C = Christian    M = Muslim

Christian Muslim Dialogue

The following is a speech given openly in the streets by an unknown Muslim in America. The first part has been deleted but the rest is there. This is also a Christian Muslim Dialogue. 

M. Another false religion, the religion of materialism. That wealth equals happiness. Have lots of money, the western society tells you. Buy this, have this, buy this, have your holiday there, do this here and do that there. After all, happiness, what’s happiness helping an old lady cross the road, no. Happiness is a cigar called Hamlet. And if you eat this to good to be true ice cream, a hunky chunky man will do your washing up for you, and your supplies will arrive by helicopter everyday. And if you were drinking Bacardi, Oh if you’re drinking Bacardi it doesn’t matter, it could be a rainy Sunday night in Peck ham, but it will be like you’re in paradise, if you’re drinking Bacardi. That’s what they tell you people. You have to have money and you have to be famous and you have to look like Naomi Campbell or Cindy Crawford or Richard Geere or Sylvester Stallone. You have to look like them be like them dress like them walk like them talk like them, be successful like them and then you’ll be happy then have all you want in life. All you have to do is lose another 10lb, get yourself nice and thin, that’s how you’ll be happy, but it’s a lie. 

M. Happiness does not come from being rich. Happiness does not come from having money. Happiness does not come from looking like Naomi Campbell, no people. That’s not happiness. If that was happiness Marilyn Monroe would not have killed herself. If that was the key to happiness, Marilyn Monroe would not have killed herself, and you wouldn’t read everyday about another pop star another film star dying of drug overdoses, telling us how miserable his life is, no. Wealth does not equal happiness, money does not make you happy, and you know that. You know it’s a lie, you know it’s a lie and all you have to do is look around you with your eyes. Why do you drink so much, why do you take drugs, why do you have to go to that Odeon cinema over there and watch whatever the latest thing whatever it is, ehh “Die hard” and you sit and watch “Neighbours”. What is it? What is all of this about? It’s all fantasy, it’s all fantasy, it’s all escapism hah. So if you’re so happy, why are you trying to escape all the time. If you’re so happy, why are you trying to run away? Because these things provide you with a source of temporary artificial happiness. 

M. That’s why you find western society is rushing, rushing and rushing headlong into more and more materialism, because you can never get enough. You can never get enough money, you can never be beautiful enough, you can never be famous enough, you can never reach the end. Because the more you get, the more you want, and the more unhappy you get. Happiness is not having money, but happiness is the state of the heart people, happiness is the state of the heart, and that’s what’s it about the heart. Not what’s in your hand, but what’s in your heart. That’s what the prophet Muhammad said. He said “the real wealth is contentment” the real wealth is contentment. Subhanallah, but this society is teaching you a lie. 

M. And now you find the people, trying to find spirituality. Spirituality, that’s what they call it now. We need spirituality, what’s spirituality. Some guy worships the tree now, and that’s spirituality. Oh we found so much spirituality. Back to worshipping trees is that what it’s come down to. Back to worshipping trees. Now these trees, that you find these tree worshippers now. You find them, I’m not saying you know not that I like trees be cut up and motorways to be built. No that’s not what I’m saying. But you find these people now they chain themselves to trees in order for a motorway to stop being built. Now if the tree was worthy of being worshipped, you wouldn’t have to chain yourself to it to protect it. Surely you worship something because it’s going to do something for you. You pray to it and you sacrifice to it because you think it’s got some power, it’s going to help you and benefit you, but the tree can’t save it self. What sort of nonsense is that. And but this is now they call it spirituality. So how loss we become. 

M. I watched a program last night “The people’s Parliament” right, on the people’s Parliament they were debating about prostitution. They were debating about prostitution, and one guy said to the priest. He said “listen, the church has changed, the church has changed on homosexuality, the church has changed on divorce, the church has changed on women’s priest. Isn’t it about time the church changed on prostitution as well”. I thought yep that’s it that’s Christianity for you, that’s democracy for you, that’s democracy. Did anything go there’s no moral’s, there’s no morality. They change it every single day. 

