HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: so how about that guy they call, Jesus?
Atheist142: what about him?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: whaddaya you think?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: You think he died on the cross for your sins?
Atheist142: I don't know if he even existed, much less that.
Atheist142: :-)
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: hrm...
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: so what about the Bible, just think that's a crock?
Atheist142: I think it was either exaggerated in parts or made up,
yes.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: who do you think made it up?
Atheist142: hmm. the authors.
Atheist142: Biblical authorship is not my strong point.
Atheist142: :-)
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: ahh
Atheist142: but I don't think it was all made up.
Atheist142: probably based in some fact, just exaggerated.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: so what exactly do you believe is true that comes from
the Bible?
Atheist142: hmm... Judaism originated in the general Mediteranean
area
Atheist142: there was probably a large flood...
Atheist142: probably a lot of great healers that called themselves
"prophets"
Atheist142: perhaps a man named Jesus who was crucified for being
a political revolutionary
Atheist142: I don't know much beyond that.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: but not a man named Jesus who was the son of God?
Atheist142: probably not, no.
Atheist142: not that I know of, at least
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Well, at least you're open-minded.
Atheist142: gotta be.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: but the Bible does say that there's no three sides.
You're either for em or against em.
Atheist142: any other way would be really... not cool :-P
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: God that is.
Atheist142: yes I know.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: So what about an afterlife?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: you think you just die and your body decays?
Atheist142: *shrug* I suppose then most Christians would presume
me under the influence of "Satan"... and as for an afterlife, I doubt
there is one, but I'll just have to wait and see, no?
Atheist142: :-)
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: So you don't know or care what happens?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Doesn't the thought of hell scare you? It scares me.
Neverending fiery pit...nightmares coming true...all your worst fears multiplied
Atheist142: as of yet, no compelling evidence has been brought to
my attention to support any afterlife... and I think Hell is a myth.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: are you the creator of the website on your profile?
Atheist142: yessir
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: from a viewer's standpoint, it's very well put together.
Atheist142: thank you :-)
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: however
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: from a Christian's standpoint, it frightens me.
Atheist142: how so?
Atheist142: :-\
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: just some of the features
Atheist142: erm... *shrug*
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: tatoosmusicink brought up a good point in your convo
Atheist142: hm?
Atheist142: I hear that name and cringe. *aah* :-)
Atheist142: but what point was that?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: tattoosmusicink: ask them? when you see someone
who's a christian, do you ask them "what exactly
do you mean by 'christian?"
Atheist142: I do, actually.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: and you replied...
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Atheist142: yes... because a Catholic is different from a
Mormon or a JW or a Methodist
Atheist142: they all consider themselves Christian.
Atheist142: sooo I have to ask.
Atheist142: (sorry, I am interrupting you)
Atheist142: Did I ever mention to you that my computer is trying to
thwart any intelligent conversation I have?
Atheist142: I'm sorry, please continue.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: I wish there weren't even denominations to choose from.
I wish we could all quit squabbling and babbling and come together like we're told to
do in the Bible.
Atheist142: I agree
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: (hah, are you trying to throw me off track?)
Atheist142: :-?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Although, I can't quite understand where mormons get
some of their beliefs from.
Atheist142: Joseph Smith
Atheist142: *nods mystically*
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: I know that
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: I mean...
Atheist142: :-)
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Where he got them
Atheist142: an angel descended with Golden Tablets
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: so it is said
Atheist142: and he used them to start the "true religion" of The
Chruch of Jesus Christ f Latter-Day Saints
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: bah
Atheist142: the longest name of any christian denomination ever!
so it must be right! right? right.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: But I love my mormon brothers as I love you and
everyone else.
Atheist142: :-)
Atheist142: that is cool
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: So you do have a basic understanding of what the Bible
is all about?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: and you're well versed in God's commands?
Atheist142: generally, yeah
Atheist142: although some are a bit contradictory
Atheist142: but that is O K
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: That's not what I asked
Atheist142: (I know, just my darned agitative spirit going at it)
Atheist142: sorry... yes, I am generally well-versed
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Well, you know the Bible, and you know what it's all
about. The only thing you don't know is the joy of having Him as your personal lord
and saviour.
Atheist142: hum. well... um... I was a Christian
Atheist142: and a very happy one at that.
Atheist142: but life goes on, people change... :-\
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: And you're not a Christian anymore?
Atheist142: no.
Atheist142: and most people try to tell me I never was one
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: what would make want to change from being a
Christian?
Atheist142: lack of evidence and a hard bent on the truth.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: so you began believing without any evidence?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Doesn't make much sense to me.
Atheist142: I was raised Christian
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Maybe there was something pushing you to believe.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: So?
Atheist142: and then I had child-like faith well after my child-like
mind was years behind me
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: are you saying that Christians have a child-like faith?
Atheist142: no, I am saying that I had child-like faith
Atheist142: and I was a strong believer.
Atheist142: but as time passed, I realized that there was no
evidence behind my belief.
Atheist142: and I was upset at first, and I clung to faith
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: erm...a strong believer with a child-like faith? Didn't
you just contradict yourself?
Atheist142: well... I believed as a child would, with much faith. but I
can't lie to myself very long, and I moved on.....
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: As a child, I cut up in Sunday School and in "big
church", as did everyone my age. But you were actually attentive?
Atheist142: yeah...
Atheist142: my grandparents were very religious, and they
incorporated God into about everything. I was really into it for a
long time.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: you were attentive, and lost your faith. i was not
attentive, and my faith grew and grew as i got older, making me a stronger
Christian.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: God should be incorporated into everything.
Atheist142: hmm...
Atheist142: I disagree with your last statement, but I would,
wouldn't I?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: would what?
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: oh, disagree
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: pardon me, I lose my train of thought quite frequently.
Atheist142: :-) np, I do that too if you haven't noticed
Atheist142: side-tracks are so enticing... :-)
Atheist142: (as I get on another one)
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: in your convo with tattoos, you said you're waiting for
God to tap you on the head.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: perhaps this is the tap you were waiting for.
Atheist142: hehe... perhaps.
Atheist142: he was quite a nice person up until near the end
Atheist142: then I wanted to rip my hari out.
Atheist142: hair
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: I'm getting there.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: does tattoos still go by that screen name?
Atheist142: I don't know, methinks he blocked me.
Atheist142: happens a lot... wonder why...
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: hmm
Atheist142: :-P
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: do you know now that there is proof of noah's ark?
Atheist142: no
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Why do you believe Cliff Walker?
Atheist142: From all appearances he is a truthful person. That is at
the root of his philosophy. And my computer still hates me.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: what about Jesus? Does he not appear truthful?
Atheist142: there is no evidence that he even existed that i know of
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Are you serious?
Atheist142: yessir
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: there is so much proof
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: they found the spot where he was crucified
Atheist142: I don't know about that...
Atheist142: even if he did exist, I don't think he was the Son of God
(and it would be hard to prove that one)
Atheist142: :-\
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: bah
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: Sorry to cut our conversation short, but I'm extremely
tired.
Atheist142: bah right back at ya :-)
Atheist142: and alrighty
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: we could talk again if you'd like
Atheist142: that would be cool.
Atheist142: I like you! :-)
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: I love you.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: heh
Atheist142: :-D I feel loved
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: You are, by all those who are Christians.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: We're just a big ol' loving bunch.
HeAdBaNgErWiLlIe: I suppose I'll talk to you again soon though.
