Atheist142: Because I don't have any good reason to be otherwise.
Atheist142: Hello to you too :-).
EmbracedByFlames: Yes Hello
EmbracedByFlames: What reasoning do you lack?
EmbracedByFlames: Do you think its irrational to believe in god?
Atheist142: Not necessarily... I just don't see any reason to myself.
EmbracedByFlames: Do you think its a load and impossible for that to be
EmbracedByFlames: Oh . Well Going to hell isnt reason enough?
EmbracedByFlames: Do you need proof or something?
Atheist142: I don't believe in Hell... so it's not really factoring in.
Atheist142: Yeah.
EmbracedByFlames: Well I have some info thatmay or may not change you, but Ill give it a shot...., well first
off I used to be complete athiest, i though science completely prooved religion wrong, but later I
figured that its impossible for their not be a god.
Atheist142: hm... how so?
Atheist142: I mean, impossible for there not to be one.
EmbracedByFlames: Im not ahuge religous "gota go to church every week" type of person, but if you have an
electron and add one Quadrillionth of its weight to it then the atom would collapse, and we would be
nothing, and nothing would exist, something like that says there is something designing it
Atheist142: hmm... I don't know.
EmbracedByFlames: Because there is soo much order to everything Its Absolutely impossible for the human
body to come about without something making it
Atheist142: I don't agree with you, but that is otay. :-)
EmbracedByFlames: I mean just look at the way the eye recieves light, and transfers it to the barin, the brain
flips it and gives you an image (theres a million more steps to)
Atheist142: the eye is rather imperfect....
Atheist142: I dunno.
Atheist142: My eyes kinda suck. I'm nearsighted.
EmbracedByFlames: Oh But coming from Nothing it is So Perfect
Atheist142: I don't think it comes from "nothing"
EmbracedByFlames: Well juts look at the rest of your body. Your ears, your heart keeping the beat, and
keeping you alive, theres no way youre bodywould be created the way it is with the veins and arteries,
all the cells for each organ,
EmbracedByFlames: Just the way your barin sends messages to your hand to type tome now is simply
incredibl with the electric impulses
Atheist142: I don't think it was "created"... I go with evolution, which makes sense to me...
Atheist142: If you don't then that's peachy. :-)
EmbracedByFlames: yeah evolution is true I know that
EmbracedByFlames: I dont believe in adam and eve
Atheist142: well then... what's the problem?
Atheist142: or am I just putting problems where there are none?
Atheist142: :-\
EmbracedByFlames: yeha I know, why dont you just look at the atoms then? What i said is absolutely true.
its proven, I mean if you add or subtract one electron or proton it becomes a completely different
substance
Atheist142: well, you can change the number of electrons, it's the number of protons that counts
Atheist142: and that's because it changes its weight by a lot.
Atheist142: and its structure, and its magnetic pull... blah blah blah
EmbracedByFlames: Like Oxygen and helium, gold, lead, mercury, they are formed from the exact same sub
atomic particles, but only because there are a few more or less of them then the element is completely
changed
EmbracedByFlames: yeah my bad.
Atheist142: yes, but that's because protons change the whole weight and magnetism (and properties) of the atom... it's not all that surprising to me.
EmbracedByFlames: But electrons to, If theyre weight is changed By a QUADRILLIONTH of its weight (do
you realixze how small that is?!?!) it would collapse and nothing would be in existence, and to say that
they were made from nothing and be so orderedand designed and perfect is amazing
Atheist142: I doubt that.
EmbracedByFlames: yeah But ONE proton, Their the exact same proton in every single element, it changes
its color, smell (if it has one) appearance, texture, weight, Everything about it ... Whether its a gas,
solid, or liquid, how durable it is, its glimmer, its mass, noises it makes when hit with any other object
EmbracedByFlames: No my friend it is proven,
EmbracedByFlames: Theyve done it to a particle before, and the atom did collapse
EmbracedByFlames: We can do amazing things today
Atheist142: it doesn't change whether it is a gas, solid or liquid... all elements can be all three... and I doubt what you say, unless you can show me a
source for that... it doesn't sound right.
EmbracedByFlames: yeah I read it in several places, Discover magazine, scientific American, from a college
book in whivh mybrother got for his class, Friends told me that, when i knew about it but never had to
mention it to them... they just told me thinking it was interesting
Atheist142: I mean, about the quadrillionth thing... that just sounds really off... and I get Discover Mag.
EmbracedByFlames: yeah as do I, Well it may seem weird, But science isnt normal man if youve noticed.
EmbracedByFlames: well.. its normal, but its not very simple, or on a broad scale
Atheist142: It is spiffy.
Atheist142: :-)
EmbracedByFlames: The most minut things can make the biggest differences.
Atheist142: yeah...
EmbracedByFlames: That it is
EmbracedByFlames: and at night just look at the stars and shit (not tryin to sound like a girl) but look at the
sky, put your thumnb out and if you put your thumb at ANY point in the sky there are over 6 trillion
GALAXIES behind the tip of your thumb nail
Atheist142: hmm... very cool.
EmbracedByFlames: That it is, Just things like that made me think its very much harder to imagine that there
is no god
EmbracedByFlames: and if there is no god then why dont you just kill yourself now? It wouldnt matter at all.
Atheist142: Because I personally like life.
Atheist142: I only get one chance, might as well make the best of it, no?
EmbracedByFlames: at least people with god have something to look forward to after death, I mean Id be so
depressed knowing that if I die tomorrow I will never see or feel anything again for all eternity
Atheist142: It's not cheerful, but I don't see any reason to believe it's any other way, with or without a god/ess.
EmbracedByFlames: Why make the best of it? Why not go kill people, and have sex constantly, and do drugs
and make yourself feel great
EmbracedByFlames: theres nothin stopping you,
EmbracedByFlames: But I dont to dream, and I dont need to dance, causethe champion baby dont even need
PPAANNTTSSS!!!!
Atheist142: lol
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