M. Who knows one day they’ll be debating are we allowed to bugger off our three year old children, oh why not. The church has changed on homosexuality, the church has changed on abortion, the church has changed on prostitution now, the church has changed on everything, so why not change on buggering a three year old child, why not. What’s there it doesn’t matter after all cause Jesus has died for your sins. Do what you like cause Jesus has died for your sins. What’s sort of religion is that. Think about it now think about the mentality. The guy right, he’s just about to go and rape someone, he thinks wait a minute if I rape someone, I have to stand in front of god on the day of judgement and maybe he’ll punish me, but then he goes oh no wait a minute doesn’t matter cause Jesus has died for my sins, he’s already paid the price. That is, you shake your head, but that is the mentality you may, I may agree with you that that’s not what Christianity preaches, but that’s the mentality it breeds. Which is a proof that it’s a false religion. That’s the mentality. 

M. Now, the Muslim is not like that, Islam is different. You see when the Muslim, he’s thinking I’m gonna stand in front of Allah on the day of judgement and he’s gonna judge me according to every single atoms weight of good that I’ve done, and every single atoms weight, and being a Muslim is not going to save me from Allah’s punishment, no. God is gonna judge me according to my deeds, according to my deeds, that’s how I’m going to be judged. 

M. That a Muslim prays five times a day, and when a Muslim prays five times a day, in every single prayer he says at least two, sometimes three, sometimes four times “Alhamdulillah Hirabbil Alamin, Ar Rahman nir Raheem, Maliki Yaw Middin”, which means “All the praise is due to Allah, lord of the worlds, the beneficent, the merciful”, so we remember that god is forgiving, he is merciful and he is kind and compassionate, but then we also remember “Maliki Yaw Middin” “Master of the day of judgement”. That’s the real reality, the day of judgement. One day of 50,000 years, one day of 50,000 years when we will stand in front of our lord, no money no power, no one to save us nothing to benefit us, the only thing that will benefit us is our deeds. Our deeds, did we worship Allah, did we follow the way of the prophet, did we do what he commanded us to do, did we leave those things that he commanded us to leave. That’s what’s good and that’s what’s evil. That’s what we have to think about. 

M. “Maliki Yaw Middin” “Master of the day of judgement”. One day people will think about it for 50,000 years. One day when you will stand naked, naked in front of your lord, naked, nothing, you wont have anything and Allah will say to people “If you had the world now, If you had the world twice over, would you ransom it, would you ransom it to save yourself from the fire” and everyone will say yes, yes. I will ransom the world twice over on the day of judgement. So what’s wrong with us people. 

M. Are we waiting for the day of judgement to come, are we waiting for the angels to come on the clouds, and Allah to come, are we waiting for. What are we waiting for? Jesus to come down to fight the Antichrist, to destroy all the unbelievers, to break the cross, to break the cross and kill the pig. Are you waiting for Jesus to come and slaughter the Christians, because that’s what he’ll do. Jesus will come to fight the Christians. Yes, the people who say that he’s god, and he’s the son of god, and they think he died on the cross, Jesus will come to fight them, because that is the Antichrist. The Antichrist are the Christians. 

(this is where the dialogue with a Muslim and some Christians start) 

M. They are the ones that converted the message of Jesus, they’ve changed the message of Jesus, Jesus told them worship God and they worshipped him. 

C. You don’t need to be Muslim to Know Jesus. 

M. You have to be a Muslim to know Jesus. 

C. No 

M. Because if you’re a Christian, you won’t know Jesus, all you would know is lies about Jesus. All Christianity teaches you is lies about Jesus. That’s the reality. Christianity, you want to know the Antichrist, Christianity is the Antichrist. Jesus was not crucified, he was not stuck on a cross. 

C. Yes he was. 

M. And Jesus is not god, nor is he the son of god. Jesus was a messenger of God and he was the messiah to the children of Israel. 

C. He is God. 

M. Listen, Listen to this. She’s saying he’s God. 

C. He is God. 

M. He is god right. 

C. Show me a better God. 

M. Let me ask you a question. Yeah I’ll tell you a better god. I believe in a god, I believe in a god right, that you cant stick on a cross and kill. What’s sort of god is that. Wait a minute Wait a minute. Listen to this Listen to this. 

C. He loves me. 

M. I want to ask you a question. He loved me, He loved me, that’s what she says. What we already been through that. 

(Loads of Christians screaming and shouting) 

Wait a minute. According to these Christians, I cant answer two questions at the same time. I’ll be, I’ll be delighted to answer all the questions of the Christians, because they’re just are an evidence against themselves. So here she’s talking about the Christian god of love. Now this Christian god of love that she calls. 

