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Yondaime
Priest Class Leader


Joined: Oct 09, 2006
Posts: 91

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Menohair leaving Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster

Hi there guys!

My apologies for a slow response.

I first want to take a moment to congratulate Jon on his new job. He's been pretty nervous waiting to see if they'd pick him or not (it has been pretty fun to watch him be a nervous wreck though!) Coincidentally I just found out I got a fulltime position at the company I work for, and no longer am a temp.

Well, I guess I am the interm guild master. To be honest; I am flattered, but realistically I have no plan to be a guild master for long. My goal is to present this guild with some options and not leave you all hanging high and dry. I also accept this position knowing that some my friends in this guild may not like me when I am done. My apologies in advance.

And much unlike my predecessors, I cannot paint the most rosy disposition where our guild is concerned. We're barely filling raids, and when we do, it is not with the correct classes due to shortage of them online. Despite some of our long-term members who are raid prepared, not everyone is raid prepared, have their raid face on, and considering our situation we don't have a high morale. And with the break coming, this situation will not get any better. We're going to hit the "summer blues" season, where less people will be on, and this guild cannot weather it in my opinion. Our friendship is only going to glue this guild together for so long.

As I mentioned before, I am presenting some options to you all since I do not want to "throw the baby out with the bathwater". It has been discussed for awhile, but ultimately it is your fate, and you should have a say in what happens. First you have to decide if you want to be a just a social guild, or a casual-raiding. If you just want to be social, then we have no problem here. If you want to raid; then we have to look at getting a substantial influx of GOOD members.

1) My suggestion to the officer core was a guild merger. Outside any "guild of the noob", most guilds did not offer open invites. Your average response from more prominent guilds that I asked was, "We can take X amount of DPS provided that healers and tanks come with" There is one guild that offers the most hope, that I have seen, of taking many of our members and I am going to go back and negotiate some more if we go this route. Ideally I'd like to keep as much of us together as possible.

2) Another thing some of the guilds I looked into wanted was a "list" of members that wanted to go there. So basically if we couldn't have open invites, we'd have to spread out and divide to other guilds that had similar standards as ours. I have some options that I will post shortly, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'll want to go there. Maybe you have a guild you know of you want to join? What if you want to be a free agent? Etc.

3) Remain Battalion, and assimilate several new members. This guild needs GOOD new blood, in the member core AND in the officer core. I need a Gm that wants to sincerely be one, and so far no one has stepped up. We need leadership that is not burnt out, and has the time to be an officer (so far I think only 2 or 3 of your current officers meet those standards.)

However, whatever the case; I will pass my position to someone else as a Guild Master. I've seen what being a GM does to people, and I happen to be fond of my mix of perkiness and semicomatoseness.

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You have all been an online family to me, and I have been with most of you for almost two years. From a noob 35 shaman in the Twilight Guard, to a leveling priest in Pantheon, to the priest class lead of Battalion, I have followed the same guild path as many of you and seen a lot of the same changes you have seen. Some of you I have been an online family member with for nearly two years if you can believe that. You all know me, and I genuinely care about you guys. I don't want to see this guild continue to waste away at the expense of the good members. You really are a bunch of excellent people, many I know on a first name basis. It has been a pleasure and a priviledge to get to hang out with you.

However, I have accepted a position in another guild, but before I leave I will try to help you out as best as I can to find a home for as many of you as possible. If I thought for a moment that this guild had a good chance of staying afloat; I'd back out of my commitment. But as I hear and read of several of our guildees apping to other guilds, I think it is time we should look at our futures in the game.

So please answer my poll and respond to this post with what your feelings are about this. I don't have a lot of time, so if it takes too long; I may be forced to make a decision for you.

Sincerely,

Heather/Yondaime
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Matryoshka
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Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster

I wanted to share some of my personal thoughts with everyone that I previously have only shared with Heather...

I don't think this guild can survive. For various reasons, our officers are largely absent. Our morale is all but non-existant. Between so few people being online at any given time, raids getting cancelled, and raids being executed only quasi-well when they do happen, I am not getting anything out of the game at all on Matry anymore.

With that said, I wanted to post here -- in advance, so there are no surprises -- that even if an attempt is made to revive Battalion, I will be leaving. I'm not yet sure to where, but my intention is to remain here just a little longer, to help in whatever way I can while everyone faces this difficult decision. My devotion to my guilds is deep and, if possible, I would rather not leave until I know each and every one of you has been looked after and settled somewhere.

I also want to express something that I have said in the past, but long enough ago that I feel the need to say it again. I do not limit what I call "my guild" by what tag a player wears under their name. I'm hoping, no matter where we all may end up, that many of you will still consider me to be "guild", as I will still think of you.
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Joined: Mar 13, 2007
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster

I've been with you guys for only a short time, maybe 3 monthes, but have had more fun than the entire time I raided on my previous server. I've grown to be friends with many of you.

Unfortunately, I agree with Heather and Amy, this guild's future has a slim chance of truly surviving.

Heather asked if we're looking for just a social guild (one Battalion unforunately seems to be turning into) or a raiding guild. I do love you guys but, in all honesty, going fully prepared to a raid to have many members not show up and those that fill in for them not be prepared makes it pointless. I dont enjoy spending 8g+ per raid for zero success (don't get me wrong, we all want loot, but if we cant even clear up to a boss we've downed before, something is wrong).

So, I too plan to move to another guild. Hopefully I can stay close to some of you that I've become friends with....Frisky Dingo MUST live on! Hehe

-Labeled, David-
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Yondaime
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Joined: Oct 09, 2006
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: ! Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster

I've investigated several guilds and to summarize them in a nutshell; they can take 10-15 people, but if they don't have a lot of healers go with; things might get difficult for them. So remember they have their own guilds to run, and they'll accept what they can, but not at the expense of their guild. A couple of them wish to have a list of members who are going be provided.

Peons No More

Peons No More is filled with many easterners, so raids usually are around 5-10 server. They have one nostalgic raid a week, and 2-3 raids a week for progression. Of those raids for progression, 1 is closed to signups, 2 are open to signups. No minimum raid attendance required. Oddly enough, the guild master expressed no need for healers as much as they did rogues and hunters. They would go to 2 Karazhan IDs immediately if a large influx came in, and they could accept as much as 20 if all were not DPS. They would prefer to elect someone as a officer to represent the Battalion crew till things settle down.


Secret Service

A guild similar to Battalion in spirit, this guild is assistant GMed by a good friend of our's Zimal. She will accept as many Battalion members as she can, but she did express a need for healers should a large amount of people come. They generaly try to do 2-3 Kara a week starting around 7 server usually, and instance whenever they can. They are starting to do heroics.

Zimmy wanted me to express to you guys how much she'd be looking forward to teaming with you all again ^_^.


Sin

A unique guild in the sense that you cannot apply; it is entirely through being recommended by a guildee. This guild is about in the same place in Karazhan where Battalion left off (past Curator.) They raid 3-4 times a week, but there is no manditory attendance requirement. They don't want to accept a large influx, because their guild history having done something similar with bad results. They value friendship over raiding strictly for gear, but when they enter the raid; the definitely put their game faces on. They also do heroic instance nights as well if possible, but if not they schedule runs for rep grinding.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: @ Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster

Oh! And don't go stampeding towards these guilds please ^_^. Many want a list from me.
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Bacteriofage
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster

Count me in with you Yond wherever you go, if they'll take a frosty mage. Lets get Amy too.
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