Atheist142: okay, and what exactly am I looking for?
AntsLH12: Cellular respiration is the process of oxidizing food
molecules, like glucose, to carbon dioxide and water. The energy released is
trapped in the form of ATP for use by all the energy-consuming activities of the
cell.
Atheist142: yeeesss...
AntsLH12: keep going
AntsLH12: oxygen plays a small role in respiration
Atheist142: I'm in the overview... it seems to be essential in
the later stages, in the organisms that have a later stage...
Atheist142: but I'm only in Bio 1
AntsLH12: wrong
AntsLH12: it is ony essential near the end
AntsLH12: and plays a dinky little role
AntsLH12: and when you look at it
AntsLH12: you just about scream
AntsLH12: "When i suffocate and nearly die, it's because of
that!!!!???"
Atheist142: note: I wrote "in the later stages" and I'm not
seeing what I'm supposed to be looking for here...
AntsLH12: well
AntsLH12: i am no AP Bio teacher
AntsLH12: i hate biology lol
Atheist142: and it plays an essential part, no matter how
"dinky" it may seem... at least that's what my Bio teacher made it seem
like...
AntsLH12: it is essential
AntsLH12: but so devastatingly simple
AntsLH12: it breaks down stuff
AntsLH12: that's all oxygen does
Atheist142: yes, and that's rather important, no?
AntsLH12: yes
AntsLH12: but what does it break down
AntsLH12: ?
AntsLH12: answer: everything
AntsLH12: including your own cells!!!
Atheist142: really? where does it say that?
Atheist142: I'm not seeing it
AntsLH12: sheeshhh
AntsLH12: make a few inferenes and think for yourself for once
AntsLH12: if you are so afraid of being wrong you simply do not
want to try
AntsLH12: inferences
Atheist142: look, I may be inferring wrong, and I am really
doubting this from you.
Atheist142: And I'm bad at inferring, especially with my lack
of knowledge.
AntsLH12: okok
AntsLH12: i went out and got my binder from my car
Atheist142: I can tell you myself that I'm insecure!
Atheist142: I am an insecure person
AntsLH12: your fear of being wrong is so strong that when
someone may be giving you the right answer, you will not listen because they do
not have enough "proof"
AntsLH12: that is dangerous
Atheist142: well, you did not give any proof so I could not
accept you. You gave proof and now I believe you. :-) happy?
AntsLH12: no
AntsLH12: you did not believe or trust
AntsLH12: which was the point of this littel experiment
Atheist142: yes, because If I did that to everyone, I'd be very
gullible.
AntsLH12: no
Atheist142: yes.
AntsLH12: you'd learn
Atheist142: no, I'd be a blind idiot.
AntsLH12: the only way to learn is through mistakes
AntsLH12: then consider me a blind idiot
AntsLH12: do i seem a blind idiot?
Atheist142: about some things... you had to ask!
Atheist142: but I'll listen to you anyway, or I'd be worse than
a blind idiot, no?
AntsLH12: about what am i a blind idiot?
AntsLH12: i want to know
Atheist142: you haven't shown me any evidence for any god,
especially not the Christian one... but if you have any, I'm listening.
AntsLH12: i was at the camp
AntsLH12: and i was listening to all the answers they gave me
AntsLH12: they made sense
AntsLH12: so
Atheist142: you told me your personal story, but you never
told me any answers yourself.
AntsLH12: i wasn't done
Atheist142: oh, I'm sorry... continue
AntsLH12: you interrupted remember?
Atheist142: oh go ahead, continue continue
AntsLH12: well i heard somethng about saturday night
AntsLH12: it was supposed to be some big deal
AntsLH12: i asked what the heck happened on saturday night
AntsLH12: they kept saying you'll see
AntsLH12: it ticked me off
AntsLH12: well
AntsLH12: i found out it was something called a healing mass
AntsLH12: where God's Holy Spirit would be very strong
AntsLH12: and strange things happened
Atheist142: I heard about those!
AntsLH12: ahem
AntsLH12: anyways
Atheist142: go head... :-\
AntsLH12: ;-)
AntsLH12: :D
AntsLH12: ok
AntsLH12: i go in
AntsLH12: and we start singing
AntsLH12: i suck at singing
AntsLH12: but i do anyways, cuz it seemed right
AntsLH12: well
AntsLH12: i closed my eyes as we began to sing
AntsLH12: and suddenly i felt as if i was losing my balance
AntsLH12: i almost fell over
AntsLH12: i figured i shouldn't close my eyes anymore
AntsLH12: well
AntsLH12: we stood up and sang another song
AntsLH12: this time
AntsLH12: i had to sit down
AntsLH12: in the middel of a mass!
AntsLH12: when i'm supposed to be standing up
AntsLH12: ,iddle
AntsLH12: sheesh!
