed to die
supJfreak57: but pulled out of it because people were praying twenty four hours a day for Him
supJfreak57: him
Atheist142: that is very cool
supJfreak57: i can see miracles
supJfreak57: happen
Atheist142: but... were you raised in a believing family?
supJfreak57: yes
supJfreak57: that has nothing to do with it
Atheist142: ah, very cool :-)
Atheist142: I figured as much, just curious
supJfreak57: i know rebelous kids that were raised in a Christian home
Atheist142: yes, I know
Atheist142: <-- me being one :-)
supJfreak57: i know kids that weren't
supJfreak57: and are great Christians
supJfreak57: can't you see then God's powere
supJfreak57: how can you doubt it
Atheist142: no...
Atheist142: I can very easily... I'm sorry. :-\
supJfreak57: how?
Atheist142: well... those sow the placebo effect if anything. Mind over matter. A powerful thing. and I don't think that is all that bad of a thing,
either :-)
supJfreak57: you may not understand this, but even though i don't know you i have a yearning to see you in heaven
supJfreak57: and i bet your parents do too
Atheist142: my mother
Atheist142: my father left my mother before I was born :-)
supJfreak57: my cousins dad left them
supJfreak57: so
supJfreak57: that is no excuse
supJfreak57: God may use that in your life
Atheist142: well, you said "my parents". No, just my mother.
supJfreak57: if you let Him
Atheist142: a small correction, but I am picky about small details
supJfreak57: you are changing the subject
supJfreak57: i know lots of people that have divorced parents or have a one parent home
Atheist142: I apologize, the parent thing is something I am picky about. and I am not making "excuses" as to why I am an atheist.
Atheist142: I know why I am... and having a dysfunctional home has no effect on my beliefs.
supJfreak57: if you make it through the Tribulation you will know for sure why i didn't want you to have to endure it
supJfreak57: and if you don't get saved and burn forever in Hell you will have this conversation on your mind
supJfreak57: forever and ever
supJfreak57: you will want to die
supJfreak57: the fire will torment you
supJfreak57: the brimstone will fill your nostrills and your mouth
Atheist142: You are not the first to preach at me and you will not be the last. Please, show me some proof of what you say or stop preaching.
supJfreak57: you will want water but there will be none
supJfreak57: you will want companionship but you will be utterly alone
supJfreak57: the truth is in the Bible
supJfreak57: it is a great book
Atheist142: you have not shown evidence to how that is the "truth".
Atheist142: I will admit, it is quite an interesting story
supJfreak57: you have to believe
supJfreak57: and it will come absolutely true
supJfreak57: you will see it
supJfreak57: and want to see it
Atheist142: well, if I already believe, I will put proof where there is none
supJfreak57: you can't see the proof untill you want to
Atheist142: If I want to see proof, I will make proof.
supJfreak57: but not God's truth
supJfreak57: your truth
Atheist142: no, I don't think you understand me
supJfreak57: or proof
supJfreak57: yes i do
supJfreak57: you have no controll over your life
supJfreak57: either the Devil has it or God does
Atheist142: What about "free will"
Atheist142: ?
supJfreak57: right now the Devil is controlling you like a pupit
supJfreak57: free will was given so we could learn from mistakes
supJfreak57: if we follow God we will see how we don't need free will
supJfreak57: God's will is enough
Atheist142: you are beginning to sound a bit ludicrous.
supJfreak57: you wish
Atheist142: if you want me to believe, you must give me proof
Atheist142: or pray to your god to do so.
supJfreak57: God
supJfreak57: and i will
supJfreak57: you are now on my prayer list
Atheist142: ooh goody :-)
Atheist142: hmm...
Atheist142: so what else is new?
Atheist142: :-\ did I scare you away?
supJfreak57: is life exciting for you
Atheist142: hmm... rather, actually :-)
supJfreak57: are you happy?
supJfreak57: truly
Atheist142: yessir
Atheist142: (my apologies if you are not a sir)
supJfreak57: i am
Atheist142: :-) k cool
supJfreak57: do you have a job
Atheist142: no, but that's because I am too young
Atheist142: only 15, so sad.
supJfreak57: me too
Atheist142: :-) well then not so sad
supJfreak57: when you get a skirt or a pair of pants or a shirt is there ever something else you want
supJfreak57: are you satisfied with everthing
Atheist142: I rarely get new clothes... usually I am happy with what I get.
supJfreak57: usually
Atheist142: unless I take it home and it rips 5 minutes after I buy it
Atheist142: then I get POed
supJfreak57: don't you see people and wish you had what they had
Atheist142: no.
supJfreak57: is there a girl in your school more popular than you
Atheist142: Yes. Many :-OP
Atheist142: :-P
Atheist142: Life is too precious to waste on petty things like that though
supJfreak57: do you ever wish you were as popular as they were
Atheist142: no.
supJfreak57: is there anything you want
supJfreak57: do you ever lie
supJfreak57: are you perfect
Atheist142: hmm. Right now a nice cold Mountain Dew would be nice, but I am lazy. I do lie, and I am not perfect.
