QBall697: just wanted to know why you don't like God
QBall697: i am not trying to be mean or anything
Atheist142: I can't dislike something I don't believe in... I don't dislike
God.
QBall697: ok sorry
Atheist142: oh, it's no problem :-)
QBall697: why don't you belive in Him?
Atheist142: I don't see any reason to believe in any god/ess, so I don't.
QBall697: so why are you on a rocket sled to hell, if you don't belive in
a hell?
Atheist142: because I like making fun of the idea of hell
QBall697: so why do you think happens when you die?
Atheist142: I think I go 6 feet under and worms eat me :-)
QBall697: how can you imagine not exsisting while exsisting, its a oxy
moron and can not be done
Atheist142: I know, it's mind-boggling, isn't it?
Atheist142: I can imagine not existing... it's probably a lot like sleeping,
minus the dreams.
QBall697: hmm
QBall697: aren't you scared?
Atheist142: honestly, yes
Atheist142: terribly so.
QBall697: so why not believe in God?
Atheist142: because I see no logical reason to.
Atheist142: Just because it'll make me happy doesn't mean I'd be right.
QBall697: what about a spiritaul, faith is not about logic, its about fiath
Atheist142: I can't believe something before I have evidence for it. It's
not all that smart.
QBall697: did you ever belive in santa clause?
Atheist142: yep, when I was little ans stupid.
QBall697: no
Atheist142: and^^^
QBall697: so you don't belive in God because of lack of physical
evidence
Atheist142: lack of any solid evidence, yep yep
QBall697: what about miracles?
QBall697: like the bleeding picture of the virgin mary?
Atheist142: well, I don't know of any miracles that absolutely cannot be
faked
QBall697: how about that one?
Atheist142: that can be faked really easily
QBall697: even after science has examined it and has no explination
Atheist142: really
Atheist142: show me how "science" has examined it...
QBall697: they took the picture, made sure it was just a piece of paper,
wiped the blood off, and more started running down
QBall697: and they were baffled
Atheist142: really, where is this documented?
QBall697: discovery channle
Atheist142: what program, what time?
Atheist142: hmm, I'll go to their website and look it up
QBall697: alright
QBall697: i would feel empty without beliving God
Atheist142: well, than it's good that you do believe in a god :-)
QBall697: you don't ever feel a hole in life, honestly?
Atheist142: only when my boyfriend dumped me, and even WITH a god,
I'd still feel that hole. but now we're best friends, so things are better :-)
QBall697: idk, at night whenever i have problems, i like to talk to God,
just talk, and its good to know that someone is always listening to me
Atheist142: that's great that you have someone :-)
QBall697: well you do too
Atheist142: yes, actually, my friends
QBall697: just cause you are not talking doesn't mean he i snot listening
Atheist142: I can call any one of my friends at any time and they'll listen.
And if anyone at any time wants to talk to me, I'll listen because I know it
helps. I don't need to put my faith in something that I see no evidence
for, because I don't have a hole in my life. My friends are great friends.
QBall697: dont you ever want someone to always watch over you and
protect you, never judge you or fight with you, and accept you no
matter what you have done?
QBall697: because no person can do that
QBall697: and we both know that
Atheist142: I do want that, but there's no evidence for any god, and I'd
prefer to live by truth.
QBall697: well i belive in God, isnt that evidence?
Atheist142: people also believe that Buddha was a god, is that evidence
enough for you?
QBall697: no
QBall697: people think buddha was an enlightened man
Atheist142: some Buddhists believe he was a god
Atheist142: I know a few personally, but if you don't believe me, I won't
push it.
QBall697: i see your point
QBall697: i don't mean to insult you or anything, i am actually
enjoying talking to you, i just wish there was something i could say to
make you at least have a little faith, because God cares about everyone,
and everyone needs faith in their life
Atheist142: I don't "need" faith in my life... why do you think I do?
Atheist142: and you're not being insulting at all :-) you're just sharing
your views with me and I appreciate that you do.
QBall697: to feel that unconditional love, and the fact that knowing
when you die you are going to a better life, so you don't have to fear
death
Atheist142: eh, I prefer truth.
QBall697: meaning
Atheist142: meaning: I see no solid evidence for any god/s so I do not
believe.
Atheist142: the feelings would be NICE, but not truthful to me.
QBall697: are your rents atheist?
Atheist142: no
Atheist142: it's really not very fun
QBall697: i can see how
QBall697: sorry for bringing it up
Atheist142: oh, don't worry. :-)
QBall697: ok, go along with me here
Atheist142: okies
QBall697: suppose there is a God, as i say there is, and when you die
you get the the gates of heaven, and realize that you were wrong your
whole life, and then you see st.peter you think about the burning,
horrible pain you are going to feel for the rest of enternity, that doesn't
scare you?