(More Christians screaming and shouting) 

M. Listen to them, Listen to them they cant shut up for a second. Why! Why cant they be quite, because they’re afraid your gonna hear the truth. They’re afraid for you to hear the truth. There’s a Christian preacher over there, there’s another Christian preacher over there, all full of Christian preachers. But the Christians have to come here because they want to subdue hearing the truth. So People. 

(Even more Christians screaming and shouting) 

M. Listen to them, Like I said they proof against themselves, they proof against themselves. 

C. You’re practising heathen. 

M. How am I practising heathen? I believe in one god. How am I heathen, how am I heathen. Tell me how am I heathen. Go on. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. How am I heathen, go on. 

C. You don’t believe in angels. 

M. You don’t even know what makes someone a heathen. I believe in one god. I believe in one, excuse me, a heathen, a heathen is an idol worshipper that’s what a heathen is if you look it in a dictionary. Those are the ones that David and Joshua they went into a palace 

C. And another word 

M. They bloody cant shut up for a minute. You see people, you see people. He cant let me finish, he doesn’t wanna hear, he doesn’t wanna hear the truth. He cant let me finish it’s not in his nature, because Christians don’t let people think. The moment you start thinking you will leave Christianity. The moment you start thinking you will abandon Christianity, Alhamdulillah (All the praise is due to Allah) like so many of mankind are doing, like myself, ten years in a monastery I spent people, they cant teach me anything about Jesus or Christianity. I spent ten years. And they say you see listen to them now, what do you know about, what’s a monastery got to do with Christianity. See how they hate each other. You see this one, she says no you have to be poor. 

M. So as for those people in monasteries, who dedicate their life to studying the Bible and worshipping Jesus, and to worshipping god, they’re not Christians. That’s what they say, that’s what they say. I used to believe in Jesus. I used to believe he was God, and the son of god. 

(Someone’s cracking jokes at the man) 

M. The holy spirit is telling as jokes now, Right. 

C. Where’s my AK47.

M. Anyway people, Let’s get back to Jesus. I used to believe all this, I used to believe all this nonsense. I used to believe this nonsense. I used to believe this, you see how, look at him, look at that, you see people that’s what it’s come down to. You see a man he cant discuss, he cant talk, he knows he’s got nothing, now he wants to come. First of all he came trying to avenge Jesus, but now all he can do is make jokes. But that’s fine people cause that’s just a testimony against Christianity. Alhamdulillah (All the praise is due to Allah) and I’m a testimony against Christianity. 

C. You have not answered my question. Do you have one bad thing to mention about Jesus Christ? 

M. Do I have a bad thing to mention about Jesus Christ. Wait, I’ll tell you something, do I have a bad thing to mention about Jesus Christ. No I’m asking you a question, I’ll you a question. Which Jesus Christ, which Jesus Christ? 

C. The lord 

M. Your Jesus Christ in your Bible or the true Jesus Christ? 

C. The one in Koran. 

M. The one in the Qur’an then of course he is the true Jesus Christ. However the one in the Bible, the one in the Bible, the Jesus Christ in the Bible, according to these Christians, who said that he was God and who said that he was the son of god, then I don’t have anything good to say about a man who says he’s god, because anyone who says he’s god, is a liar, he’s a liar, anyone who says he’s god, is a liar. 

C. You are the liar, you are the liar. 

M. Can anyone put up their hands, anyone whose read the bible here. Whose actually read the Bible? A Muslim, a Muslim? How many read the Bible from cover to cover? 

C. You are making false statements my dear! 

M. I wanna ask you a question. In the Bible, in the Bible in the book of John if you look at it, it says “I am God, not man”, “I am God, not man.” 

C. Of course, of course not man. 

M. Now I want to ask you a question. Can you kill God? 

C. Yes, yes you can. 

M. Listen, she said yes. 

C. You are making false statements. 

M. In the Bible, in the Bible it says that God is the ever living who never dies. And now what you find is, you have to ask, who’s lying, who is lying? Are the Christians lying about Jesus, Are the Christians lying about the Bible? You’ll find the reality is yes. Because there is nowhere in the Bible that 

C. Yes, yes there is. 

M. There is nowhere in the Bible that Jesus actually categorically said I am God worship me. There is nowhere, where Jesus categorically says to people I am God worship me. 