Atheist142: I don't lie to people who are important to me.
supJfreak57: than you can not be truly content
Atheist142: and I don't think there is such a thing as "perfect"
Atheist142: what is perfect for me may not be for you.
supJfreak57: you seem to nice to be an atheist
Atheist142: :-) atheists are usually nice, once you get to know them.
supJfreak57: but they always hate Christians
Atheist142: nah
Atheist142: :-P
supJfreak57: yeah huh
supJfreak57: go to buddy wizard
Atheist142: my friends are Christians! I can't hate them.
supJfreak57: and go to atheist section
supJfreak57: ask them if they hate Christians
Atheist142: hating a generic group of people is not nice.
Atheist142: very not cool
supJfreak57: do your friends ever talk to you about this
Atheist142: yeah.
Atheist142: they are concerned for me.
supJfreak57: great
supJfreak57: you have good friends
supJfreak57: you will miss them at the Tribulation
supJfreak57: they will miss you in Heaven
supJfreak57: did you know you are breaking there hearts
supJfreak57: their
Atheist142: but they know what I have been through, and they know that they cannot provide the evidence I seek, and most of the time they just
keep the peace... and blah.
supJfreak57: what have you been through
supJfreak57: and what evidence do you seek
Atheist142: I was raised a Christian, was a strong believer... etc. but as time progressed I realized that I had no evidence supporting my faith. I am
always watching for concrete evidence of a god/ess
Atheist142: I miss my child-like faith.
Atheist142: but I am better off with the truth, no?
supJfreak57: you don't have the truth
supJfreak57: you never did apparently
Atheist142: You have not proven otherwise
supJfreak57: yes i have
supJfreak57: you weren't listening
supJfreak57: ""
Atheist142: you have tried, but I don't think that qualifies as proof.
Atheist142: it may be to you, but it really doesn't conclusively prove anything.
supJfreak57: that's cause you are not really searching for the truth
Atheist142: if there is God, he knows what I seek, and he will provide, no?
supJfreak57: you are in a comfort zone and you don't want to come out of it
supJfreak57: He has
supJfreak57: you overlook it
supJfreak57: you want to disagree instead of listen
Atheist142: with flimsy personal stories and anecdotal evidence?
Atheist142: This would not hold up in a court. It does not hold with me. If it does for you, that is very peachy :-).
supJfreak57: the Bible stand like a rock undaunted in the raging storms of time
Atheist142: you use similes but show me no proof.
supJfreak57: read the Bible
Atheist142: I have
Atheist142: several times
supJfreak57: if you truly seek it you will find
Atheist142: If I want to see something bad enough I will make myself see it without any real proof. if I stretch the facts enough they will warp to
whatever perspective I want. I prefer objective opines, danke.
supJfreak57: ask and it shall be given unto you, seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you
supJfreak57: ask God to open your eyes to His truth
Atheist142: that presupposes that God exists.
supJfreak57: and He will
Atheist142: thats putting the cart before the horse.
supJfreak57: you don't want to accept it
Atheist142: you ash Zeus to open your eyes to His truth
Atheist142: and He will too.
supJfreak57: you are a stubborn person
supJfreak57: and only God can take you out of it
supJfreak57: i cannot
supJfreak57: though i wish i could
Atheist142: heh, my best quality... god-given, so to speak
supJfreak57: i don't want you to go to Hell but unless you do not listen
supJfreak57: my work here is done
supJfreak57: i hope you will think about what i have said
Atheist142: there is nothing to think about.
supJfreak57: and not try to defend yourself
supJfreak57: but truly listen to it
supJfreak57: you don't want to believe it
Atheist142: you have given me nothing to think about! if you want to change my mind, give me proof.
supJfreak57: it will be your own fault
Atheist142: *sigh*
Atheist142: I am done with this.
supJfreak57: and you can't blame anyone else when you are burning in Hel
supJfreak57: Hell
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