Atheist142: nope
QBall697: why?
Atheist142: well, if the Christian God is real, I'm screwed.
Atheist142: However, if the Egyptian gods are real, then we're both
screwed
Atheist142: Also, the Greek, Roman, Norse, Aztec, Hindu, Islamic, etc.
gods
Atheist142: are you afraid of ending up in Hades?
QBall697: well, they're not, and by any chance there is no punishment
for not believing in them
QBall697: only islamic, and frankly they belive in the same God
QBall697: just different ways of doing so
Atheist142: yes there is. you ever read about Tantalus in Greek mythos?
He had to stand neck-deep in water with a horrible thirst. If he tried to
bend his head down, the water would recede just out of his reach. That
could be you!
QBall697: no he had to do that because he fed the gods a baby
QBall697: i read greek mythology
Atheist142: :-) good point
Atheist142: what about the Jehovah's Witness's god? or the Christian
Science's god? Have you ever had medical treatment?
Atheist142: or are you one of these and am I an idiot? :-)
QBall697: i have had some pills, and jehovahs witnesses will have
medical treatments, just no transplants and stuff
Atheist142: yes, but not Christian Science peoples
Atheist142: they think that praying is the ONLY (and I mean only) way of
healing oneself... that means NO doctors for ANYTHING.
Atheist142: or else you go straight to Hell.
Atheist142: nice, huh?
QBall697: yea, but God didnt say you can't have medical treatment
Atheist142: but that's what they say! Don't you have any faith? are you
going to renounce your evil doctor-going ways now?
QBall697: i'd like to know what bible they are reading
Atheist142: They have no proof for their beliefs, and so far, neither do
you. And you can believe whatever you want for whatever your reasons,
but unless I have solid evidence, I cannot believe. I'm sorry.
QBall697: you don't have to be sorry for your beliefs
QBall697: i don't want to sound like an ass, i just don't want you to go
to hell
Atheist142: :-) thank you for your caring.
QBall697: of course
QBall697: so where ya from?
Atheist142: Pennsylvania, US... you?
QBall697: Ny, Us
QBall697: US
Atheist142: nice to meet you
QBall697: like wise
Atheist142: after all this talking :-)
QBall697: names Ryan
Atheist142: <--Veronica here
QBall697: cool
Atheist142: glad we've been properly introduced
QBall697: what about morals?
Atheist142: what about them?
QBall697: do you have them? (sorry that sounds bad)
Atheist142: hehehe, no problem, I like direct questions... yes, I do.
Atheist142: actually quite strong ones, IMHO
QBall697: alright, why?
QBall697: and whats IMHO?
Atheist142: In My Humble Opinion
QBall697: oh ok
Atheist142: why? because I don't want to hurt myself or anyone else
unnecessarily.
QBall697: and wheres that sence or right and wrong come from?
Atheist142: I make my own. (waiting for the shock to set in :-))
QBall697: oh it hit bab :-)
QBall697: baby
Atheist142: lol
QBall697: that just brings a whole new set of questions!! you are a lot of
fun to talk to
Atheist142: thanks, I think...
QBall697: no its a compliment
Atheist142: okays, thankies
QBall697: ok what guidelines do you morals follow?
Atheist142: well, I think that there should be no unnecessary suffering for
anyone/anything. There are shades of difference between things that I
consider "bad", but this is the basis for my morality and all of my
decisions are based on this.
Atheist142: err, well, all of my moral-related decisions
QBall697: what about drugs, sex, things along that line
Atheist142: That moral guideline covers about everything, I think.
Atheist142: including drugs/sex
QBall697: ok do you do any of them?
Atheist142: Drugs: no, because I don't really relish bad trips and
premature death.
Atheist142: Sex: only what both participants are emotionally and
physically ready for, and that doesn't cause pregnancy
Atheist142: yes, I am a virgin, people usually ask that around this point
:-)
QBall697: i wasn't going to
Atheist142: oh, sorry, is this a case of too much information? :-\
QBall697: oh no, not at all
Atheist142: okays, good. I don't want to freak anyone ELSE out :-D
QBall697: else?
Atheist142: lol, I tend to freak people out a bit. It's a side effect of being
an athiest Mansonite goth. but I digress...
QBall697: you don't freak me out, i totally repsect your decision
Atheist142: :-) thanks! I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now! But again,
I digress... is there anything else morality-related you wanted to ask?
QBall697: idk
QBall697: i am contect with just talking, that is unless you are pressed
to go or anything
[We finish the converstation with unrelated chat.]
