bchbum566: i really must apologize
Atheist142: for what?
bchbum566
: i promised you an answer, but i was gone all day and didn't have time to research
Atheist142: oh, that's okay
Atheist142
: no biggie :-)
bchbum566: tomorrow is church and i can research there
bchbum566: are you a girl
Atheist142: yep
bchbum566
: funny, i don'[t picture you as one
Atheist142: heh, I get that a lot
Atheist142
: most people think I'm a cynical 45 year old man...isn't that odd :-P
bchbum566: you talk like one
Atheist142: is that good or bad...?
bchbum566
: actually i thought you were a 16 or 17 year old guy
bchbum566: very good, most teenagers can't handle this kind of convbersation for very long
Atheist142: I feel special :-)
bchbum566: youa re
bchbum566: i love talking to people who can hold a conversation with me
bchbum566: i had an eleven year old buddhist say i was stupid
Atheist142: that's really intelligent!
bchbum566
: i know
bchbum566: she couldn't explain to me why she wiorshipped a dead guy
bchbum566: i haved a question
bchbum566: doesn;'t it take more faith to believe there is no god then to believe there is
Atheist142: I don't believe there is no god
bchbum566
: then what do you believe
Atheist142: I just lack the belief in god--I have no belief
bchbum566
: then you are agnostic
bchbum566: athiestic agnostic
Atheist142: no, agnostics believe that we do not or cannot know whether there is a god or not
Atheist142
: I was one once, it didn't suit me well
bchbum566
: athiests, i thought, believe in the lack of a god
Atheist142: some do, but most just don't have a belief
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bchbum566: everybody has a belief, even if you believe in nothing
Atheist142: no, I don't believe in nothing
Atheist142
: I jsut lack a belief
bchbum566
: do you believe the belief in god is irrational; to the point of absurdity
bchbum566: and is extremely harmful
Atheist142: in certain gods, I think it's harmful, like the Heaven's Gate, and some I think doesn't make sense, like some people tell me that the Christian god is, but it depends on the god-claim
bchbum566
: am i wrong to believe what i believe
Atheist142: no
bchbum566
: do you think it is hard being an athies
bchbum566: t
Atheist142: it can be hard, yes
bchbum566
: do people tend to find it hard to understand
Atheist142: some people do, yes.
bchbum566
: do you think people are just christian because of comfort
Atheist142: no, of course not
bchbum566
: but you believe athiesm is true
bchbum566: or do you believe it because it is the only thing that seems accurate
Atheist142: I'm an atheist because I've never seen any evidence for any god, that's all.
bchbum566
: what about the beach and sunsets and trees and creation
Atheist142: what about them are you asking me?
bchbum566
: what created them
bchbum566: i know i have asked you that before
bchbum566: bear with me
Atheist142: they weren't created, to my knowledge
bchbum566
: how did they get ther
bchbum566: e
Atheist142: trees through evolution, sunsets, well, it's a big thing about properties of light and refraction that I never quite understood but did pass a test on, the beach was made through the water pounding on the rocks to erode tiny bits of it and such to wash sand up on the side of continents, or something to that general effect, and creation, well, I don't know of any "Creation" so I can't tell you
Atheist142
: Blah lots of typing :-)
bchbum566: so it all came about by chance
Atheist142: well, chance plus a few laws like gravitation and quantum laws which I haven't even begun to understand, plus "survival of the fittest"
Atheist142
: it's the best theory that I know of
bchbum566
: that is darwin's theory
bchbum566: that is evolution
Atheist142: yup yup
bchbum566
: but hasnt that been proven worng
Atheist142: not that I know of
bchbum566
: how old isthe earth
Atheist142: I think something like 6 billion years old
Atheist142
: 6.something billion
bchbum566
: where did you get that
Atheist142: science class
bchbum566
: but you really have no other proof besides what your teacher says
Atheist142: well, if you wanted I could probably look up some astronomy websites and give you some exact figures, should I?
bchbum566
: please
Atheist142: okies, hang on a few seconds
Atheist142
: I was mistaken, I apologize
Atheist142
: The best estimates of Earth's age are obtained by calculating the time required for development of the observed lead isotopes in Earth's oldest lead ores. These estimates yield 4.54 billion years as the age of Earth and of meteorites, and hence of the solar system.
Atheist142
: From http://books.nap.edu/html/creationism/ ; It'
Atheist142
: it's the National Academy of Sciences
bchbum566
: thank you
Atheist142: welcome :-)
bchbum566: can you tell this is one of my favorite subjects
Atheist142: I think you mentioned that sometime before
bchbum566
: i'm sorry but can we finish this conversation later
Atheist142: oh, sure
bchbum566
: thanks
bchbum566: talk to you later
Atheist142: cyas
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