AntsLH12: anyway
AntsLH12: it suddenly feels like fire is washing all over me
AntsLH12: i cannot even contain it
AntsLH12: my body begins to shake like something so full it is abou
tot burst open
AntsLH12: about to
AntsLH12: i felt so very at peace
AntsLH12: i had not a care n the world
Atheist142: that's nice
AntsLH12: i knew that God loved me, i knew it
AntsLH12: and you could give a crap less
AntsLH12: because this is not a statistic
AntsLH12: nevermind
Atheist142: no, I think it's very good that you feel that way
AntsLH12: great, but i do not tell the stroy for my own benefit
AntsLH12: there was my proof
AntsLH12: explain it back to me
Atheist142: you had a vivid personal experience.
Atheist142: therefore you believe.
AntsLH12: you are a fool
AntsLH12: can you not trust the mistakes of those made before
you?
Atheist142: how am I a fool?
AntsLH12: or do you have to make the mistake yourself?
Atheist142: how am I a fool?
AntsLH12: here is the Truth
Atheist142: truth, with a capital T
AntsLH12: sure it might not be
AntsLH12: but what have you got to lose?
Atheist142: my dignity
AntsLH12: your dignity!??!?!
Atheist142: yes my dignity!
AntsLH12: people already look down on you for atheism!
Atheist142: I know, and poo to them!
Atheist142: I have to live with myself before I live with others!
AntsLH12: then why can't you go with that mentality to try
christianity?
Atheist142: because I can't live with myself knowing that
there's no evidence for what I believe.
AntsLH12: i just gave you evidence
Atheist142: no, you gave me a vivid personal experience
AntsLH12: what loaded words
AntsLH12: you cannot even use your own language
AntsLH12: yuo are at the whims of others
Atheist142: I was looking for facts, statistics, etc.
AntsLH12: how's that working for you?
Atheist142: How am I?
AntsLH12: got any answers lately?
Atheist142: nope, and still looking
AntsLH12: you will never find one
Atheist142: whatever you want to believe
AntsLH12: for the answer is not within a set of statistics
AntsLH12: Men believe God to be the Being than which none
greater can be thought. It is greater to exist in reality and in the understanding
than to exist in the understanding alone. Therefore, it is contradictory to hold that
God exists only in the intellect, for then the being than which none greater can be
thought is one than which a greater can be thought, namely, one that exists both
in reality and in the understanding.
AntsLH12: "Whatever is contained in a clear and distinct idea of a
thing must be predicated of that thing; but a clear and distinct idea of an
absolutely perfect Being contains the notion of actual existence; therefore since
we have the idea of an absolutely perfect Being such a Being must really exist."
3. Leibniz: "God is at least possible since the concept of Him as the Infinite
implies
AntsLH12: no contradiction; but if He is possible He must exist
because the concept of Him involves existence."
Atheist142: I can concieve of Santa Claus, does he exist too
now?
AntsLH12: saint claus?
AntsLH12: yes he did
Atheist142: Santa Claus, the American tradition...
Atheist142: the fat man in red who lives under the North Pole
who gives gifts every Christman
Atheist142: I can concieve of him, does he exist
Atheist142: ?
AntsLH12: no he does not
Atheist142: but I can conceive of him@
AntsLH12: for simply because you say so , things do not appear
Atheist142: that seems to be the argument here
AntsLH12: no it is not
Atheist142: then what is it?
AntsLH12: you jumped to a conclusion too quickly
Atheist142: explain it, please.
AntsLH12: and did not read
Atheist142: you're right. please explain it.
AntsLH12: because you are only caring about being right, rather
than learning
Atheist142: no, I'm too lazy to read right now, although I'm
probably going to later.
AntsLH12: because your heart is not in question of whether santa
claus exists
Atheist142: actually, I was really upset about that when I was
little...
AntsLH12: your heart was made by God
Atheist142: you haven't proved that.
AntsLH12: and yearns to return for him
Atheist142: you've assumed that.
AntsLH12: shut up
AntsLH12: and listen
Atheist142: *sigh* go ahead
AntsLH12: you honeslty need to learn to shut up
Atheist142: tell me what you want me to hear and get on with
it.
AntsLH12: why else would you be so up in arms over this?
AntsLH12: no
AntsLH12: you are no longer listening
Atheist142: okay, then lecture me about it.
AntsLH12: our discussion is over
AntsLH12: the main thing about believing
Atheist142: as you wish, although I'm alway open if you want
to talk :-)
AntsLH12: is you have to try
AntsLH12: no
AntsLH12: you are more closed than anyone i've ver talked to
AntsLH12: except myself
Atheist142: alright, so you tall me what I think, although
you're not me...
Atheist142: tel^^
Atheist142: tell^^ aah can't spell
AntsLH12: good night
Atheist142: nighty night!
AntsLH12: God Bless
Atheist142: no thanks
AntsLH12: if you truly seek Truth
AntsLH12: too bad
AntsLH12: if you truly seek truth
AntsLH12: you have to accept something
Atheist142: if that makes you feel better...
AntsLH12: it has nothing to do with me
Atheist142: are you done ranting, or do you have something pertinent to
say?
AntsLH12 signed on at 11:47:34 PM.
AntsLH12: i have nothing logical to say
Atheist142: I figured that one out a while ago...
AntsLH12 signed off at 11:56:37 PM.