C. He said I am lord, your making false statements. 

M. I am lord? 

C. You should be ashamed of yourself lying. 

M. So what! Wait a minute, wait a minute. First of all. 

C. You are lying, you are lying. 

M. Listen, Listen, She says, right, she says that Jesus said I am lord. You see now. 

C. You are lying, because everybody can read the Bible. 

M. Why don’t you be quite. Excuse me, you can all read the Bible. In what Language will you read the Bible, in what Language will you read the Bible? You’ll read in English, right. 

C. No I read it in Arabic. 

M. And English is the translation of, this man says he can read Greek. But what I want to know is, where is the Aramaic Bible? Because Jesus spoke in Aramaic. 

C. It’s there. Whatever you. 

M. It’s where? Whose lying now. You wont find one 

C. Shut up. 

M. You open any, go to the British Museum, go and ask any scholar, Right. I wish I brought it with me, I have a book at home called “The five Gospels”, produced by the Jesus Seminar which is a collection of over 40 of the top scholars, biblical Christian scholars in the world, OK. Do you know what they said in this book, do you know what it says in this book? They said that originally the earliest documents of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John were distributed anonymously. The actual names Mathew, Mark, Luke and John were nothing to do until 325 years after Jesus, OK. So they say they don’t even know who wrote the Gospels. They don’t even know who wrote them. And as this claim we got the Bible in Aramaic, it’s a lie. There’s no Bible in Aramaic. It doesn’t exist. Until she said Jesus called himself lord that if you know the Hebrew language and you understand, the word lord is the same as the word Rabbi, Rabbi, that’s what they used to call him, Rabbi, It doesn’t mean lord as in god.

M. In fact Jesus said according to the Bible, I am going to my Father and your Father, my God and your God. So that’s saying that Jesus had a God. Does God have a God?

Jesus according to the Bible had a God. He prayed to a God, He worshipped a God, when he needed something, he asked his god to help him. Surely he was helpless without the power of God. Just like any other man. Yet these liars say. And they blaspheme against God, and they lie against Jesus when they accused him of uttering the worst lie, the worst blasphemy when they claimed he said he was God. Glory be to Allah above such a thing, and Jesus the prophet of God is a pure man to utter such a lie and such a blasphemy and make such a false claim for himself. Jesus was a messenger, he came to teach the Jews to re remind them of how to live and worship God according to the law of Moses. He was the messiah for the Jews. 

M. And Muhammad is the last prophet foretold in the Jewish scriptures and foretold by Jesus and by all the Prophets. And one of the reasons I became a Muslim, is because I recognised the descriptions of Muhammad from the Bible, from the Bible. And I studied the Bible. I don’t just say I got the Holy Spirit. Most of these born Christians waddling their mouth off, they didn’t even read the Bible, and even if they read it, they never studied it. Most of them. But I read the Bible and I studied it and I was brought up in a monastery. 

M. And when I saw the Qur’an and read it, and when I read the life of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W), I recognised him from the descriptions in the Bible of the prophet who was to come. I recognised him, Muhammad (S.A.W). And if anyone reads the Qur’an, and anyone reads the life of Muhammad, they will know for sure that he is the prophet of God, especially the Jews and the Christians, And Allah says in the Qur’an, And they know it, the Jews and the Christians, they know that Muhammad is a prophet like they know their own sons, like they know their own sons. They know it. But most of them are liars, and they are deluded away from the truth. 

M. And how can you trust the people who have changed the book of God, they have changed it, day by day until this day they are changing it. You know probably by now they have got a feminist Bible out. They don’t call god he anymore, they call god she. And all the bits that they don’t agree with what they like, they change it day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute and they’ve been doing it for the last 3,000 years. And then they have the audacity to hold it up and say “This is the word of God”. This is a lie and they are conversions against the creator of the heavens and the Earth. That’s the reality of Christianity and Judaism. They have taken the book of God and converted it and changed it and corrupted it. 

M. But Alhamdulillah (All the praise is due to Allah) Allah has promised that the Qur’an will not be, he will not allow it to be changed, he will not allow it to be converted, he will not allow it to be corrupted, why? Because it’s the last and final revelation to teach you how to live! to teach you how to live, as human beings, as slaves and servants of God who will be judged by him on the day of judgement, and there’s a hellfire and it’s true, and there’s a paradise and it’s true, don’t think anyone’s paid your price people. You will be questioned about your deeds, and you will be questioned about this day, this talk, what you heard and how you acted upon it and how you didn’t act upon it, and may Allah guide you and me close to the truth.